Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] 4.7 GHz
Has anyone heard anything about the 4.7 (4.4 - 5.0) GHz band? I've heard that it might be made available for PtP or possibly even PtMP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz
I got this in an email from Radio Waves. I took the enterprise deployments part to be something we could grab. Update on the 4.7 GHz Band The 4.4 - 5.0 GHz band continues to see lots of activity. Applications in the 4.7 GHz band are across the board from LMR (land mobile two-way radio) backhaul, to telemetry backhaul, to enterprise deployments (which might be point-to-point such as T1 replacement or point to mutli-point. With many federal networks in this band, the question is, where is the new administration going to spend its money? You have seen the news and that spending on infrastructure will be rather significant (Talk about Going Large!) We believe some of this spending will find it's way into wireless telecommuincations infrastructure and the 4.7 GHz band should be active over the next couple of years for sure. More to follow as this potential activity becomes clearer over the next couple of months. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz 4.5 to 4.9 is federal govt in US Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:18:05 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz Has anyone heard anything about the 4.7 (4.4 - 5.0) GHz band? I've heard that it might be made available for PtP or possibly even PtMP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Members] Broadband Stimulus Package - Contact yourCongressmen
My congressman (actually woman) voted no on the stimulus package. I've known her for years so I felt OK being more personal than I normally would. I thought it important to tell her that I LIKED her vote. Info on how to contact your representatives is listed below Hi Cathy, I just wanted to drop you a note and give you a great big THANK YOU for trying to stop the madness. Keep voting against more government fraud, waste and abuse. Once the pork barrel (er, uh, sorry, stimulus bill) gets railroaded through I hope you can find a way to insure that the funds go to small businesses with lots and lots of small projects. Anything else will take far too long to actually be helpful. Any applications will also need to be greatly streamlined from normal government requirements. I would be more than happy to help in regards to my industry segment. (Wireless Internet Service Provider) Thanks again for doing the right thing. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer Owner Odessa Office Equipment www.odessaoffice.com Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam To all, Here are websites that you can find your US Senators and Representatives. I just sent a letter to my two Senators in Indiana. It is important that everyone do this and make sure the Senators understand the importance WISPs have had in rural broadband and how important we are in the future. We can send them a more unified message as the legislative committee gets it refined. I think it is important to get on the radar screen early though. Make an introduction of your company and your locations http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml Respectfully, Rick Harnish ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?
Out of curiosity. What is the cost to the FCC for a 10 year 38 ghz or an 18ghz license? Thanks, John Buwa WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Letter to my senators
Hi All, Here is the letter that I sent to my senators this am: Dear Senator Cantwell, Please vote no on the stimulus bill. As written this bill seems set to mainly put pork barrel money into the hands of the large companies who's misuse of investment funds clearly led to the current market crash. Giving more of MY money to the liars, cheats, and thieves on Wall Street will do NOTHING to make me turn loose of the hard earned money that I get to keep. Please keep in mind that no company is too large to fail. If they screw up they deserve to fail. That is the only way that new, creative enterprises can ever get started. The current mess we are in has far more to do with my confidence as a consumer than anything else. I'll be paying off debt, building a cash reserve and doing without some of the nice things I'd like to have. In a year or two I'll likely start spending money on fluff again. Then again, if I have to worry about paying off a greatly increased government debt (or my grandkids having to pay it back) I'll hold on to every cent I can for as long as I can so that my family does not end up in even worse shape a generation or two down the road. Again, please stop the madness! Don't rush into a trillion dollar shopping spree. Vote no. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer To send yours is easy, click here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Select your state, then click on the link. I typed mine in word first so that I could spell check it. Once the bill passes I'll send something similar stating that they need to put the money into the engine that drives our economy not the rest of the train. Small business makes up 95% of our economy last I knew. (anyone have current numbers???) So this package really needs to go to those small sub 10m per year (or is it 100m? What is a small business?) companies not the fortune 500 or even 1000. If you don't vote you can't bitch! Get off those lazy computer geek butts and make your voices heard! Fingers crossed, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Thats a hard one Josh, cost effective. I've been driving rigs since I got out of trade school in 76', sometimes being cheap on the front end is a mistake, unless you have a talent of finding killer deals by chance. For me, I enjoyed the last van I drove, it was a 98 ford long van and I went 10 years with nothing other than the usual maintenance. No surprise engine or transmission problems, just reliable. It was almost new when we bought it so we saved a few grand. I couldn't imagine buying an older vehicle that will hand me a big surprise and at the worst possible time. Cause seems like that when it happens. So new or almost is my choice. I like long vans. Long enough to slide my 10' step ladder in. I would use a pick up truck, but the rain is a problem 1/2 the year. So it's a van. As for gas millage, I have never seen a work truck thats loaded with equipment get better than 12 miles to the gallon. And if you buy a light weight vehicle and load it up with a lot of equipment like a mini van, expect to be doing tranny work fairly often. So it's a heavy duty vehicle which means bigger engine and low gas mileage. One thing that will save fuel costs is scheduling service calls in an orderly loop if it can be done. Instead of zig zagging across town, a straight line. Although zig zagging sometimes can't be avoided. George Josh Luthman wrote: I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing
Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?
