Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios

2012-05-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I think the Pac Wireless would be cheaper for 1amp.  It's definitely
easier to mount.

I had problems in October/November with the camera on a Rocket M2 GPS.
 It's been just fine since December (to today, May).  It has been
running a 5.5beta since around this time, I believe.

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On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:
 As a previous poster mentioned, this feature on Nanostation M5 and M2 is
 called POE passthrough, and it has a checkbox to enable it on the AirOS web
 UI.

 This will let you power a 2nd 24V POE device from the Secondary port of
 the Nanostation, using a single POE supply.  I use the POE-24-1 (aka 24V
 1amp) supply from UBNT when powering 2 devices like this.  I've read other
 folks on the UBNT customer forum try powering more than 2 units from a
 single power supply, e.g. 2 Nanostations and then a 3rd device daisy-chained
 together, tho I believe UBNT doesn't support this.

 HOWEVER, do please note the POE passthrough feature on the Nanostation M's
 has been consistently problematic.  When I first tried to have an NSM5 power
 a 2nd access point 18months ago, I found that my NSM5's would commonly burn
 out a FET inside after ~1week operation, causing the POE enable switch to
 henceforth become stuck on regardless of firmware setting.  Sometimes this
 burn out event would put the NSM5 in a reboot loop until I reflashed it.

 More recently, it seems UBNT might have released a batch of NSM5 that
 actually brick themselves when you enable the POE passthrough, requiring an
 RMA.  I had just this happen to an NSM5 I bought in April.
 https://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?p=270549

 The suggested work-around, as mentioned above, is to swap the Main and
 Secondary ports on the Nanostation if you want to power a 2nd device, and
 not use firmware POE passthrough enable at all.

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 A good thing to know about the UBNT gear is if for some reason supplying
 PoE via the main port stops working, you can supply PoE via the
 secondary port whether or not the PoE passthrough option is enabled.

 Greg

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[WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-05-30 Thread Shaddi Hasan
tl;dr: Please take my survey about WISPs! It's quick and anonymous;
you'll help science, and you might win a $100 Amazon gift card! SURVEY
LINK --- http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

Hello!

My name is Shaddi, and I'm a graduate student at UC Berkeley in the
TIER research group (http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu).

We're conducting a research study on the network management practices
and challenges faced by WISPs. Our study's goal is to develop an
understanding of the network management practices and challenges of
WISPs in order to guide research towards making WISPs simpler to
manage.

Our study has two parts. The first is a survey (which should take
about 5-10 minutes). Every question in our survey is optional, and
best estimates are fine. After completing the survey, you may
volunteer to participate in a completely optional follow-up phone
interview, which should take 30-45 minutes.

After completing the survey, you may provide your email address to be
entered into a drawing for one of three $100 Amazon.com gift cards.
Those who complete a follow-up interview will be entered into a
separate drawing for one of two additional $100 Amazon.com gift cards.

Here's what I promise:
1) This survey is completely anonymous, though if you choose to
provide your name and/or your organization's name, I won't share it
with anyone.
2) If I publish data from this study, I will only report aggregate statistics.
3) I will only share the raw data from the study with my research
advisor, Prof. Eric Brewer.

Here's the link to the survey:
http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me either directly or on-list.

Thanks!
Shaddi
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Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-05-30 Thread Brough Turner

Hi Shaddi,

As an additional inducement, you might offer to send copies of whatever 
paper or report comes out of your research.  I know I'd be interested in 
reading such a report


Thanks,

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On 5/30/12 12:15 PM, Shaddi Hasan wrote:

tl;dr: Please take my survey about WISPs! It's quick and anonymous;
you'll help science, and you might win a $100 Amazon gift card! SURVEY
LINK ---  http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

Hello!

My name is Shaddi, and I'm a graduate student at UC Berkeley in the
TIER research group (http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu).

We're conducting a research study on the network management practices
and challenges faced by WISPs. Our study's goal is to develop an
understanding of the network management practices and challenges of
WISPs in order to guide research towards making WISPs simpler to
manage.

Our study has two parts. The first is a survey (which should take
about 5-10 minutes). Every question in our survey is optional, and
best estimates are fine. After completing the survey, you may
volunteer to participate in a completely optional follow-up phone
interview, which should take 30-45 minutes.

