Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[D. Ryan Spott]

Take a look at 

I modified mine to save speedtests that my clients run so I can review them
at a later date. This helps me spot trends. I let my customers see the last
5 or so speedtests.

Some advice:
1. Make sure you save ALL of the speedtests your clients run. Then you can
look at the history of speedtests when the customer emails you to whine
about "slow speeds" and sends you a screenshot of the speedtest... the
one they cherry picked to show slow speeds... This generally happens around
billing time.
2. Make sure that it is only available on your network. I had to put mine
behind a php ACL to prevent dialup users from telling me that my wireless
was no faster than their dialup according to my speedtest that they ran
from their dialup connection!! *head-desk*.
3. (this makes #2 even more important.. I cannot tell you how many customers
would call complaining about 'slow speeds'... and after investigating I
found they were using an AOL proxy or a proxy running some filtering
software... or performing the speedtest through their corp VPN connection!

ryan

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:

> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
> on my network?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Robert West]

Does it run on Netscape?  I keep trying but my Netscape just won't work with 
it...  So sad  :(



- Original Message - 
From: "Mike" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests


Josh:  I am shamelessly running IE8.  Noscript appears to be an add-on for
Firefox. Do you run Firefox?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

Tools -> Addons

Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain.

Run firefox.exe -profilemanager
New profile
Run speed test

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts."
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike  wrote:
> Where do I check for that?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I'm betting you have NoScript on.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG? When I run it, this happens on
> this
>> netbook.
>>
>>
>> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH
prettier
>> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
>> three ways:
>> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
>> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
>> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
>> Starting Speed Test...
>> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
>> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
>> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
>> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
>> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
>> Speed Test Finished.
>> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
>> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
>> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
>> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>>
>> Friendly Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> Doesn't appear it's a demo. Is there any configuration to it? Look
>> at the URL...
>>
>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
>> wrote:
>>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
 Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
 what to charge! Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
 second :) Not a very accurate tool!

 * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bret Clark
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

 I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
 a year since I last tried it.

 I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

 On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:

> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>
 competitors

> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>
>>> From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>>
 offsite

>>>
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>>
 set up

>> on my network?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


 

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Robert West]

I got to the end of the internet level one a few months ago.  Been trying to 
figure out level two but I need some cheat codes.

Cool thing about internet level 2, Google has a black background..

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: "Larry A Weidig" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests


Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
second :)  Not a very accurate tool!

* Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bret Clark
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
a year since I last tried it.

I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
competitors
> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>>>  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
offsite
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
set up
>> on my network?
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers

[Robert West]

Lets just jump to 36G and scoop them all.  See how the like those apples!


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From: "Drew Lentz" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers


I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan?
Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g!

Link pulled from another mailing list:
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Robert West]

I just use speedtest.net.   I use the same server so that gives me a pretty 
good idea of ping and speed.

Bob-


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests


> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set 
> up
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Robert West]

Very good.  I liked that one.


- Original Message - 
From: "Blake Bowers" 
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?


> Don't you mean PULLET?
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert West" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
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>> Sure!  I get mine over at TSC.  Buy them by the pallet.
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Bret Clark]

I see what you mean, I've always used FF which works fine and shows the 
graphics, but IE seems to only show text. Our customers have never 
really said anything about that, but I guess they wouldn't know any 
better if they are only using one type of browser. I know when I install 
it I made some changes to take the less professional wording out about 
SVN and such.

Bret

On 05/13/2010 09:44 PM, Mike wrote:
> Josh:  I am shamelessly running IE8.  Noscript appears to be an add-on for
> Firefox. Do you run Firefox?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:35 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Tools ->  Addons
>
> Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain.
>
> Run firefox.exe -profilemanager
> New profile
> Run speed test
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike  wrote:
>
>> Where do I check for that?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> I'm betting you have NoScript on.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>>  
>>> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on
>>>
>> this
>>  
>>> netbook.
>>>
>>>
>>> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH
>>>
> prettier
>
>>> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
>>> three ways:
>>> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
>>> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
>>> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
>>> Starting Speed Test...
>>> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
>>> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
>>> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
>>> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
>>> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
>>> Speed Test Finished.
>>> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
>>> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
>>> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
>>> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>>>
>>> Friendly Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>   -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
>>> at the URL...
>>>
>>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.”
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
 what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
 http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php

 On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
  
>Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>
>
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>
>>  
> competitors
>
>
>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>

Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

That would be your problem.  I use Firefox 99% of the time, Chrome if
I want a different browser (Firefox forgets that cache is temporary).