38GHz is typically leased from a third party. 18GHz is leased directly from the FCC. Typically 38GHz is more expensive over the course of ten years as opposed to 18GHz, 23GHz, 11GHz 6GHz, etc from the FCC. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BSwas Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse? Out of curiosity. What is the cost to the FCC for a 10 year 38 ghz or an 18ghz license? Thanks, John Buwa WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered!
So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered!
I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?
Generally 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, and 23GHz will cost somewhere in the range of $3k to license depending on how you go about it. Best course of action is to always have the company your buying the gear from do the licensing work... it will usually be cheaper and prevent mistakes. If your doing multiple links at the same time costs go down, as somethings (like the RF study) can be used over the multiple links. FCC Fees are $1290 per link... but that fee is waived for government, non-profit, etc. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] BSwas Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse? 38GHz is typically leased from a third party. 18GHz is leased directly from the FCC. Typically 38GHz is more expensive over the course of ten years as opposed to 18GHz, 23GHz, 11GHz 6GHz, etc from the FCC. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BSwas Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse? Out of curiosity. What is the cost to the FCC for a 10 year 38 ghz or an 18ghz license? Thanks, John Buwa WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Members] Broadband Stimulus Package - ContactyourCongressmen
thanks Marlon. I read a rumor about two days ago that said the Senate might not pass, as there's at least a couple Democrats who are rather uneasy with all the spending and might filibuster it. Who knows where that goes. I read somewhere that if we took the bailout money, and stimulus money that has and is expected to be spent, and just divided it among the adults, it ends up to be many thousands per working person - something over 10K. If we just let the banks and loans fail and instead, divided up the insurance ,FDIC obligations, and Freddy and Fannie liabilities, and all the other spending among all of us, I understand it would be something like 70K for each household. As it is, I understand that the only real break to people who are not either really rich or really poor, is a $500 check. And heaven only knows when that would show up. And we're borrowing something just less than $3000 per man, woman, and child to do this latest one. I'm not exactly hopeful here. All the long term prognosticators I read are now saying we're headed for certain hyperinflation. We'd have been better off to let every bank fail that's failing, let Freddie and Fannie die, and then hand out the money that we're all liable for just to the people. It would have been enough to restart a whole new economoy. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: w...@part-15.org; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Members] Broadband Stimulus Package - ContactyourCongressmen My congressman (actually woman) voted no on the stimulus package. I've known her for years so I felt OK being more personal than I normally would. I thought it important to tell her that I LIKED her vote. Info on how to contact your representatives is listed below Hi Cathy, I just wanted to drop you a note and give you a great big THANK YOU for trying to stop the madness. Keep voting against more government fraud, waste and abuse. Once the pork barrel (er, uh, sorry, stimulus bill) gets railroaded through I hope you can find a way to insure that the funds go to small businesses with lots and lots of small projects. Anything else will take far too long to actually be helpful. Any applications will also need to be greatly streamlined from normal government requirements. I would be more than happy to help in regards to my industry segment. (Wireless Internet Service Provider) Thanks again for doing the right thing. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer Owner Odessa Office Equipment www.odessaoffice.com Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam To all, Here are websites that you can find your US Senators and Representatives. I just sent a letter to my two Senators in Indiana. It is important that everyone do this and make sure the Senators understand the importance WISPs have had in rural broadband and how important we are in the future. We can send them a more unified message as the legislative committee gets it refined. I think it is important to get on the radar screen early though. Make an introduction of your company and your locations http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml Respectfully, Rick Harnish ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FPL
Has anyone worked with Florida Power and Light? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Letter to my senators
