Re: [WISPA] nanobeam m2 shutting down

[Chris Ruschmann]

I have this same problem sporadically with PowerBeam M2 400's in PTP mode.
I have the Watchdog watch both sides of the link and restart the device
when it has issues. I loose connectivity for about 3 minutes when it
happens, but at least it's not down until the user restarts it.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of OOLLC-Support
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:26 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] nanobeam m2 shutting down

am having an issue with a few nanobeam m2 (little moon shaped things).
As looked at on the main tab the TX/RX goes to 1/130 Mbs and sticks there,
customer calls and complains about no internet. Have to power cycle it to
get it working again.  All other CPEs off same tower working fine which
are mostly nanostation or airgrid models.  Upgrade to 5.6.9 does not help.

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Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's

[Chris Ruschmann]

Correct. Not everyone drinks the procera koolaid however ;)

On Oct 21, 2016 4:41 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Unless you're not running BMUs :P
>
> Even if you were, you could run them in pairs. You know, just like a
> regular network service.
>
> On Oct 21, 2016 7:37 PM, "Chris Ruschmann"  wrote:
>
>> In the case of Powercode, if the BMU fails, you have more problems than
>> DHCP ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Adair Winter
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2016 3:16 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's
>>
>>
>>
>> What happens when DHCP quits and you can't manage anything?
>>
>> Powercode assigns the next available management IP for whatever
>> tower/range and we statically assign to the CPE
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Ian Fraser  wrote:
>>
>> Not sure how static would be safer than DHCP for CPE mgmt?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Fred Goldstein 
>> Date:10-21-2016 6:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's
>>
>> On 10/21/2016 5:55 PM, Ian Fraser wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > PPPOE for Res traffic. VLAN's for Biz. Public IP's are statically
>> > assigned.  DHCP for CPE's MgMt IP assignment.  PPPOE session and CPE's
>> > connection to the AP authenticated by Radius. Radius Accounting  is
>> > used for traffic billing and session info.
>> >
>>
>> Wouldn't it be safer to use static IPs for CPE management? I'd do that,
>> private IPs of course on a management VLAN not visible to customers.
>>
>> > Per site: 2 VLANs for MgMt (1 for Tower/AP/UPS etc and 1 for CPEs) and
>> > 1 VLAN per AP for PPPOE or a dedicated VLAN per Biz. AP's are bridged
>> > for CPE's PPPOE to NAS.  uPnP enabled CPEs. Cust Routers are not
>> > allowed to initiate PPPOE.  PPPOE NAS's are mostly colocated tower
>> > sites so that backhauls can see QOS markers on traffic and not just a
>> > Tunnel.
>> >
>> > BGP Advertises IP range per Fibre POP and feeds 0.0.0.0/0 into OSPF
>> > for redistributing routes inside the AS.  Infrastructure MgMt is on
>> > RFC1918 and customers are Public IPs.  Firewall rules on
>> > NAS/Router/CPE prevent Customer IP's from reaching MgMt IP's.
>> >
>> Nice if you have enough public IPs for customers. I'm not sure BGP and
>> PPPOE are necessarily the easiest protocols for this purpose, but
>> definitely do use the VLANs and keep the routing out of the radios.
>>
>> > Mikrotik for all routing.  Netonix for most switching. Mikrotik for
>> > most PtMP (probably uncommon) but LTE is Telrad in areas where it is
>> > deployed, which skews the above architecture a bit :(  LTE is not for
>> > newbies though mind you maybe Mikrotik isn't either lol...  but in
>> > 13 years I've never been floored by a virus "infecting" my gear ;-)
>> >
>> You can't do 5 GHz with MikroTik in the US; they don't have valid FCC
>> approval any more. Not that they admit it, but the US isn't a big market
>> for them. The wireless design itself has to be based on the local
>> terrain, clutter (trees, etc.), subscriber density, and other conditions.
>>
>> You do want a nice SNMP monitoring system that allows you to pull
>> whatever parameters you want out of the MIB, not one that charges per
>> line item (like PRTG) or that only pulls a few selected details. I do
>> enjoy the detail I can get out of InterMapper, for instance. Where are
>> you (or your planned network) located, Jordan?
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Ian
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 10/21/2016 3:07 PM, Jordan de Geus wrote:
>> >>> Hey guys,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm very new to the WISP industry and I've been curious to know how
>> >>> people are designing their WISP networks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you creating VLAN's for each connection point? So your backhauls
>> >>> are all in one VLAN, while all AP to client connections are in
>> >>> another VLAN?
>> >>>
>> >>> I had been thinking about how the abo

Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's

[Chris Ruschmann]

In the case of Powercode, if the BMU fails, you have more problems than
DHCP ;)



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Adair Winter
*Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2016 3:16 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's



What happens when DHCP quits and you can't manage anything?

Powercode assigns the next available management IP for whatever tower/range
and we statically assign to the CPE



On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Ian Fraser  wrote:

Not sure how static would be safer than DHCP for CPE mgmt?



Ian



 Original message 
From: Fred Goldstein 
Date:10-21-2016 6:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's

On 10/21/2016 5:55 PM, Ian Fraser wrote:
>
>
> PPPOE for Res traffic. VLAN's for Biz. Public IP's are statically
> assigned.  DHCP for CPE's MgMt IP assignment.  PPPOE session and CPE's
> connection to the AP authenticated by Radius. Radius Accounting  is
> used for traffic billing and session info.
>

Wouldn't it be safer to use static IPs for CPE management? I'd do that,
private IPs of course on a management VLAN not visible to customers.

> Per site: 2 VLANs for MgMt (1 for Tower/AP/UPS etc and 1 for CPEs) and
> 1 VLAN per AP for PPPOE or a dedicated VLAN per Biz. AP's are bridged
> for CPE's PPPOE to NAS.  uPnP enabled CPEs. Cust Routers are not
> allowed to initiate PPPOE.  PPPOE NAS's are mostly colocated tower
> sites so that backhauls can see QOS markers on traffic and not just a
> Tunnel.
>
> BGP Advertises IP range per Fibre POP and feeds 0.0.0.0/0 into OSPF
> for redistributing routes inside the AS.  Infrastructure MgMt is on
> RFC1918 and customers are Public IPs.  Firewall rules on
> NAS/Router/CPE prevent Customer IP's from reaching MgMt IP's.
>
Nice if you have enough public IPs for customers. I'm not sure BGP and
PPPOE are necessarily the easiest protocols for this purpose, but
definitely do use the VLANs and keep the routing out of the radios.