I have the same problem with IE8.  I don't think shamelessly is the
word I would choose, though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Mike  wrote:
> Josh:  I am shamelessly running IE8.  Noscript appears to be an add-on for
> Firefox. Do you run Firefox?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:35 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Tools -> Addons
>
> Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain.
>
> Run firefox.exe -profilemanager
> New profile
> Run speed test
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike  wrote:
>> Where do I check for that?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> I'm betting you have NoScript on.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>>> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on
>> this
>>> netbook.
>>>
>>>
>>> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH
> prettier
>>> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
>>> three ways:
>>> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
>>> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
>>> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
>>> Starting Speed Test...
>>> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
>>> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
>>> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
>>> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
>>> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
>>> Speed Test Finished.
>>> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
>>> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
>>> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
>>> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>>>
>>> Friendly Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>  -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
>>> at the URL...
>>>
>>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.”
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
>>> wrote:
 Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
 what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
 http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php

 On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>
> competitors
>
>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
>>
>>>

Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Mike]

Josh:  I am shamelessly running IE8.  Noscript appears to be an add-on for
Firefox. Do you run Firefox? 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

Tools -> Addons

Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain.

Run firefox.exe -profilemanager
New profile
Run speed test

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike  wrote:
> Where do I check for that?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I'm betting you have NoScript on.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on
> this
>> netbook.
>>
>>
>> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH
prettier
>> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
>> three ways:
>> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
>> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
>> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
>> Starting Speed Test...
>> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
>> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
>> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
>> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
>> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
>> Speed Test Finished.
>> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
>> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
>> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
>> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>>
>> Friendly Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
>> at the URL...
>>
>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
>> wrote:
>>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
 what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
 second :)  Not a very accurate tool!

 * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bret Clark
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

 I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
 a year since I last tried it.

 I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

 On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:

> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>
 competitors

> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>
>>>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>>
 offsite

>>>
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>>
 set up

>> on my network?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


 

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Tools -> Addons

Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain.

Run firefox.exe -profilemanager
New profile
Run speed test

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike  wrote:
> Where do I check for that?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I'm betting you have NoScript on.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on
> this
>> netbook.
>>
>>
>> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH prettier
>> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
>> three ways:
>> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
>> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
>> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
>> Starting Speed Test...
>> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
>> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
>> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
>> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
>> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
>> Speed Test Finished.
>> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
>> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
>> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
>> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>>
>> Friendly Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
>> at the URL...
>>
>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
>> wrote:
>>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
 what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
 second :)  Not a very accurate tool!

 * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bret Clark
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

 I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
 a year since I last tried it.

 I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

 On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:

> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>
 competitors

> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>
>>>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>>
 offsite

>>>
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>>
 set up

>> on my network?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Mike]

Where do I check for that? 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

I'm betting you have NoScript on.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on
this
> netbook.
>
>
> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH prettier
> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
> three ways:
> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
> Starting Speed Test...
> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
> Speed Test Finished.
> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>
> Friendly Regards,
>
> Mike
>  -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
> at the URL...
>
> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
> wrote:
>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>>       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
>>> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
>>> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>>>
>>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bret Clark
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
>>> a year since I last tried it.
>>>
>>> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>>>
 We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
 are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical

>>> competitors
>>>
 get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
 advert for us.

 Regards
 Michael Baird


>>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>
>>> offsite
>>>
>>
>>
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>
>>> set up
>>>
> on my network?
>
>
>
>
>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

I'm betting you have NoScript on.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
> But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on this
> netbook.
>
>
> No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH prettier
> if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
> three ways:
> 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
> 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here.
> 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
> Starting Speed Test...
> Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
> Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
> Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
> Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
> Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
> Speed Test Finished.
> Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
> ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
> Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s
> Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s
>
> Friendly Regards,
>
> Mike
>  -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
> at the URL...
>
> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
> wrote:
>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>>       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
>>> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
>>> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>>>
>>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bret Clark
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
>>> a year since I last tried it.
>>>
>>> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>>>
 We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
 are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical

>>> competitors
>>>
 get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
 advert for us.

 Regards
 Michael Baird


>>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>
>>> offsite
>>>
>>
>>
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>
>>> set up
>>>
> on my network?
>
>
>
>
>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Not sure what else I can do...

1. Installation
===

  Simply place the five ajaxometer.* files in your desired directory and point
  the user to ajaxometer.php

Does a speed test look normal to you?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Bret Clark  wrote:
> Well there certainly is something odd with that demo. There are some
> configurations to it that I seem to recall, it was pretty easy to set up.
> Just google ajaxometer to find a bunch that do work. I tested a bunch of
> these tools about a year ago and found this one to work best with our
> high speed customer who had 10+ mbps links from us.
>
> On 05/13/2010 09:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
>> at the URL...
>>
>> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark  wrote:
>>
>>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>>
        Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
 what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
 second :)  Not a very accurate tool!

 * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Bret Clark
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

 I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
 a year since I last tried it.

 I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

 On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:


> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>
>
 competitors


> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>
>
>>>      From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>>>
>>>
 offsite


>>>
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can
>>
>>
 set up


>> on my network?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Mike]

But it appears to want Firefox or SVG?  When I run it, this happens on this
netbook.


