Re: [WISPA] Long range adjustments XM/XW client XC AP

[Mitch]

On the Gen2s I cant find the no ACK for PtP

and on the prism the only way we have gotten link over 14.3 was set to

auto... Not the best but works for now till UBNT fixes it

Mitch


On 10/13/2017 6:17 PM, Rick Boucher wrote:
> We are in PTMP.  Where would I adjust the No-Ack in there with 8.4.1?
>
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>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Nick Bright  wrote:
>>
>> On 10/13/2017 3:46 PM, Rick Boucher wrote:
>>> We have 6 or so customers out past 15 miles. They have either Rocket XM 
>>> with 3RD-5G-30 dishes or NanoBeam M5 400 (XW)
>>>
>>> We’ve upgraded a couple of APs to Rocket 5AC Prisms.
>>>
>>> 20mhz channels.
>>> New firmware on all of them.  xm6.1.1, xw6.1.1, xc8.4.1
>>> Broadcast channel does not seem to matter.
>>>
>>> The clients out past 14.5 miles drop all the time - up and down.  When they 
>>> are up their connection is reasonable 69/71 but throughput is very 
>>> negligible.
>>> Seems like they link up at about 25mbps and then the connection 
>>> deteriorates to kbps and them they drop out.
>>>
>>> On the previous XM Rocket M5 AP the connection stayed up and was 
>>> serviceable.
>>>
>>> Any adjustments recommended for the connection?
>> That sounds like what happened to a 26 mile PTP link I had if "PTP
>> No-Ack" mode wasn't enabled. Like there's a hardware distance limit (ack
>> timeout) that's been exceeded.
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Re: [WISPA] Long range adjustments XM/XW client XC AP

[Rick Boucher]

We are in PTMP.  Where would I adjust the No-Ack in there with 8.4.1?

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Nick Bright  wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2017 3:46 PM, Rick Boucher wrote:
>> We have 6 or so customers out past 15 miles. They have either Rocket XM with 
>> 3RD-5G-30 dishes or NanoBeam M5 400 (XW)
>> 
>> We’ve upgraded a couple of APs to Rocket 5AC Prisms.
>> 
>> 20mhz channels.
>> New firmware on all of them.  xm6.1.1, xw6.1.1, xc8.4.1
>> Broadcast channel does not seem to matter.
>> 
>> The clients out past 14.5 miles drop all the time - up and down.  When they 
>> are up their connection is reasonable 69/71 but throughput is very 
>> negligible.
>> Seems like they link up at about 25mbps and then the connection deteriorates 
>> to kbps and them they drop out.
>> 
>> On the previous XM Rocket M5 AP the connection stayed up and was serviceable.
>> 
>> Any adjustments recommended for the connection?
> That sounds like what happened to a 26 mile PTP link I had if "PTP 
> No-Ack" mode wasn't enabled. Like there's a hardware distance limit (ack 
> timeout) that's been exceeded.
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Re: [WISPA] Long range adjustments XM/XW client XC AP

[Nick Bright]

On 10/13/2017 3:46 PM, Rick Boucher wrote:
> We have 6 or so customers out past 15 miles. They have either Rocket XM with 
> 3RD-5G-30 dishes or NanoBeam M5 400 (XW)
>
> We’ve upgraded a couple of APs to Rocket 5AC Prisms.
>
> 20mhz channels.
> New firmware on all of them.  xm6.1.1, xw6.1.1, xc8.4.1
> Broadcast channel does not seem to matter.
>
> The clients out past 14.5 miles drop all the time - up and down.  When they 
> are up their connection is reasonable 69/71 but throughput is very negligible.
> Seems like they link up at about 25mbps and then the connection deteriorates 
> to kbps and them they drop out.
>
> On the previous XM Rocket M5 AP the connection stayed up and was serviceable.
>
> Any adjustments recommended for the connection?
That sounds like what happened to a 26 mile PTP link I had if "PTP 
No-Ack" mode wasn't enabled. Like there's a hardware distance limit (ack 
timeout) that's been exceeded.

