[WISPA] vUnity DSL bonding service

[Chris Fabien]

Is anyone familiar with this provider? They are offering a service using a
bonding appliance that communicates over GRE tunnel to their equipment in a
datacenter to bond multiple DSL/cable lines into a bigger pipe. Seems to be
a fairly new company, has anyone worked with them or heard anything about
them? Seems similar to what SharedBand and Mushroom Networks offer but
their pricing and IP availability seem more geared toward ISP usage.

Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Daniel White]

The new SAF radio was the Freemile 24GHz - 100Mb FDX at a great price.

 

SAF also has a 24GHz UL version of the Lumina, which with a 56MHz Channel
and 256QAM can push 366Mbps FDX.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

 

I keep mixing those two.  Trango and SAF announced new stuff in Vegas for
the unlicensed 24ghz.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 21, 2012 9:59 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:

At 3/21/2012 09:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:




11ghz can do 2 foot from what I hear.  


Yes, in some locations at least, but he asked about 1 foot dishes.




But isn't an unlicensed 23 a good choice?


23 Ghz is licensed; 24 GHz is unlicensed.  Often the same basic radio is
sold for both purposes, just different frequencies and approvals.




On Mar 21, 2012 9:40 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:

At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:



Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size? 

 

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?

 





 

I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft)
that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because
the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely
reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.   

I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish,
(similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules
for 18 and 11.

 

 

I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 18 GHz
bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 6 foot dish at
6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band allows 33.5 dB gain in
some uncongested areas, but that still won't get you down to a foot.  23 GHz
only requires 33.5 dB.

Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a fast
enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher frequencies or free
space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.

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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Josh Luthman]

I keep mixing those two.  Trango and SAF announced new stuff in Vegas for
the unlicensed 24ghz.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 21, 2012 9:59 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:

>  At 3/21/2012 09:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> 11ghz can do 2 foot from what I hear.
>
>
> Yes, in some locations at least, but he asked about 1 foot dishes.
>
> But isn't an unlicensed 23 a good choice?
>
>
> 23 Ghz is licensed; 24 GHz is unlicensed.  Often the same basic radio is
> sold for both purposes, just different frequencies and approvals.
>
> On Mar 21, 2012 9:40 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:
>  At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?
>
> Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?
>
>
>
>
> I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft)
> that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because
> the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and
> safely reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.
> I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish,
> (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules
> for 18 and 11.
>
>
>
> I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 18
> GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 6 foot
> dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band allows 33.5
> dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that still won't get you down to a
> foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.
>
> Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a fast
> enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher frequencies or free
> space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[wispawireless]

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Belkin-200ft-Multimode-ST-ST-Duplex-Fiber-Optic-Patch-Cable/517878.aspx



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From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:56:53 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?



Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz limited to minimum 2ft dish size? 

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed? 


I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft) that 
has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because the 
viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely 
reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth. 
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish, (similar 
beamwidth to 11G with 2ft). But just wanted to double check rules for 18 and 
11. 


Tom DeReggi 
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 




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From: Chuck Hogg 
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 

I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device. You can't 
reboot it. 

Regards, 
Chuck 



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer < victo...@stlbroadband.com 
> wrote: 






Can you set it on an auto-ping? 





Victoria Proffer 

STLWiMAX, LLC 

314-974-5600 





From: Brian Webster [mailto: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com ] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM 
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 






The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or 
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device. 




Thank You, 

Brian Webster 

www.wirelessmapping.com 

www.Broadband-Mapping.com 





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Behalf Of Victoria Proffer 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 



Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? 



i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer 



Victoria Proffer 

STLWiMAX, LLC 

314-974-5600 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ghering 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 



We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after 
a few mins.. 

Ryan 


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes < mhop...@indigowireless.com > 
wrote: 

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that 
regulation before. 

A few thoughts come to mind: 

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page 
for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it 
keeps you from having an outage. 

* Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside 
your shack. You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't 
have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. 

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just 
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a 
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? 