No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH prettier
if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of
three ways: 
1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here.
2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here. 
3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera.
Starting Speed Test...
Request Latency: ~114.2 ms
Test Download Size: 1.2 MB
Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB
Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s
Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s
Speed Test Finished.
Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet
( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds)
Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s 
Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
at the URL...

http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark 
wrote:
> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>
> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
>> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
>> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>>
>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bret Clark
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
>> a year since I last tried it.
>>
>> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>>
>> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>>
>>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>>
>> competitors
>>
>>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>>> advert for us.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>
>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>
>> offsite
>>
>
>
 speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can

>> set up
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Bret Clark]

Well there certainly is something odd with that demo. There are some 
configurations to it that I seem to recall, it was pretty easy to set up.
Just google ajaxometer to find a bunch that do work. I tested a bunch of 
these tools about a year ago and found this one to work best with our 
high speed customer who had 10+ mbps links from us.

On 05/13/2010 09:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
> at the URL...
>
> http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark  wrote:
>
>> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
>> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
>> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>>
>> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>  
>>>Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
>>> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
>>> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>>>
>>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bret Clark
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
>>> a year since I last tried it.
>>>
>>> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>>>
>>> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>>>
>>>
 We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
 are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical

  
>>> competitors
>>>
>>>
 get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
 advert for us.

 Regards
 Michael Baird


  
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Doesn't appear it's a demo.  Is there any configuration to it?  Look
at the URL...

http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark  wrote:
> Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows
> what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
> http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php
>
> On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>>       Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
>> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
>> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>>
>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bret Clark
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
>> a year since I last tried it.
>>
>> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>>
>> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>>
>>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>>
>> competitors
>>
>>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>>> advert for us.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>
>    From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
>
>> offsite
>>
>
>
 speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can

>> set up
>>
 on my network?





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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Bret Clark]

Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows 
what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running
http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php

On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>   Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>  
> competitors
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>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
>>  
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> offsite
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Mike]

Yes, but you need to work on making that a symmetrical connection; your
upload stinks!  :-)  Now that is funny; better save that graphic.

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
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Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
second :)  Not a very accurate tool!

* Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over 
a year since I last tried it.

I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
competitors
> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
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>>>  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
offsite
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set up
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Larry A Weidig]

Good point.

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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:15 PM
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Wouldn't you saturate your upload 3Mb/s before you could reach even 1Gb/s?

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Larry A Weidig  wrote:
>        Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
> competitors
>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
> offsite

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Philip Dorr]

Wouldn't you saturate your upload 3Mb/s before you could reach even 1Gb/s?

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Larry A Weidig  wrote:
>        Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
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>>
>> Regards
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>>
  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
> offsite

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Bret Clark]

yeah and speedtest is better...not.

On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote:
>   Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out
> what to charge!  Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a
> second :)  Not a very accurate tool!
>
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> Behalf Of Bret Clark
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical
>>  
> competitors
>
>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
>>  
From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
  
> offsite
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Mike Hammett]

Not everyone already has Java?



On 5/13/2010 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> As much as I love Java...I don't want my installer to spend 10 minutes
> installing/updating/rebooting for the JRE.
>
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> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
>> basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
>> --
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>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:23 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> Speed test mini is probably the best.
>>
>> http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.²
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers
>> wrote:
>>  
>>> > From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
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>>> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers

[Josh Luthman]

Collecting revenue from the usage on that tower maybe?

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, St. Louis Broadband
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> Yep, you build the customer base for them and then where are you?
>
> ~V~
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> I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan?
> Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g!
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers

[St. Louis Broadband]

Yep, you build the customer base for them and then where are you?

~V~

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Subject: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers

I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan?
Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g!

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Justin Wilson]

It¹s not get around the 30 day limit.  The mini is different than their
commercial product. It is not Java as well.  Is is Flash.

If you read the web-site it states:

This application is offered "as is" free of charge without any support - use
it at your own risk. We will introduce new features to it every few months
in required updates. As such you will have to download it again
periodically.


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From: "David E. Smith" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:54:13 -0500
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 17:47, Louis Arsenault  wrote:

> If running on a *nux box this may help.
>
> #!/bin/bash
> cd /speedtest/website/folder/
> wget http://files.speedtest.ookla.com/releases/mini.zip
>

Is this basically "let's get around the 30-day demo limit by reinstalling
every couple weeks"? That strikes me as (at best) horribly unethical. If you
use the software, pay for it; $400/year isn't all that expensive in the
grand scheme of things.

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[WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers

[Drew Lentz]

I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan?
Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g!

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

You're mixing up two products.

Speedtest Mini is free, however, the client updates every once in a
while.  You'll see it pop up after a few weeks/months asking for you
to do exactly what those commands do.

The VisualWare has a shareware version.

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:54 PM, David E. Smith  wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 17:47, Louis Arsenault  wrote:
>
>> If running on a *nux box this may help.
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>> cd /speedtest/website/folder/
>> wget http://files.speedtest.ookla.com/releases/mini.zip
>>
>
> Is this basically "let's get around the 30-day demo limit by reinstalling
> every couple weeks"? That strikes me as (at best) horribly unethical. If you
> use the software, pay for it; $400/year isn't all that expensive in the
> grand scheme of things.
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 17:47, Louis Arsenault  wrote:

> If running on a *nux box this may help.
>
> #!/bin/bash
> cd /speedtest/website/folder/
> wget http://files.speedtest.ookla.com/releases/mini.zip
>

Is this basically "let's get around the 30-day demo limit by reinstalling
every couple weeks"? That strikes me as (at best) horribly unethical. If you
use the software, pay for it; $400/year isn't all that expensive in the
grand scheme of things.

