Re: [WISPA] Low-Profile PCI 802.11g

2007-12-19 Thread John Thomas

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4555/products_data_sheet09186a00801ebc33.html

They aren't cheap, but they come with a low profile bracket.

John

Mike Hammett wrote:
It certainly looks small, but it doesn't mention low profile 
anywhere.  Does it fit in a low profile slot?  Does it include a low 
profile bracket?



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MSI makes a nice one.

Jory Privett
WCCS

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Does anyone have a recommendation for an 802.11g device for a 
low-profile PCI slot?



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Re: [WISPA] Nuclear Reactor

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I guess there are a couple companies that make these and have several 
different models deployed, but this one sounds like the smallest one yet.  I 
really hope these things take off, they're a great idea.



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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuclear Reactor



Thats cool Mike

I was an electrician for almost 30 years. I've always thought someone 
would do this eventually, if they could ever get past the anti nuclear 
group.


Anyways we got a better deal than those things happening. Here on the 
Oregon Coast, there is a new technology being developed, Wave Energy.


They take giant rubber bladders and connect them to the turbines at the 
bottom of the ocean and let the energy of the waves in the ocean billow 
the bladder to turns the generators and creates electricity.


There is no cost for fuel!

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0915/p02s02-usgn.html

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/09/0026202

George


Mike Hammett wrote:

I can be that nuclear engineer after all!


http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html



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[WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone have a recommendation for a PHP helpdesk?


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RE: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Platypus w/ wombat (www.boardtown.com)

Or cerebus (http://www.cerberusweb.com)

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Re: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Freeside with built in RT Ticket system.   RT is also available as a 
standalone application, and works well.   We use it to keep track of 
installs, deinstalls, service calls, maintenance work and a few other 
things as well.   


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Ty Carter Lightwave Communications wrote:

Platypus w/ wombat (www.boardtown.com)

Or cerebus (http://www.cerberusweb.com)

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Re: [WISPA] Building new mail server, Webmail suggestions?

2007-12-19 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, rabbtux rabbtux wrote:

I'm in the process of putting together a new email server.  It will 
probably be based on postfix and virtual users.  No too much spam 
fighting software to bog things down and complicate the system now, 
since all my customers get postini spam filter service with their 
email.  Anyway, just looking for any suggestions on a decent open 
source webmail client.  I've used squirrelmail in the past, but 
wonder if others might have a good suggestion, and why they like 
it.


While I am not a fan of webmail in general, I have some customers 
that are using Horde with good success.  My understanding is that 
the install and configuration of Horde is more difficult than 
Squirrelmail, though.


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RE: [WISPA] Building new mail server, Webmail suggestions?

2007-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman

  We have mail servers running both Horde and Squirrel mail. I have never
had problems with either and they have been running for years. I will say
that Squirrel mail has many more important options for the subscriber and
(to me) has a better interface. 

.02 worth :)

Mac 

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 All,
 I'm in the process of putting together a new email server.  It will
 probably be based on postfix and virtual users.  No too much spam
 fighting software to bog things down and complicate the system now,
 since all my customers get postini spam filter service with their
 email.  Anyway, just looking for any suggestions on a decent open
 source webmail client.  I've used squirrelmail in the past, but wonder
 if others might have a good suggestion, and why they like it.
 
 Thank you kindly,
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[WISPA] signal tests

2007-12-19 Thread chris cooper
Im wondering how everybody else is handling signal tests for resi
subscribers.  We do most of our resi in heavily wooded very hilly
terrain, so coverage can be somewhat tricky to predict based solely upon
customer address - their mailbox/address may be at the top of the ridge
and they live down in the valley or vice versa.  When a new prospect
comes in, we can make certain assumptions about their coverage based
upon topo, RM plots and historical install data.  But this still leaves
us with a large number of potential customers that require a truck roll
and on site signal test.  At some point the scale of doing this becomes
pretty large and time intensive.  I don't feel that we can schedule
people for an install and determine when we arrive whether or not we can
do the install - most people have to take off work to meet us for the
install.  Has anybody come up with a better solution than having a full
time signal test tech?

