Re: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness
Finally got my strange Tranzeo issue figured out. It was a bad jumper from the injector to the switch. Who'd have thunk it!?!?!?!?!?! Running well for a few days now. marlon - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness All- I have the following setup that is giving me fits, (still): 350' FM tower, 25K watt FM bays up near the top, another set, 3k, down around 220'. We have two MT backhauls w/ parabolics located in between the FM antennas that are running fine. Down around 180' we have a tranzeo 5AN w/ a 120 sector that's got us all fouled up. The first radio lived fine for a couple of months then started flopping up and down and finally died. Replaced that unit with one that stayed up for @ 15 minutes, then locked us out, couldnt ping it either. It was powered up, but lan light was out. Swapped in another new unit that behaved the same. Swapped poe, AC adapters, recrimped and tested cabling good. Tried to get into unit, still no go. We considered the cable length as a possible problem, so we spooled off the exact cable length needed (230') stretched it across the ground and sent continuous pings to a new radio for @ 20 minutes with no dropped packets. We then raised this new cable up and plugged it into the existing radio on the tower. It would power up fine, but couldnt find it with the discovery utility and couldnt ping it. We regrounded, recrimped, retested everything and the stupid thing still wouldnt come to life. So we dropped the 230' of cabling and radio back down to the ground, powered it back up and could get right into it. It would drop packets every now and then however. We plugged a new radio into the cable and it ran flawlessly. I thought of pointing at the lower FM array, but we had the same symptoms when the 3K watt station was powered off. The cabling is all sheilded. The MT units are running fine on the same type of cabling on the same leg. Ive considered running the cabling in conduit and isolating the radio and radio ground from the tower, but would like to consider anything else before going that route. Maybe we are the victims of three bad radios in a row? I dont want to have to shoot these radios, but they're starting to make us pretty cranky. Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks, Chris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness
Ground one side of the shielded cat5. Dont ground the top..ground the bottom. Make sure the POE is grounded. Is the radio grounded to tower steel or is it isolated from the tower somehow?? Make sure all the equipment is grounded to the master tower ground Verify that the ground pins on all the AC plugs are in tact. No adapters. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:31:56 To:WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo weirdness All- I have the following setup that is giving me fits, (still): 350' FM tower, 25K watt FM bays up near the top, another set, 3k, down around 220'. We have two MT backhauls w/ parabolics located in between the FM antennas that are running fine. Down around 180' we have a tranzeo 5AN w/ a 120 sector that's got us all fouled up. The first radio lived fine for a couple of months then started flopping up and down and finally died. Replaced that unit with one that stayed up for @ 15 minutes, then locked us out, couldnt ping it either. It was powered up, but lan light was out. Swapped in another new unit that behaved the same. Swapped poe, AC adapters, recrimped and tested cabling good. Tried to get into unit, still no go. We considered the cable length as a possible problem, so we spooled off the exact cable length needed (230') stretched it across the ground and sent continuous pings to a new radio for @ 20 minutes with no dropped packets. We then raised this new cable up and plugged it into the existing radio on the tower. It would power up fine, but couldnt find it with the discovery utility and couldnt ping it. We regrounded, recrimped, retested everything and the stupid thing still wouldnt come to life. So we dropped the 230' of cabling and radio back down to the ground, powered it back up and could get right into it. It would drop packets every now and then however. We plugged a new radio into the cable and it ran flawlessly. I thought of pointing at the lower FM array, but we had the same symptoms when the 3K watt station was powered off. The cabling is all sheilded. The MT units are running fine on the same type of cabling on the same leg. Ive considered running the cabling in conduit and isolating the radio and radio ground from the tower, but would like to consider anything else before going that route. Maybe we are the victims of three bad radios in a row? I dont want to have to shoot these radios, but they're starting to make us pretty cranky. Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks, Chris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tranzeo weirdness
All- I have the following setup that is giving me fits, (still): 350' FM tower, 25K watt FM bays up near the top, another set, 3k, down around 220'. We have two MT backhauls w/ parabolics located in between the FM antennas that are running fine. Down around 180' we have a tranzeo 5AN w/ a 120 sector that's got us all fouled up. The first radio lived fine for a couple of months then started flopping up and down and finally died. Replaced that unit with one that stayed up for @ 15 minutes, then locked us out, couldnt ping it either. It was powered up, but lan light was out. Swapped in another new unit that behaved the same. Swapped poe, AC adapters, recrimped and tested cabling good. Tried to get into unit, still no go. We considered the cable length as a possible problem, so we spooled off the exact cable length needed (230') stretched it across the ground and sent continuous pings to a new radio for @ 20 minutes with no dropped packets. We then raised this new cable up and plugged it into the existing radio on the tower. It would power up fine, but couldnt find it with the discovery utility and couldnt ping it. We regrounded, recrimped, retested everything and the stupid thing still wouldnt come to life. So we dropped the 230' of cabling and radio back down to the ground, powered it back up and could get right into it. It would drop packets every now and then however. We plugged a new radio into the cable and it ran flawlessly. I thought of pointing at the lower FM array, but we had the same symptoms when the 3K watt station was powered off. The cabling is all sheilded. The MT units are running fine on the same type of cabling on the same leg. Ive considered running the cabling in conduit and isolating the radio and radio ground from the tower, but would like to consider anything else before going that route. Maybe we are the victims of three bad radios in a row? I dont want to have to shoot these radios, but they're starting to make us pretty cranky. Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks, Chris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] signal tests
