[WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Rick Kunze
No list traffic since the 9th?

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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Doug Clark
Shut up, We are all trying to make a living here and don't have time to GAB 
J/K 
 
 
 
 
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From: Rick Kunze
Date: 8/21/2012 12:53:51 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] ???
 
No list traffic since the 9th?
 
Rk
 
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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Barnes
You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On 


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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No list traffic since the 9th?

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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Doug Clark
Same here 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Steve Barnes
Date: 8/21/2012 12:58:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???
 
You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On
 
 
Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
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Behalf Of Rick Kunze
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No list traffic since the 9th?
 
Rk
 
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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 You may have something else going on but I have had:
 2 on the 21
 6 on the 19th
 1 on the 18th
 16 on the 17th
 So On


 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Barnes
Foul Ball... Sheesh Josh :)

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???

Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Rick Kunze
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Subject: [WISPA] ???
No list traffic since the 9th?

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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Just got one of those calls just a minute ago. =)

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

  Foul Ball……. Sheesh Josh J

 ** **

 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ???

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 Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:***
 *

 You may have something else going on but I have had:
 2 on the 21
 6 on the 19th
 1 on the 18th
 16 on the 17th
 So On


 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi



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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread DJ Anderson
I think your problem might be related to the following.

Warning: Received Non-Authoritative (lame) Answer from: 'ns1.colusanet.com'
for mx:colusanet.com
Warning: Received Non-Authoritative (lame) Answer from: 'ns2.colusanet.com'
for mx:colusanet.com

DJ Anderson
Shelby Broadband



On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

  Foul Ball……. Sheesh Josh J

 ** **

 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ???

 ** **

 Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:***
 *

 You may have something else going on but I have had:
 2 on the 21
 6 on the 19th
 1 on the 18th
 16 on the 17th
 So On


 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi



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Re: [WISPA] ???

2012-08-21 Thread Rick Harnish
DJ, 

 

He may not have gotten that if he isn't getting list traffic.

 

Rick,

 

Most traffic resides on the Members list.

 

 http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is
a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of DJ Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???

 

I think your problem might be related to the following. 

 


Warning: Received Non-Authoritative (lame) Answer from: 'ns1.colusanet.com'
for mx:colusanet.com


Warning: Received Non-Authoritative (lame) Answer from: 'ns2.colusanet.com'
for mx:colusanet.com



DJ Anderson

Shelby Broadband





On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

Foul Ball... Sheesh Josh J

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???

 

Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi



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No list traffic since the 9th?

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[WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Bret Clark
We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to 
customers. We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off 
of our BGP edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the 
customer getting the bandwidth they signed up for.  We use QoS to 
control bandwidth and make sure to not oversubscribe any one 
linksmall ratios of 3:1.


Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid 
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate 
(not in our favor)...but  of course customers take the results as 
gospel. AAA!


It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and 
none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads.


Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully 
inaccurate? Or is something else going on that I'm missing?


Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Joey Craig
We only guarantee from the customers radio to our servers and we make sure
the customer is aware of that. We use Jperf/Iperf also.works very well. 

How can you guarantee ANYTHING beyond your network? You are absolutely in
the right. 

 

Joey Craig 

Network/RF Engineer

 http://www.firenet1.com/ Firenet1.Com

Phone:  (662) 510-0764

Mobile: (662) 404-1118

  _  

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Behalf Of Bret Clark
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

 

We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers.
We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP
edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer
getting the bandwidth they signed up for.  We use QoS to control bandwidth
and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. 

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not
in our favor)...but  of course customers take the results as gospel.
AAA!

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none
of them run at more then 50% during peak loads.

Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate?
Or is something else going on that I'm missing?  

Thanks,
Bret

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Mike Hammett
You're going to get a bunch of people bashing the tests, but there's generally 
a reason for a low number. It very well could be nothing on your network, but 
it's still a problem that needs to be addressed, especially if that is a common 
testing point in your area.

A congested peering point could be to blame.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:22:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?


We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We 
validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge 
routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the 
bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to 
not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. 

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid 
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in 
our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel. 
AAA! 

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of 
them run at more then 50% during peak loads. 

Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or 
is something else going on that I'm missing? 

Thanks, 
Bret 

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Nick Olsen
Well, It really depends.

We found them to be extremely inconsistent. We actually host a 
speedtest.net server just for this reason.

We found on very fast connections (Like.. 100Mb/s and above) that they are 
completely inaccurate. Where is on normal connections (10-30Mb/s) they seem 
to be pretty close. We take iperf (Or mikrotik speedtest) results over all 
else.
That being said, We generally find when the site based speed tests are 
extremely low for multiple users there is normally a problem. Even if its 
hard to see at first.

Have this customer test to a few different locations. Then let him download 
a large zip file from your own network (Like a webserver off your BGP edge 
routers) and compare.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106


 From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:22 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. 
We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP 
edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer 
getting the bandwidth they signed up for.  We use QoS to control bandwidth 
and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. 