Marlon, I think it would have more impact if you started it with the following: As a small business owner... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: w...@part-15.org; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] Letter to my senators Hi All, Here is the letter that I sent to my senators this am: Dear Senator Cantwell, Please vote no on the stimulus bill. As written this bill seems set to mainly put pork barrel money into the hands of the large companies who's misuse of investment funds clearly led to the current market crash. Giving more of MY money to the liars, cheats, and thieves on Wall Street will do NOTHING to make me turn loose of the hard earned money that I get to keep. Please keep in mind that no company is too large to fail. If they screw up they deserve to fail. That is the only way that new, creative enterprises can ever get started. The current mess we are in has far more to do with my confidence as a consumer than anything else. I'll be paying off debt, building a cash reserve and doing without some of the nice things I'd like to have. In a year or two I'll likely start spending money on fluff again. Then again, if I have to worry about paying off a greatly increased government debt (or my grandkids having to pay it back) I'll hold on to every cent I can for as long as I can so that my family does not end up in even worse shape a generation or two down the road. Again, please stop the madness! Don't rush into a trillion dollar shopping spree. Vote no. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer To send yours is easy, click here: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Select your state, then click on the link. I typed mine in word first so that I could spell check it. Once the bill passes I'll send something similar stating that they need to put the money into the engine that drives our economy not the rest of the train. Small business makes up 95% of our economy last I knew. (anyone have current numbers???) So this package really needs to go to those small sub 10m per year (or is it 100m? What is a small business?) companies not the fortune 500 or even 1000. If you don't vote you can't bitch! Get off those lazy computer geek butts and make your voices heard! Fingers crossed, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redundant / Alternate Backhauls
What about OLSR instead of OSPF? We're considering using this. Anyone using OLSR and using alternate backhauls? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redundant / Alternate Backhauls That's scary. I've known that Nagios can do this as well, but depends on the topology. We do it manually as well, setting the far side of the non-active StarOS backhaul as a non-RIP-enabled router, then bridging it when we need it, updating routes, etc. Takes a couple minutes. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@avolutia.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redundant / Alternate Backhauls A student of mine that was at one of our MikroTik Trainings actually scripted The Dude to detect when backhauls would go down in his ring and reroute traffic automatically within 5 seconds. Regards, Chuck Hogg Avolutia, LLC 502-722-9292 ch...@avolutia.com http://www.avolutia.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:00 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redundant / Alternate Backhauls The only issue with the ring is being able to tell when a link has switched over or even worse is when a link is marginal so the link flaps back and forth, often causing all kinds of problems with traffic flows and OSPF updates. We have our backup links set that we have to switch to them manually, so then we know there is a problem, and we can control the traffic flow. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: We setup a redundant circle around our network with OSPF. Highly recommend it. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net mailto:t...@ida.net wrote: We did this with all of our critical links last summer. It was the best thing we ever did... it has saved us several times this winter already. :) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: We've been putting in redundant or alternate backhauls to our distros that have more than 20 users. I'm curious to see how others feel about this, and when you decide to install a redundant or alternate backhaul to a tower distro? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Fords have terrible mileage. Our 2008 (I think) F-550 gets about 9 (doesn't pull anything). Completely irresponsible when a stock 2006 Dodge (with OEM software upgrades) with a 2 ton camper in the bed pulls 21.5 in hilly terrain. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I just bought a 2008 Ford super duty van. 11mpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
[WISPA] Neat site..
Cool use of google maps for doing radio link calculations. The interface is clunky, but best I've seen so far online. http://members.chello.at/stephen.joung/indexDistanceElevation.html -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz
4.5 to 4.9 is federal govt in US Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:18:05 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz Has anyone heard anything about the 4.7 (4.4 - 5.0) GHz band? I've heard that it might be made available for PtP or possibly even PtMP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered!
Mike, I don't post to DSL Reports, do those users even know about this effort? Or isp-wireless for that matter? Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!
