RE: [WISPA] CPE Cost Ideas Needed
Joshua, We originally charged a $200 install and a $150 install for business…That was 4 years ago and was based on DSL just becoming available in my area. Since then, cable has become available. Both DSL and cable have become cheaper and offer free installs. Even with DSL and cable offering free installs, and short term commitments, I still get $200 for install for a 12 month agreement, $100 for 24 months and free for 36 months. All of the install fees are typically based on a $89.95 per month access charge. A 4 year agreement is to ‘scary’ for most subscribers; especially with the rate this technology has changed. Each market is different. Get what you can while you can. What does your competitive market look like? - Cliff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Andrews Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:16 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] CPE Cost Ideas Needed I'm about to get my first WISP up and running but the major factor that's holding me back is the initial cost of the CPE's. I've decided to go with WaveWireless (formerly WaveRider) 900Mhz but the lowest prices are around $350 or so. I've been thinking of pitching the service by saying the following: Option 1: 1 Year Contract and install is $295.95. Option 2: 2 Year Contract and install is $195.95. Option 3: 3 Year Contract and install is $99.95. Option 4: 4 Year Contract and install is FREE. Anybody else have any suggestions to help offset the initial cost per customer in this regard? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Joshua M. Andrews Support Corps of America www.SupportCorps.us -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] So you want cheap CPE huh?
Chinese cookware turned wisp equipment http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :) Qty 2 - SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Please contact me off-list. Thanks, Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
No Paul, but I will look at them. Thanks, Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Have you considered the EMP-8602 instead? Cheaper, newer chipset and supports a, b and g (100mW, 400mW and 400mW). Not used them myself but have heard good things from people who have. Paul Hendry Skyline Networks http://www.skyline-networks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 10 May 2006 23:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Defacto Wireless has them in stock as of 2pm www.defactowireless.com Cliff Leboeuf wrote: > I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :) > > > > Qty 2 - SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO > > > > Please contact me off-list. > > > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 09/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 10/05/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating "Good". Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices > You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet > neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability > protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars > it takes to incorporate. > > -Matt > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating "Good". Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices > You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet > neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability > protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars > it takes to incorporate. > > -Matt > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating "Good". Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices > You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet > neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability > protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars > it takes to incorporate. > > -Matt > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since you shared with me! When you going out of town again? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you though ! Cliff's nickname is "Scratchy" by the way ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating "Good". Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices > You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet > neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability > protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars > it takes to incorporate. > > -Matt > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Coming soon: The Web toll
CNN Report… http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/the.web.toll/index.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
Ooooh what a beautiful mnnniiiggg Ooooh what a beautiful dayy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006 I don't think anyone is condoning anything Lonnie. But I am trying to defuse the issue without pissing both of you off. George Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > You miss the point George. I am not fighting. I called Johnny on his > actions and he immediately went personal and abusive. I rarely speak > up anymore but I thought this was a critical misuse of the list. > > Are you saying it is appropriate for everyone to forward their spam to > this list and use offensive language as they ask if anyone else got > the spam? Is it then appropriate to try and defend one's actions by > slandering a whole lot of people based on their country? > > Is this what WISPA is about and do the members condone such behaviour? > > Lonnie > > On 6/4/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> At least you apologized Johnny, but it does get old watching people >> fight. >> >> Can't you guys just agree to not get along and ignore each other? >> >> George >> >> JohnnyO wrote: >> > Lonnie - my experiences and my opinions of Canadian companies are that >> > of my own. Apparently you're looking to make an ass out of both you and >> > I or else you wouldn't have responded the way you did Slander - not >> > even close. >> > >> > I KNOW DragonWave Harvested this list - Just like Tranzeo has harvested >> > this list as well in the past...and so has Trango ... They are Canadian >> > Companies who are spamming from the list addresses as of late. Should I >> > expect some email from StarOS anytime soon ? >> > >> > I won't continue this any further and if I offended you by asking the >> > list if the pricks at DragonWave (my opinion solely) are spamming >> others >> > as well, my appologies. >> > >> > If you don't accept my appology, you leave me no other choice then to >> > plea temporary insanity and appologize for my verbal offense which I >> did >> > not realize I committed nor was I aware of any such actions and any >> > future repetition of the above said that I may not be aware of. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > JohnnyO >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler >> > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:03 AM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006 >> > >> > >> > To the Board: >> > >> > Is this behaviour condoned? Not only did he spam the list and use >> > offensive language, but he now slanders all Canadian companies. >> > >> > Lonnie >> > >> > On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >>Ahhh my old good friend Lonnie :) How are you these days ? Get a clue >> >>. I did - don't buy from Canadian companies - they'll bend you >> >>over every chance they get :) >> >> >> >>Prick : please see >> >>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick for a better run >> >>down on the term Lonnie. I did watch my language. Don't be so >> >>sensitive unless you fit the shoes... >> >> >> >>I know I do ! >> >> >> >> >> >>JohnnyO >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler >> >>Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:53 PM >> >>To: WISPA General List >> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006 >> >> >> >>If you object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth >> >>would you send that spam to a list? Get a clue. Also, watch your >> >>language. >> >> >> >>Lonnie >> >> >> >> >> >>On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Anyone Else receiving these from these pricks ? >> >>> >> >>>JohnnyO >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-Original Message- >> >>>From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PM >> >>>To: 'Chris Russell' >> >>>Cc: WISPA General List >> >>>Subject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Please do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be >> >>>removed >> >> >> >>from any and ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online >> >>forum/lists immediately. I've asked numerous times without any >> >>success. >> >> >> >>>Regards, >> >>> >> >>>JohnnyO >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Lonnie Nunweiler >> >>Valemount Networks Corporation >> >>http://www.star-os.com/ >> >> >> >>-- >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >>Archiv
RE: Notice to the Board..... Was: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent aboutthis?
