Re: [WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site

2010-12-06 Thread Rick Harnish 
I've taken care of Chris.

Rick

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of David E. Smith
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 13:03, Christopher Hair 
> wrote:
> > How do I obtain a UN/PW for the WISPA Member WIKI Site.
> 
> Your username and password will be the same as the one you use for
> other WISPA member resources (like the billing system). If you've lost
> those credentials, email bill...@wispa.org.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site

2010-12-06 Thread David E. Smith 
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 13:03, Christopher Hair  wrote:
> How do I obtain a UN/PW for the WISPA Member WIKI Site.

Your username and password will be the same as the one you use for
other WISPA member resources (like the billing system). If you've lost
those credentials, email bill...@wispa.org.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site

2010-12-06 Thread Dennis Burgess 
Shoot a e-mail to bill...@wispa.org J

 

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Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site

 

How do I obtain a UN/PW for the WISPA Member WIKI Site.

 

Thanks in Advance 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-06 Thread jp 
In our area, there are a good number of used towers installed. This 
could be a used tower that came from an area where it needed painting 
and lighting. Obviously lights are a lot easier to remove than paint.

Many municipal towers are hand-me-down used towers from war surplus, all 
installed before I was born, with civil defense earmarks.

It might need paint to prevent corrosion and they painted it white when 
it was due for it or because that was a convenient time.

On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 05:22:38PM -0800, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> I have a 100 foot guyed tower on top of a hill, it was previously an FM 
> Radio station, they moved their site,  sold us the site, but continue to 
> use this site for STL's.  Since then I've added the Fire Department and a 
> low power radio station plus my own equipment.  The tower was never lighted 
> but was red and white paint.  When the FM moved off it they painted it 
> white.  Can you tell me the purpose of why they painted it and how, 
> especially being <10 miles from an approach why we don't have to light it?
>
> Thanks,
> Forbes
>

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[WISPA] WISPA Member WIKI Site

2010-12-06 Thread Christopher Hair 
How do I obtain a UN/PW for the WISPA Member WIKI Site.

 

Thanks in Advance 

 

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Re: [WISPA] You would think after 20 years we have this down.

2010-12-06 Thread Glenn Kelley 
I could not agree more.
Knowing that OSI model and following it - would really save many folks a ton of 
time. 


On Dec 5, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

>It’s across a wide variety of clients.  My guys always check layer1 before 
> they do much of anything.  We fixed two just yesterday which were bad patch 
> cables.
> 
> We always reference the following article when we bring a new guy on:
> 
> http://www.iphelp.ru/faq/24/ch16lev1sec1.html
> 
> I have seen guys spend hours troubleshooting configurations that have not 
> changed in 6 months, do memory tests, and all sorts of things.  Then a jumper 
> is replaced and all is good.  My only point is start at the bottom of the OSI 
> model and work up if nothing has changed.
> 
> Justin
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> 
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 22:23:10 -0500
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] You would think after 20 years we have this down.
> 
> I don't think 1% accounts for those in my experience.  Wonder what you're 
> doing differently.
> 
> On Dec 5, 2010 9:52 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:
> > In my experience the first thing we always check is layer1.  80+% of our
> > logged tickets can be traced down to bad cat-5, bad crimps, poor patch
> > cables, etc.
> > 
> > Justin
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Rubens Kuhl 
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 00:35:52 -0200
> > To: WISPA General List 
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] You would think after 20 years we have this down.
> > 
> >> We recently upgraded a link and started having some packet loss.  Looking 
> >> at
> >> the manged switch, it was obvious the CMM on that tower was getting 
> >> ethernet
> >> errors.  Auto negotiation on GigE switches is flaky as hell.  This is the
> >> second time in a month I've had to hard code both ends.  This has occurred
> >> on both Cisco and HP Procurve hardware.
> > 
> > GigE auto-neg not working is a hint pointing to bad cable,
> > interference and/or defective hardware. Unlike Fast-Eth, Gig-E autoneg
> > works and you lose link quality monitoring by disabling it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rubens
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Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software

2010-12-06 Thread jp 
A good reason for some people to still use film. Or at least such people 
should print the photos they want to keep. For most people's volume, 
they could realistically file away their memory cards after they are 
full without deleting photos for less money than film if they need the 
instant gratification of seeing it on the LCD.

My grandmother now has a digital camera but no computer because she's 
not computer savvy. She puts the memory card into the 
self-service-machine at walmart, prints her photos, and gets her memory 
card back to use again. I haven't asks how she cleans/deletes pix from 
the card as I don't like to be the family tech support resource.