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Maybe things have changed but back when all we had were Java speed
tests no customers had it.  This would have been 3-5 years ago on XP.
I didn't even bother on 95/98/ME.

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff
 wrote:
> On 05/13/2010 06:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> As much as I love Java...I don't want my installer to spend 10 minutes
>> installing/updating/rebooting for the JRE.
>>
> you dont need to reboot and most folks have java already on systems.
> it's a small java applet. server runs java and you can buy it for your
> own uses.
>
> Leon
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>>    Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
>>> basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:23 -0400
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>>
>>> Speed test mini is probably the best.
>>>
>>> http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.²
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
 speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
 on my network?


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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Louis Arsenault]

If running on a *nux box this may help.

#!/bin/bash
cd /speedtest/website/folder/
wget http://files.speedtest.ookla.com/releases/mini.zip
unzip -o mini.zip
rm -f mini.zip
mv -f index-php.html index.php

Then set a cronjob to run that every 2 weeks or so.

-Louis


On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

>Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
> basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net/blog
> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:23 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Speed test mini is probably the best.
>
> http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers 
> wrote:
> > >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
> offsite
> > speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set
> up
> > on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Leon D. Zetekoff]

On 05/13/2010 06:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> As much as I love Java...I don't want my installer to spend 10 minutes
> installing/updating/rebooting for the JRE.
>   
you dont need to reboot and most folks have java already on systems.
it's a small java applet. server runs java and you can buy it for your
own uses.

Leon
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>   
>>Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
>> basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:23 -0400
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>>
>> Speed test mini is probably the best.
>>
>> http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.²
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
>>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
>>> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

My customers have 2 and 4 meg down.  Mini seems to show 99% of that if
the connection is good.  Just now Mini shows 9651 kbps and 495 kbps
(limited by my queue trees in a RB).

http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php

It told me I have 51 Mbps.  Through a 2.4Ghz 10mhz link (MT and NS2).

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Bret Clark  wrote:
> I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over
> a year since I last tried it.
>
> I actually found ajaxometer to be much better.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/
>
> On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
>> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
>> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors
>> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
>> advert for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite

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>>> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Bret Clark]

I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over 
a year since I last tried it.

I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/

On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote:
> We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway
> are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors
> get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little
> advert for us.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>
>>>  From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
>>>
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
>> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway 
are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors 
get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little 
advert for us.

Regards
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> > From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
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> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

As much as I love Java...I don't want my installer to spend 10 minutes
installing/updating/rebooting for the JRE.

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>    Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
> basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
> --
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> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:20:23 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
>
> Speed test mini is probably the best.
>
> http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
>
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> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers 
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>> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
>> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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Just keep on top of the speed test mini.  It expires on a semi-regular
basis.  All you have to do is go back and re-download the newest one.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

Speed test mini is probably the best.

http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Carl Shivers 
wrote:
> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
> on my network?
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Does the visualware product require something on the client end?

I like mini because it just requires a browser with flash.  Very
common between online poker players and farmers looking up weather.

On 5/13/10, Leon D. Zetekoff  wrote:
> On 05/13/2010 05:16 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:
>> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
>> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set
>> up
>> on my network?
>>
> yes go to visualware.com - it's very accurate and uses sockets instead
> of http for more accuracy. they have versions that do voip testing as well.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Carl Shivers]

Can it be purchased??

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Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:21 PM
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We have been using:
http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
for a couple of years.  The only caveat is that you must "reinstall" it
every month as it expires otherwise.  The good thing is that is a VERY
simple process.  Seems to be the most accurate free test we could find.
I really like Visualware's products, but they seem too expensive.

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Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

>From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various
offsite
speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set
up
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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On 05/13/2010 05:16 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:
> >From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
> speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up
> on my network?
>   
yes go to visualware.com - it's very accurate and uses sockets instead
of http for more accuracy. they have versions that do voip testing as well.

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

[Josh Luthman]

Oh duh, looks like...

HTTP://speed.inxwireless.com

Can be changed or embedded.

On 5/13/10, Carl Shivers  wrote:
> Thanks. It seems like the consensus is speedtest.net mini.
>
> -Original Message-
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> We use the speedtest.net mini test. Host it right in our colo on our
> network. Works good for us.
> We tell customers to use it instead of any offsite speed test, As they have
> to many variables that we don't control.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> 
>
> From: "Carl Shivers" 
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> Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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Thanks. It seems like the consensus is speedtest.net mini.

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

We use the speedtest.net mini test. Host it right in our colo on our 
network. Works good for us.
We tell customers to use it instead of any offsite speed test, As they have 
to many variables that we don't control.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:17 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

>From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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We use the speedtest.net mini test. Host it right in our colo on our 
network. Works good for us.
We tell customers to use it instead of any offsite speed test, As they have 
to many variables that we don't control.