I thought tomorrow was 6-6-6! If 6-4-6 made this list so active, I can hardly wait for 6-6-6. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Notice to the Board. Was: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent aboutthis? DANG MAN!! I can't believe the board is paying for a Tarot card reader - - is she still alive? Or do y'all consult her from the grave? I ask this because if you are consulting her from the grave you better be careful as George Carlin was showing up here a while back in place of our dead Tarot card reader. He thought it was funny to come back and try to scare us :-) We have moved back to the lucky Rabbits foot, a necklace made of Alligator paws and Chicken feet. I have yet to figure out what's lucky about a Rabbit, an Alligator or a Chicken that has lost its limbs? Damn - - - Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Notice to the Board. Was: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? Sheesh.Here we go again. WISPA needs a Prescription plan with automatic renewals and 24 hour nursing so members will take their medication on time. Also looks like WISPA needs to fire that new Crystal Ball Reader they just hired. Another attack on the industry just got by us without her letting us know. Sure is a shame one of the members couldn't have brought it to WISPA's attention in a more mature, informative way like most members do. After all, that is a responsibility of the membership. It's also a shame that more people don't just step up to the plate and help with these issues instead of just attacking the small handful of people ( and I mean SMALL) that are doing it. But I guess with all those big paychecks the board members are making they should be doing all the work! Thankfully the Feds send us money personally just so we won't rock the boat on issues like these -B- DISCLAIMER: WISPA does not have a Crystal Ball Reader. We have a Tarrot Card Reader. She was cheaper and more fun to watch work. The Board Members do not get paid any compensation. They get all their personal satisfaction seeing that members such as George really appreciate what they are doing for him and his business. And the Fed's never sent us (past and present board members) any financial compensation. They did say that we could make Alberto Gonzales our legal adviser pro bono though.. -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Dave asked - Why should I send $250 to WISPA?
Dave, You ask "Why should I send $250 to WISPA?" I assume that you do benefit from the WISPA list, otherwise you wouldn't take the time to monitor the posts. Just the information that is available on the list is worth $250 per year to me! I only have so many hours in a day that I can work and play. Having so many other individuals' eyes and ears watching the market for me is in itself worth the membership! Oh yea, the WIAPS list is free therefore why should I send WISPA any money; right! By sending WISPA your membership, at a minimum, you will be helping those that incur the expense of providing this 'free' forum keep doing so. Also, there is more detailed sharing amongst the paid members -- contracts, agreements, and other ideas that don't make the 'free' list. For less than $1 per day, you and others, can surely afford to help keep this list 'free' and maybe even help 'fund' existing and future battles that may need to be waged that require money that WISPA may use for your benefit. The few really active members could probably use help offsetting their personal expenses when the fight for your interest. If WISPA decides to help offset these efforts with my membership, that fine with me as it is cheaper for me to kick in membership fees rather than take time off of work, pay for travel and accommodations to argue a point that I feel someone else is more knowledgeable than me about. This is just my lowly 2 cents worth. I'm sure that other more informed 'paid' members can tell you why they think it is worth the membership fee. What would YOU like to see for your $250 membership fee? Respectfully, - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? I agree with your sentiments completely. One needs to ask, though, "why aren't ISPs supporting WISPA?" The answer is more than likely the same answer most small businesses give when asked why they don't join industry associations: it's not worthwhile... it costs more money than the benefits of membership are worth. My company is not a member of WISPA. And at this point, I don't see what benefit membership in WISPA would give me. I'm a believer in the strength of numbers and joining ranks for greater good. That's why I support NFIB and USIIA, as well as local organizations in my state and community. Why should I send $250 to WISPA? Dave 989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mercury.net 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? > The problem with all of this is that most ISP's wireless or land line > historically do not get involved in a trade association and work > together for the common good. > > Land line ISP's didn't join together and wisps are not joining together > either. > > Here WISPA has been created and hardly anyone is taking advantage of > joining WISPA and trying to get anything done. > > This is the sad thing that is discouraging, that an organization has > been created and nobody is taking advantage of it. > It's also discouraging to hear that some people say or imply that WISPA > is a good old boys club run by insiders, when in actuality WISPA is an > organization "wide open" that just about anyone in the wisp business can > join run for office get elected and take charge. > > Very disappointing, and this is what makes me scream when I hear posts > like Roberts the other day accusing board members of getting paid with > perks or Marks suggestion this morning that the board is on the inside > with this stuff. > > You guys, the wisps that are out in the fields doing the wisp business > should be trying harder to get the entire wisp community to join this > organization and to get something accomplished. > > My "poll" for a working group for muni wireless had 2 respondents. > Only 2 wisps are interested or think they need help with muni wireless? > Hard to believe. > > > > -- > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX
I have a customer looking for service in Vider, TX. If you can supply service to that area, please contact me off-list. - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX
Title: Message JohnnyO, what part of ‘off-list’ do you not understand :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX Vidor ? How large is this monthly account ? If it's worthwhile - I have a tower in that area we could slap service up on. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX I have a customer looking for service in Vider, TX. If you can supply service to that area, please contact me off-list. - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX
Title: Message BTW…They have their own tower. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX Vidor ? How large is this monthly account ? If it's worthwhile - I have a tower in that area we could slap service up on. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX I have a customer looking for service in Vider, TX. If you can supply service to that area, please contact me off-list. - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
I recently purchased one of these... On its maiden trip, the technician cracked the LCD screen...:( I sent to Germany for repair and it is currently 'stuck' in customs where they are trying to assess import duties on the unit for repair! I really never got the chance to evaluate, but may be interested in a group order also. Please keep me in the loop as to the cost and when/where we should place our order. It may actually be cheaper for me to just purchase a replacement instead of paying for the repair. BTW - has anyone else used one of these that can provide a recommendation on it? - Cliff On 6/15/06 10:31 AM, "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Been there, done that. It was one of my reasons for posting here. To > get feedback and maybe spark interest for a couple more buyers. 4 more > are needed to get 25% off. > > Brian > > Patrick Shoemaker wrote: > >> There is a group purchase for these going on over at the Broadband >> Reports WISP forum. >> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16213716~mode=flat >> >> I will be purchasing one to try it out. I figure for about $1000 it >> ought to be worth it, especially for WISP use. I expect some clumsy >> features and inconveniences, but I'm willing to live with that for the >> price. With the group purchase we will save a couple hundred bucks. >> If you're interested, get in touch with John (binary1000) quickly as >> he will be placing orders soon. >> >> Patrick >> >> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >>> I am looking at the Spectran HF-4080. looks like a nice little handheld >>> >>> Spectrum Analyzer for the price. >>> >>> http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml#(look >>> bottom left) >>> >>> With the extra ram for plotting, it is about $1000 US. >>> >>> Is it as good piece of hardware for the price? >>> >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
