[WISPA] Recommend a Product?
I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point-to-point wireless product that is only needing to cover about 50 yards. This is a building to building setup, with one side (the masters side) needing to shoot through the exterior brick wall of one building (it will be mounted in the ceiling space) and then through a clear window on the other building. We currently serve this need with an old Tsunami 5.8Ghz, 8Mbps bridge, but it's old, and we want to go ahead and replace it. I only need something like 10-20Mbps full duplex, and I'd prefer it to have a small-ish beamwidth and use low power. I'm leaning on using a Trango Atlas or T-Link, but something less capable and with a smaller channel size (those use 20Mhz) would be great. Unfortunately just doing ethernet in this scenario is not possible. If you guys have any recommendations, please contact me offlist -- thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SilverLining
That is interesting, but I'm really having trouble figuring out the business model of this particular captive portal implementation. From what I see, it is centered on Batman/Robin based radios, requires a hefty monthly fee, and plays ads. Unless I am reading wrong, you can't connect your legacy network if you choose not to use that type of mesh, or even a mesh at all. The ads seem to be chosen by the Silverlining People for lack of a better term. Is that correct? I don't see any support for Authorize.net , iPay, or any other system other than PayPal. What if you don't want to have ads? What/where is the open source part? Is it just the Batman/Robin stuff? Please give us more information about how this portal could be used for any other thing than serving ads on these Meraki-ish radios, which are by no means carrier class. Thanks Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:38 AM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SilverLining We rolled out SilverLining's new OPEN SOURCE captive portal system with PayPal and OpenX ad server integration on Sunday. Yesterday we had 1000 splash page displays so we are seeing some good usage. I'm sure that there are a fair number of users that are re-logging in after the 30 minutes/50MB limits are reached but that's just driving them back to the splash page where they see ads. We are not seeing takers on the paid service, but that's fine - I'm really after the Ad Revenue anyway. we'll see some takers on the 15/month service which will help as well. Plus we will be advertising our services at no cost to us. We have the software running on an Alix board and it's doing fine. I'm pleased. Blog page here: http://blog.silverliningnetworks.com/2010/08/announcing-the-silversplash-ope n-source-captive-portal.html Discussion here: http://groups.google.com/group/silversplash WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Use two Ubiquiti NSM2 radios (or the loco version if its out) It will go through all the walls you need, transfer in excess of 20MB and is very inexpensive (less than $200) for all of it. My 2 cents... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Return-Path: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Received: from outboundmail.mvn.net (outboundmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.104]) by mail.brevardwireless.com with SMTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:44:18 -0400 Received: by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id B3E19C7FC5; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:43:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 (2008-06-10) on outboundmail.mvn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=8.0 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 Received: from plesk.mvn.net (plesk-1.mvn.net [66.232.160.84]) by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE8FC806D for sc...@brevardwireless.com; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 22011 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2010 08:43:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO plesk.mvn.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Aug 2010 08:43:32 -0500 Delivered-To: 24-wirel...@wispa.org Received: (qmail 21118 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2010 08:43:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.mvn.net (HELO junkmail.mvn.net) (66.232.160.16) by webpanel.mvn.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 2010 08:43:24 -0500 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1281620603-1b7e0191-RAC2qD Received: from authord.QX.Net (authord.qx.net [64.191.128.91]) by junkmail.mvn.net with ESMTP id 48TTPAuQex9jo46f for wireless@wispa.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:43:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: l...@qx.net X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.191.128.91 Received-SPF: pass (junkmail.mvn.net: domain of qx.net designates 64.191.128.91 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.191.128.91; envelope-from=l...@qx.net; Received: from [64.191.128.136] (unverified [64.191.128.136]) by authord.QX.Net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.7.840.18) with ESMTP id f0597472...@authord.qx.net for wireless@wispa.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:43:19 -0400 X-Modus-ReverseDNS: Error=NoRecords X-Modus-BlackList: 64.191.128.136=OK;l...@qx.net=ok X-Modus-RBL: 64.191.128.136=Excluded X-Modus-Trusted: 64.191.128.136=NO X-Modus-Audit: FALSE;0;0;0 Message-ID: 4c63fa77@qx.net Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:43:19 -0400 From: Steven McGehee l...@qx.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100512 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Recommend a Product? X-Barracuda-Connect: authord.qx.net[64.191.128.91] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1281620603 X-Barracuda-URL: http://junkmail.mvn.net:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at mvn.