Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
That I agree with. But not a favor of RSTP for Wireless redundancy. Both PRimary and Secondary link need to be able to be monitored in real time, otherwise you cant guarantee the secondary link will be working when the first one fails. Often to prevent bridgeloop, one link has to be turned down with RSTP, thus easier with routing.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Glenn Kelley" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >I could not agree more! > _ > Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com > Email: gl...@hostmedic.com > Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > >> No critical link should ever be standalone whether using expensive >> equipment or using lower cost equipment. Always a good idea to put a >> second redundant link in running something like RSTP or OSPF. >> >> >> Gino Villarini wrote: >>> >>> Whatever rocks your world! >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> 787.273.4143 >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of George Morris >>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:54 AM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >>> >>> Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. >>> >>> The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed >>> properly. >>> >>> I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on >>> gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't >>> really >>> necessary. >>> >>> Yikes right back at ya. >>> George >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >>> >>> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed >>> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >>> >>> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 >>> Link! >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> 787.273.4143 >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Reply-To: WISPA General List >>> >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be able to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for you for free if you wish. http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn WISPA Members get free assembly. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at such a short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at that range. Sent from my iPhone --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Jayson, If that turns out to be the case, it would of course be very exciting for the industry. But, so far, both Ubiquiti and Atheros had been silent about this topic. Our (unofficial and non-expert) investigation inferred that Atheros chipset AR9220 series (Mikrotik) has Spectrum analyzer support and last generation AR9160 (Ubiquiti) does not. >From what I understood this was a chipset or chipset middleware limit, not an Operating System Firmware thing. So how does Ubiquiti plan to accomplish this? A Hardware upgrade? It would be great if I were wrong. Was this new news from the recent Ubiquiti conferences? > It's sweet. I can't wait. It would have to hear other than 802.11, it would have to hear when not associated, it would have to hear any channel size. Have you seen it? Are there Betas? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jayson Baker" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > Wait until you see the next release of firmware for the Ubiquiti MIMO > equipment. > Built-in spectrum analyzer, 1x better than Mikrotik, and almost as > good > as our $30k HP analyzer. > Runs on the unit itself, while it's installed, in place, connected to the > antenna. > Can even run while the radio is in use and connected, but at a slower > rate. > It's sweet. I can't wait. > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Tom DeReggi > wrote: > >> MT is not a replacement for an APEX, since the value of the APEX is >> LICENSED >> spectrum. >> >> But, I share Chuck's praise for MT. WISPs have been running reliable >> backbones on unlicenced spectrum and MT successfully for years. >> The new MT hardware and Firmwares are really nice and plenty reliable. >> For >> any link 50mbps or less, I'd select an Unlicensed solution without >> hesitation. >> Specifically, MT w/ WDS and NStreme will do 30mbps HDX on a 20Mhz channel >> easilly. As well, if you use the latest N class mPCI, you can set it up >> with >> a Dual Pol panel. >> I personally do not like Mimo configs much, but I like using N cards for >> manual on-the-fly polarity change/selection. >> >> I prefer the MT over the Ubiquiti, because the MT can do channel scans >> now, >> and thats important to be able to quickly identify free channels if >> Interference is ever received. >> But I really like the Ubiquiti antennas, that make DP inexpensive. >> >> I personally prefer Tlink-45s, which are a great radio, because they are >> a >> ready to go solution. But off-promo MT can save you a few dollars. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Chuck Hogg" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> >> > We do as well. One of our MT links has more stability and reliability >> > than a neighboring Trango Apex link. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Chuck >> > >> > On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone >> >> feed >> >> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >> >> >> >> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed >> >> DS3 >> >> Link! >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> >> 787.273.4143 >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >> >> To: WISPA General List >> >> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off >> >> list. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" >> >>> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >> >>> To: "WISPA General List" >> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> >>> >> >> >> >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >> >>> able >> >>> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >> >>> you >> >>> for free if you wish. >> >>> >> >>> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >> >>> >> >>> WISPA Members get free assembly. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Chuck Hogg >> >>> Shelby Broadband >> >>> 502-722-9292 >> >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >> >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -Original Message- >> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> >>> On >> >>> Behalf Of Robert West >> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >> >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >>> >> >>> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >> >>> such >> >>> a >> >>> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the Air
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
I stand corrected. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 05:38:06PM -0500, Robert West wrote: > Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for > the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high dollar > crapola. Don't say cheap. It's simply more cost effective. Labor is free, after all. > Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using parts > from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old > Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. Pickle juice has horrible RF properties. Use a mixture of 50% carrot juice, 20% vidalia onion, and 30% green, unripe, lemon squeezeings. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org PS. people please trim at least the footer lines the mailing put on. I must have had to delete at least 200 lines of nothing but footers. Also, if you're going to top post, you might as well not even include the original message. Particularly in these kinds of threads. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