Jack, I tried...but the unit was broken by my tech on the first trip in the field. :) However, I am willing to purchase another if needed and especially if it will help meet the buying discount threshold :) - Cliff On 6/15/06 12:42 PM, "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff, > > I don't know of anyone who has used one of these yet so my hat's off to > you - thanks for being willing to do the testing and assessment for the > rest of us! > jack > > P.S. - I guess we need a U.S. distributor, right? > > Cliff Leboeuf wrote: > >> I recently purchased one of these... >> On its maiden trip, the technician cracked the LCD screen...:( >> >> I sent to Germany for repair and it is currently 'stuck' in customs where >> they are trying to assess import duties on the unit for repair! >> >> I really never got the chance to evaluate, but may be interested in a group >> order also. >> >> Please keep me in the loop as to the cost and when/where we should place our >> order. >> >> It may actually be cheaper for me to just purchase a replacement instead of >> paying for the repair. >> >> BTW - has anyone else used one of these that can provide a recommendation on >> it? >> >> - Cliff >> >> >> On 6/15/06 10:31 AM, "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Been there, done that. It was one of my reasons for posting here. To >>> get feedback and maybe spark interest for a couple more buyers. 4 more >>> are needed to get 25% off. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> There is a group purchase for these going on over at the Broadband >>>> Reports WISP forum. >>>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16213716~mode=flat >>>> >>>> I will be purchasing one to try it out. I figure for about $1000 it >>>> ought to be worth it, especially for WISP use. I expect some clumsy >>>> features and inconveniences, but I'm willing to live with that for the >>>> price. With the group purchase we will save a couple hundred bucks. >>>> If you're interested, get in touch with John (binary1000) quickly as >>>> he will be placing orders soon. >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I am looking at the Spectran HF-4080. looks like a nice little handheld >>>>> >>>>> Spectrum Analyzer for the price. >>>>> >>>>> http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml#(look >>>>> bottom left) >>>>> >>>>> With the extra ram for plotting, it is about $1000 US. >>>>> >>>>> Is it as good piece of hardware for the price? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Orleans
Title: Re: [WISPA] New Orleans Walter, who you looking for in New Orleans? I’m about 50 miles to the SW. On 7/11/06 8:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am down here for 2 days-any one else around? Walter W. Stumpf Jr. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Orleans
Title: Re: [WISPA] New Orleans Mac, Walter seemed to be a sales rep... I was hoping to send him over the edge. :) There really is nothing South of New Orleans. (hehe) - Cliff On 7/11/06 9:26 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cliff, You know you are going to confuse folks by telling them you are South of New Orleans! That is supposed to be the Gulf J The majority of mankind don’t realize you can drive for hours South of New Orleans. (Although it’s not recommended) Mac From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Orleans Walter, who you looking for in New Orleans? I’m about 50 miles to the SW. On 7/11/06 8:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am down here for 2 days-any one else around? Walter W. Stumpf Jr. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Service
Title: Wireless Service I have a customer looking for Internet service: 12237 FM 2466 Franklin, TX 77856 Any takers? Contact me off-list. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor Day. > It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. > Bring your fishing pole...etc > > All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! > > Mac Dearman > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out! Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc. - Cliff On 7/13/06 8:13 AM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff, > > You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get > here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know > that Y'all are all special :-) > > Mac > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock > > Mac, I would be interested in attending... > How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) > > > > On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor > Day. >> It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just > enjoy. >> Bring your fishing pole...etc >> >> All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! >> >> Mac Dearman >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Field Techs & Non-Standard Installations
John, Has this information been sent to the 'paid' member list? I don't remember seeing it there. - Cliff On 7/20/06 6:45 PM, "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dori, > Please send a copy of MVN's Wireless Subscriber Agreement to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] That address is only paid WISPA Principle Members. I > want to make it clear to all of you that I am sharing this only as a > reference of what I am doing. I do not warranty the use of this document > in any way. I also insist that this document not be given to anyone > other than WISPA paid members. > Scriv > > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> Can someone post me their install agreements? If your a WISPA member, >> post it to the members list. >> >> N White wrote: >> >>> We charge $85/hour for anything after standard installation. Standard >>> installation includes installing and configuring the CPE and any >>> customer computers that are present at the time of installation, >>> including a installation of a router or switch if necessary. It does >>> not include trenches, masts, custom wiring runs (attic, crawlspace, >>> etc), or troubleshooting client PC problems. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> KyWiFi LLC wrote: >>> We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc. How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20 to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === >>> >>> >>> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web site update
Matt, I like the new site a lot! On 8/7/06 3:47 PM, "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Matt Larsen for your hard work. > http://www.wispa.org/ > > George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Travis, do you remember the term 'fuzzy math'? On 8/7/06 10:59 PM, "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up > internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year > for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more > online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses > going out of business. Am I missing something? > > Travis > Microserv > > John Scrivner wrote: > >> This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he >> has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of >> what I have been saying. >> Scriv >> >> >> *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN >> RURAL AREAS * >> >> Friday, August 4, 2006 >> >> [WASHINGTON, DC] U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national >> policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet >> service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed >> internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced >> legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage >> the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet >> service, especially in rural areas. >> >> ³Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at >> home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and >> electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high >> speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses >> need traditional utility services,² said Durbin. ³Yet, for too many >> people living in small communities today, broadband access is still >> not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me >> that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no >> service available to them right now. My bill will change that.