Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...

2010-02-19 Thread Jason Bailey
ps ,wrong email! still good reading!

--- On Sat, 2/20/10, Jason Bailey  wrote:


From: Jason Bailey 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 12:04 AM


just one of the many emails i read daily,read it all. goin to bed

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Jeremie Chism  wrote:


From: Jeremie Chism 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 10:57 PM


Excellent point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:36 PM, "Tom DeReggi"   
wrote:

> I personally think we need to be taking the same approach as the  
> Telco
>
>
> " what do you mean there is a problem, all the broadband anyone  
> needs is
> there, tthe customer just needs to pick up the phone and call".
>
> WISPs are here and can solve the problem.
>
> What we need is education programs to make consumers aware of WISP  
> providers
> and their capabilty.
>
> And challenge cosumers to point out applications that they need  
> 100mbps for
> that WISPs speeds cant solve.
>
> We need to point out passing out Free money to large companies isn't  
> going
> to fix the problem.
> But helping Small providers to continue delivering Wireless  
> solutions will.
>
> I personally think the FEDs should loan guarantee every local WISP's
> request.
> Wireless has such a short ROI, there really isn't that much risk in
> guaranteeing a loan.
>
> The entire US's broadband problem could be solved simply by Federal  
> Loan
> guarantees for SMALL loans to Local providers.
> And it wouldn't cost the Tax payers a dollar.
>
> Consumers are ready to pay the bill, as soon as they get rid of the  
> Pipe
> dream for something they dont really need (fiber and 100mbps to the  
> home).
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MDK" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:37 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
>
>
>> I note with some interest the note published about how these lobbying
>> groups
>> want the FCC to provide broadband at very high speed via policy.
>> There's
>> a nice menu of dreams in the article referenced...    There's two  
>> kinds of
>> people in the world..  Dreamers and doers.     And some of us are a  
>> little
>> or a lot of both.    You have to dream it before you can do it, or  
>> else
>> you
>> are just implementing someone else's "dream", which never works all  
>> that
>> well.    But, to propose dreams to people who can neither do, nor  
>> know how
>> to do, but possess too much power already, asking them to wield  
>> more...
>> ARRGH!   Don't get me started on the vapid stupidity of it all.
>>
>> I note with interest that there are "magic bullet" prescriptions,  
>> such as
>> tearing down the "duopoly", etc, etc.   The proponents of these  
>> often see
>> specific items as the "key".   Yet, in real life, there isn't a  
>> single
>> key,
>> and the answers are a lot more complex than the dreamers like to  
>> write.
>> So, in that realm of thought, I'd like to make my own list...   Two  
>> lists,
>> actually...  First, the things that obstruct, and then, the things  
>> that
>> could be done to help.     I'm writing this as I see it, not  
>> intending to
>> speak for all.    You may wish to make your own list...  But if  
>> WISPA is a
>> lobbying organization, then we need a cohesive view of the things  
>> that
>> obstruct OUR growth and the things we generally need.
>>
>> First, the obstructions I find...
>>
>> 1.  Lack of capital.    I have had only a tiny amount of credit for  
>> my
>> entire time in business, and I'm not getting more anytime soon.    
>> Besides,
>> DEBT isn't going to help.   Whether you're buying growth out of  
>> profits...
>> or paying debt out of profits...  Debt still has to be paid, even  
>> when the
>> cash flow has hickups, and I had a real big one about 18 months ago.
>>
>> 2.  Public property restrictions.    The inability to use public
>> facilities - be it buildings, towers, land - is often a factor.     
>> The
>> minimum cost for a USFS site is based on the size of your market  
>> (not who
>> you reach, your potential), and it starts out at several times my  
>> only
>> paid
>> lease on private land.   Cities, counties, states, have entirely
>> inconsistent regulatory frameworks, and just locating who to reach is
>> often
>> a maze.   Often local politics throws up barriers, as you could be an
>> outsider to the process.
>>
>> 3.  Regulatory fiat:   Not just reporting mandates, but threatened
>> "neutrality", and other mandates present risks that make future  
>> investment
>> harder, as margins get slimmer and costs higher per customer.
>> Regulating
>> your tasks.   Like classifying making a network cable as a licensed
>> position, one that requires YEARS of outside of the industry  
>> experience,
>> and
>> then hiring someone with a very high price

Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...