We've gone backwards. The next phone to come out will have smoke signals. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] test What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2025791 097 Yeah... Kids today got things to learn ;) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West wrote: > That would be SOS in morse. So there! > > That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > ha ha > > > heres a test > > ... _ _ _ ... > > wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real > fast ;-) > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > > even > > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
I tried to learn semaphore as a kid but I just couldn't get it. So here I was, out with my friend Timmy exploring the woods and he goes and falls into a well. I had the flags and I just couldn't remember the positions to signal the rangers that we needed help for Timmy who fell into the well. So I had to rely on his dog Lassie had to go for help. The rest is history -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West wrote: > That would be SOS in morse. So there! > > That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > ha ha > > > heres a test > > ... _ _ _ ... > > wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real > fast ;-) > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > > even > > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
ROFL - pickle juice has horrible RF properties... that is awesome! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
I have 26 letters on 26 keys on my phone. I'd have to imagine 1 key/letter being easier then 2-4 depresses/letter. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > In the speed texting championships you are not allowed any spellaids or > predictive text program. > The fastest texters all recorded their speed texting on 12 key phones. > I could see allowing a competition between a qwerty keyboard and morse. But > spellaids and predictive text programs wouldn't be fair. I still believe > morse would win because keys are smaller and harder to find on a qwerty then > double/triple tapping a one out of 12 keys. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > Rigged. There is no Blackberry keyboard - just that awful 12-key > thing (not t9 autofill, but a total of 12 keys). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... >> >> > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2025791 >> 097 >> >> Yeah... Kids today got things to learn >> >> ;) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] test >> >> Maybe not strange, but happy: >> http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm >> >> This wouldve been nice as a child: >> http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml >> >> This is kinda funny: >> http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html >> >> -RickG >> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West >> wrote: >> >>> That would be SOS in morse. So there! >>> >>> That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley >>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] test >>> >>> ha ha >>> >>> >>> heres a test >>> >>> ... _ _ _ ... >>> >>> wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real >>> fast ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: >>> >>> > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't >>> > even >>> > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On >>> > Behalf Of Gino Villarini >>> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM >>> > To: WISPA General List >>> > Subject: [WISPA] test >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gino A. Villarini >>> > >>> > g...@aeronetpr.com >>> > >>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> > >>> > 787.273.4143 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> > >>> > >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >> -
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 05:38:06PM -0500, Robert West wrote: > Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for > the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high dollar > crapola. Don't say cheap. It's simply more cost effective. Labor is free, after all. > Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using parts > from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old > Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. Pickle juice has horrible RF properties. Use a mixture of 50% carrot juice, 20% vidalia onion, and 30% green, unripe, lemon squeezeings. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org PS. people please trim at least the footer lines the mailing put on. I must have had to delete at least 200 lines of nothing but footers. Also, if you're going to top post, you might as well not even include the original message. Particularly in these kinds of threads. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
In the speed texting championships you are not allowed any spellaids or predictive text program. The fastest texters all recorded their speed texting on 12 key phones. I could see allowing a competition between a qwerty keyboard and morse. But spellaids and predictive text programs wouldn't be fair. I still believe morse would win because keys are smaller and harder to find on a qwerty then double/triple tapping a one out of 12 keys. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Rigged. There is no Blackberry keyboard - just that awful 12-key thing (not t9 autofill, but a total of 12 keys). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... > > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2025791 > 097 > > Yeah... Kids today got things to learn > > ;) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > Maybe not strange, but happy: > http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm > > This wouldve been nice as a child: > http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml > > This is kinda funny: > http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html > > -RickG > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West > wrote: > >> That would be SOS in morse. So there! >> >> That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] test >> >> ha ha >> >> >> heres a test >> >> ... _ _ _ ... >> >> wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real >> fast ;-) >> >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: >> >> > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't >> > even >> > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Gino Villarini >> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: [WISPA] test >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Gino A. Villarini >> > >> > g...@aeronetpr.com >> > >> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> > >> > 787.273.4143 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@w
Re: [WISPA] test
Rigged. There is no Blackberry keyboard - just that awful 12-key thing (not t9 autofill, but a total of 12 keys). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... > > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2025791 > 097 > > Yeah... Kids today got things to learn > > ;) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > Maybe not strange, but happy: > http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm > > This wouldve been nice as a child: > http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml > > This is kinda funny: > http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html > > -RickG > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West > wrote: > >> That would be SOS in morse. So there! >> >> That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] test >> >> ha ha >> >> >> heres a test >> >> ... _ _ _ ... >> >> wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real >> fast ;-) >> >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: >> >> > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't >> > even >> > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Gino Villarini >> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: [WISPA] test >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Gino A. Villarini >> > >> > g...@aeronetpr.com >> > >> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> > >> > 787.273.4143 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants Y
