Re: [WISPA] Throttle

2009-08-05 Thread sales

Majority is Mikrotik for cpe with some trango mixed. The tower 
routers/bandwidth limiting is done via Mikrotik as well. Tower units are RB600 
or PC based Mikrotik.

 Currently we have a router setup at each tower site and do bandwidth limiting 
 on it with simple queues and the users ip. But we want to setup our billing 
 system so the office help can change packages and we just have it login to 
 the 
 ip in billing and automatically run a script to set the bandwidth throttle.

What kind of router and cpe?  Much of this will depend on the answers to
those questions.

 But is the a disadvantage to limiting at the cpe vs. the tower?

There is no disadvantage given the fact that you will be scripting the
configuration.  The only real disadvantage is the management aspect, but
with this being controlled centrally, there is no disadvantage at all.

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Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

2009-08-05 Thread Eric Rogers
:)  Yup.  We had 3 hit... We're back up and running.

Eric

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik

Shielded cable did not make a difference for me. After today's wicked 
electrical storms, I'm not sure what would.
BTW: I've lived in both Colorado and Florida along, with several other states, 
but never saw storms like the ones we get here in Kentucky - stats or no! It 
looks like us  Indiana were winners today.
-RickG

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Jayson Bakerjay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
 Try using shielded cable, and you won't have a problem.
 We're installed thousands in Colorado (second worst lightning in the 
 country, next to Florida) and everytime we install without shielded 
 cable-it's junk after a storm.  We use shielded cable on ALL 
 installs-customer installs as well.  And the good grounded PacWireless 
 POE injectors.  With thousands in service, it's rare we get a 
 lightning related service call.
 We justify the extra couple dollars in cable by saving the cost of 
 truck rolls, replacement equipment, and unhappy customers.

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Every 133 I used had a problem.  Be it software, hardware, DOA, 
 lightning, whatever.  Out of dozens out there none survived and were 
 replaced, necessarily, by a newer board.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however 
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dennis Burgess 
 dmburg...@linktechs.net
 wrote:

  Nothing that I have seen.  Sure they were not repackaged by your vendor?
  And/or like I suggested overclocked.
 
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  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
  Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:53 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
 
  Is anybody having problems with R433AH's Microtik cards out of the 
  box lately?  We purchased four this year so far and one beeped once 
  only on 18v not higher or loser voltages but it never beeped twice 
  or got to an interface we could use.
 
  We just installed another one and it now is giving kernel errors 
  and unless authenticate all is on everyone loses registration every 
  few hours.  We updated the firmware but with no positive result.
 
  My costs for tower climbers and anger from the 150 customers on the 
  radio that went bad the day after we installed it is getting costly 
  and wearing on my staff.  We're going back right now to reinstall 
  the old
  133 board.  Any others having these problems?
 
  Forbes Mercy
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Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical tape
the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.

The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I
love them:
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824eventPage=2

They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
forever.  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just last
week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good while.

I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm
sure someone will get an idea =)

Good list to have!

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)

 Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
 and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps

 Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
 without tools etc

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x102

 On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

  I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
  out
  what/if anything other people are doing.
 
 
 
  RF Prep
 
  1.   Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
  radios, etc.
 
 
 
  Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables
 
  1.   Use a 18-24 standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
  (sectors and backhauls).
 
  2.   Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.
 
  3.   Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
  around
  with heatshrink.
 
  4.   Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
  Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
  build
  up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
  RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
  any
  tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
  to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
  know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
  mastic,
  so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.
 
  5.   Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
  the road.
 
 
 
  Lightning Protection Side
 
  1.   Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
  MikroTik board.
 
  2.   Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.
 
  3.   Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding
 
  4.   Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
  ground source.
 
  5.   Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.
 
 
 
  Safety Fall Protection
 
  1.   Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.
 
  2.   Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
  towers.
 
  3.   We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
  positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.
 
  4.   Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
  and
  1k lb tag line.
 
  5.   Cable/Rope Grabs
 
  6.   Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class,
  works for me)
 
  7.   Safety plan and project meeting
 
 
 
  Base
 
  1.   We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the
  importance of the tower)
 
  2.   We install a monitor/remote power switch.
 
  3.   Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun.
 
  4.   Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart
  shops.
 
  5.   Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy
 
  6.   Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other
  surge
  supressors
 
  7.   Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to  3/4  x4'x4' plywood
 
  8.   Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH
 
 
 
  Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything.
  Happy
  vertical travels, and up you go.  Take your time, double check
  everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come down.
 
 
 
  I'm probably missing some things here, but that's what I can remember
  off-hand.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Chuck Hogg
 
  Shelby Broadband
  502-722-9292
  ch...@shelbybb.com
 
  http://www.shelbybb.com
 
 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

2009-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet ports
(RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering what
is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they just
had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
wish I had to just reset alarms.

 

So tell me, what do you do ? I'm tired of dumping a few grand during big
lightning storms.

 

I do the basics, Ethernet surge suppression up top and on the bottom,
Polyphasers, ground out to the ground bars, ground out the cat5 cable,
and no omni's.

 

Regards,

Chuck Hogg

Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com

http://www.shelbybb.com

 




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Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

2009-08-05 Thread Mike
I too disagree on the electrical tape.  An old installer taught me 
that 9 - 12 lengths of insulated solid #8 wire makes great bundle 
ties.  Before the climb, he cuts a bunch of them to length, stuffs 
them in his pouch.  On the way back down, every five feet or so he 
will take the wire around the bundle and around the tower leg.  Two 
twists with pliers, cut the tags and fold them over.  Quick, cheap 
and last forever.