² >> >> Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce >> and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture found that rural >> and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately >> half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected >> research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, >> found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of >> rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of >> urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: >> Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have >> home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. >> >> Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic >> development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves >> productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in >> every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of >> current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product >> by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year >> over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could >> be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. >> >> ³We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans >> are not left behind in the 21st Century¹s digital economy,² Durbin >> noted. ³Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, >> wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future >> broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.² >> >> Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed >> to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in >> rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those >> concerns. >> >> Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program >> specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops >> working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their >> communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic >> institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to >> identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. >> Projects to be funded through this new program will include >> feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities >> done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the >> scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the >> particular unserved area. >> >> Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan >> program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the >> construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in >> rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin¹s bill does three >> things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life >> of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the >> program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; a
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill toencouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]
So David, I guess it is fair for me to assume that you don't agree the the government paying some NOT to grow wheat or NOT to raise pigs so that those that DO can survive on a reasonable profit margin and not be flooded by over production creating too much product for not enough demand...? :) On 8/9/06 8:57 AM, "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since when do the people on this list support taxation, waste, and > government subsidies? Why should the burden of providing high-speed > Internet to people in underserved (typically rural) areas fall on the > shoulders of taxpayers? I don't want my taxes to pay to expand your network > or for Joe User to get your service. > > If people want services, they should live in a city. If they want to live > in rural areas, they should do so with the understanding that services > (water, sewer, EMS, schools, cable, high-speed Internet, just about anything > and everything) are harder to come by and sometimes more expensive. No one > makes people live in the country. People choose to on their own, and they > should take responsibility for the costs and/or lack of services associated > with that decision. > > Just my own 2 cents. > > Dave > > 989-837-3790 x 151 > 989-837-3780 fax > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.mercury.net > > 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 > - Original Message - > From: "Chadd Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill > toencouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas] > > >> IMO they need to start giving money to the end users to pay for hookup and >> installation. Stop paying to expand WISP's networks and give the money > where >> it is needed, if you want a bigger network pay for it out of your own >> pocket. In IL I doubt you could drive from Chicago to St.Louis and not be >> able to hook up to a WISP. >> >> >> Give money to the people who need to put up a 45ft tower to get access. >> >> Thanks, >> Chadd >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:54 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to >>> encouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas] >>> >>> >>> Don't forget the 3rd great lie..."I'm from the government and I'm >>> here to help >>> you" >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> Jeff Broadwick >>> ImageStream >>> 800-813-5123 x106 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces billtoencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]
our 7 year > old daughter walk downtown for a candy bar. Alone. We know we can (and do) > leave the keys in the car. Heck, I leave my wallet in my car, unlocked. We > don't lock our house, don't have to. We know that the chances of our kids > being murdered or assaulted is much lower than in the city. Out here, > sexual predators usually last weeks in the community. They don't stick > around. > > Know what else is true about my little town? We have MORE broadband options > than most of you in the city have. Usually at lower prices and higher > speeds too. > > I don't want government money to build out my network. I've seen what > happens when they get their hooks into you and/or your business. We could > have had food stamps, free government health care etc. All of that would > sure have made life easier and our business could have grown faster with > less debt. What we've done we've not down on YOUR dime. But my competitors > get YOUR money. Should they be the only ones that do? I'd like nothing > better than to see their funds shut off. That's not gonna happen though, > the closest I can do to level the playing field and stay in business is to > get some of the money too. > > When you've got your house, retirement, college money, everything on the > line, what are you gonna do? > > I hope that helps explain more about what really effects decisions that get > made here on the farm. > > Oh yeah, I spent a decade in the big city with a real job. You can stay > there with the crime, the filth, the disease and the threat of terrorism. > It'll take one hell of a big carrot before I'm gonna go back to that kinda > stress. grin > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:30 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces > billtoencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas] > > >> Your assumption is correct. Using your example of wheat, if you let free >> markets operate, then farmers who couldn't survive growing wheat would >> stop >> growing wheat and switch to a crop that would make them more money. I >> believe that all government subsidies should be eliminated and that we >> should pay market prices for goods and services. Government subsidies are >> nothing more than price manipulation and welfare for businesses. They >> cost >> taxpayers more money than it would if we just paid the market price for >> products and services, because there is the added cost of government >> oversight and dispursement of funds. >> >> Dave >> >> 989-837-3790 x 151 >> 989-837-3780 fax >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.mercury.net >> >> 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cliff Leboeuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces >> billtoencouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas] >> >> >>> So David, >>> >>> I guess it is fair for me to assume that you don't agree the the >> government >>> paying some NOT to grow wheat or NOT to raise pigs so that those that DO >> can >>> survive on a reasonable profit margin and not be flooded by over >> production >>> creating too much product for not enough demand...? >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> On 8/9/06 8:57 AM, "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Since when do the people on this list support taxation, waste, and >>>> government subsidies? Why should the burden of providing high-speed >>>> Internet to people in underserved (typically rural) areas fall on the >>>> shoulders of taxpayers? I don't want my taxes to pay to expand your >> network >>>> or for Joe User to get your service. >>>> >>>> If people want services, they should live in a city. If they want to >> live >>>> in rural areas, they should do so with the understanding that services >>>> (water, sewer, EMS, schools,
Re: [WISPA] Service near Orlando/Kissimmee, FL
Tom, I would like to think that Brian is setting the 'proper' expectations from the beginning. Only if I had done so... :-) On 8/11/06 5:30 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you trying to get divorsed already? :-) > > I assume "honeymoon", means you just got married. Congradulations. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" ; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:28 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Service near Orlando/Kissimmee, FL > > >> Hey everyone, I will be on my honeymoon for a week in Kissimmee, FL. >> Anyone in the area? Hit me offlist and we can do lunch or something. >> >> Brian >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for DS3 Network Extender