2010-02-19 Thread Jason Bailey
just one of the many emails i read daily,read it all. goin to bed

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Jeremie Chism  wrote:


From: Jeremie Chism 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 10:57 PM


Excellent point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:36 PM, "Tom DeReggi"   
wrote:

> I personally think we need to be taking the same approach as the  
> Telco
>
>
> " what do you mean there is a problem, all the broadband anyone  
> needs is
> there, tthe customer just needs to pick up the phone and call".
>
> WISPs are here and can solve the problem.
>
> What we need is education programs to make consumers aware of WISP  
> providers
> and their capabilty.
>
> And challenge cosumers to point out applications that they need  
> 100mbps for
> that WISPs speeds cant solve.
>
> We need to point out passing out Free money to large companies isn't  
> going
> to fix the problem.
> But helping Small providers to continue delivering Wireless  
> solutions will.
>
> I personally think the FEDs should loan guarantee every local WISP's
> request.
> Wireless has such a short ROI, there really isn't that much risk in
> guaranteeing a loan.
>
> The entire US's broadband problem could be solved simply by Federal  
> Loan
> guarantees for SMALL loans to Local providers.
> And it wouldn't cost the Tax payers a dollar.
>
> Consumers are ready to pay the bill, as soon as they get rid of the  
> Pipe
> dream for something they dont really need (fiber and 100mbps to the  
> home).
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MDK" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:37 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
>
>
>> I note with some interest the note published about how these lobbying
>> groups
>> want the FCC to provide broadband at very high speed via policy.
>> There's
>> a nice menu of dreams in the article referenced...    There's two  
>> kinds of
>> people in the world..  Dreamers and doers.     And some of us are a  
>> little
>> or a lot of both.    You have to dream it before you can do it, or  
>> else
>> you
>> are just implementing someone else's "dream", which never works all  
>> that
>> well.    But, to propose dreams to people who can neither do, nor  
>> know how
>> to do, but possess too much power already, asking them to wield  
>> more...
>> ARRGH!   Don't get me started on the vapid stupidity of it all.
>>
>> I note with interest that there are "magic bullet" prescriptions,  
>> such as
>> tearing down the "duopoly", etc, etc.   The proponents of these  
>> often see
>> specific items as the "key".   Yet, in real life, there isn't a  
>> single
>> key,
>> and the answers are a lot more complex than the dreamers like to  
>> write.
>> So, in that realm of thought, I'd like to make my own list...   Two  
>> lists,
>> actually...  First, the things that obstruct, and then, the things  
>> that
>> could be done to help.     I'm writing this as I see it, not  
>> intending to
>> speak for all.    You may wish to make your own list...  But if  
>> WISPA is a
>> lobbying organization, then we need a cohesive view of the things  
>> that
>> obstruct OUR growth and the things we generally need.
>>
>> First, the obstructions I find...
>>
>> 1.  Lack of capital.    I have had only a tiny amount of credit for  
>> my
>> entire time in business, and I'm not getting more anytime soon.    
>> Besides,
>> DEBT isn't going to help.   Whether you're buying growth out of  
>> profits...
>> or paying debt out of profits...  Debt still has to be paid, even  
>> when the
>> cash flow has hickups, and I had a real big one about 18 months ago.
>>
>> 2.  Public property restrictions.    The inability to use public
>> facilities - be it buildings, towers, land - is often a factor.     
>> The
>> minimum cost for a USFS site is based on the size of your market  
>> (not who
>> you reach, your potential), and it starts out at several times my  
>> only
>> paid
>> lease on private land.   Cities, counties, states, have entirely
>> inconsistent regulatory frameworks, and just locating who to reach is
>> often
>> a maze.   Often local politics throws up barriers, as you could be an
>> outsider to the process.
>>
>> 3.  Regulatory fiat:   Not just reporting mandates, but threatened
>> "neutrality", and other mandates present risks that make future  
>> investment
>> harder, as margins get slimmer and costs higher per customer.
>> Regulating
>> your tasks.   Like classifying making a network cable as a licensed
>> position, one that requires YEARS of outside of the industry  
>> experience,
>> and
>> then hiring someone with a very high price tag, just to do utterly
>> simplistic things with no valid reason to be restricted.
>>
>> 4.  Public perceptions:    Often, I've seen the "only the phone and  
>> cable
>> co
>> are REAL broadband providers" meme repeated by even

Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...