> Mikrotik for all routing.  Netonix for most switching. Mikrotik for
> most PtMP (probably uncommon) but LTE is Telrad in areas where it is
> deployed, which skews the above architecture a bit :(  LTE is not for
> newbies though mind you maybe Mikrotik isn't either lol...  but in
> 13 years I've never been floored by a virus "infecting" my gear ;-)
>
You can't do 5 GHz with MikroTik in the US; they don't have valid FCC
approval any more. Not that they admit it, but the US isn't a big market
for them. The wireless design itself has to be based on the local
terrain, clutter (trees, etc.), subscriber density, and other conditions.

You do want a nice SNMP monitoring system that allows you to pull
whatever parameters you want out of the MIB, not one that charges per
line item (like PRTG) or that only pulls a few selected details. I do
enjoy the detail I can get out of InterMapper, for instance. Where are
you (or your planned network) located, Jordan?

> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
>
>> On 10/21/2016 3:07 PM, Jordan de Geus wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I'm very new to the WISP industry and I've been curious to know how
>>> people are designing their WISP networks.
>>>
>>> Are you creating VLAN's for each connection point? So your backhauls
>>> are all in one VLAN, while all AP to client connections are in
>>> another VLAN?
>>>
>>> I had been thinking about how the above VLAN based design would be,
>>> in terms of security, and I realized that if all CPE's were in one
>>> VLAN together, wouldn't they be able to cross communicate? So an AP
>>> with 30 clients operating in VLANX, would essentially be able to
>>> communicate to each other, bring security as a major issue. I was
>>> thinking that you'd be able to do VLAN's for each customer, but
>>> doing a PTMP setup for residential purposes, I feel like the system
>>> would be quite bogged down with that amount of vlans?
>>>
>>> How are you authenticating and issuing IP's to clients? Are you
>>> doing PPPOE or DHCP? Is everything just in routed tables?
>>>
>>> What sort of hardware are you using for your network design and
>>> management?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Jordan
>>>


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Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

[Chris Ruschmann]

I emailed them and they said they stopped sending them with mounts because
the default ones don’t work…



So I have an email in with the distributer trying to get some options for
mounting the things.



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Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2016 11:19 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear



I got no mount! Wtf ignitenet?



*From: * on behalf of Chris Ruschmann <
ch...@scsalaska.net>



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President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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*Date: *Monday, August 29, 2016 at 2:43 PM
*To: *WISPA General List 
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear



Yeah, on our Beta Gear we were seeing 600Mpbs. I haven’t got the new sector
up to test as they apparently don’t ship them with mounts…



*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 3:04 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear



You had something not setup right.



*We have seen arguments about 600meg vs 800meg vs 1g type discussions.. but
if you were seeing 30... then you had something totally off...*



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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*From: *"Dan Parrish" 
*To: *"WISPA General List" 
*Sent: *Friday, August 26, 2016 5:55:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

We've gotten some this week as well. Initial tests weren't too impressive,
but I'm sure I can improve the RF alignment. At -55 on both sides, I was
only able to pass about 30mbits/sec, which was much lower than I
anticipated. How is everyone else faring in their tests? Please include
RSSI and TCP performance if possible.

--danp

On 08/25/2016 03:13 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

Just got these in, smaller than I thought they would be…



Sector on the left, CPE on the right. I’ll get them setup shortly.



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Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

[Chris Ruschmann]

Yeah, on our Beta Gear we were seeing 600Mpbs. I haven’t got the new sector
up to test as they apparently don’t ship them with mounts…



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 3:04 PM
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear



You had something not setup right.



*We have seen arguments about 600meg vs 800meg vs 1g type discussions.. but
if you were seeing 30... then you had something totally off...*



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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*From: *"Dan Parrish" 
*To: *"WISPA General List" 
*Sent: *Friday, August 26, 2016 5:55:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

We've gotten some this week as well. Initial tests weren't too impressive,
but I'm sure I can improve the RF alignment. At -55 on both sides, I was
only able to pass about 30mbits/sec, which was much lower than I
anticipated. How is everyone else faring in their tests? Please include
RSSI and TCP performance if possible.

--danp


On 08/25/2016 03:13 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

Just got these in, smaller than I thought they would be…



Sector on the left, CPE on the right. I’ll get them setup shortly.



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Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

[Chris Ruschmann]

I still have some from the beta.

On Aug 25, 2016 6:31 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> make sure you also got the Scopes !...
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Chris Ruschmann" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:13:01 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] 60 Ghz gear
>
> Just got these in, smaller than I thought they would be…
>
>
>
> Sector on the left, CPE on the right. I’ll get them setup shortly.
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Re: [WISPA] DC UPS (and Solar?) Setup.

[Chris Ruschmann]

also, size your battery strings to be the same or larger than your load in
volts. down covering voltage uses less energy than up converting. so you
will lose efficiencies if you go that route.

example. running a 12 v battery bank using a netonix DC switch which will
up convert to 48v for the switch, then down covert to 24v for most gear
will yield you anywhere between 70-90% efficiency. thus making your battery
load that much less useful. Running a 48v bank will yield you 99-100%
efficiency. which will make sizing calculations easier for your run times.