Title: Looking for DS3 Network Extender I am looking for the following: Net2Net DNE4500-S Or LAN Media DS3 interface card. If anyone has either that they want to part with, please contact me off-list with price and availability. - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: [Wisp] Looking for Trango Equipment (New or used)
Title: FW: [Wisp] Looking for Trango Equipment (New or used) Before I go and buy direct, does anyone have any new or used Trango 5830SU-EXT’s for sale? Qty 2 or 3. I’m also looking for a 15-24” panel or dish for the same radio. Hit me off-list if you are interested with price and and details. - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
Can I have an AMEN! Woo Hoo! On 8/17/06 2:03 PM, "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calm down kids!! > > First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing > some self-control. Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make a > request to change the name of the thread. FWIW, Lonnie did NOT hijack > this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up their > experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded. That is entirely > appropriate. There would not be a response like George's if you didn't > have a history of pissing people off on this and other lists. What > George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs that won't > subscribe to a list of you are on it. I'm not going to go into details > here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you want a > breakdown. Also it is not George's responsibility to manage posts and > subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list management. > > Second, to George. I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on the > lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond to > JohnnyO offlist. I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, just a > slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of people > who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each other. > Not a big deal at all. > > Finally, to everyone... > > I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the > WISPA lists, and I hope we continue to build that sense of community. > I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see some > legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged between the > members. Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most useful one to me > by FAR, and that is not something that happened overnight. It has taken > some time and unfortunately we do still have to try to put people in > their place when things get a little too out of hand, but overall I > think that we have done a very good job of maintaining the balance > between total control and anarchy. > > Peace out, > > Matt Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > JohnnyO wrote: >> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, >> then you fall under the same category. >> >> I guess it's ok for a vendor to hijack threads to promote his own stuff >> ? The thread was about the Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my >> opinion and I will post my opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you >> to practice DICTATORSHIP ? >> >> I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS >> crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I >> would look for posts labled Star-OS ! >> >> Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject lines >> of the threads. >> >> I do have an opinion and am a paying member. >> >> Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out >> bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof. >> >> I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and will >> continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and also >> Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer service >> or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I "slammed" a >> vendor on WISPA. >> >> JohnnyO >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of George Rogato >> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 >> >> >> >>> *Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products. >>> We shouldn't punish him for it because after all, he is canadian ! :)~ >>> >>> JohnnyO >>> >> >> Johnny.. Where do you come from that you think it is ok to practice >> Bigotry. >> >> On this list, it is not ok to be a bigot. >> >> >> We have had numerous people complain about your slams. Some are vendors >> who have said they will not contribute financially and others were wisps >> >> who will not subscribe to a list that your on. >> >> I am going to ask the board to consider removing your posting >> privileges. >> >> >> George >> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Appology for the Canadian Remark
Why off-list? :-) On 8/17/06 6:30 PM, "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment. > Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a > thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with > the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited. > > Bash me offlist if needed. > > JohnnyO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rick Harnish > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED] > > > Better late than never! This Thread is closed. Start a new thread if > you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline > discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and > concerns have been voiced. > > Rick Harnish > President > Supernova Technologies, Inc. > 260-827-2482 > Founding Member of WISPA > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 > > Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact > > same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree > with everything you said here. > :-) > Scriv > > > > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > >> Calm down kids!! >> >> First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing >> some self-control. Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make >> a request to change the name of the thread. FWIW, Lonnie did NOT >> hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up > >> their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded. That is >> entirely appropriate. There would not be a response like George's if >> you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other >> lists. What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs > >> that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it. I'm not going to go >> into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you >> want a breakdown. Also it is not George's responsibility to manage >> posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list >> management. >> >> Second, to George. I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on >> the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond >> to JohnnyO offlist. I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, >> just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of > >> people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each >> other. Not a big deal at all. >> >> Finally, to everyone... >> >> I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the >> WISPA lists, and I hope we continue to build that sense of >> community. I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see >> some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged >> between the members. Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most >> useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened >> overnight. It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have >> to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out >> of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of >> maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy. >> Peace out, >> >> Matt Larsen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> JohnnyO wrote: >> >>> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, >>> then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor >>> to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the > >>> Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my > >>> opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP >>> ? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and >>> Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of >>> Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! >>> Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject > lines >>> of the threads. >>> >>> I do have an opinion and am a paying member. >>> >>> Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out >>> bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof. >>> >>> I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and >>> will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and >>> also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer >>> service or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I >>> "slammed" a vendor on WISPA. >>> >>> JohnnyO >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of George Rogato >>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>>
Re: [WISPA] VOIP consultants?