At 09:18 AM 8/5/2009, you wrote:
I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical tape
the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.

The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I
love them:
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824eventPage=2

They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
forever.  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just last
week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good while.

I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm
sure someone will get an idea =)

Good list to have!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo 
sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

  Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)
 
  Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
  and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps
 
  Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
  without tools etc
 
  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  (321) 205-1100 x102
 
  On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 
   I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
   out
   what/if anything other people are doing.
  
  
  
   RF Prep
  
   1.   Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
   radios, etc.
  
  
  
   Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables
  
   1.   Use a 18-24 standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
   (sectors and backhauls).
  
   2.   Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.
  
   3.   Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
   around
   with heatshrink.
  
   4.   Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
   Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
   build
   up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
   RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
   any
   tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
   to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
   know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
   mastic,
   so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.
  
   5.   Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
   the road.
  
  
  
   Lightning Protection Side
  
   1.   Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
   MikroTik board.
  
   2.   Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.
  
   3.   Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding
  
   4.   Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
   ground source.
  
   5.   Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.
  
  
  
   Safety Fall Protection
  
   1.   Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.
  
   2.   Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
   towers.
  
   3.   We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
   positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.
  
   4.   Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
   and
   1k lb tag line.
  
   5.   Cable/Rope Grabs
  
   6.   Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class,
   works for me)
  
   7.   Safety plan and project meeting
  
  
  
   Base
  
   1.   We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the
   importance of the tower)
  
   2.   We install a monitor/remote power switch.
  
   3.   Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun.
  
   4.   Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart
   shops.
  
   5.   Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy
  
   6.   Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other
   surge
   supressors
  
   7.   Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to  3/4  x4'x4' plywood
  
   8.   Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH
  
  
  
   Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything.
   Happy
   vertical travels, and up you go.  Take your time, double check
   everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come down.
  
  
  
   I'm probably 

Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
On the Motorola list someone said that by using shielded connectors/cable
and soldering the drain wire on both ends they haven't lost anything to
lightning in Colorado OR Costa Rica (per him via NOAA the two of three worst
areas for lightning in North America).

Might just want to pull up that archive and read through the discussion.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
 tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet ports
 (RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering what
 is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
 RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they just
 had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
 wish I had to just reset alarms.



 So tell me, what do you do ? I'm tired of dumping a few grand during big
 lightning storms.



 I do the basics, Ethernet surge suppression up top and on the bottom,
 Polyphasers, ground out to the ground bars, ground out the cat5 cable,
 and no omni's.



 Regards,

 Chuck Hogg

 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com

 http://www.shelbybb.com






 
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[WISPA] NS2 OID for # Clients

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Anyone have the OID for # clients handy?



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[WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Lakeland
Hi Boys and Girls 

If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other 
than Proxim Vision please let me know. 

I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the 
crap out of my networks. 

I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that 
info. 

I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD do 
it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-) 

Tnx. 

Offlist if you want. 

Bob 

 

 

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Holbrook, NY 11741
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Is SNMP an option on those radios?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other
 than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the
 crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that
 info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





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Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

2009-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I have not seen any zip ties hold up.  Even the supposedly uv rated ones.

The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to use 
a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things.  Wrap that with good quality 
electrical tape to keep the sun off of it.

Or just do like the old timers.  I've seen some VERY old towers out here. 
What's holding that cable on 30 years later?  Wire.  Wrap it around a couple 
of times, twist and forget.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?


I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical tape
 the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
 Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.

 The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I
 love them:
 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824eventPage=2

 They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
 forever.  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just last
 week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good 
 while.

 I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm
 sure someone will get an idea =)

 Good list to have!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo 
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)

 Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
 and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps

 Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
 without tools etc

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x102

 On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

  I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
  out
  what/if anything other people are doing.
 
 
 
  RF Prep
 
  1.   Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
  radios, etc.
 
 
 
  Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables
 
  1.   Use a 18-24 standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
  (sectors and backhauls).
 
  2.   Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.
 
  3.   Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
  around
  with heatshrink.
 
  4.   Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
  Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
  build
  up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
  RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
  any
  tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
  to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
  know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
  mastic,
  so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.
 
  5.   Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
  the road.
 
 
 
  Lightning Protection Side
 
  1.   Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
  MikroTik board.
 
  2.   Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.
 
  3.   Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding
 
  4.   Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
  ground source.
 
  5.   Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.
 
 
 
  Safety Fall Protection
 
  1.   Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.
 
  2.   Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
  towers.
 
  3.   We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
  positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.
 
  4.   Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
  and
  1k lb tag line.
 
  5.   Cable/Rope Grabs
 
  6.   Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class,
  works for me)
 
  7.   Safety plan and project meeting
 
 
 
  Base
 
  1.   We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the
  importance of the tower)
 
  2.   We install a monitor/remote power switch.
 
  3.   Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun.
 
  4.   Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart
  shops.
 
  5.   Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy
 
  6.   Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other
  surge
  supressors
 
  7.   Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to  3/4  x4'x4' plywood
 
  8.   Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH
 
 
 
  Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything.
  Happy
  vertical travels, and up you go.  

Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2. 

While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG and we 
have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase 
anything. http://www.paessler.com

Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is open-source. 
This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti: 
http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

Jerry



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Lakeland
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Hi Boys and Girls 

If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other 
than Proxim Vision please let me know. 

I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the 
crap out of my networks. 

I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that 
info. 

I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD do 
it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-) 

Tnx. 

Offlist if you want. 

Bob 

 

 

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Lakeland Communications, Inc.
1350 Lincoln Avenue
Holbrook, NY 11741
800-479-9195
631-286-8873 Fax
516-551-1131 Cell



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Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

2009-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Nextel spends tens or hundreds of thousands per device.