We book every one as an install. If I can't do it then I leave, otherwise we install. marlon - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] signal tests Im wondering how everybody else is handling signal tests for resi subscribers. We do most of our resi in heavily wooded very hilly terrain, so coverage can be somewhat tricky to predict based solely upon customer address - their mailbox/address may be at the top of the ridge and they live down in the valley or vice versa. When a new prospect comes in, we can make certain assumptions about their coverage based upon topo, RM plots and historical install data. But this still leaves us with a large number of potential customers that require a truck roll and on site signal test. At some point the scale of doing this becomes pretty large and time intensive. I don't feel that we can schedule people for an install and determine when we arrive whether or not we can do the install - most people have to take off work to meet us for the install. Has anybody come up with a better solution than having a full time signal test tech? Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with MACs
This sounds a lot like an Mtu issue. Either drop the Mtu on the macs or raise it on your gear. (probably best to lower on their gear to start). - Clint Ricker On Dec 20, 2007, at 6:46 PM, John Valenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use an older Mac Powerbook and just setup a new Mac Mini at home. I've can't remember any issues on my wireless net, or special tweaks. I would double check the basic IP settings, DNS etc. Try a few pings and traceroutes. (Applications folder > Utilities folder > Terminal > type "ifconfig" or alternately look at the Network control panel) It might be interesting to download Firefox and see if that has the same issues as Safari. Is there a home wifi router involved? It should just work. -John On December 20, at 3:29 PM December 20, Mark McElvy wrote: I have a customer running a brand new MAC on my wireless network and he has done nothing but complain. He runs Safari for a browser and it regularly shows server cannot be found for a website but then lets you browse elsewhere. Also gets a lot of sites not showing pictures. When I am there with my laptop running Vista I don't see the issues. I am running a Tranzeo CPE back to a MT AP that has about 18 users. No one else complains. Now I know about nothing on MACs so I am wondering if there are any tweaks that may help. --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with MACs
I use an older Mac Powerbook and just setup a new Mac Mini at home. I've can't remember any issues on my wireless net, or special tweaks. I would double check the basic IP settings, DNS etc. Try a few pings and traceroutes. (Applications folder > Utilities folder > Terminal > type "ifconfig" or alternately look at the Network control panel) It might be interesting to download Firefox and see if that has the same issues as Safari. Is there a home wifi router involved? It should just work. -John On December 20, at 3:29 PM December 20, Mark McElvy wrote: I have a customer running a brand new MAC on my wireless network and he has done nothing but complain. He runs Safari for a browser and it regularly shows server cannot be found for a website but then lets you browse elsewhere. Also gets a lot of sites not showing pictures. When I am there with my laptop running Vista I don't see the issues. I am running a Tranzeo CPE back to a MT AP that has about 18 users. No one else complains. Now I know about nothing on MACs so I am wondering if there are any tweaks that may help. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vista Task Manager
Mike Hammett wrote: Does anyone know how to translate the different crap in the available columns in the Vista Task Manager to tell me how much physical memory a program is using and how much swap file is it using? Just download Process Explorer and make your life easier. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx The Task Manager doesn't have enough information to answer that question, and is a pain in the behind in any event. If you need that information frequently (if you're doing development work, for instance), Process Explorer can be configured to replace Task Manager entirely. (Haven't tested that on Vista, but it works on XP at least.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Vista Task Manager
Does anyone know how to translate the different crap in the available columns in the Vista Task Manager to tell me how much physical memory a program is using and how much swap file is it using? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Issues with MACs
I have a customer running a brand new MAC on my wireless network and he has done nothing but complain. He runs Safari for a browser and it regularly shows server cannot be found for a website but then lets you browse elsewhere. Also gets a lot of sites not showing pictures. When I am there with my laptop running Vista I don't see the issues. I am running a Tranzeo CPE back to a MT AP that has about 18 users. No one else complains. Now I know about nothing on MACs so I am wondering if there are any tweaks that may help. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Dave Hughes - Internet Pioneer Riding Into the Sunset
Dave is one of the most interesting personalities of the Internet, and especially, the wireless world. He is larger than life and has a set of achievements most of us can only dream about. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dave Hughes - Internet Pioneer Riding Into the Sunset http://www.gazette.com/articles/internet_31057___article.html/hughes_old .html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 FCC License # PG-12-25133 Author of the Cisco Press Book - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" Vendor-Neutral Wireless Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting Phone 818-227-4220 Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Dave Hughes - Internet Pioneer Riding Into the Sunset
http://www.gazette.com/articles/internet_31057___article.html/hughes_old.html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 FCC License # PG-12-25133 Author of the Cisco Press Book - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" Vendor-Neutral Wireless Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting Phone 818-227-4220 Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
