Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[David Weddell]

Hi All,

I want to echo the message that Jeff just delivered. WIPSA is making an
impact on Washington DC and it is even being talked about through several
lobbying groups about the impact we are having in DC. I serve on the
Governor's Task Force for Broadband in Appalachia in the State of Ohio and
we had a meeting yesterday in Columbus. A representative from the Governor's
office was there and also the main lobbyist that represents Connected Nation
was there to speak to us. In his presentation, he specifically mentioned the
impact WISPA is having in Washington with the USF Funding discussions as
well as what has been accomplished in the TV White Space area. I was proud
to say that my company is a member of WISPA and I realized how much I need
to learn about where we are (WISPA) in policies and progress. A big thank
you needs to go out again to Jack Unger, Steve Coran, Forbes Mercy, Rick
Harnish and the MANY others that have been making trips to DC for many
years. 

I was also on a conference call with Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown last week as
he is looking for ways to help fund projects in Ohio for WISP groups. I am
very encouraged and impressed that our WISPA dues are being returned to us
in amazing ways. Thank you to the Board and the FCC Committee because we, as
WISPA, ARE making a difference. It takes times and space to turn big ships
and results are shown in numbers. If you know ANY WISP out there that is NOT
a  member yet, encourage them to join, submit their maps to the various
mapping authorities in your state and file your Federal forms. If you want
to be treated as a professional, we must act like professionals and that is
the BIGGEST improvement I have seen in the whole WISPA organization. 

It was great to attend ISP America in Orlando and see the maturity of our
organization as there were many sessions on "building your business"
including insurance discussions, accounting practices and CRM tools. I am
proud to be a WISPA member and I pledge to get MORE involved to help support
the efforts in Washington DC. Thanks again to all of the groups that went to
Washington this week to represent WISPA. 

David Weddell
Cue Band, LLC
www.cueband.com

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:15 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'; memb...@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

Hi All,

I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great group
of folks, spreading the WISP message!

We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!

Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
a AP from the UP.  

My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
incredibly clear.

Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.  You
owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort to
be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
Advocacy Day.

Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
Sales Manager, Blue Technology
574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
574-220-7826 (Cell)
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Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

[Layne Sisk]

I would echo the other sentiments here.  My experience is that Paypal is 
terrible to deal with if you have a chargeback or dispute.  Glad you have had a 
good experience with them, but they are very one sided.  They are owned by Ebay 
and thus care very little about vendors and much more about the buyers.  We had 
a case where we had proof the customer had received the product, they disputed 
the charges and Paypal refunded and refused to even look at our proof.  IPPay 
is easy to deal with, very helpful, and their APIs are easy to program against. 
 Just my .02.

 

Layne Sisk

ServerPlus

801.426.8283, ext 102

 

   

 

 

   

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert Canary
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 1:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

 

I have had only good dealings with PayPal.  Yes a little more expensive than 
others, but their API has allowed me to integrate some very gnarly programming 
into our back end.  They have always helped with issues, both as a buyer and a 
seller.

Robert Canary
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
(866) 594-0786 Fax
(270) 955-0362 Voice



+Infinity!! 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

From: Blair Davis  

Date: 5/16/2012 3:14:15 PM

To: WISPA General List  

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

 

PayPal is a nightmare for the merchant if the client is not honest.

They are not a bank nor regulated as one, last I recall.

And if you do deal with them, take precautions.

setup a separate bank account to deal with them in a different bank than you 
use for your main business accounts and never leave any real money in it that 
you are not willing to loose.

And last of all, they can't be trusted, nor can you get a person on the phone 
to fix things when they mess them up.





On 5/16/2012 8:19 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: 

If u think PayPal rates are low... Then u have not seen what rates IP Pay 
offers... :)

 

The real benefit with IP Pay is that there is no finger pointing between 
multiple entities involved with credit card processing.

 

Pay pal is easy to sign up, easy to use, more expensive tan other 
optionsbut pain in the rear to deal with when u have  charge backs and 
other issues

Faisal


On May 16, 2012, at 2:37 AM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing 
 wrote:

Guys..