On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: 
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. 
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). 
> 
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening 
> without violating code? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> -- 
> 
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> 
> The Wired Road Authority 
> 
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr. 
> 
> Galax, VA 24333 
> 
> (276) 238-0049 (office) 
> 
> (276) 237-3890 (cell) 
> 
> tset...@thewiredroad.net 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Fred Goldstein]

At 3/21/2012 09:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


11ghz can do 2 foot from what I hear.


Yes, in some locations at least, but he asked about 1 foot dishes.


But isn't an unlicensed 23 a good choice?


23 Ghz is licensed; 24 GHz is unlicensed.  Often the same basic radio 
is sold for both purposes, just different frequencies and approvals.


On Mar 21, 2012 9:40 PM, "Fred Goldstein" 
<fgoldst...@ionary.com> wrote:

At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?





I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link 
(200 ft) that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G 
millimeterwave, because the viable mounting options are not stable 
enough to prevent sway and safely reliably support that tight of a 
narrow beamwidth.
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft 
dish, (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to 
double check rules for 18 and 11.




I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 
and 18 GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since 
that's a 6 foot dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 
GHz band allows 33.5 dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that 
still won't get you down to a foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.


Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a 
fast enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher 
frequencies or free space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.


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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Gino Villarini]

SAF Lumina 24 ghz unlicensed 350mbps fdx

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:39 PM, "wispawirel...@ics-il.net" 
 wrote:

> Some bands also have minimum distance requirements.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:56:53 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?
> 
> 
> 
> Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz limited to minimum 2ft dish size? 
> 
> Just wondering if 1ft was allowed? 
> 
> 
> I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft) 
> that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because 
> the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely 
> reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth. 
> I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish, 
> (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft). But just wanted to double check rules 
> for 18 and 11. 
> 
> 
> Tom DeReggi 
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc 
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Chuck Hogg 
> To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General List 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:23 AM 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 
> 
> I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device. You 
> can't reboot it. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Chuck 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer < 
> victo...@stlbroadband.com > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Can you set it on an auto-ping? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Victoria Proffer 
> 
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
> 
> 314-974-5600 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Brian Webster [mailto: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com ] 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM 
> To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; 'WISPA General List' 
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or 
> breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You, 
> 
> Brian Webster 
> 
> www.wirelessmapping.com 
> 
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
> Behalf Of Victoria Proffer 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM 
> To: 'WISPA General List' 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? 
> 
> 
> 
> i.e. 
> 
> strip   pstn > my computer 
> 
> 
> 
> Victoria Proffer 
> 
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
> 
> 314-974-5600 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Ryan Ghering 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 
> 
> 
> 
> We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
> outlets for my 
> Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically 
> after a few mins.. 
> 
> Ryan 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes < mhop...@indigowireless.com > 
> wrote: 
> 
> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that 
> regulation before. 
> 
> A few thoughts come to mind: 
> 
> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page 
> for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it 
> keeps you from having an outage. 
> 
> * Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside 
> your shack. You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't 
> have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. 
> 
> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just 
> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a 
> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: 
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. 
>> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 
>> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). 
>> 
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening 
>> without violating code? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Troy Settle, Network Administrator 
>> 
>> The Wired Road Authority 
>> 
>> 1117 E. Stuart Dr. 
>> 
>> Galax, VA 24333 
>> 
>> (276) 238-0049 (office) 
>> 
>> (276) 237-3890 (cell) 
>> 
>> tset...@thewiredroad.net 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Ryan Ghering]

At 200 foot can you just run aerial fiber?? It would be the cheapest
solution..



On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

>  At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?
>
> Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?
>
>
>
>
> I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft)
> that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because
> the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and
> safely reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.
> I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish,
> (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules
> for 18 and 11.
>
>
>
> I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 18
> GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 6 foot
> dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band allows 33.5
> dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that still won't get you down to a
> foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.
>
> Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a fast
> enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher frequencies or free
> space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Josh Luthman]

11ghz can do 2 foot from what I hear.  But isn't an unlicensed 23 a good
choice?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 21, 2012 9:40 PM, "Fred Goldstein"  wrote:

>  At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?
>
> Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?
>
>
>
>
> I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft)
> that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because
> the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and
> safely reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.
> I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish,
> (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules
> for 18 and 11.
>
>
>
> I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 18
> GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 6 foot
> dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band allows 33.5
> dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that still won't get you down to a
> foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.
>
> Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a fast
> enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher frequencies or free
> space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.
> **
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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Fred Goldstein]

At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?