After completing the survey, you may provide your email address to be
entered into a drawing for one of three $100 Amazon.com gift cards.
Those who complete a follow-up interview will be entered into a
separate drawing for one of two additional $100 Amazon.com gift cards.

Here's what I promise:
1) This survey is completely anonymous, though if you choose to
provide your name and/or your organization's name, I won't share it
with anyone.
2) If I publish data from this study, I will only report aggregate statistics.
3) I will only share the raw data from the study with my research
advisor, Prof. Eric Brewer.

Here's the link to the survey:
http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me either directly or on-list.

Thanks!
Shaddi
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Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-05-30 Thread Rick Harnish
Shaddi,

I sent it out as an announcement email, which will go out to every email
address that is subscribed to a WISPA mailing list.  This will include
Members and Non-Members.  WISPA would like to have more detailed information
from the survey than you will be making public.  We thank you for doing this
and hope we can work together.

Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
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WISPA
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

tl;dr: Please take my survey about WISPs! It's quick and anonymous; you'll
help science, and you might win a $100 Amazon gift card! SURVEY LINK
--- http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

Hello!

My name is Shaddi, and I'm a graduate student at UC Berkeley in the TIER
research group (http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu).

We're conducting a research study on the network management practices and
challenges faced by WISPs. Our study's goal is to develop an understanding
of the network management practices and challenges of WISPs in order to
guide research towards making WISPs simpler to manage.

Our study has two parts. The first is a survey (which should take about 5-10
minutes). Every question in our survey is optional, and best estimates are
fine. After completing the survey, you may volunteer to participate in a
completely optional follow-up phone interview, which should take 30-45
minutes.

After completing the survey, you may provide your email address to be
entered into a drawing for one of three $100 Amazon.com gift cards.
Those who complete a follow-up interview will be entered into a separate
drawing for one of two additional $100 Amazon.com gift cards.

Here's what I promise:
1) This survey is completely anonymous, though if you choose to provide your
name and/or your organization's name, I won't share it with anyone.
2) If I publish data from this study, I will only report aggregate
statistics.
3) I will only share the raw data from the study with my research advisor,
Prof. Eric Brewer.

Here's the link to the survey:
http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me either directly or
on-list.

Thanks!
Shaddi
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Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-05-30 Thread Shaddi Hasan
I'd be happy to do so; after I've compiled all the results I'll put
together a report to send out to WISPA.

Thanks!
Shaddi

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Brough Turner broughtur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Shaddi,

 As an additional inducement, you might offer to send copies of whatever
 paper or report comes out of your research.  I know I'd be interested in
 reading such a report

 Thanks,

 Brough



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 On 5/30/12 12:15 PM, Shaddi Hasan wrote:

 tl;dr: Please take my survey about WISPs! It's quick and anonymous;
 you'll help science, and you might win a $100 Amazon gift card! SURVEY
 LINK --- http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

 Hello!

 My name is Shaddi, and I'm a graduate student at UC Berkeley in the
 TIER research group (http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu).

 We're conducting a research study on the network management practices
 and challenges faced by WISPs. Our study's goal is to develop an
 understanding of the network management practices and challenges of
 WISPs in order to guide research towards making WISPs simpler to
 manage.

 Our study has two parts. The first is a survey (which should take
 about 5-10 minutes). Every question in our survey is optional, and
 best estimates are fine. After completing the survey, you may
 volunteer to participate in a completely optional follow-up phone
 interview, which should take 30-45 minutes.

 After completing the survey, you may provide your email address to be
 entered into a drawing for one of three $100 Amazon.com gift cards.
 Those who complete a follow-up interview will be entered into a
 separate drawing for one of two additional $100 Amazon.com gift cards.

 Here's what I promise:
 1) This survey is completely anonymous, though if you choose to
 provide your name and/or your organization's name, I won't share it
 with anyone.
 2) If I publish data from this study, I will only report aggregate
 statistics.
 3) I will only share the raw data from the study with my research
 advisor, Prof. Eric Brewer.

 Here's the link to the survey:
 http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study

 If you have any questions, feel free to contact me either directly or
 on-list.

 Thanks!
 Shaddi
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[WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Nick Olsen
Afternoon All,

We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of 
ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc..
If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from 
the local cable company for backup.

We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main 
POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost.

This is all well and good, Here's the problem.