 

believe it or not... paypal's rates are really low if you're billing over 3,000 
USD a month 

AND as an organization like WISPA... someone can just call in and get 
negotiated rates using a promo code...

 

I did it for several organizations i was a part of!

 

WISPMon and IP Pay handle this for me.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

 

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[Chuck Hogg]

I also attended WISPA's Advocacy Day in Washington DC to inform our
senators and congressmen about our industry and who we are.  One resounding
message that was sent to me was that they didn't even know we exist in the
areas we serve.  They don't know what your coverage area is because many of
the WISPs have not participated in the broadband mapping for the NTIA's
mapping project.  They are prepared to hand out funding and spectrum to the
Verizon's, AT&T's, Rural ILEC's, and satellite providers because we are not
representing our industry in their mapping.  I have been successful because
of our mapping in blocking Exede and WildBlue from receiving subsidies to
provide internet access in areas that I already cover.  I know if
Windstream, AT&T, or any other ILEC were to receive millions of federal
subsidies to provide access to my customers that it would severely impact
our business.

I don't know about you guys, but these people are giving away TV's,
Laptops, etc. in my area to obtain subscribers.  The reason they are able
to do this is that they receive subsidies to provide the service, which
typically more than covers the cost of the subscriber's yearly services.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

> ** ** ** ** ** **
>
> It’s going to vary by state.  In general, participate in your state
> mapping project and complete your 477 form. 
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
> Sales Manager, Blue Technology
> 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
> 574-220-7826 (Cell)
> +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)
> 
>
>   --
>
> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2012 9:41 AM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Cc:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Washington** **DC Trip and PLEA
>
> ** **
>
> What maps?  Connected Nation?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite** 1337**
> Troy**, **OH** **45373
>
> On May 18, 2012 8:15 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great
> group
> of folks, spreading the WISP message!
>
> We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
> implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
> for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
> about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
> speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!
>
> Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
> technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
> the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
> a AP from the UP.
>
> My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
> national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
> If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
> incredibly clear.
>
> Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.
>  You
> owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort
> to
> be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
> key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
> Advocacy Day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> Sales Manager, Blue Technology
> 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
> 574-220-7826 (Cell)
> +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)
>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

It's going to vary by state.  In general, participate in your state mapping
project and complete your 477 form. 

 

Regards,

Jeff
Sales Manager, Blue Technology
574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
574-220-7826 (Cell)
+1 574-935-8484 (Int'l) 

  _  

From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:41 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

 

What maps?  Connected Nation?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On May 18, 2012 8:15 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

Hi All,

I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great group
of folks, spreading the WISP message!

We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!

Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
a AP from the UP.

My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
incredibly clear.

Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.  You
owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort to
be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
Advocacy Day.

Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
Sales Manager, Blue Technology
574-935-8484 x106   (US/Can)
574-220-7826 (Cell)
+1 574-935-8484   (Int'l)


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Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

[Cameron Crum]

IPPay and Authorize are both very easy to integrate into programming. I'd
save the money.

Cameron

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Robert Canary  wrote:

> I have had only good dealings with PayPal.  Yes a little more expensive
> than others, but their API has allowed me to integrate some very gnarly
> programming into our back end.  They have always helped with issues, both
> as a buyer and a seller.
>
> Robert Canary
> OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm
> (866) 594-0786 Fax
> (270) 955-0362 Voice
>
> --
>
>*+Infinity!! *
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Blair Davis 
> *Date:* 5/16/2012 3:14:15 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions
>
> PayPal is a nightmare for the merchant if the client is not honest.
>
> They are not a bank nor regulated as one, last I recall.
>
> And if you do deal with them, take precautions.
>
> setup a separate bank account to deal with them in a different bank than
> you use for your main business accounts and never leave any real money in
> it that you are not willing to loose.
>
> And last of all, they can't be trusted, nor can you get a person on the
> phone to fix things when they mess them up.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/16/2012 8:19 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> If u think PayPal rates are low... Then u have not seen what rates IP Pay
> offers... :)
>
> The real benefit with IP Pay is that there is no finger pointing between
> multiple entities involved with credit card processing.
>
> Pay pal is easy to sign up, easy to use, more expensive tan other
> optionsbut pain in the rear to deal with when u have  charge backs and
> other issues
>
> Faisal
>
> On May 16, 2012, at 2:37 AM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing <
> evdo.hs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Guys..
>
> believe it or not... paypal's rates are really low if you're billing over
> 3,000 USD a month
> AND as an organization like WISPA... someone can just call in and get
> negotiated rates using a promo code...
>
> I did it for several organizations i was a part of!
>
> WISPMon and IP Pay handle this for me.
>
> -
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>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[Josh Luthman]

What maps?  Connected Nation?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On May 18, 2012 8:15 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great
> group
> of folks, spreading the WISP message!
>
> We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
> implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
> for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
> about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
> speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!
>
> Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
> technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
> the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
> a AP from the UP.
>
> My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
> national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
> If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
> incredibly clear.
>
> Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.
>  You
> owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort
> to
> be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
> key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
> Advocacy Day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> Sales Manager, Blue Technology
> 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
> 574-220-7826 (Cell)
> +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[timothy steele]

if you can make an Asterisk script that will read Stats for you from a UBNT
AP. That is something i would want :)

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> You could almost scrip that with Asterisk.
>
>
>
> -
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "timothy steele" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:27:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method
>
>
> what do you guys think of a phone number you could all call and have
> someone remote in and check signals for you
> and this office was not competing with you obviously. is this something
> you guys would be interested in ?
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell < atrimm...@precisionds.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as
> an ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method
>
> Many android tablets have ethernet ports.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze < rku...@colusanet.com >
> wrote:
> > At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote:
> >>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal
> >>strength while on the customer's roof
> >
> > To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago
> > when I bought it. I've not seen anything come along that would replace
> it.
> >
> > It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run
> > an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it. Someone back then whipped up driver for
> > WinCE so that the Orinico card worked. (Lonnie) With that and a hand
> > held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm. It reads 802.11b only
> > of course. Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc. I
> > use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco. Climb onto the roof,
> > sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin
> > for various alternative antennas.
> >
> > What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an
> > Etnernet port. It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything
> > smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more
> > with wireless.
> >
> > Rk
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[Mike Hammett]

You could almost scrip that with Asterisk.



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- Original Message -
From: "timothy steele" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:27:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method


what do you guys think of a phone number you could all call and have someone 
remote in and check signals for you 
and this office was not competing with you obviously. is this something you 
guys would be interested in ? 


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell < atrimm...@precisionds.com > 
wrote: 


I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as an 
ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good. 

-Original Message- 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method 

Many android tablets have ethernet ports. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d
 

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze < rku...@colusanet.com > wrote: 
> At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote: 
>>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal 
>>strength while on the customer's roof 
> 
> To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago 
> when I bought it. I've not seen anything come along that would replace it. 
> 
> It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run 
> an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it. Someone back then whipped up driver for 
> WinCE so that the Orinico card worked. (Lonnie) With that and a hand 
> held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm. It reads 802.11b only 
> of course. Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc. I 
> use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco. Climb onto the roof, 
> sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin 
> for various alternative antennas. 
> 
> What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an 
> Etnernet port. It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything 
> smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more 
> with wireless. 
> 
> Rk 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[Chris Fabien]