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From: "Carl Shivers" 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:17 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

>From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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We have been using:
http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php
for a couple of years.  The only caveat is that you must "reinstall" it
every month as it expires otherwise.  The good thing is that is a VERY
simple process.  Seems to be the most accurate free test we could find.
I really like Visualware's products, but they seem too expensive.

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Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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offsite
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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Speed test mini is probably the best.

http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php

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[WISPA] Customer Speed Tests

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>From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

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Don't you mean PULLET?


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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

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Sure!  I get mine over at TSC.  Buy them by the pallet.

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Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:55 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ralph" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
>
>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
>> Ralph
>> Brightlan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching

[Rick Harnish]

Peter's response:

 

Hi Rick,

 

Cameron asks a great question.  The simple answer is: "Yes, WISPS should
register all of the requested service area demographic information requested
by RUS."

 

It gets more detailed than that, and Cameron is right that correctly filing
the full required / requested data goes beyond the capabilities of most
WISPs (or cablecos, or telephone coops).  That is why we have assembled all
of the applicable data, and have it running on our severs.

 

I will answer Cameron directly, and CC you on the response. - Peter.

 

 

 

> -Original Message-

> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

> Behalf Of Rick Harnish

> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:13 PM

> To: 'WISPA General List'

> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching

> 

> Cameron,

> 

> I am forwarding this to Peter and hopefully he can answer this

> question. I'm

> unfortunately more of a facilitator in this process and have had very

> little

> time to study the process.  What I can do is try to ask the experts to

> get

> you the answer.

> 

> Thanks,

> Rick Harnish

> 

> > -Original Message-

> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

> On

> > Behalf Of cc...@dot11net.com

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:27 PM

> > To: WISPA General List

> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching

> >

> > So, I've read through Alex's little article on disputing, but he

> seems

> > to

> > leave out the part about "Existing Establishments Capable of

> Receiving

> > High Speed Access within the Proposed Funded Service Area". This is

> > where

> > they want you to tell them the demographics of your service area.

> While

> > I

> > have the tools to do this, it is not a trivial task if you do it

> > correctly, and I would doubt that most wisps on the list have the

> tools

> > to

> > do it. Does anyone know if this is actually required? What happens if

> > you

> > leave it at 0?

> >

> > Cameron

> >

> > > As you may or may not know, the upcoming deadline to file responses

> > to RUS

> > > funding applications is May 23rd, 2010.  I just got off the phone

> > with

> > > Peter

> > > Pratt of Stimulating Broadband.  He assisted 20-30 WISPA members

> last

> > week

> > > in filing their NTIA responses before May 10th.  He is writing a

> > press

> > > release now and I will be sending it out shortly concerning the

> > upcoming

> > > deadline with the RUS BIP Program.  I will also be discussing a

> > possible

> > > webinar with Peter and his constituent Liz Zucco early next week.

> > Once we

> > > have a firm date and time, I will be posting this also.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This Response Filing is quite challenging but definitely not

> > something a

> > > WISP should ignore.  This is your only chance to justify your

> service

> > area

> > > and WISPs may be at the highest risk.  WISPs typically have already

> > > invested

> > > heavily into their infrastructure and customer base.  Although no

> one

> > > likes

> > > to have to expend time, money and resources to defend their service

> > areas

> > > from overbuild, it is a fact of life with these federal programs

> > which are

> > > mandated to fund new broadband buildouts.  If the RUS does not know

> > that

> > > your business exists, the chances of grant money being allocated to

> > new

> > > competition are much higher.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alex Goldman wrote an article last week and posted it to the WISPA

> > website

> > > (http://www.wispa.org/?p=2189).  Please take time to read it and

> > review

> > > the

> > > applicants in your state who may be planning on overbuilding your

> > area.

> > > Get

> > > to work quickly as you have very little time left.  Also, look for

> an

> > > announcement later today with Peter Pratt's press release and

> another

> > > about

> > > a possible webinar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > While I applaud all WISPs who have applied for Grant funding and

> > respect

> > > that they have gone to great expense of time and money to produce

> > those

> > > applications, I want to say for the record, that I also represent

> all

> > > WISPs

> > > (WISPA members or not) and resolve it my duty to make those WISPs

> > aware of

> > > the ramifications of not filing their responses.  This has nothing

> to

> > do

> > > with favoritism, the procedure is defined by the Federal Government

> > and

> > > the

> > > information is public.  It is our duty as the trade association

> > > representing

> > > all of our members to educate all the best we can.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rick Harnish

> > >

> > > President

> > >

> > > WISPA

> > >

> > > 260-307-4000 cell

> > >

> > > 866-317-2851 WISPA Office

> > >

> > > Skype: rick.harnish.

> > >

> > > rharn...@wispa.org

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed

[Francois Menard]

I saw a lot of Vecima 900 MHz peanuts dormant in a closet at Atria Networks in 
Peterborough, ON

F.