I too would give Peter a high recommendation. Peter has EARNED my loyalty more than once. He has a wealth of knowledge, diverse portfolio and is in the deal for the long-term relationship -- not the immediate sale! - Cliff On 8/18/06 7:09 AM, "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd recommend "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who is both knowledge and > has relationships with many VoIP providers. > > -Matt > > Chadd Thompson wrote: >> Anyone know of any VOIP consultants? >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for High-Speed Internet
Title: Looking for High-Speed Internet Can anyone serve the following with high-speed Internet. Contact me off list and I’ll reply with name to contact directly. 1002 500th St. Northwood, IA 50459 641-324-0634 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WHY?
Title: Re: [WISPA] WHY? Right, start trying to charge BB for that! Next, they will require you to ‘buy’ an ISP license to operate to ‘pay you’ your co-lo fees. :-) On 8/24/06 3:23 PM, "Scott Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know that I can even do that much, but I agree, it is not for me to fund data collection for the government. If they want data collected, I can make a switch port available and charge them co-location fees to house a system they provide. As long as there is a law or court order, I have no problem with that. Otherwise, the data collected will get thrown out of many courts anyway. No probably cause to be watching. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:27:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY? > IMHO, this is real simple.. > > If you give me an IP, in near real-time or for a few months after, I can > give you a user name and address, unless it was a free, public access > use at one of our hotspots, in which case you are SOL. If it is 6 > months ago or longer, if the user is still a customer, I can give you a > name and address. If they have terminated service and paid their bill > in full, you are again SOL. > > Beyond that, I can't tell you anything. I do not track where my users > go or what they do or who they IM to, or who they email. It is none of > my business and I resent the .gov trying to make me an unpaid cop. If > the .gov wants this data, they can pay for it... and the equipment > and the data storage... and the bandwidth and my time > > The only thing we track is virus and spam traffic. And that only for > defending network integrity. Those logs die if not looked at in 24-48 > hours > > -- > Blair Davis > > AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 > > West Michigan Wireless ISP > 269-686-8648 > > A division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Portales
Probably looking for FREE access... :-) On 9/4/06 1:48 PM, "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What the heck are you doing over there??? > > > > > +++ > neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington > email me at mark at neofast dot net > 541-969-8200 > Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net > > - Original Message - > From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:57 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Portales > > >> Who is the WISP near Portales, NM ? >> >> JohnnyO >> > > > > > > >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
CW, Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I missed them. :( - Cliff On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, > what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? > > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock > solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of > a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. > > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni > was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. > > Thanks, > > cw > > TerraNovaNet > http://www.TerraNova.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 305-453-4011 > Think globally. Act locally. Conserve resources. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment
Title: Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment Mario, I too have a similar opportunity. Mine is for about 1,500 feet. However, the prices that I have received are considerably less than what you have below. - Cliff On 9/5/06 4:37 PM, "Mario Pommier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a new area of wireless deployment for me: I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles). I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered: -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006. I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave. Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these companies? Thanks a lot. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Asterisk Server - Digium 4Port FXO card - Cisco 7940G Phones
Title: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk Server - Digium 4Port FXO card - Cisco 7940G Phones I’m sure John would appreciate his ‘wispaBay’ listing fee and 25% of your sale amount. :) On 9/5/06 9:49 PM, "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have the following for sale - Qty (1) Dell Service Tag # 828DM11 Xeon Server - Not sure of specs - you can grab them from the Dell Site *Paid $800.00* Qty (1) Digium 4 Port FXO Card - DGM-TDM04B w / 1yr extended warranty and 1 Basic Support Package - None of which have been used *Paid almost $500ish Qty (7) Cisco 7940G Phones w/PSUs (3 are still in the box) *paid 175ish for each* We set these up for a customer in which we were having problems with their link. Due to lack of time to upgrade their link, I ordered in a traditional PBX type system for them to work off of for now. I want $1600.00 total which will include shipping. Not sure if the lists is a proper place to list this - but - I figured since a lot of you are starting into VoIP now - this would be a good setup. JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Maybe someone has suggestions... - Tower work