I posted to DSLR once. I haven't posted on ISP-Wireless in probably 6 years... since I found out about Part-15. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfamillionsquaremilescovered! Mike, I don't post to DSL Reports, do those users even know about this effort? Or isp-wireless for that matter? Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!
Rick, I did post to DSL reports yesterday with an update today. I haven't ever been on the isp-wireless list. If someone wants to post there I'd be happy to write something up. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered! Mike, I don't post to DSL Reports, do those users even know about this effort? Or isp-wireless for that matter? Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WPA issues with High Gain Antennas
If anyone is having WPA issues with High Gain Antennas connected to Mikrotik, let me know. The vendor wants to get everyone pooled together to solve this. The problem we're experiencing is: 18:01:39 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:2...@lou Faivre - East: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:01:39 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:5...@lou Faivre - East: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:01:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:01:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:2...@lou Faivre - East: connected 18:01:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:5...@lou Faivre - East: connected 18:01:41 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: connected 18:03:46 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: reassociating 18:03:46 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: disconnected, ok 18:03:46 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: connected 18:06:39 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:5...@lou Faivre - East: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:06:39 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:2...@lou Faivre - East: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:06:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: disconnected, group key exchange timeout 18:06:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:5...@lou Faivre - East: connected 18:06:40 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:2...@lou Faivre - East: connected 18:06:41 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:51:d...@lou Faivre - West: connected All High Gain Antennas CPE are dropping every 5 minutes on the nose. Other brands of CPE aren't having this issue. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Lobbying Update February 3, 2008
I thought I would take a few minutes and update everyone on the status of the work that has been done throughout the weekend and last few days. The Board has hired Rini-Coran to represent WISPA through this Broadband Stimulus Legislation and Rulemaking time period, which may be one month or may be six, no one really knows. The Legislative Committee which is Chaired by Tom DeReggi worked through the weekend developing our talking points and strategy. They held a conference call with Steve Coran on Monday. Steve worked late last night writing a first draft of a letter to be sent to House and Senate Leadership positions. The letter was sent to the Legislative committee and the Board for editing and was finalized today. The letters have been put on WISPA letterhead, have been signed and sent to all Leadership positions in the House and Senate via fax a few minutes ago. Tom and Steve will be working on a letter to send out to the membership later this evening. This email should include Talking Points to which each of you can call your local Senator offices tomorrow and tell them about your business, WISPA and what we (WISPA) would like to see. This quote is from Steve Coran a few minutes ago. The Legislative Committee members are to be congratulated for the enormous amount of volunteer time and effort they have put into this. It may look like a simple two-page letter and a one-page set of talking points, but we all know that it took a lot of thoughtful and intelligent debate, writing and editing to produce a position that reflects the importance of the legislation to WISPA. This is just the first step, but I am personally very thankful to Tom for his leadership and to all of the Committee members for their cooperation and contributions under some very tight time frames. Thanks to all who have helped by sending money, donating time or have helped in any other way such as calling or writing your Congressmen or Senators. Respectfully, Rick Harnish WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Money is so tight and loans are out of the question for such a young company. I do agree getting new or near new vehicle is the best option to avoid being truckless or vanless. I think for this upcoming week we'll just find some junker and make sure it at least runs so have a spare vehicle but in the future just have a new machine ready to go. I don't see a clear line between truck and van so I think we'll just look for the best deal at the time. Hopefully those new Dodge trucks with the remote locked cabinets come down soon =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and
Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?
Generally 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, and 23GHz will cost somewhere in the range of $3k to license depending on how you go about it. Best course of action is to always have the company your buying the gear from do the licensing work... it will usually be cheaper and prevent mistakes. Wow...$3k? Assuming $1300 in FCC fees -- that's still $1,700 for licensing services (NOTE TO SELF: time to end that $595 Part 101 licensing promo) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Lost routes...
I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE session will still show in the active connections window. If I disconnect the active session the client will reconnect. Any thoughts? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Neat site..
That is an amazing website! I would like to see it for 5.8, though =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Cool use of google maps for doing radio link calculations. The interface is clunky, but best I've seen so far online. http://members.chello.at/stephen.joung/indexDistanceElevation.html -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!
