I keep mixing those two.  Trango and SAF announced new stuff in Vegas for
the unlicensed 24ghz.

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On Mar 21, 2012 9:59 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com> wrote:

>  At 3/21/2012 09:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> 11ghz can do 2 foot from what I hear.
>
>
> Yes, in some locations at least, but he asked about 1 foot dishes.
>
> But isn't an unlicensed 23 a good choice?
>
>
> 23 Ghz is licensed; 24 GHz is unlicensed.  Often the same basic radio is
> sold for both purposes, just different frequencies and approvals.
>
> On Mar 21, 2012 9:40 PM, "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com> wrote:
>  At 3/21/2012 03:56 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Are both 18Ghz and 11Ghz  limited to minimum 2ft dish size?
>
> Just wondering if 1ft was allowed?
>
>
>
>
> I know, some might ask "why"? Because its for a really short link (200 ft)
> that has to be 350mb+ FDX, but dont want to use 60G millimeterwave, because
> the viable mounting options are not stable enough to prevent sway and
> safely reliably support that tight of a narrow beamwidth.
> I'm pretty sure, I'll end up doing this in 23G, which allows 1ft dish,
> (similar beamwidth to 11G with 2ft).  But just wanted to double check rules
> for 18 and 11.
>
>
>
> I don't think you can do it.  47CFR 101.115 says that both the 11 and 18
> GHz bands need 38 dB antenna gain, same as 6 GHz.  Since that's a 6 foot
> dish at 6 GHz, it would be 2 feet at 18 GHz.  The 11 GHz band allows 33.5
> dB gain in some uncongested areas, but that still won't get you down to a
> foot.  23 GHz only requires 33.5 dB.
>
> Alex has a good idea to look at 24 GHz unlicensed, if you can find a fast
> enough radio.  Ohterwise, if you can't deal with higher frequencies or free
> space optics, stick with your instinct and go with 23 GHz.
>
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