 

Thanks

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RE: [WISPA] Nuclear Reactor

2007-12-19 Thread D. Ryan Spott
The anti-nuclear advocates are taking a 180 on their stance as things get
hotter on the planet:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/09/2049204

ryan

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I guess there are a couple companies that make these and have several 
different models deployed, but this one sounds like the smallest one yet.  I

really hope these things take off, they're a great idea.


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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuclear Reactor


 Thats cool Mike

 I was an electrician for almost 30 years. I've always thought someone 
 would do this eventually, if they could ever get past the anti nuclear 
 group.

 Anyways we got a better deal than those things happening. Here on the 
 Oregon Coast, there is a new technology being developed, Wave Energy.

 They take giant rubber bladders and connect them to the turbines at the 
 bottom of the ocean and let the energy of the waves in the ocean billow 
 the bladder to turns the generators and creates electricity.

 There is no cost for fuel!

 http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0915/p02s02-usgn.html

 http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/09/0026202

 George


 Mike Hammett wrote:
 I can be that nuclear engineer after all!

 

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RE: [WISPA] Building new mail server, Webmail suggestions?

2007-12-19 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Mac Dearman wrote:


.02 worth :)


Mac, are those 1953 $.02 or 2007 $.02?  Is the value of your input 
declining as the years pass?  :-)


(for those that don't recognise itthat is a JOKE!)

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Re: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Dylan Oliver
Kayako is really fabulous: http://www.kayako.com

On Dec 19, 2007 7:20 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have a recommendation for a PHP helpdesk?


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Re: [WISPA] signal tests

2007-12-19 Thread Luke Pack
We have a very similar situation.  I use a few maps to Topo studies on them. 
I use delorm topo for this.  I can get a basic idea of hills and such.  This 
gets about 50% out of the way with only 10% failure rate for those things 
you can't prepare for like a silo on their property and a two story tin shed 
lol.  If there is ANY questions on the topo, we put them in a folder for 
physical surveys- where once a week, we take and drive to each location to 
get a signal readout.  No matter what we do, there's still the possibility 
for failure and they are NOT happy to have the day off and all that 
excitement with a failed install!  I do understand, though.  That is our 
system so far and it is working decent.  we also plot all working customers 
and failed surveys (and listing the reasons why or why not) on a google map 
that we keep.


Hope that helps somehow :)

Luke

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Im wondering how everybody else is handling signal tests for resi
subscribers.  We do most of our resi in heavily wooded very hilly
terrain, so coverage can be somewhat tricky to predict based solely upon
customer address - their mailbox/address may be at the top of the ridge
and they live down in the valley or vice versa.  When a new prospect
comes in, we can make certain assumptions about their coverage based
upon topo, RM plots and historical install data.  But this still leaves
us with a large number of potential customers that require a truck roll
and on site signal test.  At some point the scale of doing this becomes
pretty large and time intensive.  I don't feel that we can schedule
people for an install and determine when we arrive whether or not we can
do the install - most people have to take off work to meet us for the
install.  Has anybody come up with a better solution than having a full
time signal test tech?



Thanks

Chris Cooper

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Re: [WISPA] signal tests

2007-12-19 Thread David E. Smith

chris cooper wrote:


Im wondering how everybody else is handling signal tests for resi
subscribers.


We ask for a $50 deposit before we send a tech out to do the signal 
test. (With a very few, very limited exceptions, we ALWAYS do a signal 
test before scheduling an install.) If the test is a no-go, the customer 
gets the $50 deposit back; if the test is a go, we apply that deposit to 
the installation fee.


Note that there's no way to get the $50 back if the signal test is a go. 
That's by design. We used to do signal tests for free, but we had many 
hundreds of good tests where the customer never followed up and wanted 
service installed. It was a waste of our time, money, mileage on the 
truck, et cetera. This discourages, subtly, folks that aren't actually 
interested in the service, or who are just window-shopping.