Mark, I have used a local communications company that has been in business about 25 years. They do tower work, including the erection and maintenance and they just increased their price to $45 per man our. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I suggest if you can find an small older paging, trunking system or two-way radio provider, the rates may be better. But, I also think it depends on your area. - Cliff On 9/7/06 10:34 PM, "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FM radio station I'm working out a deal with... Is a non-profit, a > religious station that runs on donations. > > So far, we have 2 prices for doing a standard tower inspection of about a > 200 foot tower, and I don't know if this includes tensioning guys, etc. > But the price is about $3500. > > I don't believe they can actually pay that out. Can someone point me to a > list or some resource that can point me to tower teams in eastern WA or OR, > that might not be quite this much?If they can't do that, it really puts > a wrinkle in my plans to put stuff on their tower, as I won't put anything > on it, nor can I get a climber to put stuff on it, unless the work is done > in the first place. > > Any references would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > > +++ > neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington > email me at mark at neofast dot net > 541-969-8200 > Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: BellSouth to offer 50Mbps next year
Investor's Business Daily BellSouth To Give A Boost To Its Broadband Services Tuesday September 12, 7:00 pm ET Reinhardt Krause BellSouth plans to upgrade about 10% of the households it serves to 50 megabits per second Internet access starting in the second half of 2007 -- a service nearly 10 times faster than it now provides. The upgrade targets 1.35 million homes in subdivisions or housing complexes where BellSouth (NYSE:BLS - News) has already brought fiber-optic wiring to within 250 feet of homes. Most of the upgrade, mainly in suburban areas of the Southeast, will take place in 2008, BellSouth says. BellSouth plans to use a technology known as VDSL2. This is a faster version of digital subscriber line technology that phone companies use to deliver broadband Internet access. The VDSL2 upgrade will give BellSouth a major weapon as phone and cable TV companies battle for broadband customers, especially high-end subscribers willing to pay higher fees for the fastest speeds. The BellSouth upgrade will put its broadband speeds in the ballpark of where Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - News) is now in a few markets, and where some cable firms expect to be within 18 months. For now, BellSouth's top DSL speed is just 6 mbps, and most of its customers order 1.5 mbps or slower service. Aside from the 1.35 million homes that will get VDSL2, the rest of BellSouth's region has been earmarked for another DSL variant that will boost speeds to 20 mbps to 25 mbps. "BellSouth and other telcos largely lost the high end of the consumer broadband market," Bruce Leichman, principal of LRG Research, said. "That's a difficult segment to win back. But VDSL2 will position them well to compete going forward." BellSouth has yet to reveal specific plans for VDSL2, but company executives have informed state regulators of plans to provide VDSL2- based services. BellSouth executives confirmed the plans in an interview. "We're looking at the third quarter of '07 before we do our first field upgrades," said Bill Smith, BellSouth's chief technology officer. "We expect to be able to do 50 mbps easy -- and maybe as much as 80 mbps."BellSouth hasn't disclosed what the VDSL2 upgrade will cost. Cable TV firms, meanwhile, aim to deliver Internet speeds from 25 mbps to 50 mbps. Their fastest offerings now generally range from 8 mbps to 15 or 16 mbps. VDSL2 network gear is designed to work in areas where fiber-optic connections are relatively close to homes. In the 1.35 million homes that will be upgraded to 50 mbps service, BellSouth uses a network setup known as "fiber to the curb," or FTTC. Verizon, which doesn't use VDSL2, now offers the fastest Internet access among phone companies. Verizon has deployed fiber directly to homes using a network setup called fiber-to-the-premise, or FTTP. It's faster in part because its fiber wiring goes right to the home. Where its FTTP network is available, Verizon sells Internet access at 5 mbps, 15 mbps and 30 mbps speeds. In a few areas, such as parts of New York, Verizon has boosted Internet access to 50 mbps. Verizon says its FTTP network will be available to 6 million homes by year's end. The BellSouth DSL variant it will use for non-VDSL2 households is called ADSL2+. With ADSL2 and VDSL2, BellSouth plans to offer video-on-demand and TV services via the Internet. BellSouth hasn't started to use ADSL2+ gear in its residential network. Smith says that in the labs BellSouth has ADSL2+ gear that delivers Internet access at 12 mbps. "We think there'll be a place in our network for multiple flavors of DSL," Smith said. For the VDSL2 upgrade, BellSouth has been working with equipment maker Tellabs (NASDAQ:TLAB - News). Aside from the 1.35 million homes, VDSL2 may be used in some apartment complexes where it makes economic sense. "The math has to work out," Smith said. AT&T (NYSE:T - News) agreed to purchase BellSouth in late February. Regulators are expected to approve the deal by year's end. BellSouth's broadband plans are subject to change once AT&T takes over. But Smith says BellSouth has spent years putting its DSL upgrade strategy in place. AT&T has used a lower-cost approach than Verizon to upgrade its residential network. AT&T's Project Lightspeed uses a fiber-to-the-node setup, in which fiber lines are within 3,000 feet of homes. AT&T plans to offer cablelike TV and video-on-demand services to homes via the Lightspeed network. Some analysts believe AT&T will change its plans to boost Internet speeds. Cowen & Co. analyst Tom Watts expects AT&T to move to either an FTTP setup like Verizon or an FTTC approach like BellSouth. "We have no plans to do that," said AT&T spokesman Michael Coe. Consumer demand for Internet speeds above 6 mbps isn't clear, AT&T says. But analysts and other communication firms say consumers want fast Internet speeds for Internet video, music downloading and other high-end applications. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscrib
Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
Title: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) “Association of Closet and Storage Professionals” http://www.closets.org/ Humm... Is Charles trying to tell us something :) On 9/29/06 4:22 PM, "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/29/06, Ron Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles, I know this is a duh question, but what is an ACSP?? DUH. Google is your friend. It's *obviously* the Australasian College of Sports Physicians. ;) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