Write it up, I can post there. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered! Rick, I did post to DSL reports yesterday with an update today. I haven't ever been on the isp-wireless list. If someone wants to post there I'd be happy to write something up. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered! Mike, I don't post to DSL Reports, do those users even know about this effort? Or isp-wireless for that matter? Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered! So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; motor...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered! Here is a fixed graphic of the National WISP map showing the lower 48 states. I have been getting updates via email on top of what Matt sends from the directory. The footprint now covers 567,315 square miles! I'm still working out the bug that makes the circle radius on the Google Maps smaller than the 10 mile radius. The land area calculations are done based on the 10 miles. Help spread the word about this effort to collect data. For those who have drawn their coverage area in Google Earth, send me that file and I can add it directly to the map. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still
Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?
38GHz is typically leased from a third party. 18GHz is leased directly from the FCC. Typically 38GHz is more expensive over the course of ten years as opposed to 18GHz, 23GHz, 11GHz 6GHz, etc from the FCC. Adding onto Brad's point -- 38 GHz falls under owned spectrum (stuff that's been auctioned) Part 101, which is the FCC Rules pertaining to point-to-point microwave backhauls, covers primarily 6, 11, 18 23 GHz -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BSwas Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse? Out of curiosity. What is the cost to the FCC for a 10 year 38 ghz or an 18ghz license? Thanks, John Buwa WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
It may be worthwhile to consider a Dodge/Mercedes/Freightliner Sprinter Van. The drawback is that they have a high roof line, but they do get 20 + mpg in motorhome trim, and 25-30 mpg bare. They are Diesel and the engines are supposed to be good for 400,000 - 500,000 miles. John George Rogato wrote: Thats a hard one Josh, cost effective. I've been driving rigs since I got out of trade school in 76', sometimes being cheap on the front end is a mistake, unless you have a talent of finding killer deals by chance. For me, I enjoyed the last van I drove, it was a 98 ford long van and I went 10 years with nothing other than the usual maintenance. No surprise engine or transmission problems, just reliable. It was almost new when we bought it so we saved a few grand. I couldn't imagine buying an older vehicle that will hand me a big surprise and at the worst possible time. Cause seems like that when it happens. So new or almost is my choice. I like long vans. Long enough to slide my 10' step ladder in. I would use a pick up truck, but the rain is a problem 1/2 the year. So it's a van. As for gas millage, I have never seen a work truck thats loaded with equipment get better than 12 miles to the gallon. And if you buy a light weight vehicle and load it up with a lot of equipment like a mini van, expect to be doing tranny work fairly often. So it's a heavy duty vehicle which means bigger engine and low gas mileage. One thing that will save fuel costs is scheduling service calls in an orderly loop if it can be done. Instead of zig zagging across town, a straight line. Although zig zagging sometimes can't be avoided. George Josh Luthman wrote: I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky tires would have shaved that to around 15... And his excursion would have been absolutely unable to stay infront of it :) I towed a trailer form Oregon to Wisconsin and back in '04 and truck and trailer were 23K combined. Even crossing Montana at 75 - 80 still netted me 10.5 - 11 mpg . insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Must have a lot of 91 Dodges down there (we have a 91 Cummins... not so much pep compared to the new ones). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle My 2001 7.3L Diesel Excursion that's closing in on 180K miles still gets 14-20mpg depending on use, how heavy my foot is and what I'm pulling. It used to get better mileage, but after 8 years of just oil and fuel it's probably due for a tune up of some kind. It does have a custom chip exhaust that keeps me in front of ANY Diesel Dodge I've run across. grin Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday,
Re: [WISPA] National Map Update - 579,154 square miles covered
Brian, I entered 2400 Camino Ramon San Ramon CA and got part of circles in the coverage area. I will assume that is NextWeb/Covadwireless's footprint. They have a coverage map at http://www.covadwireless.com/network-coverage-maps.html#sanfrancisco if that helps. John Brian Webster wrote: I received about 10 different WISP network update files today, keep them coming folks! Here is the latest map. http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National%20Map.htm Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