Our stuff is cheaper than cheap.

Get off of the TOP of the tower.  Polyphaser has a great lightning white 
paper.  If you can be 10' below the top you'll be much more protected.

Also, I've had good luck lately with ferrite beads.

And ground everything.  Ground it again.  and again and again.

You might also want to consider adding a static dissipater on the top of the 
tower to help keep the lightning away in the first place.
http://www.affordable-solar.com/gs-1.brush.lightning.dissipator.htm
http://www.eriinc.com/products/btss/CA21831A_10.pdf

I think Hutton carries something too.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes


 Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
 tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet ports
 (RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering what
 is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
 RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they just
 had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
 wish I had to just reset alarms.



 So tell me, what do you do ? I'm tired of dumping a few grand during big
 lightning storms.



 I do the basics, Ethernet surge suppression up top and on the bottom,
 Polyphasers, ground out to the ground bars, ground out the cat5 cable,
 and no omni's.



 Regards,

 Chuck Hogg

 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com

 http://www.shelbybb.com





 
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Re: [WISPA] NS2 OID for # Clients

2009-08-05 Thread Michael Baird
I'm using mrtg, I did the following to obtain the amount of clients on 
the AP, I had to call an external script to sum them.
This should work for all Ubiquites w/AirOS 3.3.xx+.
Basically you just need to sum up the amount of entries in 
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.3.

Target line looks like, with the argument being the AP IP.
Target[10.130.1.13_clients]: `/home/mrtg/clientsap.pl 10.130.1.13`

The generic script I'm calling from mrtg to sum up the client entries in 
the snmp results.
#!/usr/bin/perl
$community=community
$ap=($ARGV[0]);
$mibcheck=`/usr/bin/snmpwalk -c $community -v1 $ap 
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.3`;
chop($mibcheck);
if ($mibcheck ne End of MIB) {
$clients=`/usr/bin/snmpwalk -c $community -v1 $ap 
.1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.1.2.1.3|wc -l`;
print $clients,$clients,0\n0\n;
}
else {
print 0\n0\n0\n0\n;
}

Regards
Michael Baird

 Anyone have the OID for # clients handy?


 
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Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

2009-08-05 Thread Scott Reed
I have a tower with UV plastic jacket stainless steel ties.  I think 
they are Panduit.  Install like normal ties.  Wider than normal and 
should last forever.  Not cheap, but ...

Some tower also has rubber coated loops with screw holes.  I did not 
supply them, so not sure where to find them.  Screwed them to the wire 
ladder.  Not as easy as ties, but wide and removable/reusable.

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 I have not seen any zip ties hold up.  Even the supposedly uv rated ones.

 The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to use 
 a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things.  Wrap that with good quality 
 electrical tape to keep the sun off of it.

 Or just do like the old timers.  I've seen some VERY old towers out here. 
 What's holding that cable on 30 years later?  Wire.  Wrap it around a couple 
 of times, twist and forget.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?


   
 I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical tape
 the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
 Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.

 The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and I
 love them:
 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824eventPage=2

 They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
 forever.  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just last
 week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good 
 while.

 I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but I'm
 sure someone will get an idea =)

 Good list to have!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo 
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 
 Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)

 Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
 and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps

 Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
 without tools etc

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x102

 On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

   
 I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
 out
 what/if anything other people are doing.



 RF Prep

 1.   Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
 radios, etc.



 Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables

 1.   Use a 18-24 standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
 (sectors and backhauls).

 2.   Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.

 3.   Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
 around
 with heatshrink.

 4.   Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
 Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
 build
 up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
 RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
 any
 tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
 to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
 know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
 mastic,
 so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.

 5.   Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
 the road.



 Lightning Protection Side

 1.   Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
 MikroTik board.

 2.   Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.

 3.   Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding

 4.   Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
 ground source.

 5.   Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.



 Safety Fall Protection

 1.   Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.

 2.   Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
 towers.

 3.   We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
 positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.

 4.   Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
 and
 1k lb tag line.

 5.   Cable/Rope Grabs

 6.   Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class,
 works for me)

 7.   Safety plan and project meeting



 Base

 1.   We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the
 importance of the tower)

 2.   We install a monitor/remote power switch.

 3.   Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun.

 4.   Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart
 shops.

 5.   Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy

Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

 While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG and
 we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

 You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase
 anything. http://www.paessler.com

 Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
 open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

 Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Lakeland
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other
 than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the
 crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that
 info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





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 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
They exist

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

 While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG and
 we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

 You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase
 anything. http://www.paessler.com

 Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
 open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

 Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Lakeland
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other
 than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the
 crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that
 info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





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 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits and
pieces but never everything that I wanted.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 They exist

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

  Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.
 
  While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG
 and
  we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.
 
  You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase
  anything. http://www.paessler.com
 
  Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
  open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
  http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html
 
  Jerry
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Lakeland
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
  do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
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  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
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[WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...

2009-08-05 Thread Lakeland

Anyone who knows me knows I'm network stupid. 

Anyone know if a Cisco 2955 has a view only log in that can be given to a 
customer that will show a GUI display and show traffic loading and condition 
of ports?  Just want to be able to log in and see if ports are up or down 
and bandwidth being used.  No changing info.. 

And it would need to be GUI not CL. 

Tnx 

 -B- 


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Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

2009-08-05 Thread jp
We've added a 2/0 (I think) insulated copper wire from the tower top rod 
to the grounding at the bottom. This has helped a great deal at the two 
towers we've done it at. The current will go mostly through this instead 
of mostly on the tower framework (or your shielding). It was about 
$3/foot, and a similar amount for installation labor.