2010-02-19 Thread Jeremie Chism
Excellent point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:36 PM, "Tom DeReggi"   
wrote:

> I personally think we need to be taking the same approach as the  
> Telco
>
>
> " what do you mean there is a problem, all the broadband anyone  
> needs is
> there, tthe customer just needs to pick up the phone and call".
>
> WISPs are here and can solve the problem.
>
> What we need is education programs to make consumers aware of WISP  
> providers
> and their capabilty.
>
> And challenge cosumers to point out applications that they need  
> 100mbps for
> that WISPs speeds cant solve.
>
> We need to point out passing out Free money to large companies isn't  
> going
> to fix the problem.
> But helping Small providers to continue delivering Wireless  
> solutions will.
>
> I personally think the FEDs should loan guarantee every local WISP's
> request.
> Wireless has such a short ROI, there really isn't that much risk in
> guaranteeing a loan.
>
> The entire US's broadband problem could be solved simply by Federal  
> Loan
> guarantees for SMALL loans to Local providers.
> And it wouldn't cost the Tax payers a dollar.
>
> Consumers are ready to pay the bill, as soon as they get rid of the  
> Pipe
> dream for something they dont really need (fiber and 100mbps to the  
> home).
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MDK" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:37 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...
>
>
>> I note with some interest the note published about how these lobbying
>> groups
>> want the FCC to provide broadband at very high speed via policy.
>> There's
>> a nice menu of dreams in the article referenced...There's two  
>> kinds of
>> people in the world..  Dreamers and doers. And some of us are a  
>> little
>> or a lot of both.You have to dream it before you can do it, or  
>> else
>> you
>> are just implementing someone else's "dream", which never works all  
>> that
>> well.But, to propose dreams to people who can neither do, nor  
>> know how
>> to do, but possess too much power already, asking them to wield  
>> more...
>> ARRGH!   Don't get me started on the vapid stupidity of it all.
>>
>> I note with interest that there are "magic bullet" prescriptions,  
>> such as
>> tearing down the "duopoly", etc, etc.   The proponents of these  
>> often see
>> specific items as the "key".   Yet, in real life, there isn't a  
>> single
>> key,
>> and the answers are a lot more complex than the dreamers like to  
>> write.
>> So, in that realm of thought, I'd like to make my own list...   Two  
>> lists,
>> actually...  First, the things that obstruct, and then, the things  
>> that
>> could be done to help. I'm writing this as I see it, not  
>> intending to
>> speak for all.You may wish to make your own list...  But if  
>> WISPA is a
>> lobbying organization, then we need a cohesive view of the things  
>> that
>> obstruct OUR growth and the things we generally need.
>>
>> First, the obstructions I find...
>>
>> 1.  Lack of capital.I have had only a tiny amount of credit for  
>> my
>> entire time in business, and I'm not getting more anytime soon.
>> Besides,
>> DEBT isn't going to help.   Whether you're buying growth out of  
>> profits...
>> or paying debt out of profits...  Debt still has to be paid, even  
>> when the
>> cash flow has hickups, and I had a real big one about 18 months ago.
>>
>> 2.  Public property restrictions.The inability to use public
>> facilities - be it buildings, towers, land - is often a factor. 
>> The
>> minimum cost for a USFS site is based on the size of your market  
>> (not who
>> you reach, your potential), and it starts out at several times my  
>> only
>> paid
>> lease on private land.   Cities, counties, states, have entirely
>> inconsistent regulatory frameworks, and just locating who to reach is
>> often
>> a maze.   Often local politics throws up barriers, as you could be an
>> outsider to the process.
>>
>> 3.  Regulatory fiat:   Not just reporting mandates, but threatened
>> "neutrality", and other mandates present risks that make future  
>> investment
>> harder, as margins get slimmer and costs higher per customer.
>> Regulating
>> your tasks.   Like classifying making a network cable as a licensed
>> position, one that requires YEARS of outside of the industry  
>> experience,
>> and
>> then hiring someone with a very high price tag, just to do utterly
>> simplistic things with no valid reason to be restricted.
>>
>> 4.  Public perceptions:Often, I've seen the "only the phone and  
>> cable
>> co
>> are REAL broadband providers" meme repeated by even my own friends  
>> who
>> know
>> what I do.
>>
>> 5.  Slow technological change - especially as it concerns regulatory
>> bodies.
>>
>> 6.  Spectrum unavailability:  Right now, I'm seeing so much noise  
>> in some
>> places that no frequency i

Re: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...

2010-02-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
I personally think we need to be taking the same approach as the Telco


" what do you mean there is a problem, all the broadband anyone needs is 
there, tthe customer just needs to pick up the phone and call".

WISPs are here and can solve the problem.

What we need is education programs to make consumers aware of WISP providers 
and their capabilty.

And challenge cosumers to point out applications that they need 100mbps for 
that WISPs speeds cant solve.