On Thursday, July 14, 2016, Chris Ruschmann  wrote:

> if your interested in understanding the technology, then this site has a
> lot of information on solar and DC in general. check out the faq's they are
> worth the read.
> http://www.solar-electric.com/learning-center
>
> Air fibers use a lot of power in DC land. The biggest thing is
> understanding your load. Buy according to that. I spent about a year on a
> test site tinkering before I built my first production site. I have never
> had an outage. and I've gone 22 straight days with absolutely no sun on
> only batteries and no gensets. I'm in Alaska.
>
> use 24v solar panels if you have space. try and do as large of strings as
> possible. 48, 72, 96 Volts. We use midnight solar classic charge
> controllers. They are rock solid and work great.
>
> We use only AGM sealed batteries. My personal favorites are Full River.
>
> Fused netonix DC switches.
>
>
> typed this on my iPad...
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016, Paul Hendry  > wrote:
>
>> Nice. How customisable is the charge/discharge side of this unit? Would
>> be interested to see if they can be used with LiFePO4 cells. Also, roughly
>> how much are these units?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>> On 15/07/2016 12:33, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>
>> Just do use this and be done with all:
>>
>>
>> http://www.alpha.com/index.php/products-mobile/cable-tv-broadband-products/
>> item/2448vdc-cordex-psu-2
>>
>> On 7/14/16, 5:29 PM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Duncan
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> Scott" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >So historically we've been a mostly AC setup, but I'm trying to figure
>> >out a DC setup for some of our smaller sites, and hopefully a solar
>> >setup as well. I'm new to all of this though so I'm trying to see if
>> >anyone has any written guides or part lists. Basic goal is to power an
>> >airfiber or equivalent and A few Canopy or Ubnt APs.
>> >
>> >Here's what I've been looking at so far:
>> >
>> >48v DC power supply
>> >Traco TSP-BCMU360
>> >Packetflux Site monitor 2 base
>> >Packetflux SiteMonitor 6 Channel Switch Closure Input
>> >Neotonix DC switch
>> >
>> >This seems to work okay, the TSP-BCMU360 charges and monitors the
>> >battery and the Packetflux Sitemonitor provides a network connection to
>> >monitor the status.
>> >
>> >Issues so far:
>> >
>> >I'm running the site monitor off the BCMU, but this means that it's
>> >input power is 48v, I want to monitor the voltage of the battery, but
>> >that's just 12v and I don't think I can have different voltages plugged
>> >into the two inputs to the site monitor. Another option would be to have
>> >the site monitor powered off the batteries directly, but that seems
>> bad...
>> >
>> >Is the packetflux stuff the best solution for this, or is there another
>> >web enabling option? Seem pretty good so far, but I'm not even sure what
>> >the other options are.
>> >
>> >The other issue is I have no idea what I should be using for
>> >breaker/fuses for the equipment. A suggested list of DIN mountable stuff
>> >I should have would be super useful if someone has it on hand. Also who
>> >to order this stuff from.
>> >
>> >The other thing I would like to try is some kind of solar setup. Again
>> >it need to be monitored remotely. Power draw would be as low as I could
>> >manage. This is Oregon, so not lots of snow, but there are a lot of
>> >cloudy days. Packetflux makes several items that integrate with Morning
>> >Star controllers. It that a good way to go? Something like a TS-MPPT-30?
>> >
>> >Batteries are another thing. I'm also very curious if Lithium ion
>&

Re: [WISPA] DC UPS (and Solar?) Setup.

[Chris Ruschmann]

if your interested in understanding the technology, then this site has a
lot of information on solar and DC in general. check out the faq's they are
worth the read.
http://www.solar-electric.com/learning-center

Air fibers use a lot of power in DC land. The biggest thing is
understanding your load. Buy according to that. I spent about a year on a
test site tinkering before I built my first production site. I have never
had an outage. and I've gone 22 straight days with absolutely no sun on
only batteries and no gensets. I'm in Alaska.

use 24v solar panels if you have space. try and do as large of strings as
possible. 48, 72, 96 Volts. We use midnight solar classic charge
controllers. They are rock solid and work great.

We use only AGM sealed batteries. My personal favorites are Full River.

Fused netonix DC switches.


typed this on my iPad...




On Thursday, July 14, 2016, Paul Hendry 
wrote:

> Nice. How customisable is the charge/discharge side of this unit? Would be
> interested to see if they can be used with LiFePO4 cells. Also, roughly how
> much are these units?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Paul.
>
> On 15/07/2016 12:33, Gino Villarini wrote:
>
> Just do use this and be done with all:
>
> http://www.alpha.com/index.php/products-mobile/cable-tv-broadband-products/
> item/2448vdc-cordex-psu-2
>
> On 7/14/16, 5:29 PM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>  on behalf of
> Duncan
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Scott" 
> 
> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >So historically we've been a mostly AC setup, but I'm trying to figure
> >out a DC setup for some of our smaller sites, and hopefully a solar
> >setup as well. I'm new to all of this though so I'm trying to see if
> >anyone has any written guides or part lists. Basic goal is to power an
> >airfiber or equivalent and A few Canopy or Ubnt APs.
> >
> >Here's what I've been looking at so far:
> >
> >48v DC power supply
> >Traco TSP-BCMU360
> >Packetflux Site monitor 2 base
> >Packetflux SiteMonitor 6 Channel Switch Closure Input
> >Neotonix DC switch
> >
> >This seems to work okay, the TSP-BCMU360 charges and monitors the
> >battery and the Packetflux Sitemonitor provides a network connection to
> >monitor the status.
> >
> >Issues so far:
> >
> >I'm running the site monitor off the BCMU, but this means that it's
> >input power is 48v, I want to monitor the voltage of the battery, but
> >that's just 12v and I don't think I can have different voltages plugged
> >into the two inputs to the site monitor. Another option would be to have
> >the site monitor powered off the batteries directly, but that seems bad...
> >
> >Is the packetflux stuff the best solution for this, or is there another
> >web enabling option? Seem pretty good so far, but I'm not even sure what
> >the other options are.
> >
> >The other issue is I have no idea what I should be using for
> >breaker/fuses for the equipment. A suggested list of DIN mountable stuff
> >I should have would be super useful if someone has it on hand. Also who
> >to order this stuff from.
> >
> >The other thing I would like to try is some kind of solar setup. Again
> >it need to be monitored remotely. Power draw would be as low as I could
> >manage. This is Oregon, so not lots of snow, but there are a lot of
> >cloudy days. Packetflux makes several items that integrate with Morning
> >Star controllers. It that a good way to go? Something like a TS-MPPT-30?
> >
> >Batteries are another thing. I'm also very curious if Lithium ion
> >batteries are feasible yet. This would need a different charger but it
> >would save a TON of space and maybe even be cost effective given the
> >smaller enclosure size that would be possible.
> >
> >Then there is the issue of what solar panels to buy.
> >
> >If anyone has any thoughts, comments, links, documents, etc. I'd really
> >appreciate it.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Duncan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there