Re: [WISPA] test
What is faster morse code or cell phone texting... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2025791 097 Yeah... Kids today got things to learn ;) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West wrote: > That would be SOS in morse. So there! > > That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > ha ha > > > heres a test > > ... _ _ _ ... > > wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real > fast ;-) > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > > even > > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
Maybe not strange, but happy: http://www.happychild.org.uk/ifs/3mrs.htm This wouldve been nice as a child: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/morse.shtml This is kinda funny: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/coder.html -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert West wrote: > That would be SOS in morse. So there! > > That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] test > > ha ha > > > heres a test > > ... _ _ _ ... > > wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real > fast ;-) > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > > even > > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy SM Setup Issues
This happens even with our radio that we do site surveys with. Everything on that is default except Region, Frequency and Color Code. No NAT or DHCP. Dave On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > First guess...you have NAT and DHCP enabled and when the radio reboots > your PC gives up on DHCP (because the SM is rebooting). > > On 1/31/10, David Hannum wrote: > > For about the past two weeks, we've been having problems setting up or > > Canopy 900 MHz SM units. It's really odd. For example, today I went out > to > > do site surveys. When I connected to my survey radio and it seemed fine > at > > first. I have the page set to refresh every three seconds for doing site > > surveys. After about 5-7 page refreshes, I cannot load the page any > more. > > The network icon on my system tray, goes from "local only" to a warning > > indicator and "limited connectivity" status. This "limited connectivity" > > status is the problem we've been having where we can't get back into the > > radios after a change has been made. > > Another example is: An installer has configured a radio, and put in an > IP > > address of, 192.168.5.1. When he reboots the radio, before he could get > > back in (provided he left the Management VID pass through enabled) he > > could simply go to the IP 192.168.5.1 with his web browser, and the > > interface would come back up. Lately, he's been having an issue where > (and > > I've experienced it too), after he reboots, he cannot get back into the > > radio. He might try and try, but only when he puts the default plug in > > can he get back in. Then, if he does a reset to factory defaults, he can > > get in. But if he changes even one little thing in the radio (say, > > frequency from all to a specific channel) and reboots, he's locked out of > > the radio again. We've had cases where if we drive down the road a few > > miles, and stop the vehicle, and plug that same radio that we could not > get > > back into earlier, into our computer, we can get in again. Then, if we > go > > to the customers to install it, we cannot get back in again. What might > be > > causing this issue. > > > > We had an install Friday where the installer configured the radio at > home, > > rebooted it several time to make sure he could get back in, and he could. > > He drove to the customer, hung the radio, fired it up and could not get > back > > in. I went in from my console, and could see the radio on the network. > I > > made the final adjustments and told him to try to go to a web page. He > > could not (this is the same computer that he set the radio up with > > earlier). He plugged the radio into the customer's computer and they > could > > get online. He plugged it back into his, and he could not. He took the > > same computer to the next home, and every thing worked fine. What could > be > > happening here? We're having this issue with every laptop we own, on > every > > browser (IE, Firefox, etc). These are Dell Vostro 1510 laptops with > Windows > > Vista Home. They have worked flawlessly until now. Funny that all three > > would develop the same problem at the same time. The timing of this > issue > > seems to coincide with the wave of the Microsoft updates & patches of the > > past two weeks. Today, I had my site survey radio and a radio that was > > programmed. I was switching back and forth between the two, probably > 10-12 > > times during a hour and a half period. I'd like the screen sit and > refresh > > for 15 or so minutes at a time, no problem. I then when out, with the > same > > radios and same laptop, to do a site survey and everything broke again. > I > > fired up the site survey radio. The page refreshed about 5 to 7 times > then > > that was it. I was unable to connect with the radio again, regardless of > > what I did with one exception. When the default plug is in the radio, > there > > never seems to be an issue (except you can't do the survey with it in > > there). > > > > Is anyone else experiencing this sort of thing, or are we just special? > > > > We're wondering if it's a temperature thing on the laptops. It seems > that > > when we can get in and do anything we want, it's in the warmth of a house > or > > car. When we take the laptop out in sub 30 degree temps, it triggers > this > > behavior. Could just be a coincidence . . . > > > > Kind Regards, > > David Hannum > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Agreed as well, I wasn't trying to say that the Apex wasn't as good as the MT. My point was that at some point different backhauls have their issues and I wasn't trying to say that they are better or worse, just that a $10k link from them doesn't necessarily mean more stability. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul MT is not a replacement for an APEX, since the value of the APEX is LICENSED spectrum. But, I share Chuck's praise for MT. WISPs have been running reliable backbones on unlicenced spectrum and MT successfully for years. The new MT hardware and Firmwares are really nice and plenty reliable. For any link 50mbps or less, I'd select an Unlicensed solution without hesitation. Specifically, MT w/ WDS and NStreme will do 30mbps HDX on a 20Mhz channel easilly. As well, if you use the latest N class mPCI, you can set it up with a Dual Pol panel. I personally do not like Mimo configs much, but I like using N cards for manual on-the-fly polarity change/selection. I prefer the MT over the Ubiquiti, because the MT can do channel scans now, and thats important to be able to quickly identify free channels if Interference is ever received. But I really like the Ubiquiti antennas, that make DP inexpensive. I personally prefer Tlink-45s, which are a great radio, because they are a ready to go solution. But off-promo MT can save you a few dollars. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > We do as well. One of our MT links has more stability and reliability > than a neighboring Trango Apex link. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" > wrote: > >> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone >> feed >> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >> >> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed >> DS3 >> Link! >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> 787.273.4143 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off >> list. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" >>> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List >>> >> >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >>> able >>> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >>> you >>> for free if you wish. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >>> >>> WISPA Members get free assembly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >>> such >>> a >>> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >>> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to >>> get >>> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >>> that range. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --
Re: [WISPA] Motorola Canopy SM Setup Issues
First guess...you have NAT and DHCP enabled and when the radio reboots your PC gives up on DHCP (because the SM is rebooting). On 1/31/10, David Hannum wrote: > For about the past two weeks, we've been having problems setting up or > Canopy 900 MHz SM units. It's really odd. For example, today I went out to > do site surveys. When I connected to my survey radio and it seemed fine at > first. I have the page set to refresh every three seconds for doing site > surveys. After about 5-7 page refreshes, I cannot load the page any more. > The network icon on my system tray, goes from "local only" to a warning > indicator and "limited connectivity" status. This "limited connectivity" > status is the problem we've been having where we can't get back into the > radios after a change has been made. > Another example is: An installer has configured a radio, and put in an IP > address of, 192.168.5.1. When he reboots the radio, before he could get > back in (provided he left the Management VID pass through enabled) he > could simply go to the IP 192.168.5.1 with his web browser, and the > interface would come back up. Lately, he's been having an issue where (and > I've experienced it too), after he reboots, he cannot get back into the > radio. He might try and try, but only when he puts the default plug in > can he get back in. Then, if he does a reset to factory defaults, he can > get in. But if he changes even one little thing in the radio (say, > frequency from all to a specific channel) and reboots, he's locked out of > the radio again. We've had cases where if we drive down the road a few > miles, and stop the vehicle, and plug that same radio that we could not get > back into earlier, into our computer, we can get in again. Then, if we go > to the customers to install it, we cannot get back in again. What might be > causing this issue. > > We had an install Friday where the installer configured the radio at home, > rebooted it several time to make sure he could get back in, and he could. > He drove to the customer, hung the radio, fired it up and could not get back > in. I went in from my console, and could see the radio on the network. I > made the final adjustments and told him to try to go to a web page. He > could not (this is the same computer that he set the radio up with > earlier). He plugged the radio into the customer's computer and they could > get online. He plugged it back into his, and he could not. He took the > same computer to the next home, and every thing worked fine. What could be > happening here? We're having this issue with every laptop we own, on every > browser (IE, Firefox, etc). These are Dell Vostro 1510 laptops with Windows > Vista Home. They have worked flawlessly until now. Funny that all three > would develop the same problem at the same time. The timing of this issue > seems to coincide with the wave of the Microsoft updates & patches of the > past two weeks. Today, I had my site survey radio and a radio that was > programmed. I was switching back and forth between the two, probably 10-12 > times during a hour and a half period. I'd like the screen sit and refresh > for 15 or so minutes at a time, no problem. I then when out, with the same > radios and same laptop, to do a site survey and everything broke again. I > fired up the site survey radio. The page refreshed about 5 to 7 times then > that was it. I was unable to connect with the radio again, regardless of > what I did with one exception. When the default plug is in the radio, there > never seems to be an issue (except you can't do the survey with it in > there). > > Is anyone else experiencing this sort of thing, or are we just special? > > We're wondering if it's a temperature thing on the laptops. It seems that > when we can get in and do anything we want, it's in the warmth of a house or > car. When we take the laptop out in sub 30 degree temps, it triggers this > behavior. Could just be a coincidence . . . > > Kind Regards, > David Hannum > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless A
[WISPA] Motorola Canopy SM Setup Issues
For about the past two weeks, we've been having problems setting up or Canopy 900 MHz SM units. It's really odd. For example, today I went out to do site surveys. When I connected to my survey radio and it seemed fine at first. I have the page set to refresh every three seconds for doing site surveys. After about 5-7 page refreshes, I cannot load the page any more. The network icon on my system tray, goes from "local only" to a warning indicator and "limited connectivity" status. This "limited connectivity" status is the problem we've been having where we can't get back into the radios after a change has been made. Another example is: An installer has configured a radio, and put in an IP address of, 192.168.5.1. When he reboots the radio, before he could get back in (provided he left the Management VID pass through enabled) he could simply go to the IP 192.168.5.1 with his web browser, and the interface would come back up. Lately, he's been having an issue where (and I've experienced it too), after he reboots, he cannot get back into the radio. He might try and try, but only when he puts the default plug in can he get back in. Then, if he does a reset to factory defaults, he can get in. But if he changes even one little thing in the radio (say, frequency from all to a specific channel) and reboots, he's locked out of the radio again. We've had cases where if we drive down the road a few miles, and stop the vehicle, and plug that same radio that we could not get back into earlier, into our computer, we can get in again. Then, if we go to the customers to install it, we cannot get back in again. What might be causing this issue. We had an install Friday where the installer configured the radio at home, rebooted it several time to make sure he could get back in, and he could. He drove to the customer, hung the radio, fired it up and could not get back in. I went in from my console, and could see the radio on the network. I made the final adjustments and told him to try to go to a web page. He could not (this is the same computer that he set the radio up with earlier). He plugged the radio into the customer's computer and they could get online. He plugged it back into his, and he could not. He took the same computer to the next home, and every thing worked fine. What could be happening here? We're having this issue with every laptop we own, on every browser (IE, Firefox, etc). These are Dell Vostro 1510 laptops with Windows Vista Home. They have worked flawlessly until now. Funny that all three would develop the same problem at the same time. The timing of this issue seems to coincide with the wave of the Microsoft updates & patches of the past two weeks. Today, I had my site survey radio and a radio that was programmed. I was switching back and forth between the two, probably 10-12 times during a hour and a half period. I'd like the screen sit and refresh for 15 or so minutes at a time, no problem. I then when out, with the same radios and same laptop, to do a site survey and everything broke again. I fired up the site survey radio. The page refreshed about 5 to 7 times then that was it. I was unable to connect with the radio again, regardless of what I did with one exception. When the default plug is in the radio, there never seems to be an issue (except you can't do the survey with it in there). Is anyone else experiencing this sort of thing, or are we just special? We're wondering if it's a temperature thing on the laptops. It seems that when we can get in and do anything we want, it's in the warmth of a house or car. When we take the laptop out in sub 30 degree temps, it triggers this behavior. Could just be a coincidence . . . Kind Regards, David Hannum WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Thanks for all the input. It is greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: RickG > Date: January 31, 2010 4:02:20 PM CST > To: lakel...