I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link 
(200 ft) that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G 
millimeterwave, because the viable mounting options are not stable 
enough to prevent sway and safely reliably support that tight of a 
narrow beamwidth.
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft 
dish, (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to 
double check rules for 18 and 11.




I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 
18 GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 
6 foot dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band 
allows 33.5 dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that still won't 
get you down to a foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.


Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a 
fast enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher 
frequencies or free space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.


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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[wispawireless]

Some bands also have minimum distance requirements.



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From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:56:53 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?



Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz limited to minimum 2ft dish size? 

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed? 


I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft) that 
has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because the 
viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely 
reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth. 
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish, (similar 
beamwidth to 11G with 2ft). But just wanted to double check rules for 18 and 
11. 


Tom DeReggi 
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 




- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hogg 
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 

I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device. You can't 
reboot it. 

Regards, 
Chuck 



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer < victo...@stlbroadband.com 
> wrote: 






Can you set it on an auto-ping? 





Victoria Proffer 

STLWiMAX, LLC 

314-974-5600 





From: Brian Webster [mailto: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com ] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM 
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 






The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or 
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device. 




Thank You, 

Brian Webster 

www.wirelessmapping.com 

www.Broadband-Mapping.com 





From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM 
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 



Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? 



i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer 



Victoria Proffer 

STLWiMAX, LLC 

314-974-5600 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ghering 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages 



We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after 
a few mins.. 

Ryan 


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes < mhop...@indigowireless.com > 
wrote: 

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that 
regulation before. 

A few thoughts come to mind: 

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page 
for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it 
keeps you from having an outage. 

* Re-check code? I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside 
your shack. You don't have a sink or other water nearby. I don't 
have GFCI outlets in my office. Maybe I'm missing something here. 

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just 
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a 
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI? 




On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote: 
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. 
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). 
> 
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening 
> without violating code? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator 
> 
> The Wired Road Authority 
> 
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr. 
> 
> Galax, VA 24333 
> 
> (276) 238-0049 (office) 
> 
> (276) 237-3890 (cell) 
> 
> tset...@thewiredroad.net 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Freylekhman, Alex]

Tom
Why can't you use 24GHz unlicensed for that path?

Alex


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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 03:56 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?


I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft) that 
has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because the 
viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely 
reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish, (similar 
beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules for 18 and 
11.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Hogg
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General 
List
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You 
can't reboot it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer 
mailto:victo...@stlbroadband.com>> wrote:
Can you set it on an auto-ping?

Victoria Proffer
STLWiMAX, LLC
314-974-5600

From: Brian Webster 
[mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General 
List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or 
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

i.e.
strip   pstn > my computer

Victoria Proffer
STLWiMAX, LLC
314-974-5600

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
outlets for my
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after 
a few mins..

Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote:
You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?

On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
>
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> Wireless@wispa.org
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[WISPA] Licensed 1ft dish?

[Tom DeReggi]

Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size? 

Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?


I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft) that 
has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because the 
viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and safely 
reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.   
I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish, (similar 
beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules for 18 and 
11.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Hogg 
  To: victo...@stlbroadband.com ; WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages


  I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You 
can't reboot it.

  Regards,
  Chuck



  On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer 
 wrote:

Can you set it on an auto-ping?



Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC

314-974-5600



From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages



The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or 
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset device.



Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages



Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?



i.e. 

strip   pstn > my computer



Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC

314-974-5600



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages



We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI 
outlets for my 
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically 
after a few mins..

Ryan

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
regulation before.

A few thoughts come to mind:

* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.

* Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
>
> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> without violating code?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>
> The Wired Road Authority
>
> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>
> Galax, VA 24333
>
> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>
> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>
> tset...@thewiredroad.net
>
>
>

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