[Chris Ruschmann]

24VH is needed on the netonix, we had weird similar issues using standard
24v ports.
On Jun 20, 2016 9:03 PM, "Judd Dare"  wrote:

> Try a different power brick.
> On Jun 20, 2016 9:47 PM, "Chadwick Wachs"  wrote:
>
>> One end is brick (the end that is having issues) and the other end is off
>> a Netonix.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Chris Ruschmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How are you powering them? Power brick or switch?
>>> On Jun 20, 2016 7:35 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there the only two radios you have ? maybe there is a physical
>>> hardware issue with one of the radios..
>>>
>>> we have seen something similar with on another link we were working on
>>> for another WISP.  No conclusions yet, but one radio is definitely doing
>>> hokey stuff...They have spares, will be trying another pair (the radios
>>> linked up on the bench, but would not link nor go thru the alignment
>>> process on a 400m link).
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chadwick Wachs" 
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
>>> *Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2016 12:47:43 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there
>>>
>>> Update to all on this.  We are running MCS1, the latest public firmware
>>> and contacted Ignite support. They are responsive.  We did get the 60 GHz
>>> radios to link up once - for about 30 minutes. Then, the 60 GHz radio on
>>> the client end died. Can't open the 60 GHz aiming tool and the dashboard
>>> acts like the radio is off.
>>> We have been through a number of reboots to get the 60 GHz radio to wake
>>> back up. No dice. Ignite is aware of the issue, acknowledges I am not the
>>> only one who has seen this but so far no solutions.  Last night, the 5 GHz
>>> link between these two radios died at 3am (not a production link).  We lost
>>> all wireless and ethernet access to the client radio until a reboot.
>>>
>>> After rebooting, the 5 GHz would not pass any traffic until the 60 GHz
>>> radios were turned off in the interface on both ends.  Both ends are on big
>>> UPSs so I don't think power is the issue, I think there is buggy firmware.
>>> While I have *some* time to deal with testing firmware and trouble
>>> shooting, I don't have unlimited time to do this.
>>>
>>> It is back running on 5 GHz. It is aimed well - we did get a solid 60
>>> GHz signal but we never got the 60's to link back up after one mysteriously
>>> stopped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Rob Genovesi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aiming takes patience, the scopes aren't perfect but a huge help.  We
>>>> found that turning off auto MCS and using fixed lower rate helped a
>>>> lot.  Make sure you have the newest firmware, I believe there are more
>>>> updates coming out soon as well.  IgniteNet support was responsive and
>>>> very helpful when we had questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner
>>>> 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I have been trying for a couple days to get a new PTP60-35 60 GHz
>>>> link up
>>>> > and running with no luck. Looking for some help / suggestions from
>>>> anyone
>>>> > who has been successful getting links up. The 5 GHz link is working
>>>> but 60
>>>> > never trains up. I bought the spotting scopes and each end is dead
>>>> center.
>>>> > Good old fashioned up/down/left/right aiming methods do not seem to
>>>> work
>>>> > either and IgniteNet is lacking in the support department.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyone want to contact me off list if you have any suggestions on what
>>>> > worked for you?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Chad
>>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there

[Chris Ruschmann]

How are you powering them? Power brick or switch?
On Jun 20, 2016 7:35 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

Are there the only two radios you have ? maybe there is a physical hardware
issue with one of the radios..

we have seen something similar with on another link we were working on for
another WISP.  No conclusions yet, but one radio is definitely doing hokey
stuff...They have spares, will be trying another pair (the radios linked up
on the bench, but would not link nor go thru the alignment process on a
400m link).

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there

Update to all on this.  We are running MCS1, the latest public firmware and
contacted Ignite support. They are responsive.  We did get the 60 GHz
radios to link up once - for about 30 minutes. Then, the 60 GHz radio on
the client end died. Can't open the 60 GHz aiming tool and the dashboard
acts like the radio is off.
We have been through a number of reboots to get the 60 GHz radio to wake
back up. No dice. Ignite is aware of the issue, acknowledges I am not the
only one who has seen this but so far no solutions.  Last night, the 5 GHz
link between these two radios died at 3am (not a production link).  We lost
all wireless and ethernet access to the client radio until a reboot.

After rebooting, the 5 GHz would not pass any traffic until the 60 GHz
radios were turned off in the interface on both ends.  Both ends are on big
UPSs so I don't think power is the issue, I think there is buggy firmware.
While I have *some* time to deal with testing firmware and trouble
shooting, I don't have unlimited time to do this.

It is back running on 5 GHz. It is aimed well - we did get a solid 60 GHz
signal but we never got the 60's to link back up after one mysteriously
stopped.



On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Rob Genovesi 
wrote:

> Aiming takes patience, the scopes aren't perfect but a huge help.  We
> found that turning off auto MCS and using fixed lower rate helped a
> lot.  Make sure you have the newest firmware, I believe there are more
> updates coming out soon as well.  IgniteNet support was responsive and
> very helpful when we had questions.
>
>
> Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner
> 650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
> wrote:
> > I have been trying for a couple days to get a new PTP60-35 60 GHz link up
> > and running with no luck. Looking for some help / suggestions from anyone
> > who has been successful getting links up. The 5 GHz link is working but
> 60
> > never trains up. I bought the spotting scopes and each end is dead
> center.
> > Good old fashioned up/down/left/right aiming methods do not seem to work
> > either and IgniteNet is lacking in the support department.
> >
> > Anyone want to contact me off list if you have any suggestions on what
> > worked for you?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chad
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Chris Ruschmann]

We all had to sign an NDA. So I'll let the baicells guys answer that one.
On Jun 17, 2016 9:05 PM,  wrote:

Whats the pricing like?