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid 
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not 
in our favor)...but  of course customers take the results as gospel. 
AAA!

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none 
of them run at more then 50% during peak loads.

Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? 
Or is something else going on that I'm missing?  

Thanks,
Bret

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Joey Craig
As my boss would say, those tests are for entertainment purposes only!

Joey Craig 
Network/RF Engineer
Firenet1.Com
Phone:  (662) 510-0764
Mobile: (662) 404-1118
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

You're going to get a bunch of people bashing the tests, but there's
generally a reason for a low number. It very well could be nothing on your
network, but it's still a problem that needs to be addressed, especially if
that is a common testing point in your area.

A congested peering point could be to blame.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:22:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?


We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers.
We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP
edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer
getting the bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth
and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. 

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not
in our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel.
AAA! 

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none
of them run at more then 50% during peak loads. 

Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate?
Or is something else going on that I'm missing? 

Thanks, 
Bret 

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Larry Weidig
Bret:

We have found that the tests are fairly accurate (well speedtest.net anyhow), 
BUT only in controlled environments.  Your end user is probably running these 
tests when their Internet is slow.  Viola look I am right it is slow, xyz 
speed test says so!  What he does not realize is that Johnny intern in the 
warehouse has set his computer up to grab torrents for him while he picks stock 
and then just dumps the off to flash before heading out.  Ok, that is just one 
example, but all sorts of other traffic can come into play.

We tell our customers that we are not at all interested in speed tests unless 
we have a support person on the line watching their link for other types of 
traffic as well during the test.  We also host their speedtest.net mini (free) 
on own of our own servers so that we can eliminate any Internet oddness causing 
problems with the results.  The mini however only seems accurate up to about 
25-30 Mbps in our experience at which point the results are only ballpark at 
best. Ookla claims mini is good until about 50 Mbps, but that has not been our 
experience.

Just what we have experienced with speedtest results.


Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.netmailto:lwei...@excel.net)
Excel.Net, Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
(920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
(888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bret Clark
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We 
validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge 
routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the 
bandwidth they signed up for.  We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to 
not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1.

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid 
bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in 
our favor)...but  of course customers take the results as gospel. 
AAA!

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of 
them run at more then 50% during peak loads.

Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or 
is something else going on that I'm missing?

Thanks,
Bret
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[WISPA] Form 477 Reports Due September 1st

2012-08-21 Thread Rick Harnish
The deadline for filing your Form 477 reports is rapidly approaching.  Below
are several links to assist you.

 


 http://www.fcc.gov/form477/ Form 477 Resources for Filers - FCC


www.fcc.gov/form477/Share

Jul 5, 2012 - Form 477 Resources for Filers. ... Activities / Broadband Data
and Reporting Resources (FCC Form 477)  Form 477 ... Form 477 System Guide
...



 http://transition.fcc.gov/form477/inst.htm FCC Form 477


FCC Form 477 collects information about broadband connections ...


 https://specialreports.fcc.gov/wcb/Form477/%20 FCC Form 477 - Local ...


Announcing a new FCC.gov. Tell us what you think and help ...



 http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477inst.pdf Instructions


1. FCC Form 477. Approved by OMB. Filing due 9/1/2012 ...


 http://transition.fcc.gov/form477/techfaqs.html Technical FAQs


FCC Form 477 Technical Frequently Asked Questions ...



 http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477systemguide.pdf Form 477 System Guide


Form 477 System Guide. 2/17/2010 iii. 3.18 Printing, Checking ...


 http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477tutorial.pdf Form 477 Tutorial


Completing and Filing FCC Form 477. Overview. . This ...


 
https://www.google.com/search?hl=enrlz=1C1TSNF_enUS465US465q=+site:fcc.go
v+fcc+form+477+instructionssa=Xei=m-MzUJ8jwuvKAZudgZAIved=0CEMQrAM More
results from fcc.gov 

 

Chuck Hogg also has a quick resource to help:  http://477.shelbybb.com/

 

Several of the Billing Software companies also have 477 reporting
functionality.  I'm not sure which ones, I'll let other members contribute.

 

 http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is
a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We are lucky as most speedtest.net servers are within 2ms of us.
(Probably because we are in two main colos.)  Ran one on my desktop at
the office yesterday for a prospect and pulled 88 Mbps/92 Mbps from my
100Base-T connected desktop.  We are 3 wireless hops from some tests
and 5 from others.

There is one speedtest.net site that sucks from our network.  And it
seems to be the one the customers get all the time.  Once they get any
other server, it's fine.
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Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Reports Due September 1st

2012-08-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Powercode has a one click button for it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 The deadline for filing your Form 477 reports is rapidly approaching.
 Below are several links to assist you.