Prospective customers are informed that they'll be checked within two 
weeks, which we've generally been successful at. Assuming the check is 
a go, we then schedule the install. (Normally we don't need anyone at 
home for the signal check.) Checks tend to stack up for a few days, then 
get done when a tech is in the area; if we're installing someone just 
north of Smalltown, we add an extra hour or two onto that tech's 
schedule and have him do all the Smalltown-area checks while he's in the 
neighborhood.


This does require someone, or some software, to keep track of these 
things, to make sure no checks fall through the cracks, and occasionally 
a tech still has to take a day doing nothing but driving around doing 
random signal checks. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got so far.


We still have to do a truck roll for each signal test, of course, and 
there are still plenty of no-go checks. This way, though, the good 
checks are basically guaranteed to make us some money.


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RE: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
I agree completely... NO need to rethink.. It is a PITA!

Don't even bother!

Ty Carter

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Last I knew, Freeside was a PITA to install and I'm too cheap to pay
someone 
to do it.  Maybe I ought to try again.  ;-)


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 Freeside with built in RT Ticket system.   RT is also available as a 
 standalone application, and works well.   We use it to keep track of 
 installs, deinstalls, service calls, maintenance work and a few other 
 things as well.
 Matt Larsen
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 Platypus w/ wombat (www.boardtown.com)

 Or cerebus (http://www.cerberusweb.com)

 Ty Carter

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[WISPA] Linux consultant

2007-12-19 Thread Blair Davis

Hi all.

I'm looking for a Linux consultant to help me upgrade out web and mail 
server.


Currently, it is running Fedora Core 3, Apache and Qmailrocks.

I wish to upgrade it to Fedora Core 7 or later, without loosing the 
email or web sites.  I think this will involve backing up the web sites 
directory trees and Apache config files as a start.  But I have no idea 
how to backup the email data or username/password stuff.  Nor do I know 
how to restore this on the fresh install.


Any recommendations?  Any takers?

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Re: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Last I knew, Freeside was a PITA to install and I'm too cheap to pay someone 
to do it.  Maybe I ought to try again.  ;-)



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Freeside with built in RT Ticket system.   RT is also available as a 
standalone application, and works well.   We use it to keep track of 
installs, deinstalls, service calls, maintenance work and a few other 
things as well.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


Ty Carter Lightwave Communications wrote:

Platypus w/ wombat (www.boardtown.com)

Or cerebus (http://www.cerberusweb.com)

Ty Carter

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:20 AM
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a PHP helpdesk?


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RE: [WISPA] signal tests

2007-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman
We kind of split the difference. We set them up for an install when they
call in because we too had so many that could get internet, but never
followed up and ordered the service after the site survey. We always ask if
someone will be home on the day of install and if they say they will have to
take off work - - we will run by and do a site survey before they actually
take off to insure that their day off was not in vain. The good thing about
this is we know that they ready and willing to pay for service. If they
start craw fishing and put off the install - - that tells us what we needed
to know as well. We also use Google Earth as we talk to them on the phone to
see if they are in a forest and their distance to our closest tower(s)

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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Luke Pack
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:37 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] signal tests
 
 I like the $50 dollar thing!  yes, we do have many that do not follow
 up
 after the survey.  I think we might implement that one- thanks!
 
 Luke
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] signal tests
 
 
  chris cooper wrote:
 
  Im wondering how everybody else is handling signal tests for resi
  subscribers.
 
  We ask for a $50 deposit before we send a tech out to do the signal
 test.
  (With a very few, very limited exceptions, we ALWAYS do a signal test
  before scheduling an install.) If the test is a no-go, the customer
 gets
  the $50 deposit back; if the test is a go, we apply that deposit to
 the
  installation fee.
 
  Note that there's no way to get the $50 back if the signal test is a
 go.
  That's by design. We used to do signal tests for free, but we had
 many
  hundreds of good tests where the customer never followed up and
 wanted
  service installed. It was a waste of our time, money, mileage on the
  truck, et cetera. This discourages, subtly, folks that aren't
 actually
  interested in the service, or who are just window-shopping.
 