On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:12, Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/thewirelessninja/videos/1017353051688688/

On Jun 17, 2016, at 21:07, Christian Palecek 
wrote:

Ours*  brain fart.

We are deploying in one of our most difficult nlos areas, and another in a
small town center so we'll have a variety of testing.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: Christian Palecek 
Date: 6/17/16 7:02 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

We'll have ares up pretty quick, don't have a SU yet though.  Only getting
one I guess.



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From: Chris Ruschmann 
Date: 6/17/16 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the gear today.
On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis"  wrote:

> By: Douglas Adams
> "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins
> because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-while
> all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good
> time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far
> more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reason."
>
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly Technologies
> Internet - Voip - Cloud
> 251-517-5069
> http://jmfsolutions.net
> http://wavefly.com
>
> On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Anxiously awaiting your results...and a quote!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Mike Francis 
> wrote:
>
>> We received our first shipment of gear this week and plan on beginning
>> deployment next week. Will let you guys know. We are doing a mix-use
>> test roll out with a gov cyber task force, so it will be well documented.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> John Michael Francis II
>> JMF Solutions, Inc
>> Wavefly Technologies
>> Internet - Voip - Cloud
>> 251-517-5069
>> http://jmfsolutions.net
>> http://wavefly.com
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> > I believe the canary would say people have deployed but can not speak
>> > yet :P  Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will forth come very
>> > soon.
>> >
>> > On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> >> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?  Care
>> >> to comment on/off list?
>> >>
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Chris Ruschmann]

I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the gear today.
On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis"  wrote:

> By: Douglas Adams
> "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins
> because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-while
> all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good
> time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far
> more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reason."
>
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly Technologies
> Internet - Voip - Cloud
> 251-517-5069
> http://jmfsolutions.net
> http://wavefly.com
>
> On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Anxiously awaiting your results...and a quote!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Mike Francis 
> wrote:
>
>> We received our first shipment of gear this week and plan on beginning
>> deployment next week. Will let you guys know. We are doing a mix-use
>> test roll out with a gov cyber task force, so it will be well documented.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> John Michael Francis II
>> JMF Solutions, Inc
>> Wavefly Technologies
>> Internet - Voip - Cloud
>> 251-517-5069
>> http://jmfsolutions.net
>> http://wavefly.com
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> > I believe the canary would say people have deployed but can not speak
>> > yet :P  Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will forth come very
>> > soon.
>> >
>> > On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> >> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?  Care
>> >> to comment on/off list?
>> >>
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>
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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Chris Ruschmann]

When I googled the rainiest places in the US, it doesn't show Alaska, But I
laugh at the places they do show and how little of rain they get compared
to us. Mine actually works better in snow.

I use Airfiber without issues. Align you link correctly and don't push the
limits and you should be fine.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:37 AM,  wrote:
>
> True throughput and longer range, plus a metal dish means real money.
>
> Daniel
>
> Gino Villarini  wrote ..
> > Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!
> >
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > President
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > www.aeronetpr.com
> > @aeronetpr
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "ben.mo...@ubnt.com" <
> ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM
> > To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
> >
> > Hi Gino -
> >
> > Initial shipments are in transit to distributors so units will be
> received in early
> > to mid January.
> >
> > MSRP is $6k/link.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gino Villarini  >
> > wrote:
> > Just got a email from UBNT
> >
> > AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx dish (40db) 256 qam 1 Gbps
> Fdx
> >
> > http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/
> >
> > No pricing or availability info, Ben?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > President
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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

Just ordered some. I’ll test these out and let people know how they are…



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Stephen Potter
*Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2014 9:51 AM
*To:* joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



I have heard good things about these:



Review:

http://www.networkcameracritic.com/?p=2041



Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Dahua-IPC-HFW4300S-Eco-Savvy-Weatherproof-Security/dp/B00H2VSTG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411617569&sr=8-1&keywords=IPC-HFW4300S





Steve P.



On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Joe Miller 
wrote:

Call these people, I just got off the phone with them myself,
http://www.netzeye.com/catalog/onvif-cameras-c-61.html I bought a couple of
the IP cameras to test out. Also, a better price point an UBNT.



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Behalf Of *Ryan McKenzie
*Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2014 9:26 AM


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Chris,

Wow that is good info.  I had no idea they had removed the RTSP.  And I was
just about to spec UBNT cams in a project using RTSP.

Have you found a good alternative?

Someone else in this thread mentioned Arecont cams.  Are they cheap and
provide RTSP?

Thanks,
Ryan McKenzie
385-215-WIFI

On 9/25/14, 10:34 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

The newer UVC cams apparently don't have it at all. And the aircam beta is
currently set to remove it for good. So your good if you never update. But
what do you do if you need another or RMA? SOL I guess...

I started a thread in the beta forums and called on UBNT to answer for
there crime and got crickets.

sent from my phone!

On Sep 25, 2014 8:18 PM, "Blair Davis"  wrote:

Do you know what firmware version lost RSTP?

Can the newer cams be rolled back to the old firmware or do I need to
return them to my supplier?

If I can't do RSTP directly from the cam, they are mostly useless to me.

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On 9/25/2014 5:57 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So
what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then
get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to
be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and
directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to waste
5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work
with Unifi Video which is lame as well.







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Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can
backhaul them in 5 ghz



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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

I haven’t found a good solution that I like yet. We’ve used Axis in the
past, and they are fantastic, but expensive L



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
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Chris,

Wow that is good info.  I had no idea they had removed the RTSP.  And I was
just about to spec UBNT cams in a project using RTSP.

Have you found a good alternative?

Someone else in this thread mentioned Arecont cams.  Are they cheap and
provide RTSP?

Thanks,
Ryan McKenzie
385-215-WIFI

On 9/25/14, 10:34 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

The newer UVC cams apparently don't have it at all. And the aircam beta is
currently set to remove it for good. So your good if you never update. But
what do you do if you need another or RMA? SOL I guess...

I started a thread in the beta forums and called on UBNT to answer for
there crime and got crickets.

sent from my phone!