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.3 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description -- -- Subject: [WISPA] Recommend a Product? X-BeenThere: wireless@wispa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org List-Id: WISPA General List wireless.wispa.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless List-Post: mailto:wireless@wispa.org List-Help: mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Errors-To: wireless-boun...@wispa.org X-Rcpt-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: Bayesian Filtering, Commtouch 0 [value: Unknown], SPF_Pass, DK_None, DKIM_None X-CTCH-RefId: str=0001.0A010201.4C63FABE.006E,ss=1,fgs=0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 1 I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point-to-point wireless product that is only needing to cover about 50 yards. This is a building to building setup, with one side (the masters side) needing to shoot through the exterior brick wall of one building (it will be mounted in the ceiling space) and then through a clear window on the other building. We currently serve this need with an old Tsunami 5.8Ghz, 8Mbps bridge, but it's old, and we want to go ahead and replace it. I only need something like 10-20Mbps full duplex, and I'd prefer it to have a small-ish beamwidth and use low power. I'm leaning on using a Trango Atlas or T-Link, but something less capable and with a smaller channel size (those use 20Mhz) would be great. Unfortunately just doing ethernet in this scenario is not possible. If you guys have any recommendations, please contact me
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point-to-point wireless product that is only needing to cover about 50 yards. This is a building to building setup, with one side (the masters side) needing to shoot through the exterior brick wall of one building (it will be mounted in the ceiling space) and then through a clear window on the other building. We currently serve this need with an old Tsunami 5.8Ghz, 8Mbps bridge, but it's old, and we want to go ahead and replace it. I only need something like 10-20Mbps full duplex, and I'd prefer it to have a small-ish beamwidth and use low power. I'm leaning on using a Trango Atlas or T-Link, but something less capable and with a smaller channel size (those use 20Mhz) would be great. Unfortunately just doing ethernet in this scenario is not possible. If you guys have any recommendations, please contact me offlist -- thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Are the Nanostation or Loco M full duplex? On 08/12/2010 09:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, "Mark Dueck" m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE Switch
Hello Paolo, The 8 port non compliant switch should be available in September. It has 7 POE ports and 1 uplink port. It comes with DIN rail adapters for DIN rail mounting. The switches come with the green DIN rail adapters. http://tyconpower.com/products/images/TP-SW_DIN_Rail_mounting.jpg It won't have an way to manage the switch remotely. We are working to add that functionality to our switches but it is a long project. Scott Tycon Power Systems PH: 801-432-0003 FAX: 801-618-4220 sco...@tyconpower.com www.tyconpower.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch also the temperature range is not good for industrial environment. The switch range is -10C,70C while the midspan is 0,40C Yes double input would be appreciated Also a web/terminal (and SMNP?) to see what is happening would be maybe more interesting than the led on the device itself. About 1U, I would prefer to have the possibility to have half size (1/2 19) in a frame in order to have multiple things in the 1U slice. If somebody is in touch with them... ;) The Tycon Power Midspan injectors look promising, but like you said they need to add redundant power supply inputs and switches/jumpers to reverse voltage polarity in order to support more products. Sure would be nice if they added the current indicator too so you know if the radio up top is plugged in/powered up or not. Lightening surge suppressor on each port is also a must have for a device like this. Hopefully their design team is listening to people like us! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch Just talked to Tycon Power. The image on the PDF is incorrect. The correct image is: http://www.wlanparts.com/product/TP-SW5/High-Speed-10100Mb-5-Port-POE-Switch .html I was more interested in a 4/8 port POE device with redundant power supply inputs and switches/jumpers to reverse polarity. I called and spoke with Tycon and described this and he said to look for something around end of Sept/Early Oct. I guess they had something like this in the works. Combine that with a managed switch or a Router Board and it's a nice clean tower cabinet. No hacking required. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch They also appear to have a 12 port pass through model. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/11/2010 3:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi all, I saw this interesting switch which is has NON stardard POE, i.e. good for 12-24V devices: http://tyconpower.com/products/files/TP-SW8_POE_Switch_Spec_Sheet.pdf It seems a good idea instead of multiple POE (but also a single POE, is a single point of failure...) Anybody using it? Comments? Thank you WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