The cell phone guys usually also run their own heavy duty ground down 
their cable management ladder next to their coaxes, probably for similar 
purposes.

We can't do this everywhere for various reasons, and we've lost a lot of 
money on lighting damage in July.

On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:31:42AM -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
 tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet ports
 (RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering what
 is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
 RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they just
 had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
 wish I had to just reset alarms.
 
  
 
 So tell me, what do you do ? I'm tired of dumping a few grand during big
 lightning storms.
 
  
 
 I do the basics, Ethernet surge suppression up top and on the bottom,
 Polyphasers, ground out to the ground bars, ground out the cat5 cable,
 and no omni's.
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 Chuck Hogg
 
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 
 http://www.shelbybb.com
 
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Spec sheet says it has a web GUI and multi-level console support. 

I imagine whatever rights the console user has are transferred to the web GUI 
(but that's a guess.)



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Of Lakeland
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:13 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...


Anyone who knows me knows I'm network stupid. 

Anyone know if a Cisco 2955 has a view only log in that can be given to a 
customer that will show a GUI display and show traffic loading and condition 
of ports?  Just want to be able to log in and see if ports are up or down 
and bandwidth being used.  No changing info.. 

And it would need to be GUI not CL. 

Tnx 

 -B- 


Bob Moldashel
Lakeland Communications, Inc.
1350 Lincoln Avenue
Holbrook, NY 11741
800-479-9195
631-286-8873 Fax
516-551-1131 Cell



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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you tell me where to get those templates?  That is what I would love to
have monitored.

Why does the SM/BHS have an ethernet link status of 4?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 these are what the templates provide. you can add OID's for other things
 pretty easily.



 AP and BHM use the same template

 SM and BHS use the same template



 [cid:image001.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]





 [cid:image002.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:08 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network



 I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits
 and

 pieces but never everything that I wanted.



 Josh Luthman

 Office: 937-552-2340

 Direct: 937-552-2343

 1100 Wayne St

 Suite 1337

 Troy, OH 45373



 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

 improbable, must be the truth.

 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle





 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson

 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:



  They exist

 

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Josh Luthman

  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 

  Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

 

  Josh Luthman

  Office: 937-552-2340

  Direct: 937-552-2343

  1100 Wayne St

  Suite 1337

  Troy, OH 45373

 

  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

  improbable, must be the truth.

  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson

  jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 

   Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

  

   While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG

  and

   we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

  

   You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase

   anything. http://www.paessler.com

  

   Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is

   open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:

   http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

  

   Jerry

  

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

   Behalf Of Lakeland

   Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM

   To: wireless@wispa.org

   Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

  

   Hi Boys and Girls

  

   If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios

  other

   than Proxim Vision please let me know.

  

   I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking

  the

   crap out of my networks.

  

   I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost

  that

   info.

  

   I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
 SHOULD

   do

   it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

  

   Tnx.

  

   Offlist if you want.

  

   Bob

  

  

  

  

  

   Bob Moldashel

   Lakeland Communications, Inc.

   1350 Lincoln Avenue

   Holbrook, NY 11741

   800-479-9195

   631-286-8873 Fax

   516-551-1131 Cell

  

  

  

  

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I'm gonna guess there is a code for No Link (1), 10 Full (2), 10 Half
(3), 100 Full (4), 100 Half (5)

I could be off, but I like guessing. Any confirmation on this? :)

Dylan

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Can you tell me where to get those templates?  That is what I would love
to
have monitored.

Why does the SM/BHS have an ethernet link status of 4?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 these are what the templates provide. you can add OID's for other
things
 pretty easily.



 AP and BHM use the same template

 SM and BHS use the same template



 [cid:image001.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]





 [cid:image002.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:08 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network



 I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got
bits
 and

 pieces but never everything that I wanted.



 Josh Luthman

 Office: 937-552-2340

 Direct: 937-552-2343

 1100 Wayne St

 Suite 1337

 Troy, OH 45373



 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

 improbable, must be the truth.

 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle





 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson

 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:



  They exist

 

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On

  Behalf Of Josh Luthman

  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 

  Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

 

  Josh Luthman

  Office: 937-552-2340

  Direct: 937-552-2343

  1100 Wayne St

  Suite 1337

  Troy, OH 45373

 

  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
however

  improbable, must be the truth.

  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson

  jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 

   Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

  

   While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using
PRTG

  and

   we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

  

   You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to
purchase

   anything. http://www.paessler.com

  

   Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is

   open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:

   http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

  

   Jerry

  

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

   Behalf Of Lakeland

   Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM

   To: wireless@wispa.org

   Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

  

   Hi Boys and Girls

  

   If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054
radios

  other

   than Proxim Vision please let me know.

  

   I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
choking

  the

   crap out of my networks.

  

   I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
lost

  that

   info.

  

   I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
 SHOULD

   do

   it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

  

   Tnx.

  

   Offlist if you want.

  

   Bob

  

  

  

  

  

   Bob Moldashel

   Lakeland Communications, Inc.

   1350 Lincoln Avenue

   Holbrook, NY 11741

   800-479-9195

   631-286-8873 Fax

   516-551-1131 Cell

  

  

  

  

 




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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
http://forums.cacti.net/about4345-0-asc-0.html

1 = 10HDX
2 = 10FDX
3 = 100HDX
4 = 100FDX

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Can you tell me where to get those templates?  That is what I would love to
have monitored.