On Sep 25, 2014 8:18 PM, "Blair Davis"  wrote:

Do you know what firmware version lost RSTP?

Can the newer cams be rolled back to the old firmware or do I need to
return them to my supplier?

If I can't do RSTP directly from the cam, they are mostly useless to me.

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On 9/25/2014 5:57 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:

Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So
what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then
get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to
be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and
directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to waste
5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work
with Unifi Video which is lame as well.







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Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can
backhaul them in 5 ghz



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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

The problem is that it is only retranslated from the UBNT NVR Software.



Can’t do it directly from the camera any more.



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



Awesome!  Hopefully we can get world ro snapshot.cgi again, too!





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Chris Ruschmann 
wrote:

Do you need some coffee?



What cameras are you referring to?



The old air cams will work up until the current beta with RTSP.



Unifi Video Cameras UVC, don’t have the capability outside of a re-stream
from the NVR.



Pasted from the 3.0.8 Beta Release blog:



UniFi Video 3.0.7 Beta
<http://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video-Beta-Blog/UniFi-Video-3-0-7-Beta-amp-UVC-AirCam-3-0-8-Release/ba-p/913476>
introduces
a new RTSP retranslation feature. Now you can restream video from gen1/gen2
cameras to third-party software via RTSP. See how below:







*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2014 8:08 AM


*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



The ones we have work with other software..could be wrong on that.. Hows
this, my cams at my house is working fine.



Dennis Burgess, Link Technologies, Inc.
314-735-0270



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Chris Ruschmann
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:58 PM
*To:* gmsm...@gmail.com; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So
what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then
get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to
be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and
directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to waste
5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work
with Unifi Video which is lame as well.







*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can
backhaul them in 5 ghz



Any ideas?







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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

Do you need some coffee?



What cameras are you referring to?



The old air cams will work up until the current beta with RTSP.



Unifi Video Cameras UVC, don’t have the capability outside of a re-stream
from the NVR.



Pasted from the 3.0.8 Beta Release blog:



UniFi Video 3.0.7 Beta
<http://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video-Beta-Blog/UniFi-Video-3-0-7-Beta-amp-UVC-AirCam-3-0-8-Release/ba-p/913476>
introduces
a new RTSP retranslation feature. Now you can restream video from gen1/gen2
cameras to third-party software via RTSP. See how below:







*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2014 8:08 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



The ones we have work with other software..could be wrong on that.. Hows
this, my cams at my house is working fine.



Dennis Burgess, Link Technologies, Inc.
314-735-0270



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Chris Ruschmann
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:58 PM
*To:* gmsm...@gmail.com; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So
what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then
get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to
be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and
directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to waste
5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work
with Unifi Video which is lame as well.







*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can
backhaul them in 5 ghz



Any ideas?







Gino A. Villarini

President

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www.aeronetpr.com

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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

The newer UVC cams apparently don't have it at all. And the aircam beta is
currently set to remove it for good. So your good if you never update. But
what do you do if you need another or RMA? SOL I guess...

I started a thread in the beta forums and called on UBNT to answer for
there crime and got crickets.

sent from my phone!
On Sep 25, 2014 8:18 PM, "Blair Davis"  wrote:

>  Do you know what firmware version lost RSTP?
>
> Can the newer cams be rolled back to the old firmware or do I need to
> return them to my supplier?
>
> If I can't do RSTP directly from the cam, they are mostly useless to me.
>
> --
>
>
> On 9/25/2014 5:57 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:
>
>  Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly.
> So what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server
> then get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are
> going to be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively
> and directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to
> waste 5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only
> work with Unifi Video which is lame as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams
>
>
>
> We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>  I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so
> we can backhaul them in 5 ghz
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com
>
> @aeronetpr
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Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams

[Chris Ruschmann]

Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So
what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then
get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to
be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and
directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn’t have to waste
5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work
with Unifi Video which is lame as well.







*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *LTI - Dennis Burgess
*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams



We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: )



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can
backhaul them in 5 ghz



Any ideas?







Gino A. Villarini

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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Chris Ruschmann]

Ahh. I missed that option. Thanks :)

sent from my phone!
On Aug 6, 2014 11:02 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>   AF can operate in FDD (full MW) or TDD (hdx with sync)
>
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>   From: Chris Ruschmann 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 2:02 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>
>   The frequency fail over from the dual radios is a golden bonus.
>
> I am confused how AirFiber syncs. I thought these were microwave always
> on. Not tdma
>
> GPS clock sync is not the same thing on AirFiber? How are they aware of
> each others clock cycles when colocated?
>
> sent from my phone!
> On Aug 6, 2014 9:49 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>>  Higher one way throughput.
>> More channels to choose from.
>> DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
>> External antennas.
>> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things that
>> vary like X-pol and F/B.
>> Lower power consumption.
>> Standard PoE.
>> Etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
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>>  *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>>
>> THanks Josh!
>> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
>>
>> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
>> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
>> And latency is higher than an airFiber
>>
>> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device?
>>
>> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiPOTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > submit comments for approval / additions please
>> >
>> > I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some of
>> > it I'm lazy on.
>> >
>> > TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal /
>> channel
>> > width table
>> >
>> > Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of an
>> > RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).
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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Chris Ruschmann]

The frequency fail over from the dual radios is a golden bonus.

I am confused how AirFiber syncs. I thought these were microwave always on.
Not tdma

GPS clock sync is not the same thing on AirFiber? How are they aware of
each others clock cycles when colocated?

sent from my phone!
On Aug 6, 2014 9:49 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Higher one way throughput.
> More channels to choose from.
> DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
> External antennas.
> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things that
> vary like X-pol and F/B.
> Lower power consumption.
> Standard PoE.
> Etc.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>
> THanks Josh!
> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
>
> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
> And latency is higher than an airFiber
>
> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device?
>
> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiPOTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > submit comments for approval / additions please
> >
> > I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some of
> > it I'm lazy on.
> >
> > TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / channel
> > width table
> >
> > Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of an
> > RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband experiments phase 2 funding question

[Chris Ruschmann]

I can think of one company off the top of my head that would pull a stunt
like that here in Alaska.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:50 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband experiments phase 2 funding question

It depends. I know of large ISPs with heafty cash reserves set aside for
various projects, and it wouldn't be outside of their realm of "morality"
to pull a stunt like that.