On 2010-05-13, at 1:09 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:

> Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear.  If you
> have the following available, please contact Brent offlist.
> bhav...@marktwain.coop
> 
> His request is:
> 
> Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a
> vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brent
> 
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Harnish
> 
> President
> 
> WISPA
> 
> 260-307-4000 cell
> 
> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> 
> Skype: rick.harnish.
> 
> rharn...@wispa.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed

[Francois Menard]

I saw a lot of Vecima 900 MHz peanuts dormant in a closet at Atria Networks in 
Peterborough, ON

F.

On 2010-05-13, at 1:09 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:

> Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear.  If you
> have the following available, please contact Brent offlist.
> bhav...@marktwain.coop
> 
> His request is:
> 
> Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a
> vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brent
> 
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Harnish
> 
> President
> 
> WISPA
> 
> 260-307-4000 cell
> 
> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> 
> Skype: rick.harnish.
> 
> rharn...@wispa.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching

[Rick Harnish]

Cameron,

I am forwarding this to Peter and hopefully he can answer this question. I'm
unfortunately more of a facilitator in this process and have had very little
time to study the process.  What I can do is try to ask the experts to get
you the answer.

Thanks,
Rick Harnish

> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of cc...@dot11net.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching
> 
> So, I've read through Alex's little article on disputing, but he seems
> to
> leave out the part about "Existing Establishments Capable of Receiving
> High Speed Access within the Proposed Funded Service Area". This is
> where
> they want you to tell them the demographics of your service area. While
> I
> have the tools to do this, it is not a trivial task if you do it
> correctly, and I would doubt that most wisps on the list have the tools
> to
> do it. Does anyone know if this is actually required? What happens if
> you
> leave it at 0?
> 
> Cameron
> 
> > As you may or may not know, the upcoming deadline to file responses
> to RUS
> > funding applications is May 23rd, 2010.  I just got off the phone
> with
> > Peter
> > Pratt of Stimulating Broadband.  He assisted 20-30 WISPA members last
> week
> > in filing their NTIA responses before May 10th.  He is writing a
> press
> > release now and I will be sending it out shortly concerning the
> upcoming
> > deadline with the RUS BIP Program.  I will also be discussing a
> possible
> > webinar with Peter and his constituent Liz Zucco early next week.
> Once we
> > have a firm date and time, I will be posting this also.
> >
> >
> >
> > This Response Filing is quite challenging but definitely not
> something a
> > WISP should ignore.  This is your only chance to justify your service
> area
> > and WISPs may be at the highest risk.  WISPs typically have already
> > invested
> > heavily into their infrastructure and customer base.  Although no one
> > likes
> > to have to expend time, money and resources to defend their service
> areas
> > from overbuild, it is a fact of life with these federal programs
> which are
> > mandated to fund new broadband buildouts.  If the RUS does not know
> that
> > your business exists, the chances of grant money being allocated to
> new
> > competition are much higher.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex Goldman wrote an article last week and posted it to the WISPA
> website
> > (http://www.wispa.org/?p=2189).  Please take time to read it and
> review
> > the
> > applicants in your state who may be planning on overbuilding your
> area.
> > Get
> > to work quickly as you have very little time left.  Also, look for an
> > announcement later today with Peter Pratt's press release and another
> > about
> > a possible webinar.
> >
> >
> >
> > While I applaud all WISPs who have applied for Grant funding and
> respect
> > that they have gone to great expense of time and money to produce
> those
> > applications, I want to say for the record, that I also represent all
> > WISPs
> > (WISPA members or not) and resolve it my duty to make those WISPs
> aware of
> > the ramifications of not filing their responses.  This has nothing to
> do
> > with favoritism, the procedure is defined by the Federal Government
> and
> > the
> > information is public.  It is our duty as the trade association
> > representing
> > all of our members to educate all the best we can.
> >
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> >
> > President
> >
> > WISPA
> >
> > 260-307-4000 cell
> >
> > 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> >
> > Skype: rick.harnish.
> >
> > rharn...@wispa.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed

[Rick Harnish]

Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear.  If you
have the following available, please contact Brent offlist.
bhav...@marktwain.coop

His request is:

Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a
vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's.

 

Thanks

Brent

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

President

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

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Re: [WISPA] RUS Deadline Approaching

[ccrum]

So, I've read through Alex's little article on disputing, but he seems to
leave out the part about "Existing Establishments Capable of Receiving
High Speed Access within the Proposed Funded Service Area". This is where
they want you to tell them the demographics of your service area. While I
have the tools to do this, it is not a trivial task if you do it
correctly, and I would doubt that most wisps on the list have the tools to
do it. Does anyone know if this is actually required? What happens if you
leave it at 0?