Why does the SM/BHS have an ethernet link status of 4?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 these are what the templates provide. you can add OID's for other things
 pretty easily.



 AP and BHM use the same template

 SM and BHS use the same template



 [cid:image001.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]





 [cid:image002.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:08 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network



 I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits
 and

 pieces but never everything that I wanted.



 Josh Luthman

 Office: 937-552-2340

 Direct: 937-552-2343

 1100 Wayne St

 Suite 1337

 Troy, OH 45373



 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

 improbable, must be the truth.

 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle





 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson

 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:



  They exist

 

  -Original Message-

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

  Behalf Of Josh Luthman

  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM

  To: WISPA General List

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 

  Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

 

  Josh Luthman

  Office: 937-552-2340

  Direct: 937-552-2343

  1100 Wayne St

  Suite 1337

  Troy, OH 45373

 

  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

  improbable, must be the truth.

  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 

 

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson

  jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 

   Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

  

   While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG

  and

   we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.

  

   You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase

   anything. http://www.paessler.com

  

   Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is

   open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:

   http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

  

   Jerry

  

  

  

   -Original Message-

   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On

   Behalf Of Lakeland

   Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM

   To: wireless@wispa.org

   Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

  

   Hi Boys and Girls

  

   If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios

  other

   than Proxim Vision please let me know.

  

   I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking

  the

   crap out of my networks.

  

   I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost

  that

   info.

  

   I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
 SHOULD

   do

   it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

  

   Tnx.

  

   Offlist if you want.

  

   Bob

  

  

  

  

  

   Bob Moldashel

   Lakeland Communications, Inc.

   1350 Lincoln Avenue

   Holbrook, NY 11741

   800-479-9195

   631-286-8873 Fax

   516-551-1131 Cell

  

  

  

  

 
 

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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh nifty!

Are the top two templates the ones you're using?  If so I only got two of
the graphs to work and must have done something wrong somewhere.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 http://forums.cacti.net/about4345-0-asc-0.html

 1 = 10HDX
 2 = 10FDX
 3 = 100HDX
 4 = 100FDX

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:20 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Can you tell me where to get those templates?  That is what I would love to
 have monitored.

 Why does the SM/BHS have an ethernet link status of 4?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

  these are what the templates provide. you can add OID's for other things
  pretty easily.
 
 
 
  AP and BHM use the same template
 
  SM and BHS use the same template
 
 
 
  [cid:image001.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]
 
 
 
 
 
  [cid:image002.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:08 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
 
 
  I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits
  and
 
  pieces but never everything that I wanted.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman
 
  Office: 937-552-2340
 
  Direct: 937-552-2343
 
  1100 Wayne St
 
  Suite 1337
 
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 
  improbable, must be the truth.
 
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
 
  jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:
 
 
 
   They exist
 
  
 
   -Original Message-
 
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 
   Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM
 
   To: WISPA General List
 
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
  
 
   Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.
 
  
 
   Josh Luthman
 
   Office: 937-552-2340
 
   Direct: 937-552-2343
 
   1100 Wayne St
 
   Suite 1337
 
   Troy, OH 45373
 
  
 
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 
   improbable, must be the truth.
 
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
  
 
  
 
   On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
 
   jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:
 
  
 
Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.
 
   
 
While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using
 PRTG
 
   and
 
we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.
 
   
 
You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to
 purchase
 
anything. http://www.paessler.com
 
   
 
Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
 
open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 
http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html
 
   
 
Jerry
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
-Original Message-
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
 
Behalf Of Lakeland
 
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 
To: wireless@wispa.org
 
Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
   
 
Hi Boys and Girls
 
   
 
If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
 
   other
 
than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
   
 
I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
 choking
 
   the
 
crap out of my networks.
 
   
 
I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
 lost
 
   that
 
info.
 
   
 
I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
  SHOULD
 
do
 
it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
   
 
Tnx.
 
   
 
Offlist if you want.
 
   
 
Bob
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
Bob Moldashel
 
Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 
1350 Lincoln Avenue
 
Holbrook, NY 11741
 
800-479-9195
 
631-286-8873 Fax
 
516-551-1131 Cell
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 
http://signup.wispa.org/
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
   
 

Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
I think so. 

Bill Prince has more up-to-date info on changes made on the templates.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Oh nifty!

Are the top two templates the ones you're using?  If so I only got two of
the graphs to work and must have done something wrong somewhere.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 http://forums.cacti.net/about4345-0-asc-0.html

 1 = 10HDX
 2 = 10FDX
 3 = 100HDX
 4 = 100FDX

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:20 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Can you tell me where to get those templates?  That is what I would love to
 have monitored.

 Why does the SM/BHS have an ethernet link status of 4?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

  these are what the templates provide. you can add OID's for other things
  pretty easily.
 
 
 
  AP and BHM use the same template
 
  SM and BHS use the same template
 
 
 
  [cid:image001.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]
 
 
 
 
 
  [cid:image002.png@01CA15AD.1815FC60]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:08 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
 
 
  I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits
  and
 
  pieces but never everything that I wanted.
 
 
 
  Josh Luthman
 
  Office: 937-552-2340
 
  Direct: 937-552-2343
 
  1100 Wayne St
 
  Suite 1337
 
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 
  improbable, must be the truth.
 
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
 
  jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:
 
 
 
   They exist
 
  
 
   -Original Message-
 
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 
   Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM
 
   To: WISPA General List
 
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
  
 
   Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.
 
  
 
   Josh Luthman
 
   Office: 937-552-2340
 
   Direct: 937-552-2343
 
   1100 Wayne St
 
   Suite 1337
 
   Troy, OH 45373
 
  
 
   When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 
   improbable, must be the truth.
 