We need to point out passing out Free money to large companies isn't going 
to fix the problem.
But helping Small providers to continue delivering Wireless solutions will.

I personally think the FEDs should loan guarantee every local WISP's 
request.
Wireless has such a short ROI, there really isn't that much risk in 
guaranteeing a loan.

The entire US's broadband problem could be solved simply by Federal Loan 
guarantees for SMALL loans to Local providers.
And it wouldn't cost the Tax payers a dollar.

Consumers are ready to pay the bill, as soon as they get rid of the Pipe 
dream for something they dont really need (fiber and 100mbps to the home).

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "MDK" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: [WISPA] FCC creating policy...


>I note with some interest the note published about how these lobbying 
>groups
> want the FCC to provide broadband at very high speed via policy. 
> There's
> a nice menu of dreams in the article referenced...There's two kinds of
> people in the world..  Dreamers and doers. And some of us are a little
> or a lot of both.You have to dream it before you can do it, or else 
> you
> are just implementing someone else's "dream", which never works all that
> well.But, to propose dreams to people who can neither do, nor know how
> to do, but possess too much power already, asking them to wield more...
> ARRGH!   Don't get me started on the vapid stupidity of it all.
>
> I note with interest that there are "magic bullet" prescriptions, such as
> tearing down the "duopoly", etc, etc.   The proponents of these often see
> specific items as the "key".   Yet, in real life, there isn't a single 
> key,
> and the answers are a lot more complex than the dreamers like to write.
> So, in that realm of thought, I'd like to make my own list...   Two lists,
> actually...  First, the things that obstruct, and then, the things that
> could be done to help. I'm writing this as I see it, not intending to
> speak for all.You may wish to make your own list...  But if WISPA is a
> lobbying organization, then we need a cohesive view of the things that
> obstruct OUR growth and the things we generally need.
>
> First, the obstructions I find...
>
> 1.  Lack of capital.I have had only a tiny amount of credit for my
> entire time in business, and I'm not getting more anytime soon.   Besides,
> DEBT isn't going to help.   Whether you're buying growth out of profits...
> or paying debt out of profits...  Debt still has to be paid, even when the
> cash flow has hickups, and I had a real big one about 18 months ago.
>
> 2.  Public property restrictions.The inability to use public
> facilities - be it buildings, towers, land - is often a factor.The
> minimum cost for a USFS site is based on the size of your market (not who
> you reach, your potential), and it starts out at several times my only 
> paid
> lease on private land.   Cities, counties, states, have entirely
> inconsistent regulatory frameworks, and just locating who to reach is 
> often
> a maze.   Often local politics throws up barriers, as you could be an
> outsider to the process.
>
> 3.  Regulatory fiat:   Not just reporting mandates, but threatened
> "neutrality", and other mandates present risks that make future investment
> harder, as margins get slimmer and costs higher per customer. 
> Regulating
> your tasks.   Like classifying making a network cable as a licensed
> position, one that requires YEARS of outside of the industry experience, 
> and
> then hiring someone with a very high price tag, just to do utterly
> simplistic things with no valid reason to be restricted.
>
> 4.  Public perceptions:Often, I've seen the "only the phone and cable 
> co
> are REAL broadband providers" meme repeated by even my own friends who 
> know
> what I do.
>
> 5.  Slow technological change - especially as it concerns regulatory 
> bodies.
>
> 6.  Spectrum unavailability:  Right now, I'm seeing so much noise in some
> places that no frequency is useable.
>
> 7.  Spotty availability of hardware:   This seems to be related to 
> economic
> conditions, but it doesn't help, that's for sure.   Importing yourself 
> isn't
> THAT hard, but it's still not easy.
>
> 8.  The cost of doing business.   Everyone wants a chunk of your 
> backside...
> State, federal, county, local, workman's comp, unemployment, insurance, 
> and
> 

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool for 477 reporting data at the tract level

2010-02-19 Thread Cameron Crum
OK, so I got distracted by my business today and won't have this ready 
until Monday or Tuesday. However, it will do a lot. It will take an 
input file of csv format, and not only will it return the properly 
formatted file for the 477 form, but it will show you all your customers 
on a map with the census tracts overlaid so you can visually verify. 
I'll keep the list updated as to the progress.