The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s 
down.
Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.

This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all 
terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run 
multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 
200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint.

And ideas?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106

 
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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have..

They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's 
to  allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of 
packets, (makes for nice speed test results).


If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup 
your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co 
packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !).


:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net


On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:

Afternoon All,

We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection 
of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc..
If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection 
from the local cable company for backup.


We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our 
main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost.


This is all well and good, Here's the problem.

The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s 
down.

Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.

This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all 
terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even 
run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an 
aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint.


And ideas?


Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106



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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Nick Olsen
Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic 
by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a 
consistent 50mb/s.
Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106


 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have..

They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to  
allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, 
(makes for nice speed test results).

If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup 
your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co 
packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !).

:)

Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet  Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: 
supp...@snappydsl.net 
On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All,

We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of 
ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc..
If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from 
the local cable company for backup.

We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main 
POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost.

This is all well and good, Here's the problem.

The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s 
down.
Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.

This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all 
terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run 
multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 
200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint.

And ideas?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106

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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you generating the bandwidth test on?  Is it MT?  Is it TCP?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic
 by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a
 consistent 50mb/s.
 Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s


 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
 (855) FLSPEED  x106



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 *From*: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
 *Sent*: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM
 *To*: wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance


 Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have..

 They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's
 to  allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of
 packets, (makes for nice speed test results).

 If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup
 your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co
 packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !).

 :)

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, Fl 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net


 On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:

 Afternoon All,

 We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of
 ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc..
 If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from
 the local cable company for backup.

 We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main
 POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost.

 This is all well and good, Here's the problem.

 The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
 If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down.
 Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.

 This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all
 terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run
 multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of
 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint.

 And ideas?


 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
EOIP performance should be a a bit less than the full pipe , cause it 
will fragment packets and re-assemble them.


When you are testing, pay attention to CPU utilization on the 
Routerboard.. (just make sure you are not running out of CPU cycles).


Additionally, when you are testing via tunnel, try to test with multiple 
streams...  (from another discussion on the MT forums).


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net


On 5/30/2012 2:07 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:
Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst 
traffic by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where 
it will do a consistent 50mb/s.

Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106




*From*: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
*Sent*: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM
*To*: wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have..

They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable 
Co's to  allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other 
types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results).


If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you 
setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the 
Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !).


:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net

On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:

Afternoon All,

We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection 
of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc..
If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection 
from the local cable company for backup.


We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our 
main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost.


This is all well and good, Here's the problem.

The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s 
down.

Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.

This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all 
terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even 
run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an 
aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint.


And ideas?


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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

2012-05-30 Thread Matt
 EOIP performance should be a a bit less than the full pipe , cause it will
 fragment packets and re-assemble them.

 When you are testing, pay attention to CPU utilization on the
 Routerboard.. (just make sure you are not running out of CPU cycles).

 Additionally, when you are testing via tunnel, try to test with multiple
 streams...  (from another discussion on the MT forums).

Is there anyway to compress a EOIP stream?  When our PTP fiber was cut
we used an EOIP tunnel over a DSL line as backup.  Could not figure
out how to get compression to work.  Needed to squeeze every last bit
we could out of the line.
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[WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Shivers
What's a good wireless diagram software? 

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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote:
 What’s a good wireless diagram software?


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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Shivers
No. Simpler. Something I can draw a diagram with. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net
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 What's a good wireless diagram software?


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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Simpler than Dia?!

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On May 30, 2012 5:47 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote:

 No. Simpler. Something I can draw a diagram with.

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 Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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  What's a good wireless diagram software?
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
What is Dio?




On 5/30/2012 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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 What’s a good wireless diagram software?


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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
that would be open source DIA  miss-spelled.

:)

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On 5/30/2012 6:40 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 What is Dio?




 On 5/30/2012 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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 What’s a good wireless diagram software?


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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Dia sorry

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On May 30, 2012 6:37 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 What is Dio?




 On 5/30/2012 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?
 
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net
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  What’s a good wireless diagram software?
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

2012-05-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
It might as well be DUH to me  :-)


On 5/30/2012 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 that would be open source DIA  miss-spelled.

 :)

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 On 5/30/2012 6:40 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 What is Dio?




 On 5/30/2012 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile?

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 What’s a good wireless diagram software?


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