@gbcx.net, WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > Reply-To: WISPA General List > > And the lawyer write and/or review the agreement! > -RickG > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:38 PM, wrote: > >> I think you forgot the most expensive part. Insurance >> >> -B- >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Glenn Kelley >> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:28:18 >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> Most towns will allow this - however they may charge you a few fees. >> >> 1. Franchise Fee: This can be tricky. Some locales will request >> to know >> the number of clients going through the link and then charge you a >> flat fee >> per client. If you take a look at your catv bill (and others) you >> may >> notice a franchise fee. While this is a general overview - it kinda >> explains it. >> 2. Permit Fee: self explanatory >> 3. Interconnect / Cross Over Fees >> >> Overall most of the time these are not expensive - what might be is >> the >> interconnect / cross over fees the facility may charge - but of >> course >> chances are if your going to the roof or to a pole - you will have >> those >> fees. >> >> If you contemplate fiber (which imho is a great choice due to the >> yield of >> bandwidth ) there are two camps of thought. >> >> A. Get just what you need today >> B. Plan for tomorrow... >> >> Either way its best to use an outdoor construction cable as well as >> one >> that is built to be stranded between buildings and/or poles: loose >> tube >> construction perhaps might be best for the application - just make >> sure you >> grab the gel-filled vs empty or dry-block if you plan for this long >> term. >> If this is planned to be long term use and is a primary back haul I >> suggest >> doing it right the first time. >> >> Questions - feel free to ask on the list - or off :-) >> >> >> >> _ >> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com >> Email: gl...@hostmedic.com >> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. >> >> On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: >> >>> Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) >>> >>> John >>> >>> Jeremie Chism wrote: I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at that range. Sent from my iPhone >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
Some of the HAMS are like that. Very few though. Most are appliance operators now. Of course, then you find the ones that will set up a link like that, putting out a spur right on the input of the local public safety repeater. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Robert West" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for > the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high > dollar > crapola. > > Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using > parts > from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old > Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. > > No reason why a MT 433 board can't run reliably for years. It mostly has > to > do with the installation. Some high price gear will forgive stupid > installation but done right, the cheaper equipment will perform just as > well > and probably better. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jayson Baker > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:19 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > I'll second that. Or is it 3 now? We have MT links that have been in > places for years running dual-nstreme and get 70Mbps out of them all day, > everyday. > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> This guy. >> >> Out of every backhaul in the network the most reliable has been the >> rb333 with engenius cards followed by an rb532 (yes 532 the piece of >> junk). Tied for third are the smaller 411/r52 links (only a year on >> one and a few weeks on the other, but so far 100%). >> >> This includes Ceragon/Radwin links and Redline. >> >> On 1/30/10, Gino Villarini wrote: >> > Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone >> > feed >> > to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >> > >> > Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed >> > DS3 >> > Link! >> > >> > Gino A. Villarini >> > g...@aeronetpr.com >> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> > 787.273.4143 >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> > >> > Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > Begin forwarded message: >> > >> >> From: "Chuck Hogg" >> >> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> >> >> > >> >> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >> >> able >> >> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >> >> you >> >> for free if you wish. >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >> >> >> >> WISPA Members get free assembly. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Chuck Hogg >> >> Shelby Broadband >> >> 502-722-9292 >> >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of Robert West >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >> >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> >> >> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >> >> such >> >> a >> >> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. >> >> >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> >> On >> >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >> >> To: WISPA General List >> >> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> >> >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >> >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> >> that range. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> - >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> --- >> >> - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >>
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
Just not enough Ham operators on this list. The Hams would be pushing for the cheapest way of doing links instead of all the licensed and high dollar crapola. Some Hams could figure out how to run 300mb over a 20 mile link using parts from 8 track tape players and a jar of pickle juice, stuffed into an old Tupperware container and have it run 24 hours a day for 6 years. No reason why a MT 433 board can't run reliably for years. It mostly has to do with the installation. Some high price gear will forgive stupid installation but done right, the cheaper equipment will perform just as well and probably better. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I'll second that. Or is it 3 now? We have MT links that have been in places for years running dual-nstreme and get 70Mbps out of them all day, everyday. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > This guy. > > Out of every backhaul in the network the most reliable has been the > rb333 with engenius cards followed by an rb532 (yes 532 the piece of > junk). Tied for third are the smaller 411/r52 links (only a year on > one and a few weeks on the other, but so far 100%). > > This includes Ceragon/Radwin links and Redline. > > On 1/30/10, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed > > to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti > > > > Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 > > Link! > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > > > Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: "Chuck Hogg" > >> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >> > > > >> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be > >> able > >> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for > >> you > >> for free if you wish. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn > >> > >> WISPA Members get free assembly. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Chuck Hogg > >> Shelby Broadband > >> 502-722-9292 > >> ch...@shelbybb.com > >> http://www.shelbybb.com > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Robert West > >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >> > >> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at > >> such > >> a > >> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. > >> > >> Bob- > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >> > >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > >> that range. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> --- > >> - > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> --- > >> - > >> > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> - > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> --- > >> - > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> --- > >> > >>