Cameron

On 2/19/2010 1:15 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> I have this app done and am wrapping up the front end to allow anyone 
> to upload a csv file with a list of addresses that will be geocoded 
> and then referenced to a tract. Output will be a csv file so you can 
> do what you like with it. I should have it up on our site by the end 
> of the day and will keep you all posted.
>
> Cameron
>
> On 2/19/2010 10:46 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
>> Here is the list of state FIPS codes needed:
>> 01 Alabama
>> 02 Alaska
>> 04 Arizona
>> 05 Arkansas
>> 06 California
>> 08 Colorado
>> 09 Connecticut
>> 10 Delaware
>> 11 District of Columbia
>> 12 Florida
>> 13 Georgia
>> 15 Hawaii
>> 16 Idaho
>> 17 Illinois
>> 18 Indiana
>> 19 Iowa
>> 20 Kansas
>> 21 Kentucky
>> 22 Louisiana
>> 23 Maine
>> 24 Maryland
>> 25 Massachusetts
>> 26 Michigan
>> 27 Minnesota
>> 28 Mississippi
>> 29 Missouri
>> 30 Montana
>> 31 Nebraska
>> 32 Nevada
>> 33 New Hampshire
>> 34 New Jersey
>> 35 New Mexico
>> 36 New York
>> 37 North Carolina
>> 38 North Dakota
>> 39 Ohio
>> 40 Oklahoma
>> 41 Oregon
>> 42 Pennsylvania
>> 44 Rhode Island
>> 45 South Carolina
>> 46 South Dakota
>> 47 Tennessee
>> 48 Texas
>> 49 Utah
>> 50 Vermont
>> 51 Virginia
>> 53 Washington
>> 54 West Virginia
>> 55 Wisconsin
>> 56 Wyoming
>> 72 Puerto Rico
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org
>> [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org]*on Behalf Of *Scott Reed
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2010 11:14 AM
>> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] [WISPA] Possible way to create a
>> free tool for 477 reporting data at the tract level
>>
>> I have a tool that will take a comma separated file in and return
>> the file needed for Form477.  I do not have a web interface or
>> anything for it, yet.
>> The file must be:
>> ID,Latitude,Longitude,upload,download
>> where ID is any identifier you want, upload is the upload speed
>> per the FCC list and download is the download speed per the FCC list.
>> As long as I don't get overwhelmed, I can accept CSV files at
>> WISPAForm477[at]nwwnet.net and email the result back to you. 
>> This is not a quick process but for a couple of weeks I will do
>> what I can.  In the email you must tell me what state(s) to run
>> the data for.  It would be best to give me the census number of
>> the state(s), but I can find it if need be.
>>
>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>> Ok, not all, but a lot of what was being complained about.
>>> And I agree, an application that would have data ready to submit
>>> would be nice.
>>>
>>> Matt Liotta wrote:
 Guess it depends on what you mean by it all. What I would
 create would actually submit the data to the FCC in a format
 they accept. IMHO, it is not enough to have a customer database
 with the information the FCC wants. You need to be able to send
 the data they desire in a format they specify. All of this can
 be automated.

 -Matt

 On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Scott Reed wrote:

> The USC site the Brian found last night does it all.
> Submit a database, get back a database with your lat, lon,
> county fips and tract.
> Database can be .csv or MS Access, maybe more.
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>> You raise the money. I'll do the programming. WISPA can keep the 
>> money.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Mac Dearman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I would be glad to start a $$ pool to have someone develop a tool 
>>> for WISPA
>>> members to get the data we need for the form 477. On second 
>>> thoughts - - it
>>> would be better if we allowed everyone to use it (members and non 
>>> members)
>>> if we could just get them to report!
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
 -Original Message-
 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Rick Harnish
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:48 PM
 To:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com;memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA List';
 'Motorla List Beehive'; 'WISPA Board'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free 
 tool
 for 477 reporting data at the tract level

 WISPA will gladly

Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Brad Belton
Yah, yah, yahflog me, beat me...my mistake!  lol

"The Baltic Networks name and logo were inspired by the Baltic Sea region in
Eastern Europe."

I skimmed this and incorrectly read this as they were overseas!

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. 

Mike Goicoechea 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
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>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. 

Mike Goicoechea 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Brad Belton
Yep, that's it.  I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link
is probably the easiest source.

Thanks!  


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Gino Villarini
On the Mikrotik site, under the Made for Mikrotik Page, there are a
couple available

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:09 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount
Enclosure...

Hello,

I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for
the
RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think
someone
makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has
these?

Thanks!


Brad






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp

Search "mikrotik case"

You'll find three of them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the
> RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
> makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has these?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
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[WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...

2010-02-19 Thread Brad Belton
Hello,

I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the
RB493.  We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone
makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493.  Anyone remember who has these?

Thanks!


Brad





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