I bought a ford and they financed it. No interest. I'm pretty certain they are working deals to get them sold. Supposedly the truck I bought had a sticker and is worth 29k and I got it for 23k. And some of that money we all have been talking about: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_go_co/congress_stimulus Josh Luthman wrote: Money is so tight and loans are out of the question for such a young company. I do agree getting new or near new vehicle is the best option to avoid being truckless or vanless. I think for this upcoming week we'll just find some junker and make sure it at least runs so have a spare vehicle but in the future just have a new machine ready to go. I don't see a clear line between truck and van so I think we'll just look for the best deal at the time. Hopefully those new Dodge trucks with the remote locked cabinets come down soon =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are unstoppable, and some have AWD as well. Growing up, we had caravans as family vehicles and hauled a huge amount of stuff in them when necessary. I drove it on the highway for 7 hours once before needing to gas up. Most of us are mechanically inclined, but I'd rather my guys be out doing stuff for customers or making the company money rather than tinkering with vehicles. We work with local independent mechanics when we need something fixed. We tend to have enough vehicles that if one is out of service for a couple days, all the work can still get done. I treat personal transportation the same way; instead of 2 newish cars, we have 3-4 used cars and if one's broken for a while, no big deal. Excise tax in Maine on new cars is obscene and is based on sticker price; something with a $35000 sticker will cost about $1000 in excise tax the first year, plus sales tax, etc... On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:15:00AM -0800, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess it mostly boils down to how much depreciation you want to pay for, and are you willing to have down time now and then. I just have an extra rig, so... no problem. Not everyone wants to put up with that. It's really a cost/return/value thing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Lol...16sec 1/4 won't be nearly enough to stay in front of this particular Excursion and I highly doubt shaved tires will bring you to 15sec. In fact a quick youtube search comes up with a couple high 15sec low 16sec Excursions in STOCK trim. 16sec must only feel fast in a Dodge Goatgrin Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle Grin... My '93 wasn't quite stock, but I used to have a timeslip from a dragstrip showing a 16.00 second quarter mile for it. Some sticky
[WISPA] Trango PoEs
Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs
Yes, we have been using them for 3-4 years. They work great. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs
Somehow I just knew you would be the one to answer this =) Thank you very much!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yes, we have been using them for 3-4 years. They work great. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs
Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10 packs. We prefer to stay with the Trango ones. Yes, the Pac 24V reverse units are compatible with the Trangos. (PS, all the Trangos come with 24v PowerSupply now, even though Foxes used to come with 20V) There is one benefit to the Pac ones, that justify the extra $5 cost, is it uses a rugged power cord plug style, Apposed to a small din pin, that customers often break. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Trango PoEs Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1932 - Release Date: 2/3/2009 7:57 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs
Tom, Are the newest Trango PoE units also grounded like the Pac units (with the power cord)? We have fixed many customers that kept blowing ethernet ports on routers by switching to the Pac PoE units. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10 packs. We prefer to stay with the Trango ones. Yes, the Pac 24V reverse units are compatible with the Trangos. (PS, all the Trangos come with 24v PowerSupply now, even though Foxes used to come with 20V) There is one benefit to the Pac ones, that justify the extra $5 cost, is it uses a rugged power cord plug style, Apposed to a small din pin, that customers often break. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Trango PoEs Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1932 - Release Date: 2/3/2009 7:57 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs
As I only go on installs on a needed basis (when someone needs a hand, someone is learning, etc) I don't think of those picky things - but I do HATE wall warts versus the nice NEMA5-15 and grounding can never be a bad thing! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Tom, Are the newest Trango PoE units also grounded like the Pac units (with the power cord)? We have fixed many customers that kept blowing ethernet ports on routers by switching to the Pac PoE units. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10 packs. We prefer to stay with the Trango ones. Yes, the Pac 24V reverse units are compatible with the Trangos. (PS, all the Trangos come with 24v PowerSupply now, even though Foxes used to come with 20V) There is one benefit to the Pac ones, that justify the extra $5 cost, is it uses a rugged power cord plug style, Apposed to a small din pin, that customers often break. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Trango PoEs Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1932 - Release Date: 2/3/2009 7:57 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Letter to the Ones!
-- Original Message -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:23:10 -0500 Write it up, I can post there. Individuals that do have access to landline or cable that would rather use cell phone(not 3G), satellite, and our wireless for their needs! We are firstline providers. Not the OTHER guys. Rural AreasÂ…I have a problem with, as I live and operate in one. Hope to follow up with you on it. Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/