Re: [WISPA] test
That would be SOS in morse. So there! That's one I actually knew I had a strange childhood. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] test ha ha heres a test ... _ _ _ ... wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real fast ;-) On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > even > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Same here. High price doesn't denote high quality. Besides, high price tag items can blow up the same as lower priced ones. MT and UBNT work just fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Morris Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed properly. I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't really necessary. Yikes right back at ya. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 Link! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Chuck Hogg" > Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > Reply-To: WISPA General List > > We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be > able > to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for > you > for free if you wish. > > http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn > > WISPA Members get free assembly. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at > such > a > short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > that range. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > --- > - > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > --- > - > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
And the lawyer write and/or review the agreement! -RickG On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:38 PM, wrote: > I think you forgot the most expensive part. Insurance > > -B- > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Glenn Kelley > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:28:18 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > Most towns will allow this - however they may charge you a few fees. > > 1. Franchise Fee: This can be tricky. Some locales will request to know > the number of clients going through the link and then charge you a flat fee > per client. If you take a look at your catv bill (and others) you may > notice a franchise fee. While this is a general overview - it kinda > explains it. > 2. Permit Fee: self explanatory > 3. Interconnect / Cross Over Fees > > Overall most of the time these are not expensive - what might be is the > interconnect / cross over fees the facility may charge - but of course > chances are if your going to the roof or to a pole - you will have those > fees. > > If you contemplate fiber (which imho is a great choice due to the yield of > bandwidth ) there are two camps of thought. > > A. Get just what you need today > B. Plan for tomorrow... > > Either way its best to use an outdoor construction cable as well as one > that is built to be stranded between buildings and/or poles: loose tube > construction perhaps might be best for the application - just make sure you > grab the gel-filled vs empty or dry-block if you plan for this long term. > If this is planned to be long term use and is a primary back haul I suggest > doing it right the first time. > > Questions - feel free to ask on the list - or off :-) > > > > _ > Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com > Email: gl...@hostmedic.com > Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: > > > Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) > > > > John > > > > Jeremie Chism wrote: > >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > >> that range. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
I think you forgot the most expensive part. Insurance -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Glenn Kelley Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:28:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Most towns will allow this - however they may charge you a few fees. 1. Franchise Fee: This can be tricky. Some locales will request to know the number of clients going through the link and then charge you a flat fee per client. If you take a look at your catv bill (and others) you may notice a franchise fee. While this is a general overview - it kinda explains it. 2. Permit Fee: self explanatory 3. Interconnect / Cross Over Fees Overall most of the time these are not expensive - what might be is the interconnect / cross over fees the facility may charge - but of course chances are if your going to the roof or to a pole - you will have those fees. If you contemplate fiber (which imho is a great choice due to the yield of bandwidth ) there are two camps of thought. A. Get just what you need today B. Plan for tomorrow... Either way its best to use an outdoor construction cable as well as one that is built to be stranded between buildings and/or poles: loose tube construction perhaps might be best for the application - just make sure you grab the gel-filled vs empty or dry-block if you plan for this long term. If this is planned to be long term use and is a primary back haul I suggest doing it right the first time. Questions - feel free to ask on the list - or off :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: > Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) > > John > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> that range. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
Most towns will allow this - however they may charge you a few fees. 1. Franchise Fee: This can be tricky. Some locales will request to know the number of clients going through the link and then charge you a flat fee per client. If you take a look at your catv bill (and others) you may notice a franchise fee. While this is a general overview - it kinda explains it. 2. Permit Fee: self explanatory 3. Interconnect / Cross Over Fees Overall most of the time these are not expensive - what might be is the interconnect / cross over fees the facility may charge - but of course chances are if your going to the roof or to a pole - you will have those fees. If you contemplate fiber (which imho is a great choice due to the yield of bandwidth ) there are two camps of thought. A. Get just what you need today B. Plan for tomorrow... Either way its best to use an outdoor construction cable as well as one that is built to be stranded between buildings and/or poles: loose tube construction perhaps might be best for the application - just make sure you grab the gel-filled vs empty or dry-block if you plan for this long term. If this is planned to be long term use and is a primary back haul I suggest doing it right the first time. Questions - feel free to ask on the list - or off :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: > Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) > > John > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> that range. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