Nope, don't have any need for a service like that.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM, timothy steele
 wrote:
> what do you guys think of a phone number you could all call and have someone
> remote in and check signals for you
> and this office was not competing with you obviously. is this something you
> guys would be interested in ?
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as
>> an ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method
>>
>> Many android tablets have ethernet ports.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze  wrote:
>> > At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote:
>> >>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal
>> >>strength while on the customer's roof
>> >
>> > To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago
>> > when I bought it.  I've not seen anything come along that would replace
>> > it.
>> >
>> > It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run
>> > an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it.  Someone back then whipped up driver for
>> > WinCE so that the Orinico card worked.  (Lonnie)  With that and a hand
>> > held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm.  It reads 802.11b only
>> > of course.  Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc.  I
>> > use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco.  Climb onto the roof,
>> > sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin
>> > for various alternative antennas.
>> >
>> > What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an
>> > Etnernet port.  It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything
>> > smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more
>> > with wireless.
>> >
>> > Rk
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[timothy steele]

what do you guys think of a phone number you could all call and have
someone remote in and check signals for you
and this office was not competing with you obviously. is this something you
guys would be interested in ?

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as
> an ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method
>
> Many android tablets have ethernet ports.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze  wrote:
> > At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote:
> >>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal
> >>strength while on the customer's roof
> >
> > To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago
> > when I bought it.  I've not seen anything come along that would replace
> it.
> >
> > It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run
> > an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it.  Someone back then whipped up driver for
> > WinCE so that the Orinico card worked.  (Lonnie)  With that and a hand
> > held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm.  It reads 802.11b only
> > of course.  Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc.  I
> > use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco.  Climb onto the roof,
> > sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin
> > for various alternative antennas.
> >
> > What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an
> > Etnernet port.  It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything
> > smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more
> > with wireless.
> >
> > Rk
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[Andy Trimmell]

I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as an 
ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

Many android tablets have ethernet ports.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze  wrote:
> At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote:
>>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal 
>>strength while on the customer's roof
>
> To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago 
> when I bought it.  I've not seen anything come along that would replace it.
>
> It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run 
> an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it.  Someone back then whipped up driver for 
> WinCE so that the Orinico card worked.  (Lonnie)  With that and a hand 
> held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm.  It reads 802.11b only 
> of course.  Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc.  I 
> use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco.  Climb onto the roof, 
> sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin 
> for various alternative antennas.
>
> What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an 
> Etnernet port.  It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything 
> smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more 
> with wireless.
>
> Rk
>
>
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[WISPA] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Hi All,

I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great group
of folks, spreading the WISP message!

We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!

Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
a AP from the UP.  

My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
incredibly clear.

Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.  You
owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort to
be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
Advocacy Day.

Regards,

Jeff


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Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

[Robert Canary]

I have had only good dealings with PayPal. Yes a little more expensive than 
others, but their API has allowed me to integrate some very gnarly programming 
into our back end. They have always helped with issues, both as a buyer and a 
seller. 

Robert Canary 
OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm 
(866) 594-0786 Fax 
(270) 955-0362 Voice 

- Original Message -

> 

> +Infinity!!

> ---Original Message---

> From: Blair Davis
> Date: 5/16/2012 3:14:15 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions
> PayPal is a nightmare for the merchant if the client is not honest.

> They are not a bank nor regulated as one, last I recall.

> And if you do deal with them, take precautions.

> setup a separate bank account to deal with them in a different bank
> than you use for your main business accounts and never leave any
> real money in it that you are not willing to loose.

> And last of all, they can't be trusted, nor can you get a person on
> the phone to fix things when they mess them up.

> On 5/16/2012 8:19 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

> If u think PayPal rates are low... Then u have not seen what rates IP
> Pay offers... :)

> The real benefit with IP Pay is that there is no finger pointing
> between multiple entities involved with credit card processing.

> Pay pal is easy to sign up, easy to use, more expensive tan other
> optionsbut pain in the rear to deal with when u have charge
> backs and other issues

> Faisal

> On May 16, 2012, at 2:37 AM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing <
> evdo.hs...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Guys..

> believe it or not... paypal's rates are really low if you're billing
> over 3,000 USD a month
> AND as an organization like WISPA... someone can just call in and get
> negotiated rates using a promo code...

> I did it for several organizations i was a part of!

> WISPMon and IP Pay handle this for me.

> -
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