Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I had second thoughts immediately after I hit the “send” button. . . . j o n a t h a n From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nedolast Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:22 PM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router A bulge is better. Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic. Maybe. But I wouldn't use that line until at least the third date ;-) - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt mailto:jeschm...@jeschmidt.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers. We had over a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other after 4 years. As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had an epiphany that it might be one common problem…looking at the stack of monitors 6’ high. It was caps, of course. Opening them up, you could see the bulge in the top of one or two caps. There were 4 or 5 of the same kind and one or the other were blown in the first 3. He got to the point where he could fix a monitor in 8 minutes…and we got them all back. If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic. This time it wasn’t the supplier. They were all running a volt or two above the rating. It was the designer. . . . j o n a t h a n From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nedolast Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router As well as samsung recently. Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that capacitor issue... You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well. Two of the big boys in electronics. Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier s you. Live and learn. -- On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why would they be any different? That wouldn't make any sense and would go against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to your distributor who batches them back to Latvia. With Ubiquiti, being US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one. Support? You must have a secret number for MT support. The only way I know to get support on MT is to go to the MT forums where you'll get beat up... And heaven forbid you find a bug.you'll get tarred and feathered. And certainly no discussion of competitors products on their forums because that would be a bad thing. I think it speaks worlds that MT uses sometimes come over to the Ubiquiti forum to get help and people help them! Ubiquiti has phone support, a very active FRIENDLY forum. When was the last time you saw a MT firmware developer on the forum answering questions? And finally.the Ubiquiti router doesn't blow caps after being in service for a year. . Oh it wait That issue was never acknowledged was it? Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:35, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage. You can't honestly expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik. Features are better in Mikrotik. Price doesn't have a huge gap between them. Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when they haven't even started shipping. Unless you got a beta unit or something, which is probably not the same product that you'd buy from a distributor. Simple question: What does the Ubiquiti router have over my Mikrotik? Now what's the answer... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things? Many of us have had them in heavy production without issue for months. Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Build a Win ME machine. Put it on some batteries in the corner. Get your 9 mo uptime. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Do you have anything to base that on? I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without missing a beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+ months ago. Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to
Re: [WISPA] Medical companies
We also have a ton of customers that work for hospitals. There's no reason why they can't use your service. I've argued with IT guys for big companies like Eli Lilly when we set customers up with WPA or WPA2 on their routers and their company laptop won't connect because they only allow WEP. Ironic eh? Encryption that can be cracked in under a minute and they're worried about a WISP. Once the VPN connection is made it shouldn't matter what kind of internet they have. I do see requirements for speed is going up though in some cases. We did have a lady leave our service because her work requirement 4Mbps and we could only serve her 1.5Mbps in the forest she lived in. Hope this helps, Andy Trimmell Systems Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 @PDSWireless www.facebook.com/PDSWireless From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Asher Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Medical companies Hello All, I have someone who wants to work from home, they work for a hospital and the hospital says they have to use dsl and wireless is not allowed. Is this a law, maybe hipaa? Thank you for any info. -- Mike Asher Atm-Internet 765-792-6165 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Me too. Too many 12 hour days with little sleep. On 1/11/2013 3:56 AM, Jonathan Schmidt wrote: I had second thoughts immediately after I hit the send button. . . . j o n a t h a n From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nedolast Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:22 PM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router A bulge is better. Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: "If youre lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic." Maybe. But I wouldn't use that line until at leastthe third date ;-) - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers. We had over a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other after 4 years. As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had an epiphany that it might be one common problemlooking at the stack of monitors 6 high. It was caps, of course. Opening them up, you could see the bulge in the top of one or two caps. There were 4 or 5 of the same kind and one or the other were blown in the first 3. He got to the point where he could fix a monitor in 8 minutesand we got them all back. If youre lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic. This time it wasnt the supplier. They were all running a volt or two above the rating. It was the designer. . . . j o n a t h a n From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nedolast Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router As well as samsung recently. Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that capacitor issue... You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well. Two of the big boys in electronics. Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier s you. Live and learn. -- On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why would they be any different? That wouldn't make any sense and would go against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to your distributor who batches them back to Latvia. With Ubiquiti, being US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one.
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 18:21 -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote: Which is debian under the hood. Haven't used vyatta though so I don't know if there is a vyatta abstraction for tc or not, which is why I asked the question of the interface for bandwidth limiting. I haven't looked into the qos in my ERLite, yet. I DO know that there is an UGLY abstraction for iptables. SIGH...I've never understood why vendors (vyatta in this case) want to make something that is SIMPLE harder to use. The firewall should be a very simple input, output, forward...not all this mess that requires you to define interface, then, create rules based on interface for input, output and forward for every interface. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Is there a list moderator in the house? Re: Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 08:05 -0500, Matt Hoppes wrote: Each has their placeand MT has no place anywhere until they can prove that they can write reliable firmware and offer friendly support. It works for MILLIONS of installations. Perhaps the issue on your network was as much user related as software? CAN WE KILL THIS THREAD? IT HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH BASHING A VENDOR MEMBER. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Is there a list moderator in the house? Re: Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Hi Butch. I have to respectfully disagree. Kernel panics aren't user error. On Jan 11, 2013, at 18:39, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 08:05 -0500, Matt Hoppes wrote: Each has their placeand MT has no place anywhere until they can prove that they can write reliable firmware and offer friendly support. It works for MILLIONS of installations. Perhaps the issue on your network was as much user related as software? CAN WE KILL THIS THREAD? IT HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH BASHING A VENDOR MEMBER. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Is there a list moderator in the house? Re: Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Really...? Can we drop this, please? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote: Hi Butch. I have to respectfully disagree. Kernel panics aren't user error. On Jan 11, 2013, at 18:39, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 08:05 -0500, Matt Hoppes wrote: Each has their placeand MT has no place anywhere until they can prove that they can write reliable firmware and offer friendly support. It works for MILLIONS of installations. Perhaps the issue on your network was as much user related as software? CAN WE KILL THIS THREAD? IT HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH BASHING A VENDOR MEMBER. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] [THREAD CLOSED] Re: Is there a list moderator in the house? Re: Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Rick Harnish WISPA -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Really...? Can we drop this, please? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Hi Butch. I have to respectfully disagree. Kernel panics aren't user error. On Jan 11, 2013, at 18:39, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 08:05 -0500, Matt Hoppes wrote: Each has their placeand MT has no place anywhere until they can prove that they can write reliable firmware and offer friendly support. It works for MILLIONS of installations. Perhaps the issue on your network was as much user related as software? CAN WE KILL THIS THREAD? IT HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH BASHING A VENDOR MEMBER. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