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[WISPA] Long range adjustments XM/XW client XC AP

[Rick Boucher]

We have 6 or so customers out past 15 miles. They have either Rocket XM with 
3RD-5G-30 dishes or NanoBeam M5 400 (XW)

We’ve upgraded a couple of APs to Rocket 5AC Prisms.

20mhz channels.
New firmware on all of them.  xm6.1.1, xw6.1.1, xc8.4.1
Broadcast channel does not seem to matter.

The clients out past 14.5 miles drop all the time - up and down.  When they are 
up their connection is reasonable 69/71 but throughput is very negligible.
Seems like they link up at about 25mbps and then the connection deteriorates to 
kbps and them they drop out.

On the previous XM Rocket M5 AP the connection stayed up and was serviceable.

Any adjustments recommended for the connection?

Also the newer firmware sure seems to be overly RADAR sensitive.

Rick


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Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

[Jon Langeler]

Power backup?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Oct 13, 2017, at 12:18 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> The show as matured and vendors seem to be responding in the area of
>  
> Billing system
> Network experience monitoring and cloud based monitoring
> Power backup
> Accounting and CPA service
> New cloud based add on services
>  
> Hopefully the radio manufactures respond with new and increased bandwidth 
> capacities so we can respond
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?
>  
> There is just so much that it all blends together.
>  
> Cadmium had lots of stuff on their roadmap.  Lte radios,  3.65 medusa, ac gen 
> 2 epmp, etc.
>  
> I think most vendors can't afford to wait to a wispa show to launch, so they 
> launch when they're ready.
>  
> Also, the show has grown to the point where there is so much going on that 
> it's hard to pick out anything in particular.  Plus the announcements tend to 
> not be that unexpected.   Vendors have newer faster radios.  Others have 
> cooler features.  But all pretty expected.
>  
> On Oct 13, 2017 6:39 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:
> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once 
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>  
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>  
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>  
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular 
> either
>  
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
> SFP ports? 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
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> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

[tim]

The show as matured and vendors seem to be responding in the area of



Billing system

Network experience monitoring and cloud based monitoring

Power backup

Accounting and CPA service

New cloud based add on services



Hopefully the radio manufactures respond with new and increased bandwidth 
capacities so we can respond



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 12:52 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?



There is just so much that it all blends together.



Cadmium had lots of stuff on their roadmap.  Lte radios,  3.65 medusa, ac gen 2 
epmp, etc.



I think most vendors can't afford to wait to a wispa show to launch, so they 
launch when they're ready.



Also, the show has grown to the point where there is so much going on that it's 
hard to pick out anything in particular.  Plus the announcements tend to not be 
that unexpected.   Vendors have newer faster radios.  Others have cooler 
features.  But all pretty expected.



On Oct 13, 2017 6:39 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  > wrote:

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?



Nothing new from Mimosa



UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul



Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either



Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?




Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968




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Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

There is just so much that it all blends together.

Cadmium had lots of stuff on their roadmap.  Lte radios,  3.65 medusa, ac
gen 2 epmp, etc.

I think most vendors can't afford to wait to a wispa show to launch, so
they launch when they're ready.

Also, the show has grown to the point where there is so much going on that
it's hard to pick out anything in particular.  Plus the announcements tend
to not be that unexpected.   Vendors have newer faster radios.  Others have
cooler features.  But all pretty expected.

On Oct 13, 2017 6:39 AM, "Gino A. Villarini"  wrote:

> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

[Harold Bledsoe]

There may have been a 10G tri-band omni in our booth.  ;-)

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once
> was? No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?
>
> Nothing new from Mimosa
>
> UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul
>
> Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular
> either
>
> Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60
> ghz? SFP ports?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
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[WISPA] Wispapalooza - Where is the Gear Beef?

[Gino A. Villarini]

It doesn’t seen that Wispapalooza is the new gear coming out party it once was? 
No new gear announced? Has the industry lost its shine?

Nothing new from Mimosa

UBNT just showing just another 5 ghz backhaul

Cambium with just another backhaul too? And AC Epmp… nothing spectacular either

Where is the new gear in 24 ghz? Multiband backhaul? (5,24,60), more 60 ghz? 
SFP ports?



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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