   --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
  
 
  
 
   On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
 
   jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:
 
  
 
Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.
 
   
 
While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using
 PRTG
 
   and
 
we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.
 
   
 
You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to
 purchase
 
anything. http://www.paessler.com
 
   
 
Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
 
open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 
http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html
 
   
 
Jerry
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
-Original Message-
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
 
Behalf Of Lakeland
 
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 
To: wireless@wispa.org
 
Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
   
 
Hi Boys and Girls
 
   
 
If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
 
   other
 
than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
   
 
I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
 choking
 
   the
 
crap out of my networks.
 
   
 
I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
 lost
 
   that
 
info.
 
   
 
I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
  SHOULD
 
do
 
it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
   
 
Tnx.
 
   
 
Offlist if you want.
 
   
 
Bob
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
Bob Moldashel
 
Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 
1350 Lincoln Avenue
 
Holbrook, NY 11741
 
800-479-9195
 
631-286-8873 Fax
 
516-551-1131 Cell
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
  

[WISPA] Joliet, IL bandwidth

2009-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Can anyone immediately deliver 20 megs to the Joliet, IL CO or a business off 
of that?  Short contract term is required unless terms are good.  They do have 
towers available for wireless delivery.

They've encountered problems getting their OC3 to 350 Cermak installed in a 
timely fashion.


-
Mike Hammett
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Jason Hensley
We use Dude for monitoring, but we don't do Canopy.  But, looks like it
works well with Canopy:  http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=8t=13041



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff.  I got bits and
pieces but never everything that I wanted.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 They exist

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

  Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.
 
  While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG
 and
  we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor.
 
  You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase
  anything. http://www.paessler.com
 
  Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is
  open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
  http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html
 
  Jerry
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Lakeland
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
 
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
SHOULD
  do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  Bob Moldashel
  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
  800-479-9195
  631-286-8873 Fax
  516-551-1131 Cell
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Intermapper

 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

 While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using 
 PRTG and we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not
monitor.

 You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase

 anything. http://www.paessler.com

 Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is 
 open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

 Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Lakeland
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios 
 other than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking

 the crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost

 that info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





 Bob Moldashel
 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
 631-286-8873 Fax
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Re: [WISPA] Direct Lightning Strikes

2009-08-05 Thread Scott Reed
We did something similar on a tower where we had a PacWireless SO24-xx 
antenna at the top.  Ran a piece of 10AWG up so it stuck up about 1 foot 
above the antenna.  Never took a lightning hit.  Can't say so much for 
the wind, though.  Blew the cover off one day.

jp wrote:
 We've added a 2/0 (I think) insulated copper wire from the tower top rod 
 to the grounding at the bottom. This has helped a great deal at the two 
 towers we've done it at. The current will go mostly through this instead 
 of mostly on the tower framework (or your shielding). It was about 
 $3/foot, and a similar amount for installation labor.

 The cell phone guys usually also run their own heavy duty ground down 
 their cable management ladder next to their coaxes, probably for similar 
 purposes.

 We can't do this everywhere for various reasons, and we've lost a lot of 
 money on lighting damage in July.

 On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:31:42AM -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
   
 Has anyone been able to withstand a direct lightning strike? We had a
 tower get hit last night, and some of our equipment lost Ethernet ports
 (RB/433AH), and we lost 3 canopy APs, but that is all (considering what
 is all up there only 2/3rds was blown).  Our Trango AP survived and a
 RB/433AH survived.  Even Nextel had their guys out there, but they just
 had to reset alarms it appears as nothing was fried on their end.  I
 wish I had to just reset alarms.

  

 So tell me, what do you do ? I'm tired of dumping a few grand during big
 lightning storms.

  

 I do the basics, Ethernet surge suppression up top and on the bottom,
 Polyphasers, ground out to the ground bars, ground out the cat5 cable,
 and no omni's.

  

 Regards,

 Chuck Hogg

 Shelby Broadband
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread lakeland
Thanks but a little pricey.

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:06:05 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network


Intermapper

 


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

 While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using 
 PRTG and we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not
monitor.

 You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase

 anything. http://www.paessler.com

 Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is 
 open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

 Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Lakeland
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios 
 other than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking

 the crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost

 that info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





 Bob Moldashel
 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
 631-286-8873 Fax
 516-551-1131 Cell



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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
Dude :)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Thanks but a little pricey.

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:06:05 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network


Intermapper

 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

Big list.  Noticed no Canopy on there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson
jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote:

 Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2.

 While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using 
 PRTG and we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not
monitor.

 You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase

 anything. http://www.paessler.com

 Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is 
 open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti:
 http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html

 Jerry



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Lakeland
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios 
 other than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking

 the crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost

 that info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
SHOULD
 do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





 Bob Moldashel
 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
 631-286-8873 Fax
 516-551-1131 Cell



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[WISPA] Atmosphere or radio temp affects signal?

2009-08-05 Thread Jayson Baker
[image: bh.png]

Is the affect on the signal a result of the temperature of the radio
(MikroTik), or change in propogation at 5GHz through the atmosphere?
Interesting how the power levels flip during the day, and revert back at
night (i.e. receive levels higher from one, vs the other)
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Re: [WISPA] Atmosphere or radio temp affects signal?

2009-08-05 Thread Robert West
The temp of the radio as well as the processor on the card.  Both generate
heat, heat expands the circuits and slows down the passing of information.
The cards generally have a heat sink on the processor and some of the higher
power radios have heat sinks on them as well, as I'm sure you know but I
just have to throw all that in.