I could not agree more! _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > No critical link should ever be standalone whether using expensive equipment > or using lower cost equipment. Always a good idea to put a second redundant > link in running something like RSTP or OSPF. > > > Gino Villarini wrote: >> >> Whatever rocks your world! >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> 787.273.4143 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of George Morris >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:54 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. >> >> The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed >> properly. >> >> I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on >> gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't >> really >> necessary. >> >> Yikes right back at ya. >> George >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed >> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >> >> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 >> Link! >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> 787.273.4143 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" >>> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List >>> >>> >> >> >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >>> able >>> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >>> you >>> for free if you wish. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >>> >>> WISPA Members get free assembly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >>> such >>> a >>> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >>> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >>> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >>> that range. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) John Jeremie Chism wrote: > I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > that range. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni upside down
Stock Cisco omnis, we were hanging them from light poles. John RickG wrote: > Which antenna did you use? -RickG > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:03 PM, John Thomas wrote: > > >> We have mounted omnis upside down because an omni pattern tends to >> radiate from the base of the antenna upward. By turning the antenna >> upside down, it becomes slight better at receiving and sending. That, >> and Cisco 1500's make it easy to do... >> >> John >> >> RickG wrote: >> >>> Thanks! >>> Is there any advantage for a WISP to do this? >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Eje Gustafsson >>> >> wrote: >> >>> Those are more than likely cell phone sites that have those big whip antennas going up and down (believe they are 800Mhz frequency range systems) My understanding it has one out of two reasons why they are built like that. Antenna diversion or increased base station density. Have one not too far from me that has a crown with a total of 6 omni's. >> 3 >> up and 3 down, mounted on a triangular crown. Those omnis are massive and >> my >> guess are they are at least 10-15 feet it's hard to tell because the >> access >> road is blocked and I never walked down to get close enough to compare >> to >> the tower leg joints. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] omni upside down While traveling around, I've noticed a few towers with omnis mounted >> upside >> down with a neighbor omni mounted right side up. Whats the purpose in >> this? >> -RickG >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Wait until you see the next release of firmware for the Ubiquiti MIMO equipment. Built-in spectrum analyzer, 1x better than Mikrotik, and almost as good as our $30k HP analyzer. Runs on the unit itself, while it's installed, in place, connected to the antenna. Can even run while the radio is in use and connected, but at a slower rate. It's sweet. I can't wait. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > MT is not a replacement for an APEX, since the value of the APEX is > LICENSED > spectrum. > > But, I share Chuck's praise for MT. WISPs have been running reliable > backbones on unlicenced spectrum and MT successfully for years. > The new MT hardware and Firmwares are really nice and plenty reliable. For > any link 50mbps or less, I'd select an Unlicensed solution without > hesitation. > Specifically, MT w/ WDS and NStreme will do 30mbps HDX on a 20Mhz channel > easilly. As well, if you use the latest N class mPCI, you can set it up > with > a Dual Pol panel. > I personally do not like Mimo configs much, but I like using N cards for > manual on-the-fly polarity change/selection. > > I prefer the MT over the Ubiquiti, because the MT can do channel scans now, > and thats important to be able to quickly identify free channels if > Interference is ever received. > But I really like the Ubiquiti antennas, that make DP inexpensive. > > I personally prefer Tlink-45s, which are a great radio, because they are a > ready to go solution. But off-promo MT can save you a few dollars. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chuck Hogg" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > > > We do as well. One of our MT links has more stability and reliability > > than a neighboring Trango Apex link. > > > > Regards, > > Chuck > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" > > wrote: > > > >> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone > >> feed > >> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti > >> > >> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed > >> DS3 > >> Link! > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> g...@aeronetpr.com > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> 787.273.4143 > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off > >> list. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" > >>> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >>> > >> > >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be > >>> able > >>> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for > >>> you > >>> for free if you wish. > >>> > >>> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn > >>> > >>> WISPA Members get free assembly. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Chuck Hogg > >>> Shelby Broadband > >>> 502-722-9292 > >>> ch...@shelbybb.com > >>> http://www.shelbybb.com > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Robert West > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >>> > >>> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at > >>> such > >>> a > >>> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. > >>> > >>> Bob- > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >>> > >>> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > >>> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to > >>> get > >>> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > >>> that range. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> - > >>> > >>> > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> --- > >>> - > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> -
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
You don’t say what the distance is, But if you have the height to clear the road you could use a steel cable to support a fibre? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