No. They are 802.11 or Airmax (TDMA). Mimo 2x2. You get up to 150 megs HDX and can do up to 100 one way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Are the Nanostation or Loco M full duplex? On 08/12/2010 09:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Is it really not possible to fly Fiber or outdoor Arial Cat5? If not, are there phone lines between the buildings? If so, these work extremely well: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT Otherwise a true FDD radio is going to be pricey. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:58 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product? Are the Nanostation or Loco M full duplex? On 08/12/2010 09:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bzmailto:m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Thanks Jerry, and the rest of you gents, for your recommendations -- I'm taking them all into consideration, although wireless is still likely the route we'll go. Have a great afternoon. On 8/12/2010 12:04, Jerry Richardson wrote: Is it really not possible to fly Fiber or outdoor Arial Cat5? If not, are there phone lines between the buildings? If so, these work extremely well: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT Otherwise a true FDD radio is going to be pricey. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Dueck *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:58 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product? Are the Nanostation or Loco M full duplex? On 08/12/2010 09:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz mailto:m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
My guess would be the low symbol rate you have on a few clients. Try getting their signal better, or temporarily disabling them to see if that helps. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 8/12/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Dueck wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
With Ubiquity gear the normal / standard for troubleshooting is something like this:- ... Update to the latest firmware (from their site) also review what fixes in the latest beta (posted in the forum) Try setting up your AP without Auto Ack and setup the Ack distance manually. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/12/2010 2:08 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: My guess would be the low symbol rate you have on a few clients. Try getting their signal better, or temporarily disabling them to see if that helps. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 8/12/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Dueck wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using pingIP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0Fhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DBhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FAhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2Bhttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3Ehttp://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi#-84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 25
Responding from the digest list, so hopefully this thread won't break, but I've added responses inline also: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM, wireless-requ...@wispa.org wrote: From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Ralph, Answers inline - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] SilverLining That is interesting, but I'm really having trouble figuring out the business model of this particular captive portal implementation. From what I see, it is centered on Batman/Robin based radios Don't look at the website. that is no longer the model. The captive portal is network agnostic. In our case we drive all WiFi traffic to our head end over VLANs. We can also tunnel over anyone's ISP making every HotSpot an extension of our network and use the same Captive Portal That is correct, we have end of lifed our wifi repeater based service. This open source captive portal we have released runs on any Linux device. We have some additional services that will be listed on our website in due time. , requires a hefty monthly fee, and plays ads. The feedback that we got from customers, and our comparisons with similar products, showed that our solution was very much less expensive than competitive products. We were offering a $9/month service at the low end, and the closest competition required you to buy a $30k rack mounted appliance which (in my humble opinion) did not come close to the performance of our service. It's now Open Source, no fees. The ad revenue is yours. That's correct, the captive portal is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license, which gives you a great deal of flexibility on how you can deploy and modify the code (much more so than the GPL). Unless I am reading wrong, you can't connect your legacy network if you choose not to use that type of mesh, or even a mesh at all. See above That's correct - this captive portal can be installed as a gateway on any layer2 network. The ads seem to be chosen by the Silverlining People for lack of a better term. Is that correct? No, you are 100% in control of the Ads. You can sell display advertising to local businesses or use the space to promote your company's products and services, or use Ad Exchanges, orwhatever suits you. OpenX is an ad-service appliance that will allow you to deliver ads on a rotating basis so that each time a user logs onto the network, they see a different ad. You have 100% control of the ads. We can provide you with advertisements specifically geared towards wifi networks, and deliver revenue share from those ads. We understand the nuances of what advertisers want on wifi networks very much after going at this for several years. But you can run whatever content you want in that space. I don't see any support for Authorize.net , iPay, or any other system other than PayPal. It's Open Source so I would expect to see support for alternate services developed. We chose PayPal because we were in a hurry. PayPal offered several advantages over the other options. Having used Authorize.Net for several years, I can say they have a reliable merchant