Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

2011-02-11 Thread Marco Coelho 
I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my congresspeople,
however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message board.  I am a
true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market.  I very
strongly don't believe in socialism.

I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the moment have a
clue as to what they are doing.They're more after sound bites and speech
fodder.

wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some steps that
would really help make some changes and mature this industry..  I'll try to
put some of those down and post them up early next week.

Marco



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:

>  Marco,
>
> Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting way that may
> cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously. If you would
> like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes it's points in
> a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that.
>
> I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need to go to
> make elected officials aware that "all wireless isn't mobile". They seem
> unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that mobile broadband
> is (like Matt Larsen says) "toy broadband".
>
> Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together and
> get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND out to
> Congress?
>
> jack
>
>
>
> On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:
>
>
> Here's some more:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama
>
>
> my response:
>
> Dear Mr. President,
>
> I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company.
> I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13
> years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported areas.
> So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers
> but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess
> things up.
>
> Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's
> still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We may even do
> pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased with the peoples
> monies and squandered.
>
> Leave business to the business people. We don't want your money, it came
> with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio spectrum, also an
> asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the unlicensed
> bands that us WISPs use.
>
> Marco Coelho
> President,
> Argon Technologies Inc.
>
>
> --
> Marco C. Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
> POB 875
> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 903-455-5036
>
>
>
>
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Marco C. Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband

2011-02-11 Thread Fred Goldstein 
At 2/11/2011 01:06 AM, JohnS wrote:
>  The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make
> > it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all
> > broadband providers!
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213
> >
> > Bret
> >
>
>
>We should comment. The comment should be that we do not support any
>form of broadband subsidies and that USF should be eliminated. It is a
>New Internet Tax. We should all call it that and get people riled up
>about it.

The FCC can't eliminate USF entirely.  It is statutory:  The Telecom 
Act of 1996 established USF and called for it to keep rural telephone 
rates comparable to urban rates.  Because rural states get two 
senators just like big states, they have undue influence on subsidy 
legislation.  Ted Stevens of Alaska was a leader here; he later 
wanted the FCC to outlaw VoIP, since it threatened the costly toll 
minutes that paid into USF.

The new proposal makes matters worse, though, since it keeps existing 
USF intact and adds yet another fund to allow one provider per place 
to provide subsidized Internet access.  I expect that it will usually 
be the ILEC, getting more money to compete with WISPs.

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[WISPA] $25,0000 FCC TDWR Enforcement Action

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Unger 

An FCC announcement today reported that FCC enforcement action led to a Utah 
company that was interfering with the TDWR system that serves the Salt Lake 
City 
International Airport.

The company was fined $25,000 for

1. Using equipment on an frequency that the equipment was not certified to 
operate on.

2. Running excessive power.

3. Disabling DFS.

4. Repeatedly and willfully violating the Communications Act and Part 15 rules.









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Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks"
Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-11 Thread Jeremy Parr 
On 8 February 2011 12:17, Tom DeReggi  wrote:

> Are you sure on that?
>
> I'm not an expert on CISCO, and could have it wrong but, I had thought
>
> Known fact... Cisco 3550 (enterprise OS ver)  was an industry standard Gig
> router that also did OSPF and BGP, although now End of Lifed..
> It was easy and affordable to find on used market.  It didn't support newer
> things like MPLS packet sizes and such.
>
> However, I thought the 3560 was actually a newer model but also a "scaled
> down" version of the 3550 router. Either having less processing power or
> RAM
> limits.
> Therefore not very advantageous to get a 3560.
>
> I then thought the 3750 (enterprise OS ver) switch was the current day
> product equivellent to the 3550 spec, good for BGP and OSPF, but better,
> for
> example using the smaller FC iconnectors nstead of SC connectors, and
> possibly support of newer Cisco supported protocols also.
>
> So my question is Is the 3560 really an equivellent of a 3750 minus
> stackwise?
>

Correct on the stacking. The 3750 and 3560 are the exact same switch, but
one has stacking capabilities. You can turn a 3560/3750 in to a full blown
router, OSPF, BGP etc, but you aren't going to hold any external BGP tables,
for sure. Loading different SDM templates will give you up to eight routed
interfaces.