 ** **
 *Form 477* Resources for Filers - *FCC* http://www.fcc.gov/form477/

 www.*fcc*.gov/*form477*/Share

 Jul 5, 2012 – *Form 477* Resources for Filers. *...* Activities /
 Broadband Data and Reporting Resources (*FCC Form 477*)  *Form 477* *...*
  *Form 477* System *Guide* *...*
  FCC Form 477 http://transition.fcc.gov/form477/inst.htm

 FCC Form 477 collects information about broadband connections *...*
 FCC Form 477 - Local ... https://specialreports.fcc.gov/wcb/Form477/%20*
 ***

 Announcing a new FCC.gov. Tell us what you think and help *...*
 Instructions http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477inst.pdf

 1. FCC Form 477. Approved by OMB. Filing due 9/1/2012 *...*
 Technical FAQs http://transition.fcc.gov/form477/techfaqs.html

 FCC Form 477 Technical Frequently Asked Questions *...*
 Form 477 System Guidehttp://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477systemguide.pdf
 

 Form 477 System Guide. 2/17/2010 iii. 3.18 Printing, Checking *...*
 Form 477 Tutorial http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477tutorial.pdf

 Completing and Filing FCC Form 477. Overview. • This *...*

 More results from fcc.gov 
 »https://www.google.com/search?hl=enrlz=1C1TSNF_enUS465US465q=+site:fcc.gov+fcc+form+477+instructionssa=Xei=m-MzUJ8jwuvKAZudgZAIved=0CEMQrAM
 

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 Chuck Hogg also has a quick resource to help:  http://477.shelbybb.com/***
 *

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 Several of the Billing Software companies also have 477 reporting
 functionality.  I’m not sure which ones, I’ll let other members contribute.
 

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 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Jack Unger

  
  
Two points - 

1. Customer education. I think it's the job of each WISP to
educate their customers that the Internet is a huge network with
multiple hops needed to get anywhere. Yes; I know it seems
stupid to us to have to do this but much of the public is just
not aware so we need to help them understand.

2. Local and "Beyond Local" Testing - As part of our customer
education, we need to set up a local (at our NOC) speed test and
a "beyond our NOC" speed test link. That way, we can train the
customer to a) check approx. throughput to our NOC, and b) check
approx. throughput beyond our NOC. 

jack 



  
On 8/21/2012 12:22 PM, Bret Clark
  wrote:


  
  We mostly deal with business customer and
guarantee bandwidth to customers. We validate the bandwidth
using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge routers down
to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the
bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth
and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios
of 3:1. 

Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of
those stupid bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are
woefully inaccurate (not in our favor)...but of course
customers take the results as gospel. AAA!

It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP
links and none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads.

  Has anyone else found those Internet speed
test to be woefully inaccurate? Or is something else going on
that I'm missing? 
  
Thanks,
Bret
   
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?

2012-08-21 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
The visualware servers are Accurate and u can deploy them on your network as 
well. The Dulles,va server is located off the ashburn peering point so that's 
the one I always use and suggest. 

Leon

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. 
 We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge 
 routers down to the customer   and IPERF always shows the customer 
 getting the bandwidth they signed up for.  We use QoS to control bandwidth 
 and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. 
 
 Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid 
 bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not 
 in our favor)...but  of course customers take the results as gospel. 
 AAA!
 
 It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none 
 of them run at more then 50% during peak loads.
 
 Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or 
 is something else going on that I'm missing?  
 
 Thanks,
 Bret
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Re: [WISPA] Invoice from FCC Interstate TRS Fund

2012-08-21 Thread Bret Clark

And yes, you have to pay it.

On 08/19/2012 04:14 PM, Jahan Babadi wrote:


Calculated off of 499 A

On Aug 19, 2012 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:


So do we have to pay this because we started offering VOIP service
recently? I don't think we've ever paid it before.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 They are the new administrator

 http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/trs.html/

 Search their name.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Chris Fabien
ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 I've gotten a number of emails in the last few days from Rolka
Loube
 Saltzer Assoc, t...@r-l-s-a.com mailto:t...@r-l-s-a.com which
state As the Administrator of
 the Interstate Telecommunications Relay Service Fund (“TRS
Fund”) I am
 writing to alert you that invoice 82925407121, with a balance of
 $32.03 issued to your organization by the TRS Fund Administrator on
 7/27/2012, is due by 5:00 PM EST on 8/24/2012. Please make your
 payment by this deadline.

 It continues to provide information on logging into their
portal and
 making a payment.

 Is this legitimate or is it someone who pulled my info from the FCC
 somehow and is sending a bogus bill in hopes I'll just pay it?
I have
 heard other WISP mention similar scams on the list. We did just
start
 filing 477499 recently so maybe it's a legitimate expense I was
 unaware of?

 Thanks for your input,
 Chris Fabien
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