Some of the Mikrotik boards have a fan header.  I know the 600a's have 2,
one for primary and when the board senses the primary fan not functioning,
it will switch over to the secondary.  The issue, however, is wicking the
heat away from the components inside an enclosed box.  Lots of ways out
there, just have to find a solution that works for you.  I saw one member
here, I think, who has a larger heat sink machined for their boards due to
heat issues in the southern regions but I can't find that thread.  

An example, if your computer at home has a fan failure on the processor or
the heat sink is choked with dust and can't wick away the heat, the pc will
be sluggish and start to lockup and finally will lock every time just
seconds after boot.  Heat kills.


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Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Atmosphere or radio temp affects signal?

[image: bh.png]

Is the affect on the signal a result of the temperature of the radio
(MikroTik), or change in propogation at 5GHz through the atmosphere?
Interesting how the power levels flip during the day, and revert back at
night (i.e. receive levels higher from one, vs the other)




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Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

2009-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Panduit has a boat load of zip ties...  I work part time in their central 
warehouse.

http://www.panduit.com/Products/ProductOverviews/CableTies/index.htm


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From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:57 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?

 I have a tower with UV plastic jacket stainless steel ties.  I think
 they are Panduit.  Install like normal ties.  Wider than normal and
 should last forever.  Not cheap, but ...

 Some tower also has rubber coated loops with screw holes.  I did not
 supply them, so not sure where to find them.  Screwed them to the wire
 ladder.  Not as easy as ties, but wide and removable/reusable.

 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 I have not seen any zip ties hold up.  Even the supposedly uv rated ones.

 The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is to 
 use
 a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things.  Wrap that with good quality
 electrical tape to keep the sun off of it.

 Or just do like the old timers.  I've seen some VERY old towers out here.
 What's holding that cable on 30 years later?  Wire.  Wrap it around a 
 couple
 of times, twist and forget.

 marlon

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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method?



 I disagree on the electrical tape.  Every climb where I see electrical 
 tape
 the stuff is remarkably frail.  A stiff breeze would peel it right off.
 Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw.

 The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these and 
 I
 love them:
 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824eventPage=2

 They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last
 forever.  As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut.  Just 
 last
 week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good
 while.

 I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but 
 I'm
 sure someone will get an idea =)

 Good list to have!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:


 Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m)

 Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie wrap
 and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps

 Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove
 without tools etc

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x102

 On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:


 I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and find
 out
 what/if anything other people are doing.



 RF Prep

 1.   Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas,
 radios, etc.



 Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables

 1.   Use a 18-24 standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg
 (sectors and backhauls).

 2.   Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape.

 3.   Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal
 around
 with heatshrink.

 4.   Use Dielectric Grease on all connections.  Protects the
 Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to
 build
 up on the connector and get water inside the cable.  I also use it on
 RF.  Once I was on a building and installing a link.  I didn't have
 any
 tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the  connector.  I went back
 to that building a year later and the connections are still solid.  I
 know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using
 mastic,
 so this was bare and it was dry.  Link is still solid.

 5.   Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down
 the road.



 Lightning Protection Side

 1.   Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any
 MikroTik board.

 2.   Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections.

 3.   Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding

 4.   Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to
 ground source.

 5.   Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield.



 Safety Fall Protection

 1.   Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there.

 2.   Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those
 towers.

 3.   We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2
 positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel.

 4.   Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope
 and
 1k lb tag line.

 5.   Cable/Rope Grabs

 6.   

Re: [WISPA] Atmosphere or radio temp affects signal?

2009-08-05 Thread David E. Smith
Jayson Baker wrote:

 Is the affect on the signal a result of the temperature of the radio
 (MikroTik), or change in propogation at 5GHz through the atmosphere?
 Interesting how the power levels flip during the day, and revert back at
 night (i.e. receive levels higher from one, vs the other)

That graph looks eerily like the graphs I have of SNR level on a number 
of longer 5.8GHz links, using not only Mikrotik radios, but also Trango 
and Alvarion. I see this a lot in the summer, occasionally in spring and 
autumn, and rarely in winter.

Curiously, it seems to be more pronounce on north-south links than 
east-west ones.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] Joliet, IL bandwidth

2009-08-05 Thread Charles Wu
Our old WISP had a tower on the Chicagoland Speedway in Joliet (200+ foot 
monopole) with plenty (100 Mb+) of bandwidth

I believe BOB (the guys that bought my WISP) still operate that site

http://www.bobbroadband.com 

-Charles

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Joliet, IL bandwidth

Can anyone immediately deliver 20 megs to the Joliet, IL CO or a business off 
of that?  Short contract term is required unless terms are good.  They do have 
towers available for wireless delivery.

They've encountered problems getting their OC3 to 350 Cermak installed in a 
timely fashion.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread ccrum
The Wisp Monitor at Wispmon.com. It will montior all devices on your 
network and give you status in real time on a map. You can see a demo on 
a live network at www.wispmon.com. It will handle any device capable of 
SNMP and is viewable from anywhere.

Cameron

Lakeland wrote:
 Hi Boys and Girls 

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other 
 than Proxim Vision please let me know. 

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the 
 crap out of my networks. 

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that 
 info. 

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD do 
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-) 

 Tnx. 

 Offlist if you want. 