MT is not a replacement for an APEX, since the value of the APEX is LICENSED spectrum. But, I share Chuck's praise for MT. WISPs have been running reliable backbones on unlicenced spectrum and MT successfully for years. The new MT hardware and Firmwares are really nice and plenty reliable. For any link 50mbps or less, I'd select an Unlicensed solution without hesitation. Specifically, MT w/ WDS and NStreme will do 30mbps HDX on a 20Mhz channel easilly. As well, if you use the latest N class mPCI, you can set it up with a Dual Pol panel. I personally do not like Mimo configs much, but I like using N cards for manual on-the-fly polarity change/selection. I prefer the MT over the Ubiquiti, because the MT can do channel scans now, and thats important to be able to quickly identify free channels if Interference is ever received. But I really like the Ubiquiti antennas, that make DP inexpensive. I personally prefer Tlink-45s, which are a great radio, because they are a ready to go solution. But off-promo MT can save you a few dollars. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > We do as well. One of our MT links has more stability and reliability > than a neighboring Trango Apex link. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" > wrote: > >> Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone >> feed >> to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti >> >> Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed >> DS3 >> Link! >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> 787.273.4143 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off >> list. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Chuck Hogg" >>> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List >>> >> >>> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >>> able >>> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >>> you >>> for free if you wish. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >>> >>> WISPA Members get free assembly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >>> such >>> a >>> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >>> >>> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >>> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to >>> get >>> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >>> that range. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> - >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Su
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
To get started I would agree that the M-series can deliver 45 megs across the street. A couple of Nano5M's would deliver bandwidth but then the pps comes into play, so a Tik box to quiet things down a bit would be good. -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:15:49 -0500 >The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at such a >short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. > >Bob- > > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > >I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >that range. > >Sent from my iPhone > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
True. All our links are redundant and have multiple diverse paths. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > No critical link should ever be standalone whether using expensive > equipment or using lower cost equipment. Always a good idea to put a second > redundant link in running something like RSTP or OSPF. > > > Gino Villarini wrote: > > Whatever rocks your world! > > Gino A. villarini...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] On > Behalf Of George Morris > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:54 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. > > The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed > properly. > > I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on > gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't > really > necessary. > > Yikes right back at ya. > George > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed > to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti > > Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 > Link! > > Gino A. villarini...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: "Chuck Hogg" > Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > Reply-To: WISPA General List > > We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be > able > to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for > you > for free if you wish. > http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn > > WISPA Members get free assembly. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292ch...@shelbybb.comhttp://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] > On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at > such > a > short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] > On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > that range. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > --- > - > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > --- > - > > WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] test
Paper marked You passed Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
V Phil On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > ha ha > > > heres a test > > ... _ _ _ ... > > wonder how many folks are long time users and know that one real > fast ;-) > > > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Okay, I know it's a test but I'm not very good with tests. I didn't > > even > > know there was going to be a test.. This sucks. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:31 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] test > > > > > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > > > g...@aeronetpr.com > > > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > > > 787.273.4143 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
We do as well. One of our MT links has more stability and reliability than a neighboring Trango Apex link. Regards, Chuck On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:38 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone > feed > to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti > > Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed > DS3 > Link! > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul > > Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off > list. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Chuck Hogg" >> Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> > >> We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be >> able >> to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for >> you >> for free if you wish. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn >> >> WISPA Members get free assembly. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Robert West >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at >> such >> a >> short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to >> get >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> that range. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> --- >> - >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> - >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > --- > - > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
No critical link should ever be standalone whether using expensive equipment or using lower cost equipment. Always a good idea to put a second redundant link in running something like RSTP or OSPF. Gino Villarini wrote: Whatever rocks your world! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Morris Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Actually, we do Gino and have never had a problem. The latest generation of MT gear is pretty near bulletproof if deployed properly. I suspect there are quite a few people here that run their businesses on gear that you would turn you nose up at, so your condescension isn't really necessary. Yikes right back at ya. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Not to sound like a jerk, but who would trust they're main backbone feed to a Mikrotik or Ubiquiti Yikes! Please get something reliable like a Bridgewave or a Licensed DS3 Link! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look and contact you off list. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "Chuck Hogg" Date: January 30, 2010 9:20:01 PM CST To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Reply-To: WISPA General List We are a vendor member and a WISP. On a short range, you should be able to use this MT kit just fine. We will support and configure it for you for free if you wish. http://tinyurl.com/ydzrgfn WISPA Members get free assembly. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul The UBNT Rocket dish but at such short range, overkill. Really, at such a short hop even a bullet and a grid or the AirGrid would work it fine. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at that range. Sent from my iPhone --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