  Prospective customers are informed that they'll be checked within
 two
  weeks, which we've generally been successful at. Assuming the check
 is a
  go, we then schedule the install. (Normally we don't need anyone at
 home
  for the signal check.) Checks tend to stack up for a few days, then
 get
  done when a tech is in the area; if we're installing someone just
 north of
  Smalltown, we add an extra hour or two onto that tech's schedule and
 have
  him do all the Smalltown-area checks while he's in the neighborhood.
 
  This does require someone, or some software, to keep track of these
  things, to make sure no checks fall through the cracks, and
 occasionally a
  tech still has to take a day doing nothing but driving around doing
 random
  signal checks. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got so far.
 
  We still have to do a truck roll for each signal test, of course, and
  there are still plenty of no-go checks. This way, though, the good
 checks
  are basically guaranteed to make us some money.
 
  David Smith
  MVN.net
 
 
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[WISPA] 700 Mhz bidders list

2007-12-19 Thread Blake Bowers
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[WISPA] Cherokee Wireless - Poplar PCS

2007-12-19 Thread Blake Bowers

I sent this yesterday, but never saw anything, perhaps it
did not go out.


Anyone dealing with these folk?  Are they actually 
operational? Do they have a web page?  Anything?




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Re: [WISPA] Cherokee Wireless - Poplar PCS

2007-12-19 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Blake Bowers wrote:

Anyone dealing with these folk?  Are they actually operational? Do 
they have a web page?  Anything?


I know of a Cherokee Wireless in eastern Oklahoma...this the same 
folks you are looking for?  What information are you wanting?


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RE: [WISPA] Cherokee Wireless - Poplar PCS

2007-12-19 Thread Don Renner
Blake,

Please contact me off list for our dealings with Cherokee Wireless

Don Renner
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I sent this yesterday, but never saw anything, perhaps it
did not go out.


Anyone dealing with these folk?  Are they actually 
operational? Do they have a web page?  Anything?




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Re: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk

2007-12-19 Thread Clint Ricker
It's definitely not an install for people who don't have a lot of unix
experience; it is a little troublesome even with a lot of experience.

That said, most of the people I know who do the paid support have a good
experience.

-Clint




On Dec 19, 2007 1:10 PM, Ty Carter Lightwave Communications 
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 I agree completely... NO need to rethink.. It is a PITA!

 Don't even bother!

 Ty Carter

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 Last I knew, Freeside was a PITA to install and I'm too cheap to pay
 someone
 to do it.  Maybe I ought to try again.  ;-)


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  Freeside with built in RT Ticket system.   RT is also available as a
  standalone application, and works well.   We use it to keep track of
  installs, deinstalls, service calls, maintenance work and a few other
  things as well.
  Matt Larsen
  vistabeam.com
 
 
  Ty Carter Lightwave Communications wrote:
  Platypus w/ wombat (www.boardtown.com)
 
  Or cerebus (http://www.cerberusweb.com)
 
  Ty Carter
 
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  Does anyone have a recommendation for a PHP helpdesk?
 
 
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[WISPA] Climbing gear

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Where do you guys get your climbing gear?


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Re: [WISPA] Climbing gear

2007-12-19 Thread Mark Nash

Safety equipment dealers.  One in every med-large town.

Mark Nash
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Where do you guys get your climbing gear?


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Re: [WISPA] Climbing gear

2007-12-19 Thread lakeland
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You can tell them i sent ya. 

Bob
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Where do you guys get your climbing gear?


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RE: [WISPA] Climbing gear

2007-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman
If you know exactly what you want to the tee and have no questions nor do
you want suggestions you can get it on line anywhere. If you want
suggestions, have questions and may want/need guidance - - call Tennessee
Equipment Supply. (Knoxville, Tn) Ask for Cliff and he is a very
knowledgeable person and easy to talk to.

  Years ago when we first started this business I came clean with him and
told him that I was dumb as a box of rocks and didn't know what I needed to
be safe. He absolutely fixed me up and didn't over sale me. I have since
came to respect and appreciate his service and buy all my gear there.

Tennessee Equipment Supply (Cliff)
Knoxville, Tn.
865.966.5722
800.327.4036

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