service. But it didn't turn out to be a good fit for a pay per use option on visitor based wifi networks. The fees were always increasing (up 30% so far in 2010), there was a significant amount of paperwork that had to be managed, and dealing with multiple entities (i.e. Cybersource and other vendors they required you to report to) became a non starter over the long term. PayPal is a well known brand that consumers trust for the most part, and their payment API fit well into the captive portal design. Best of all, you can get going with just a paypal address - no monthly fees whatsoever. We may add iPay support at some point depending on the details of that interface. What if you don't want to have ads? You are in control of the pages. If you don't want to have ads, SilverSplash is probably not a good choice for your visitor based captive portal. It was designed specifically with advertising in mind. Other general purpose captive portals do not work well with advertising, which is why we designed SilverSplash. What/where is the open source part? Is it just the Batman/Robin stuff? Blog page here: http://blog.silverliningnetworks.com/2010/08/announcing-the-silversplash-open-source-captive-portal.html Batman is an open source mesh implementation which is available at open-mesh.org. ROBIN is a visible source firmware distribution which is available at robin.forumup.it. The SilverSplash captive portal is separate from both of those; it is only a captive portal. The development for SilverSplash can be tracked at github - http://github.com/redhotpenguin/App-SilverSplash Discussion here: http://groups.google.com/group/silversplash Please give us more information about how
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 25
My follow up to this post did not go through last night because of my list settings. Posting it here, apologies if I broke the list thread. Message: 17 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:36:26 -0400 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] SilverLining To: motor...@afmug.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: aanlktinx+mq9yga4yte=8kgmasgh=b-pahslp0viy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Can you point out where to start? How does it work? What libraries is it dependent on? On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So it must be the gateway, correct? Can I run dhcpd on the same box? That's correct, it is the gateway for the network segment where you provide visitor based access. A dhcp server is actually required with the current version, but may be optional in future versions. I've been using the dnsmasq dhcp server for SilverSplash. I assume you meant a dhcp server instead of the client daemon? - Hide quoted text - On Aug 12, 2010 1:55 AM, Fred Moyer f...@slwifi.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can you point ... It uses the iptables program to configure various firewall chains to route traffic depending on what options the end user selects in the web page that is presented to the user when they connect and attempt to access the WAN. You'll need to install iptables, Apache, and mod_perl using whatever packaging system that your Linux distribution uses. From there, you can grab a copy of cpanminus (a great tool for install Perl modules) at http://xrl.us/cpanminus Then install SilverSplash with 'perl cpanminus App::SilverSplash'. If you can manage a Linux box, you have the skills to set it up successfully. On Aug 12, 2010 1:15 AM, Fred Moyer f...@slwifi.com wrote: You can run it on any Linux box that has Apache 2.x installed. It has been tested on Centos 5.5, so you can install most of the dependencies easily with yum, and then install SilverSplash from CPAN. From there it is just a couple of text file modifications and testing to get up and running. Happy to answer any questions here about it, but for both the users of this list and the SilverSplash list, in depth discussions are most helpful at the captive portal group. The development is being hosted at github, so any developers here are welcome to hack it up and submit patches back to the master branch. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Great to hear WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN
We had all sorts of lightning issues at our primary tower 15 years ago. Here's what fixed it: What we did was put a ground ring around the tower, and another ring around the building connected to that ring. 150 ground rods interconnected with #2 solid copper cad welded to the rods. Each leg of the tower is cadwelded with #2 sold and that is cadwelded to the tower ring. From that ring, we bring in #2 awg 'stingers', or connections into the building that the equipment gets grounded to. Rack, Routers, everything. Avoid ground loops. I would also recommend lightning dissapators that discharge the ion field before the strike ever happens. A ground rod with it's own #2 from the top of the tower should also get connected to the ring. Shielded ethernet cables everywhere since the emf from the lightning couples into the high impedance line and fries ports. APC UPS's on all AC, TrippLite IsoBar surge protectors or TrippLite PDUs on all AC connections. All radio cables coming from outside are shielded and grounded. All those go to grounded surge protectors. All RF cables have grounded polyphaser surge protectors (these rock). Knock on wood, not an issue since then (10+ years). Marco Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz
take a 900MHz radio there and put it in spectrum analyzer mode. show them you have nothing in that band. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Sweet! Headed out for my run in a moment, which way are we looking, just west and we will see it? On Aug 12, 2010 8:36 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