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 07/31/2014 03:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Why would you bid $1 , if you wanted to lock the area. You would have
build out already?
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
wrote:
>>
>> Deployed to.
>>
>> The whole thing sounds like a freaking play to the cable cos (imagine
that).
>>
>>  From my understanding, if you were a very large provider and wanted
>> to maintain market-share and not let a competitor build out in your
>> area with federal funding, you could submit a bid for the
>> competitor's proposed market (and a bit more) for freaking $1 for the
entire project.
>> You *would* have to have the whole project bankrolled by your
>> company, and done in something like 18 months I believe... but you
>> would theoretically "win the bid" (which conveniently, amounts bidded
>> and received are never announced).
>>
>> The bid submission system is 100% automated, from the way they
described it.
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, CIO
>> SPITwSPOTS
>> www.spitwspots.com
>>
>>> On 07/31/2014 03:10 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> So I have been reading on this topic lately
>>>
>>> On the financial side the FCC is going to fund for 10 years on monthly
installments what?
>>>
>>> All the locations on a high cost census track that you deployed or the
ones that actually subscribe?
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

[Chris Ruschmann]

We use Propay for our WISP stuff. I believe it's around 2.5

Starting up Authorize.net with processing through chase for some of our
Unifi stuff. No rates yet, still negotiating.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] credit card processors

Who are using for credit card processing, and why? What are your rates?
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully?

[Chris Ruschmann]

I don't have anything to offer, but we are planning a limited rollout of
VOIP and would be interested in feedback as well.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Brendle
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:11 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully?

Larry,

Thanks for the feedback.  I have a mix of ATAs deployed, but I am going to
make sure they all have the right DSCP flags set for Airmax to prioritize.
I will also take your advice on sniffing and include in my testing.  That
way I can make sure the flag isn't getting stripped off somewhere on my
network.

Anybody else with suggestions/info?  I welcome all input no matter how
minor or critical it may seem.

-Matt

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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:59 PM
To: WISPA General List; Matt Brendle
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:56:33 -0400
  "Matt Brendle"  wrote:
> So a question for the masses.  We are selling VoIP services and the
> number of Support Calls we get about poor performance is more than I
> would
expect.
> Our basic setup is UBNT backhauls and APs, Mikrotik infrastructure
> routers, and CISCO/Linksys ATAs.  Primarily Vitelity accounts.  We get
> complaints of choppiness and other issues, and I wanted to see what
> others are using successfully.  I am currently making a test procedure
> to try to find out where the issue is, but if anybody has success
> stories and example setups that would be great.
>

We've been doing VOIP across dsl, dedicated and wireless circuits for
years.
It's a fairly simple engineering task that is very detail oriented. Jitter
is the killer. I have and am using Cisco, Force 10, Mikrotik, UBNT, Radwin
and MRV equipment. They all work but you have to look for any possible
spot where there can be congestion and plan a way through. Mikrotik's are
particularity difficult because they don't re-order packets. You make room
by throwing something else away. Like everything Mikrotik it takes some
middle to both edges thinking.

Regularly sniff your voice traffic and be sure that the dscp/tos codes are
there. Some switches/ providers will remove them. You can build an entire
network with a pristine voice channel in it to find your voip running best
effort. I have had that happen more than once.

Also remember adding bandwidth on one link can create two or more new
congestion points someplace else. details, details, details but once you
get it right it's something to behold.

>
>
> I know that is a rather broad question, but I want to make this work
> and get our Support Calls down.
>
>
>
> Matt - NC Wireless
>
>
>

Larry Ash
Network Administrator
Mountain West Telephone
123 W 1st St.
Casper, WY 82601
Office 307 233-8387

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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over cat3 options

[Chris Ruschmann]

Look at using some VDSL2 extenders. Easiest way and we get around 70Mbps
over 1 pair.



We using theplanet extenders



http://www.dsl-warehouse.com/product_info.php?cPath=55&products_id=295&osCsid=e2bffc541684f5e30d8ffd031df783a0









*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:37 PM
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*Subject:* [WISPA] Ethernet over cat3 options



Any options for a 600’ cat3 Ethernet solution with over 50mbps capacity for
download?







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Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax

[Chris Ruschmann]

Josh is correct, Alaska has no state taxes towards wisps. Just city sales
taxes, and that's up to the city.

However, I just found out we need to have a specialty contractors license
to do communications work in the state, which is a $5000 bond.  :(