 Bob 

  

  

 Bob Moldashel
 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
 631-286-8873 Fax
 516-551-1131 Cell


 
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
wispmon Demo gives me:

faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend
faultString:'Send failed'
faultDetail:'Channel.Security.Error error Error
#2048 url:
'http://www.wispmon.com:8080/wispmon-service/messagebroker/amf;

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:

 The Wisp Monitor at Wispmon.com. It will montior all devices on your
 network and give you status in real time on a map. You can see a demo on
 a live network at www.wispmon.com. It will handle any device capable of
 SNMP and is viewable from anywhere.

 Cameron

 Lakeland wrote:
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
 do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  Bob Moldashel
  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
  800-479-9195
  631-286-8873 Fax
  516-551-1131 Cell
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...

2009-08-05 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/8/5 Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net:

 Anyone who knows me knows I'm network stupid.

 Anyone know if a Cisco 2955 has a view only log in that can be given to a
 customer that will show a GUI display and show traffic loading and condition
 of ports?  Just want to be able to log in and see if ports are up or down
 and bandwidth being used.  No changing info..

 And it would need to be GUI not CL.

You could give them a login, with no enable password, or through the
use of privilege levels, you can set up a custom level for them, and
define what commands they have access to.



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Re: [WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...

2009-08-05 Thread lakeland
Tnx
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:29:12 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT A quick stupid Cisco question...


2009/8/5 Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net:

 Anyone who knows me knows I'm network stupid.

 Anyone know if a Cisco 2955 has a view only log in that can be given to a
 customer that will show a GUI display and show traffic loading and condition
 of ports?  Just want to be able to log in and see if ports are up or down
 and bandwidth being used.  No changing info..

 And it would need to be GUI not CL.

You could give them a login, with no enable password, or through the
use of privilege levels, you can set up a custom level for them, and
define what commands they have access to.



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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
Works for me. Firefox.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

wispmon Demo gives me:

faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend
faultString:'Send failed'
faultDetail:'Channel.Security.Error error Error
#2048 url:
'http://www.wispmon.com:8080/wispmon-service/messagebroker/amf;

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:

 The Wisp Monitor at Wispmon.com. It will montior all devices on your
 network and give you status in real time on a map. You can see a demo
on
 a live network at www.wispmon.com. It will handle any device capable
of
 SNMP and is viewable from anywhere.

 Cameron

 Lakeland wrote:
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054
radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
SHOULD
 do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  Bob Moldashel
  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
  800-479-9195
  631-286-8873 Fax
  516-551-1131 Cell
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Luthman
3.5 or 3.0?

On 8/5/09, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Works for me. Firefox.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:47 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 wispmon Demo gives me:

 faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend
 faultString:'Send failed'
 faultDetail:'Channel.Security.Error error Error
 #2048 url:
 'http://www.wispmon.com:8080/wispmon-service/messagebroker/amf;

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:

 The Wisp Monitor at Wispmon.com. It will montior all devices on your
 network and give you status in real time on a map. You can see a demo
 on
 a live network at www.wispmon.com. It will handle any device capable
 of
 SNMP and is viewable from anywhere.

 Cameron

 Lakeland wrote:
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054
 radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
 choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
 lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
 SHOULD
 do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  Bob Moldashel
  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
  800-479-9195
  631-286-8873 Fax
  516-551-1131 Cell
 
 
 

 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
3.5

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

3.5 or 3.0?

On 8/5/09, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Works for me. Firefox.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:47 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

 wispmon Demo gives me:

 faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend
 faultString:'Send failed'
 faultDetail:'Channel.Security.Error error Error
 #2048 url:
 'http://www.wispmon.com:8080/wispmon-service/messagebroker/amf;

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:07 PM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote:

 The Wisp Monitor at Wispmon.com. It will montior all devices on your
 network and give you status in real time on a map. You can see a demo
 on
 a live network at www.wispmon.com. It will handle any device capable
 of
 SNMP and is viewable from anywhere.

 Cameron

 Lakeland wrote:
  Hi Boys and Girls
 
  If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054
 radios
 other
  than Proxim Vision please let me know.
 
  I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without
 choking
 the
  crap out of my networks.
 
  I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but
 lost
 that
  info.
 
  I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that
 SHOULD
 do
  it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)
 
  Tnx.
 
  Offlist if you want.
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 
 
  Bob Moldashel
  Lakeland Communications, Inc.
  1350 Lincoln Avenue
  Holbrook, NY 11741
  800-479-9195
  631-286-8873 Fax
  516-551-1131 Cell
 
 
 



 
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network

2009-08-05 Thread Joe Laura
Try PRTG. www.paessler.com It just takes a sec to download it for free and
you can add one or two radios. I monitor B/W on over 100 CPE's. Joe Laura
- Original Message - 
From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network


 Hi Boys and Girls

 If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios
other
 than Proxim Vision please let me know.

 I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the
 crap out of my networks.

 I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost
that
 info.

 I am looking for a system that is doing this.  Not a system that SHOULD
do
 it.  Worked with enough of those already.  :-)

 Tnx.

 Offlist if you want.

 Bob





 Bob Moldashel
 Lakeland Communications, Inc.
 1350 Lincoln Avenue
 Holbrook, NY 11741
 800-479-9195
 631-286-8873 Fax
 516-551-1131 Cell


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[WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-05 Thread Tim Kerns
I just received a couple to begin testing (more like playing with) and I'm 
not sure of the Freq. it covers.

The selections are :

5180 to 5320 in 20 meg increments.

5745 to 5805 in 20 meg increments

but it also has:

5500 to 5680 in 20 meg increments.

Is this unlicensed spectrum?  I thought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 
5680 was.

Thanks,

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.




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