On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 08:44:08AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have a customer that decided to reload windows.  They now have no family 
> pictures left.  ug  I've told them to leave the computer off till I can 
> figure out how to get the files back.
> 
> My plan is to get a USB hard drive adapter and use that to pull off any pics 
> I can find.
> 
> Anyone know of a good program that'll dig through the drive and look for 
> jpgs and such?
> 
> thanks
> marlon

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Re: [WISPA] What happens when you build a wireless internet system and give service away? Look at this example.....

2010-12-06 Thread Brian Webster 
I'll go back and do some corollary work and see what I can come up with.



Brian


-Original Message-
From: David E. Smith [mailto:d...@mvn.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:55 AM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What happens when you build a wireless internet system
and give service away? Look at this example.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:46, Brian Webster
 wrote:
> For a period of almost two years the city of
> Philadelphia had free Wi-Fi access on the network EarthLink built. I had
the
> opportunity to look at adoption rates for broadband in that city after
this
> was available. The areas with the lowest adoption rates had free access to
> the internet at speeds of up to 6 meg.

Since you did the mapping, you seem like a good person to ask some of
the questions you bring up in your blog.

Do you have any data showing how the adoption of broadband relates to,
say, income levels? Even if the wi-fi is free, computers aren't.

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Re: [WISPA] What happens when you build a wireless internet system and give service away? Look at this example.....

2010-12-06 Thread David E. Smith 
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:46, Brian Webster
 wrote:
> For a period of almost two years the city of
> Philadelphia had free Wi-Fi access on the network EarthLink built. I had the
> opportunity to look at adoption rates for broadband in that city after this
> was available. The areas with the lowest adoption rates had free access to
> the internet at speeds of up to 6 meg.

Since you did the mapping, you seem like a good person to ask some of
the questions you bring up in your blog.

Do you have any data showing how the adoption of broadband relates to,
say, income levels? Even if the wi-fi is free, computers aren't.

David Smith
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[WISPA] What happens when you build a wireless internet system and give service away? Look at this example.....

2010-12-06 Thread Brian Webster 
I have started my hand at blogging. This first one talks about a unique
situation I ran in to last year that questions the whole concept of public
dollars for adoption programs. For a period of almost two years the city of
Philadelphia had free Wi-Fi access on the network EarthLink built. I had the
opportunity to look at adoption rates for broadband in that city after this
was available. The areas with the lowest adoption rates had free access to
the internet at speeds of up to 6 meg. I was uniquely positioned to notice
this fact. Details and a map are in the blog. Food for thought..

 

http://brianwebsterconsulting.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/broadband-adoption-is
sues/

 



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Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower

2010-12-06 Thread Cameron Crum 
It all has to do with the slope of the approach and take-off from a runway.
If you were directly in the path of the runway, then you'd probably need a
study to determine if the tower presents a hazard to air navigation, but at
10 miles, even if you were in-line, at 100 feet, I'd say you are probably
not going to be required to light and mark. The radio station probably
painted the red and white as a CYA measure, or they just didn't know the
regs. As for painting all white...who the hell knows.

Cameron

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Forbes Mercy
wrote:

>  I have a 100 foot guyed tower on top of a hill, it was previously an FM
> Radio station, they moved their site,  sold us the site, but continue to use
> this site for STL's.  Since then I've added the Fire Department and a low
> power radio station plus my own equipment.  The tower was never lighted but
> was red and white paint.  When the FM moved off it they painted it white.
> Can you tell me the purpose of why they painted it and how, especially being
> <10 miles from an approach why we don't have to light it?
>
> Thanks,
> Forbes
>
>
> On 12/3/2010 4:42 PM, Christopher Hair wrote:
>
>  Thanks for all the input.   I found this document on the FAA website
> about Obstruction Marking and Lighting if anyone is interested for future
> reference . Its dated 2007.
>
>
>
>
>
> *53. POLES, TOWERS, AND SIMILAR SKELETAL*
>
> *STRUCTURES*
>
> The following standards apply to radio and television
>
> towers, supporting structures for overhead
>
> transmission lines, and similar structures.
>
> *a**. Top Mounted Obstruction Light.*
>
> *1. Structures 150 Feet (46m) AGL or Less**. *Two
>
> or more steady burning (L-810) lights should be
>
> installed in a manner to ensure an unobstructed view of
>
> one or more lights by a pilot.
>
> *2**. Structures Exceeding 150 Feet (46m) AGL.*
>
> At least one red flashing (L-864) beacon should be
>
> installed in a manner to ensure an unobstructed view of
>
> one or more lights by a pilot.
>
> *3**. Appurtenances 40 Feet (12m) or Less. *If a
>
> rod, antenna, or other appurtenance 40 feet (12m) or
>
> less in height is incapable of supporting a red flashing
>
> beacon, then it may be placed at the base of the
>
> appurtenance. If the mounting location does not allow
>
> unobstructed viewing of the beacon by a pilot, then
>
> additional beacons should be added.
>
> *4**. Appurtenances Exceeding 40 Feet (12m). *If a
>
> rod, antenna, or other appurtenance exceeding 40 feet
>
> (12m) in height is incapable of supporting a red
>
> flashing beacon, a supporting mast with one or more
>
> beacons should be installed adjacent to the
>
> appurtenance. Adjacent installations should not
>
> exceed the height of the appurtenance and be within 40
>
> feet (12m) of the tip to allow the pilot an unobstructed
>
> view of at least one beacon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Friday, December 03, 2010 12:43 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Question about beacon lights rules on a tower
>
>
>
> Helicopters fly at night and in the worst visibility conditions. They fly
> slow and hover. If there is a particular vector or direction that an antenna
> blocks the visibility of the beacon light it can cause these types of
> accidents. A helicopter would linger in a blind spot of the obstructed tower
> light much longer than a plane would and depending on their direction of
> flight could be in the blind spot for their whole flight.
>
>
>
> I too was a lighting compliance expert for a tower company. I filed
> hundreds of these applications and had the software to do advanced studies
> near airports that had precision instrument approaches.  Many people do not
> realize that when they construct a 190 or so  tower that the crane will be
> taller than 200ft during construction. You are required to file for a
> clearance for that crane to exceed the 200ft height even if it is temporary.
> While they can’t do anything to you if you don’t file, your insurance
> carrier will not touch any payout on a claim if it is discovered you did not
> do the proper paperwork. For liability reasons people want to see that
> letter from the FAA saying that it is not a hazard to navigation.
>
>
>
> Another big topic that most people do not realize is that you are also
> required to run your towers through your state DOT office (They all have an
> airspace group). They also have the authority to require you to light a
> tower. Normally the FAA will notify the proper state when you file for a
> site, but that does not absolve you of your requirement to make sure it has
> been done. I had a tower in the state of Washington where the FAA said no
> problem but the state DOT required us to light it. It was in a mountain pass
> along I-90. Their reasoning was that planes will fly below the cloud cover
> and follow the valley often with low clearances. They fel

Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

2010-12-06 Thread Optimum Wireless Services 
Never heard of silversplash but, I'll google it. 

I thought of implementing it myself with php and apache. Don't know how
but, have a slight idea. I don't want to re-invent the wheel and the
system I would use should be customizable.


On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:26 -0500, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> Look at silversplash by silverlining. It is open source and is purpose  
> built for this.
> 
> Jerry Richardson
> Sent Mobile
> 
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:24 AM, "Optimum Wireless Services" 
>   > wrote:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
> > not then, please apologize.
> >
> > I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
> > service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
> > free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
> > advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
> > past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
> > this for all the pages.
> >
> > I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
> > the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.
> >
> > I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
> > addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even  
> > have
> > pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.
> >
> > Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.
> >
> > Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advanced for your help.
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

2010-12-06 Thread Jerry Richardson 
Look at silversplash by silverlining. It is open source and is purpose  
built for this.

Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile

On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:24 AM, "Optimum Wireless Services" 
 wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
> not then, please apologize.
>
> I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
> service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
> free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
> advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
> past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
> this for all the pages.
>
> I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
> the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.
>
> I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
> addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even  
> have
> pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.
>
> Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.
>
> Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

2010-12-06 Thread Jason Hensley 
I would second the Mikrotik option.  Very easy and very customizable. 


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:59 AM
To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

Mikrotik Hotspot offers everything you are looking for.  Rotates 
advertisements, has walled-garden, etc.

On 12/6/2010 8:23 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
> not then, please apologize.
>
> I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
> service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
> free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
> advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
> past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
> this for all the pages.
>
> I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
> the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.
>
> I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
> addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even have
> pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.
>
> Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.
>
> Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

2010-12-06 Thread Scott Reed 
Mikrotik Hotspot offers everything you are looking for.  Rotates 
advertisements, has walled-garden, etc.

On 12/6/2010 8:23 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
> not then, please apologize.
>
> I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
> service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
> free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
> advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
> past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
> this for all the pages.
>
> I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
> the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.
>
> I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
> addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even have
> pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.
>
> Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.
>
> Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
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[WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

2010-12-06 Thread Optimum Wireless Services 
Hello.

I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
not then, please apologize.

I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
this for all the pages. 

I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.

I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even have
pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.

Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.

Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?

Thanks in advanced for your help.




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