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  We're going to pull our info from local and FCC-involved legal counsel,
> as well as the borough tax office (as stated before, Alaska does not
> collect state tax). We'll forward specific information (as a de-minimus
> provider), as applies to us here in Alaska, on the WISPA-AK list for
> reference.
>
> "Forum lawyers" (and "list-lawyers") have gotten many people in serious
> trouble in the past. Thankfully, not us to this point.
>
>   *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com 
> | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 06/03/2014 07:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>  Yes, please do forward it .
>
>  I believe you are confusing a few items together...
>
>  Let me see if I can clarify:-
>
>  1. One  needs to consult your State Taxing Authority, to determine what
> type of Taxes you should be COLLECTING on behalf of the State , and
> REMITTING to them, NO TWO STATES ARE ALIKE !
>
>  2. One needs to "distinguish" between what they are selling to
> their customers !.. Internet Access  / PTP Transport / VOIP / etc. These
> three items are the most commonly taxed items. Some States it is Sales Tax,
> Other States it is Communication Taxes, there can also be a local County /
> City component... (Note: There is Federal Law on the Books which exempts
> ANY kind of Tax Collection on INTERNET SERVICE (only, it does not apply to
> PTP Transport), with the exception of what was already in place by the 10
> Grandfathered States...)
>
>  3. If you are providing VOIP services / Telephone Services or Interstate
> services, you have to File with the FCC, and they determine if you
> are Eligible for them to tax you for USF.. (Very important note.. USF is a
> TAX on Communication Services Providers ONLY... no one else, not end users,
> not customers etc However the LAW allows a Communication Carrier to
> RECOVER the USF Tax equivalent, from it's customer's Interstate / Long
> Distance services. (Lots of little if's and or buts here)..lets not get
> into the habit of confusing the tax with the recovery fee, they are
> related, but not the same !..)
>
>  4. If you are a BUYER of Long Haul Transport, and or any Voice/LD
> Services from another Carrier, You have the honor of Paying That Carrier
> their USF Recovery Fee... (This is not a tax on you !!!, but you get to pay
> it).  However if you are a USF Contributing Eligible Carrier, who is not
> de-minimus, i.e. you are sending money to USF , then you can use your 499
> ID, to get yourself OUT OF PAYING other Carriers USF Recovery Fee. (and
> there may be one or two other entities with similar exemptions).
>
>
>  One has to be very careful when using the word TAX as in State Taxes or
> Federal Taxes, because if these are not Collected and Remitted in the
> prescribed manner, one is guilt of a very big crimeThis is the major
> reason why a lot of Telecom Bills will list extra items as FEES... not
> TAXES
>
>  Hope this helps. Sorry to come across harsh and blunt, but what you
> originally wrote, was totally off...
>
>  Regards.
>
>  Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
>  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>  --
>
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:21:46 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax
>
>  I am going to forward this to both our FCC lawyer, and local lawyer, to
> get their opinions on this.
>
> We've been down this road several years ago I believe. I'll let everyone
> know the results.
>
> For the records, we do not have interstate transport to us, just
> intrastate, so we don't pay into any USF funds in any way, shape, or
> form... at least not directly. Nor are we a VOIP
>
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Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage

[Chris Ruschmann]

I thought conntrack only work for nanostations setup in router mode?



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben West
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage



If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the
Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active
connections:

cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack

If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to
filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep:

grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack

grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP


This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too.
Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as
well.  This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel.



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas  wrote:

Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second.

That upstream number looks high for Netflix.

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On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM "~NGL~"  wrote:

I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last
18 hours.



What does a smart TV use?



What can they be doing?



NGL



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Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage

[Chris Ruschmann]

TCPdump that is. Not netstat



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:18 AM
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How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash?  netstat would be
pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Horsepoopy

tcpdump / netstat / iptraf

See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once
upon a time, people actually knew how to use it.



*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
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On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet
capture some how.



Mikrotik would make this much much much easier.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations?

*From:* Ben West 

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM

*To:* WISPA General List 

*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage



Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how
the client is set up.  Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP
connections?



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last
18 hours.



What does a smart TV use?



What can they be doing?



NGL



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Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage

[Chris Ruschmann]

I do this all the time in bridged mode. Not hard at all...



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:18 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage



How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash?  netstat would be
pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Horsepoopy

tcpdump / netstat / iptraf

See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once
upon a time, people actually knew how to use it.



*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet
capture some how.



Mikrotik would make this much much much easier.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations?

*From:* Ben West 

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM

*To:* WISPA General List 

*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage



Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how
the client is set up.  Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP
connections?



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last
18 hours.



What does a smart TV use?



What can they be doing?



NGL



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Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax

[Chris Ruschmann]

I bought this from Amazon earlier this year. Works well enough. Same as you
are looking at just more plugs I believe.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JUYPKQ/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1





I also use this for anything else wireline wise. It's the best toner I have
ever used. Well worth it.



http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-MT-8200-50A-IntelliTone-100/dp/B0001FSCRW/ref=sr_1_32?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1390941141&sr=1-32&keywords=fluke





At some point I will be moving to this kit and hand down the above gear to
our techs. More wishful thinking though J



http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-MS2-KIT-MicroScanner2-Professional/dp/B000QJ6S06/ref=pd_sim_indust_99



Regards,

Chris Ruschmann



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:27 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax



Did you actually look at the link? :)

No, I'm not looking for a generalized tester. I'm looking for a device with
multiple numbered/colored rj45 plugs. You take the plugs and plug them into
outlets, then take the tester to the patch panel. When you plug in the
tester to each port on the patch panel, it tells you what numbered/colored
plug is on the other end.

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 01/28/2014 11:24 AM, timothy steele wrote:

Are you just wanting a simple tester?

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options):
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1

If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required.

I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and
thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs.

Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect
their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these.

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Chris Ruschmann]

I think that depends on how far away the mountain is from base, how long
you stay on top of the mountain and whether or not the helicopter is still
running while you are working due to the cold and altitude. An hour in a
helicopter in Alaska runs about $1800 last I checked and they bill in 15
minute increments only when the engine is  running. One of my clients is a
Temsco Helicopters in Juneau ;)


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Christopher Erickson
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:12 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

We never found a good, reliable TEG for Alaskan environments.

One device that is showing a lot of promise for Alaskan environments is
the Sterling external combustion engine, running on diesel.  No
installations yet but testing continues.

http://www.whispergen-europe.com/

In Alaska we often used micro-filtered #2 diesel fuel and inside, heated
auxiliary holding tanks with redundant pumps.

We also installed dual 6kw, deep-sump gennies with a smart controller that
did exercising and supported fail-over operation.

One helicopter flight to an Alaskan mountain top typically cost about
$10,000.

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Lyon
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Chris,

Besides GlobalLTE, who else makes a decent TEG?

Thanks,
Mike



> On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:20, Christopher Erickson
 wrote:
>
> Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is.
>
> Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane gas
pressure
> regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F.
>
> This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important to
> know what the limits are.
>
> Christopher Erickson
> Consulting Engineer
> Summit Kinetics
> Waikoloa, HI 96738
> www.summitkinetics.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Terry Hickey
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:06 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
>
> I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before
> I
sold
>
> the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts,
> very little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they
> just
work
> . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well.
>
> Terry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: D. Ryan Spott
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
>
> Who was this from?
>
> Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.
>
> ryan
>
>> On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
>> So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
>> plus a $300 mount.
>>
>>
>> It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
>> Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...
>>
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