The 3550 is getting really old now, and technically has a lower powered
processor than the 3560, but does do a better job of doing ingress/egress
limiting on switchports.



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Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

2011-02-11 Thread Drew Lentz 
Jack, this line stood out to me:
"Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together "

You know, I might be in the minority here, but I see great things with this.
The fact that there is more stimulus money coming out to support building a
wireless infrastructure in this country, to me, is phenomenal. By supporting
groups like WISPA and making sure your voice is heard at the congressional
level, maybe some of the money can make it into the right hands to tie
together networks, allowing existing provides to increase build-out, and
help this country move forward. If we don't band together to shed light on
the subject of what can be done with the existing providers, you're right,
money will go to new guys that don't have an existing business in more rural
locations, who need to keep it local. The more we get the word out that we
are present, available, and ready and willing to work with the powers that
be (whether it be the FCC, the congress men and women, or their designated
contractors), the better our voice sounds. Don't take this as a WISPA
commercial .. take it as a big bright shining sign that we need to now, more
than ever, collect ourselves and get our voice loud and proud where it
matters. If its done right, we will all benefit from it. Maybe I am giving
too much credit to our government, but maybe we all need to remember that
change starts with every single one of us. If we all take one step forward
towards fixing this instead of complaining about it, that's quite a few
steps.

-drew

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my congresspeople,
> however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message board.  I am a
> true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market.  I very
> strongly don't believe in socialism.
>
> I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the moment have a
> clue as to what they are doing.They're more after sound bites and speech
> fodder.
>
> wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some steps that
> would really help make some changes and mature this industry..  I'll try to
> put some of those down and post them up early next week.
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>
>>  Marco,
>>
>> Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting way that may
>> cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously. If you would
>> like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes it's points in
>> a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that.
>>
>> I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need to go to
>> make elected officials aware that "all wireless isn't mobile". They seem
>> unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that mobile broadband
>> is (like Matt Larsen says) "toy broadband".
>>
>> Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together and
>> get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND out to
>> Congress?
>>
>> jack
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:
>>
>>
>> Here's some more:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama
>>
>>
>> my response:
>>
>> Dear Mr. President,
>>
>> I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company.
>> I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13
>> years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported areas.
>> So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers
>> but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess
>> things up.
>>
>> Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's
>> still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We may even do
>> pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased with the peoples
>> monies and squandered.
>>
>> Leave business to the business people. We don't want your money, it came
>> with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio spectrum, also an
>> asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the unlicensed
>> bands that us WISPs use.
>>
>> Marco Coelho
>> President,
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marco C. Coelho
>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>> 
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>> Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks"
>> Serving the WISP, Networking and Telecom Communities since 
>> 1993www.ask-wi.com

Re: [WISPA] FCC Favors Shifting Rural Subsidies To Broadband

2011-02-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves 
We need to have the USF turned into a voucher credit system that the
end user can apply to what ever supplier they chose. Maybe its not
the best idea, but I do not feel I have heard of a better one. Better
for /the users/ not better for the I/CLECs and other
very vested interests.


On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Fred Goldstein  wrote:
> At 2/11/2011 01:06 AM, JohnS wrote:
>>  The FCC is looking for comments, so we all need to make
>> > it quite clear that the funds should be available for any and all
>> > broadband providers!
>> >
>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110207/tc_nf/77213
>> >
>> > Bret
>> >
>>
>>
>>We should comment. The comment should be that we do not support any
>>form of broadband subsidies and that USF should be eliminated. It is a
>>New Internet Tax. We should all call it that and get people riled up
>>about it.
>
> The FCC can't eliminate USF entirely.  It is statutory:  The Telecom
> Act of 1996 established USF and called for it to keep rural telephone
> rates comparable to urban rates.  Because rural states get two
> senators just like big states, they have undue influence on subsidy
> legislation.  Ted Stevens of Alaska was a leader here; he later
> wanted the FCC to outlaw VoIP, since it threatened the costly toll
> minutes that paid into USF.
>
> The new proposal makes matters worse, though, since it keeps existing
> USF intact and adds yet another fund to allow one provider per place
> to provide subsidized Internet access.  I expect that it will usually
> be the ILEC, getting more money to compete with WISPs.
>
>  --
>  Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
>  ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
>  +1 617 795 2701
>
>
>
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