Cameron

> As you may or may not know, the upcoming deadline to file responses to RUS
> funding applications is May 23rd, 2010.  I just got off the phone with
> Peter
> Pratt of Stimulating Broadband.  He assisted 20-30 WISPA members last week
> in filing their NTIA responses before May 10th.  He is writing a press
> release now and I will be sending it out shortly concerning the upcoming
> deadline with the RUS BIP Program.  I will also be discussing a possible
> webinar with Peter and his constituent Liz Zucco early next week.  Once we
> have a firm date and time, I will be posting this also.
>
>
>
> This Response Filing is quite challenging but definitely not something a
> WISP should ignore.  This is your only chance to justify your service area
> and WISPs may be at the highest risk.  WISPs typically have already
> invested
> heavily into their infrastructure and customer base.  Although no one
> likes
> to have to expend time, money and resources to defend their service areas
> from overbuild, it is a fact of life with these federal programs which are
> mandated to fund new broadband buildouts.  If the RUS does not know that
> your business exists, the chances of grant money being allocated to new
> competition are much higher.
>
>
>
> Alex Goldman wrote an article last week and posted it to the WISPA website
> (http://www.wispa.org/?p=2189).  Please take time to read it and review
> the
> applicants in your state who may be planning on overbuilding your area.
> Get
> to work quickly as you have very little time left.  Also, look for an
> announcement later today with Peter Pratt's press release and another
> about
> a possible webinar.
>
>
>
> While I applaud all WISPs who have applied for Grant funding and respect
> that they have gone to great expense of time and money to produce those
> applications, I want to say for the record, that I also represent all
> WISPs
> (WISPA members or not) and resolve it my duty to make those WISPs aware of
> the ramifications of not filing their responses.  This has nothing to do
> with favoritism, the procedure is defined by the Federal Government and
> the
> information is public.  It is our duty as the trade association
> representing
> all of our members to educate all the best we can.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> President
>
> WISPA
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.
>
> rharn...@wispa.org
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[ccrum]

At least not the kind of chicks you'd be interested in.

Cameron

> Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?
>
> Friendly Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
> Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
> Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive
> together -
> I have a big suburban ;-)
>
>
> On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
>> chuimps.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ralph" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>>
>>
>>> Frank and I will be there.
>>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>>
>>> http://hamvention.org
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>> Brightlan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[lakeland]

Chicks?   Hahahahahahaa!  

All the ones I have seen there were missing teeth and wearing coveralls or 
NASCAR T shirts.

Kinda like a school bus drivers coinvention

:-P

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Mike" 
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:54:43 
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
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Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ralph" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
>
>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
>> Ralph
>> Brightlan
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[WISPA] Where can I buy Telkonet equipment?

[Scott Carullo]

do not want to lease - want to own it. Need to replace leased gear on a 
site with same parts. Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Bret Clark]

On 05/13/2010 11:59 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:25, Bret Clark  wrote:
>
>
>> I must have missed it, but what did the telcos do with the 3.65 range?
>>
>>  
> I dunno whether this was the telcos' doing, or not, but the power rules in
> 3.65 are silly and counter-intuitive.
>
> Basically, your EIRP is limited to... the width of your channel. Need a
> small, long-distance link? Too bad, a 5MHz channel limits you to 5 watts
> EIRP (about 37dBm). Using better antennas doesn't help; there's no "tradeoff
> power for antenna gain" rule like 2.4 PTP. A 20MHz-wide channel lets you go
> up to 20 watts EIRP (43 dBm). The rules encourage using more spectrum than
> you really need, and make it very difficult to set up longer-distance links
> - even if you use all 25MHz available to you, there's a hard cap of 25 W
> EIRP (or 44.something dBm).
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
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>
>
Oh yeah..that I knew...was worried some new just happen, thanks for the 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[David E. Smith]

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:25, Bret Clark  wrote:

> I must have missed it, but what did the telcos do with the 3.65 range?
>

I dunno whether this was the telcos' doing, or not, but the power rules in
3.65 are silly and counter-intuitive.

Basically, your EIRP is limited to... the width of your channel. Need a
small, long-distance link? Too bad, a 5MHz channel limits you to 5 watts
EIRP (about 37dBm). Using better antennas doesn't help; there's no "tradeoff
power for antenna gain" rule like 2.4 PTP. A 20MHz-wide channel lets you go
up to 20 watts EIRP (43 dBm). The rules encourage using more spectrum than
you really need, and make it very difficult to set up longer-distance links
- even if you use all 25MHz available to you, there's a hard cap of 25 W
EIRP (or 44.something dBm).

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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Liam Cummings]

Oh then I'm not going
Sent from my Datacom Specialists black berry

- Original Message -
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Sent: Thu May 13 11:54:43 2010
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
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Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ralph" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
>
>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
>> Ralph
>> Brightlan
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Josh Luthman]

You go to the Oregon district after Hamvention...

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Mike  wrote:
> Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?
>
> Friendly Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
> Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
> Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive
> together -
> I have a big suburban ;-)
>
>
> On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
>> chuimps.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ralph" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>>
>>
>>> Frank and I will be there.
>>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>>
>>> http://hamvention.org
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>> Brightlan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Mike]

Hamfest?  Chicks?  Are you nuts?

