Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-02-02 Thread St. Louis Broadband
When I had my dial-up service in the 90's I had a grandma cancel her
grandsons account.

She said the reason for her cancellation was the fact that I was running
porno on my Internet .

Oh, well .

 

~V~

 

From: Glenn Kelley [mailto:gl...@hostmedic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:58 PM
To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child
porn

 

Victoria 

 

I personally blame Al Gore. 

 

WHY DID HE NOT INVENT A CHILD PORN TRACKER SYSTEM?  when he invented the
Internet?

 

LOL

 

On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:





Same thing here from CNET:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG

Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data
and email.

Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .

The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
WISPs will exist in the next few years.

 

 

Victoria Proffer - President/CEO

 file:///\\www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.ShowMeBroadband.com

 file:///\\www.StLouisBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com

 http://farmingtonforum.com/ www.FarmingtonForum.com

314-974-5600

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child
porn

Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that

way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:

 The following information is offered for your personal use only. It
contains no

 added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any
machinery

 that also processes eggs or nuts.

 




*

 

 House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would
force

 companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat
child

 pornography.

 

 Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should
be

 forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to
help

 combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill
requiring

 they do so for two years...

 

 LINK:


http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/139945-smith-companies-
must-save-more-data-to-combat-child-porn

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child porn

2011-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
You should have told her you could turn off the free porno.

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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:10 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

 When I had my dial-up service in the 90’s I had a grandma cancel her
 grandsons account.

 She said the reason for her cancellation was the fact that I was running
 porno on my Internet …

 Oh, well …



 ~V~



 *From:* Glenn Kelley [mailto:gl...@hostmedic.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:58 PM
 *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat
 child porn



 Victoria



 I personally blame Al Gore.



 WHY DID HE NOT INVENT A CHILD PORN TRACKER SYSTEM?  when he invented the
 Internet?



 LOL



 On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:22 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:



 Same thing here from CNET:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXGhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html

 Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data
 and email.

 Nice if you’re a big ILEC and have endless funds …

 The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
 WISPs will exist in the next few years.





 *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 www.ShowMeBroadband.com

 www.StLouisBroadband.com

 www.FarmingtonForum.com http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
 Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat
 child porn

 Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that

 way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:

  The following information is offered for your personal use only. It
 contains no

  added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any
 machinery

  that also processes eggs or nuts.

 

 
 *

 

  House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would
 force

  companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat
 child

  pornography.

 

  Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should
 be

  forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to
 help

  combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill
 requiring

  they do so for two years...

 

  LINK:

  
 http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/139945-smith-companies-must-save-more-data-to-combat-child-porn
 

 

 

 
 ***

 

 

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[WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Nick
I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of 
traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and 
1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a 
RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or 
Foundry.

Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that 
will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're 
in the $20k-$40k range.

Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any 
firewall or filtering on this device.



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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have to say I had an expensive cisco router that routed my entire network. 
Due to a lightning strike I was in a bind to replace it and didn't have 12K on 
hand to buy another one. After some thought (not much because time was of the 
essence) I went with mikrotik. Everything I have works better. Even to the 
point that customers noticed a difference  My ping times were greatly reduced 
and some small issues I was having before disappeared.  

Just my 2 cents. 

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Nick lists-wi...@atomsplash.com wrote:

 I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of 
 traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and 
 1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a 
 RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or 
 Foundry.
 
 Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that 
 will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're 
 in the $20k-$40k range.
 
 Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any 
 firewall or filtering on this device.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
How much real throughput do they need?  Any idea of the average packet size?

 

You could use an ImageStream Rebel router for a WHOLE LOT less than the
Cisco:

 

http://www.imagestream.com/Rebel.html

 

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106

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Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:16 PM
To: us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

 

I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of
traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and
1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a
RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or
Foundry.

Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that
will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're
in the $20k-$40k range.

Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any
firewall or filtering on this device.




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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Matt
 How much real throughput do they need?  Any idea of the average packet size?

 You could use an ImageStream Rebel router for a WHOLE LOT less than the
 Cisco:

 http://www.imagestream.com/Rebel.html

Does the Rebel support 10GE interfaces?



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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Scott Reed
Would they accept ImageStream?   They are a vendor member of WISPA and 
have good pricing.

On 2/2/2011 12:16 PM, Nick wrote:
 I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of
 traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and
 1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a
 RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or
 Foundry.

 Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that
 will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're
 in the $20k-$40k range.

 Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any
 firewall or filtering on this device.


 
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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Nick
They need to run up to 1Gbps. ATT is installing a 1Gbps connection. 
Realistically I don't think they'll use that all of the time, probably 
in the 500-750Mbps range. No clue on average packet size.


On 2/2/2011 10:57 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:


How much real throughput do they need?  Any idea of the average packet 
size?


You could use an ImageStream Rebel router for a WHOLE LOT less than 
the Cisco:


http://www.imagestream.com/Rebel.html

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106



*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Nick

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:16 PM
*To:* us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of
traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and
1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a
RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or
Foundry.

Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that
will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're
in the $20k-$40k range.

Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any
firewall or filtering on this device.



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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Cameron Kilton
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/j-series/


Thanks,
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Midcoast Internet Solutions
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c...@midcoast.com
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On 2/2/2011 2:18 PM, Nick wrote:
   They need to run up to 1Gbps. ATT is installing a 1Gbps connection.
 Realistically I don't think they'll use that all of the time, probably
 in the 500-750Mbps range. No clue on average packet size.

 On 2/2/2011 10:57 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

 How much real throughput do they need? Any idea of the average packet
 size?

 You could use an ImageStream Rebel router for a WHOLE LOT less than
 the Cisco:

 http://www.imagestream.com/Rebel.html

 Regards,

 Jeff
 ImageStream Sales Manager
 800-813-5123 x106

 

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Nick
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:16 PM
 *To:* us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

 I have a customer that needs a router capable of routing up to 1Gbps of
 traffic - ATT Ethernet handoff. Should only really need 1 WAN port and
 1 LAN port. What's everyone else using? They have shunned the idea of a
 RouterMaxx or PowerRouter. They prefer to stick with Cisco, Adtran, or
 Foundry.

 Cisco doesn't seem too cost effective; the only thing I've found that
 will run that much traffic is a 7206 with a G2. Anything newer and we're
 in the $20k-$40k range.

 Should I be looking at Layer 3 switches? They shouldn't need any
 firewall or filtering on this device.


 
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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
No, but we can populate them in our bigger routers.  We don't offer
wirespeed yet, but we can push multiple Gigs.

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

 

 How much real throughput do they need?  Any idea of the average packet
size?

 You could use an ImageStream Rebel router for a WHOLE LOT less than the
 Cisco:

 http://www.imagestream.com/Rebel.html

Does the Rebel support 10GE interfaces?




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[WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot

2011-02-02 Thread Kevin Sullivan
Hello,
We've been working on building a remote monitoring/remote reboot board for 
awhile now, mostly for internal use. It runs on 9.5-55v, so we are going to be 
using it at some of our solar sites to monitor battery voltage and send alerts 
if they aren't charging, as well as the capability to remotely reboot radios. 
Oh, and it keeps track of temperature and turns a fan on if it gets too warm/ 
sends alerts at high enough temps.
Anyway, we've got a couple out there, and we want to make another fifteen. 
However, it looks like it'll be WAY cheaper if we order 100... so we were 
wondering if anyone else would be interested in buying some. I think it'll be 
around $100 in quantity. If anyone is interested, I can send the data sheet and 
screencaps of the web interface. 

Thanks!
Kevin


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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for VoIP Termination services.

2011-02-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
Josh - who do you use for your actual phone service? 

On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 We use Intrado for e911
 
 We have an individual account with Gafachi for testing and such.  Pretty 
 slick and great if you're just starting out.  The price is a bit higher so if 
 you're doing heavy volume you'll want to switch.
 
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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 E911 is typically done with the originating provider, but there are other 
 E911 companies.
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 On 1/9/2011 12:20 PM, Christopher Hair wrote:
 Any recommendations for providers that  offer VoIP Termination   E911. 
 Shopping around!
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for VoIP Termination services.

2011-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Termination, origination, switching, application?  Different companies for
different services.

Unless you want the wholesaler?
On Feb 2, 2011 11:04 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
 Josh - who do you use for your actual phone service?

 On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 We use Intrado for e911

 We have an individual account with Gafachi for testing and such. Pretty
slick and great if you're just starting out. The price is a bit higher so if
you're doing heavy volume you'll want to switch.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
 E911 is typically done with the originating provider, but there are other
E911 companies.
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 1/9/2011 12:20 PM, Christopher Hair wrote:
 Any recommendations for providers that offer VoIP Termination  E911.
Shopping around!


 Thanks in Advance


 Chris








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