I don't know much about astronomy. What's the bright white object up and to the left? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/12/2010 7:35 PM, Mike wrote: The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Venus. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight I don't know much about astronomy. What's the bright white object up and to the left? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/12/2010 7:35 PM, Mike wrote: The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
I thought it looked like Uranus. On Aug 12, 2010 9:59 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Venus. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On... Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight I don't know much about astronomy. What's the... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Well can anyone see it at the moment? On Aug 12, 2010 10:09 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com* wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of p... ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO * *StLouisBroadband.com* http://stlbroadband.com/ *ShowMeBroadband.com* http://showmebroadband.com/* * -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.or... The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wa... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
To the west in the setting sun. The moon has set at my location but Venus is brightest with mars up and left, and Saturn up and right. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:07 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO http://stlbroadband.com/ StLouisBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
been looking,no luck,I'll keep at it. Thanks --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:19 PM To the west in the setting sun. The moon has set at my location but Venus is brightest with mars up and left, and Saturn up and right. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:07 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
If you are in city lights you won't see it. Venus will be obvious but Mars and Saturn are dimmer. Westerners will be seeing it now. Easterners missed it. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight been looking,no luck,I'll keep at it. Thanks --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:19 PM To the west in the setting sun. The moon has set at my location but Venus is brightest with mars up and left, and Saturn up and right. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:07 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight Not seeing it,where should I be looking??? --- On Thu, 8/12/10, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:46 PM This is also known as the T-Square Convergence: PLANETS ALIGN FOR THE PERSEIDS: Mark your calendar- On Thursday, August 12th, an alignment of planets in the sunset sky will kick off the finest meteor shower of 2010, the Perseids. Solar wind speed has remained consistent over the last 8 days- perhaps an early indication that solar intensity is strengthening. Geomagnetic activity has subsided to low levels and the aurora show of August 3rd and 4th has come to an end but the Earth could face another potential geomagnetic storm as early as next week. Sunspots have erupted across the entire surface of the Sun, facing Earth. Sunspots 1092 and 1093 pose a threat for C-class solar flares. -Space Weather Victoria Proffer - President/CEO http://stlbroadband.com/ StLouisBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Aww :( Anxious for the meteor showers. CNN suggests midnight is a good time to start watching, with the best time to be 2am. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: If you are in city lights you won’t see it. Venus will be obvious but Mars and Saturn are dimmer. Westerners will be seeing it now. Easterners missed it. -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:23 PM *To:* WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight been looking,no luck,I'll keep at it. Thanks --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrot... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Electrical Question.......
Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery.. Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
Okay, Mike. So I take it that you are also an amateur astronomer. Celestron C14 and 12 StarHopper on this end. Bob- I suffer from aperture envy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight The show begins at sundown when Venus, Saturn, Mars and the crescent Moon pop out of the western twilight in tight conjunction. All four heavenly objects will fit within a circle about 10 degrees in diameter, beaming together through the dusky colors of sunset. No telescope is required to enjoy this naked-eye event. Stay up late and the Perseid meteor shower will be peaking too. Friendly Regards, Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
How old is your PS2? A year or so ago, a batch of PS2's had an issue with bad MMCX connectors to the internal board. Caused me some crazy low throughput issues. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
One bad thing that i have seen with 3 phase is that you can lose 1 leg of it and bad things happen. But as long as you are protected with a UPS with filtering, you should be all good. Will also let you run more efficiently with higher voltages. On 8/12/2010 10:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn’t involve the lottery…. Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight
@Midnight it is Friday the 13th. This is the only Friday the 13th of this year, whereas last year we had three. This is way OT, but . here is some info I picked up on one of those 'tin foil hat' forums, regarding this 696 year event: Friday the 13th is the Mourning day of the year, because it is when the brave Grand Master of the Temple and his servants were put to death by BURGUNDY FROGS in conspiracy with the Pope. The Temple Knight on guard of the Holy Grail, they were captured in the year 1307 and burned to death in the year 1314. 696 years ago they were burned to death, but before he died, The Grand Master de'Moulay Yacub promised a mayor apocalypse for the 13th Generation! And He Would see the King and Pope on Judgment day. Yes that was 696 years ago that some started to fear Friday the 13th and while others felt it like their lucky day... Friday the 13th is the mourning of the anniversary of the death of the Temple Grand Priest Coward murdered by conspirators of darkness... If you wish it will be a lucky day, say a prayer to honor the warriors of Light. Swing with the history flag, and light a candle and say a little prayer to honor the Knights, the 13th is here, and so is the 703th Anniversary of the Persecution of the Knights Templar. And try understand the historical reasoning why these events took place... It's was not for the money or gold they where murdered, but because of the truth they knew, ... that was what the evil frog King and the evil Pope were afraid for. The knight's had discovered the betrayal of the burgundy Frogs, the pope and their secret alliance with the Mongols. A betrayal that currently is, may never completely be revealed, but all we know, is that we were here to witness it. Just thought it was interesting . I LOVE the net! ~V~ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight Aww :( Anxious for the meteor showers. CNN suggests midnight is a good time to start watching, with the best time to be 2am. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: If you are in city lights you won't see it. Venus will be obvious but Mars and Saturn are dimmer. Westerners will be seeing it now. Easterners missed it. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight been looking,no luck,I'll keep at it. Thanks --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrot... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/12/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
Three phase does not provide any more or less protection against lightning. I have three phase power to my house...lucky me...live in a 60 year old house. I, and one other guy on my block who still has three phase power, both lost our AC compressors in a lightning storm on the same night two summers ago. Everyone on single phase...no problem. Three phase does have some advantages especially with efficiency with high current devices like compressors and such, but it does not provide inherent protection against power surges like lightning strikes. Cameron 3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
Cameron; I was currious, how does your monthly billing work where you are located. Frank On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Three phase does not provide any more or less protection against lightning. I have three phase power to my house...lucky me...live in a 60 year old house. I, and one other guy on my block who still has three phase power, both lost our AC compressors in a lightning storm on the same night two summers ago. Everyone on single phase...no problem. Three phase does have some advantages especially with efficiency with high current devices like compressors and such, but it does not provide inherent protection against power surges like lightning strikes. Cameron 3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
I'm assuming you have, but I've never had much luck with G mode. With that said, I just fixed a similar issue by using a a Bullet2HP (non M). -RickG On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size..Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 http://172.20.0.3/stalist.cgi# -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......
We just have a 3 phase meter. They read it like any other. Cameron Cameron; I was currious, how does your monthly billing work where you are located. Frank On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Three phase does not provide any more or less protection against lightning. I have three phase power to my house...lucky me...live in a 60 year old house. I, and one other guy on my block who still has three phase power, both lost our AC compressors in a lightning storm on the same night two summers ago. Everyone on single phase...no problem. Three phase does have some advantages especially with efficiency with high current devices like compressors and such, but it does not provide inherent protection against power surges like lightning strikes. Cameron 3 phase metering (as in how much you pay the utility )is done different than single phase, I would check with your utility, also check your initial costs of 3 phase equipment - meter base and entrance panel. How I understand the billing in our area is, 3 phase meter has a needle that is moved to the max use and you are billed that amount whether the elec is on or off. Just check, it may not be important but then again. Frank On 8/12/2010 8:31 PM, Robert West wrote: Putting together a new NOC. The new NOC is in an older warehouse and we ripped out ALL the crazy wiring and the multiple electrical panels. Total gut job. Installed a single phase electrical panel for the retail and service area in the front but we have three phase coming into the building. Electrician uncle Dude, 80+ years, tells me that three phase protects against power surges since it adds another transformer. My question is, would installing a three phase panel for the NOC be a proactive thing? Advantageous against the great lightning and idiotic power company Godz? (GODZ Rock And Roll Machine) Old location was all three phase and we never had one lick of trouble Not one. Would this be the reason or would it be just a stroke of luck, one that didn't involve the lottery Figures. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/