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ralph" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
>
>
>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
>> Ralph
>> Brightlan
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed

[Cameron Kilton]

I get my Radwin gear from Winncom. The C series is currently 100Mbit in 
20mhz channel the up upgrade that came out yesterday 200mbit in 40mhz 
channel


Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
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Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
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On 5/12/2010 10:42 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
> Thank you all for the recommendations.
>
> I have not purchased any of this gear before.  If there are any suggestions 
> as to where a good place to get pricing and acquire said equipment please 
> send over and I'll follow up.   Once I have pricing I'll make a decision.  
> Feel free to send back off list or on - guess it depends on the contents.  
> Thanks again for your time.
>
> Need sources for the equipment below.  I estimated the cost of the links 
> too...
>
> Motorola PTP500  $10k
> Radwin 2000 C series $5K Cameron said - was this the same 2000 C series 100MB 
> gear?
> Exalt ExtendAir r5000 $5K
>
> I've never been a proxim or redline fan, I'll skip those options.  I have 
> never used the others above so I'll look into them further.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> 
>
> From: "Josh Luthman"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:55 AM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed
>
> If budget is not a concern PTP500.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Scott Carullo
>   wrote:
>> What are your recommendations?  I now this has been asked before but now
>> I'm asking again (opinions and equipment changes).
>>
>> Budget is not really a problem on this link, just need it to work good.
>> Licensed not an option due to its location, can't explain.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Jeff Ehman]

My comment below was assuming you want/need to go with PtMP because of tower 
requirements ect...  I agree with Gino though that licensed PtP links are 
probably your best solution if you can justify it.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies
"There is a difference"


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Ehman
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

Airspan has a great solution.  Their MicroMax or MacroMax base stations operate 
in 2.5GHz and utilize 802.16e.  You can do full mobility but as with any 
802.16e solution you would need an ASN Gateway.  For your application, I doubt 
this would be useful though.

Your best bet would be a MicroMaxe base station with ProST2 CPE.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
"There is a difference"


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.

We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.

I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
number of business customers.

Marco


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi  wrote:
> Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
> If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed PTMP made.
>
> Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease spectrum?
>
> I cant answer the question, just courious.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marco Coelho" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear
>
>
>> Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marco C. Coelho
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Jeff Ehman]

Airspan has a great solution.  Their MicroMax or MacroMax base stations operate 
in 2.5GHz and utilize 802.16e.  You can do full mobility but as with any 
802.16e solution you would need an ASN Gateway.  For your application, I doubt 
this would be useful though.

Your best bet would be a MicroMaxe base station with ProST2 CPE.

-Jeff
Convergence Technologies 
"There is a difference"


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.

We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.

I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
number of business customers.

Marco


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi  wrote:
> Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
> If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed PTMP made.
>
> Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease spectrum?
>
> I cant answer the question, just courious.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marco Coelho" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear
>
>
>> Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marco C. Coelho
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Bret Clark]

I must have missed it, but what did the telcos do with the 3.65 range?

On 05/13/2010 11:05 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
> FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Gino Villarini]

Not doable with any licensed pmp solution

Go licensed ptp


Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On May 13, 2010, at 11:10 AM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:

> I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.
>
> We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
> FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.
>
> I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
> number of business customers.
>
> Marco
>
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi  > wrote:
>> Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
>> If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed  
>> PTMP made.
>>
>> Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease  
>> spectrum?
>>
>> I cant answer the question, just courious.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marco Coelho" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear
>>
>>
>>> Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marco C. Coelho
>>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>>> POB 875
>>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear

[Marco Coelho]

I'm looking to sub lease spectrum.

We have a 3.65 license, but After all the telcos got done changing the
FCC requirements, I don't see much advantage to that.

I would like to be able to push out 20-50 Meg symmetrical pipes to a
number of business customers.

Marco


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Tom DeReggi  wrote:
> Isn't the real question, does anyone have licensed spectrum?
> If they can afford spectrum I bet they can afford to get Licensed PTMP made.
>
> Do you have spectrum, or are you looking for options to lease spectrum?
>
> I cant answer the question, just courious.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marco Coelho" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:07 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Licensed PMP Gear
>
>
>> Is anyone out there making licensed Point to Multipoint gear?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marco C. Coelho
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Liam Cummings]

LolI'm in :)
Sent from my Datacom Specialists black berry

- Original Message -
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Sent: Thu May 13 09:30:59 2010
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



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Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
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> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
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>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
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>> Brightlan
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Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

[Robert West]

Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards?



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Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?

Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive  
together -
I have a big suburban ;-)


On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'll be there.  But no rubber duck antennas in my hat.  That be for da
> chuimps.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ralph" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
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>> Frank and I will be there.
>> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner.
>> Please stop by if you are at the show!
>>
>> http://hamvention.org
>>
>> Ralph
>> Brightlan
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Re: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed

[Marlon K. Schafer]

OK, budget isn't an issue, how about tower space?

In my perfect world I'd rather run 2 or more slower radios and have a switch 
or bridge of some kind aggregate the traffic across them all to get the 
higher speeds.  This way when a single device fails the link doesn't fail 
with it.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed


> 100 mbps hdx or fdx?
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:50 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] 6 mile 100MB link 5Ghz non-licensed
>
> What are your recommendations?  I now this has been asked before but now
>
> I'm asking again (opinions and equipment changes).
>
> Budget is not really a problem on this link, just need it to work good.
>
> Licensed not an option due to its location, can't explain.
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> Thanks
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