We will only do a site survey after we have a signed contract. I learned after my second one over five years ago... Husband call to see if we could provide them wireless service. Sent team out to verify. Once we verified that we could provide them service, husband responded 'well, I'll check with the wife and get back with you...' Since then, we require our contract to be signed before we attempt a site survey. If our survey is successful, we continue with the install as we have a signed contract. If our survey fails, there is no charge to the customer. We thank them for the opportunity and keep their information available in case we add a POP that may allow them to get service. - Cliff On 10/8/06 11:06 PM, "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would not even consider charging for a site survey. > > Way too many possibilitys for bad press. I simply consider it a cost of > doing business. Rarely do we have someone decline service if it can be > done at our $199/$299 install rate. I have declines on the $799+ > installs, but I expect those. > > Blair Davis > West Michigan Wireless ISP > > Justin Wilson wrote: > >> I would not be happy about the $29.95 fee. If you can get away >> with it go right ahead. I look at it the customer is betting $29.95 >> that they can get service. I would rather have it here if they can >> get service, and they don't then they are charged $29.95. If they >> can't get service why should they have to pay $29.95? That would be >> like going to buy a new car. You want a Blue one with a stick shift. >> The dealer can't get you one, but they charge you $29.95 for looking. >> I think the word will spread pretty quickly. Customers are a weird >> beast. I can see the coffee shop conversations now: >> >> Joe:"Yeah that company came out and did a site survey to see if >> they could get me wireless" >> Bob " How did that go?" >> Joe "The installer guy waived an antenna around and said he could >> not get me a signal" >> Bob "Too bad, so what now?" >> Joe "I don't know, but I got charged $29.95 for him coming out" >> Bob "What? They are supposed to come out next week. I don't want >> them charging me $29.95 if they can't hook me up." >> >> Just my .02 >> Justin >> >> -- >> Justin S. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing >> Web: http://www.mtin.net >> Web: http://www.jwilson.ws >> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?
You hoo ... You hoo hoo! On 10/12/06 5:43 PM, "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My vonage just works day after day. > > grin > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? > > >> This is why we have redundant AND diverse upstream connections for voice. >> We had call quality issues with Level3 and just rerouted around them. >> >> -Matt >> >> Peter R. wrote: >>> It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP >>> tables twice a day. >>> Or it could be they are experiencing outages. >>> TW Cable had a statewide DNS failure on Friday (all day). >>> XO had a bad outage this week. >>> Could be a billing issue. >>> Could be lots of things >>> >>> - Peter >>> >>> C. Moses wrote: >>> AGAIN !!! Chuck Moses HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 16922 Airport Blvd # 17 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:41 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Nuvio Down? Anyone able to get to the Nuvio website? Phones are down too... Thanks, Brad >>> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
Butch, I think you missed the most important point of the 'subject line..." Rick was asking for 'GOOD' tower climbers... Hehe I too believe that he has mastered 'Johnny - rigging' :-) - Cliff On 10/17/06 10:56 PM, "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Rick Smith wrote: > >> As for manufacturing mounts on-site, I don't think there's any >> other way with Johnny. I'd hire him in a second to raise a tower of >> any height. > > JohnnyO is likely to be good at creating "custom solutions". :-) I > heard he's doing a LOT of tower work lately. He called me (from New > Mexico) a couple weeks ago to look in on his network. My > understanding is that he is dropping AND raising towers. Likely > that he has a good bit of tower on the ground, too. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ingram Micro Partner Summit - Las Vagas November 2006
Title: Ingram Micro Partner Summit - Las Vagas November 2006 I plan to attend Ingram Micro’s Partner Summit in Las Vegas next month. Does anyone else plan to go and want to meet up? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.
1. I don't agree that 'vehicle' insurance covers ANYTHING that arises due to the vehicle or its use. 'Vehicle' insurance covers things when used as a 'vehicle'... Driving accidents. Even if you have 'vehicle' insurance on a bucket truck, you would need 'liability AND worker's compensation' insurances to cover any personal and property from the use of the 'bucket.' I believe that you could use a bucket truck without 'vehicle' insurance if you had 'liability' insurance on PRIVATE property and be covered adequately. But, you would NOT be covered driving the truck from place to place. Similarly, if you only had 'vehicle' insurance, you may be covered (if you do omit the fact that you are driving a bucket truck) for accidents while driving as a vehicle, but not covered for the use of the bucket. 2. If you have employees use their personal vehicle for business use, THEIR protection comes from THEIR policy coverage and is meant for their protection. If YOU, as their employer, want to be covered, you need to add 'non-owned vehicle' coverage to your liability insurance. That is what covers YOU in the event the employee causes a loss while using their personal vehicle for your business. Just my 2 cents...from a non-insurance agent. :) On 11/17/06 5:31 PM, "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> states, the insurance covers ANYTHING that arises due to the vehicle or >> its use > > Insightful, I did not know that. And under that situation, Its logical that > business liability coverage would cover anything above what the > auto-insurance did not. > > But the real question here is not whether the Auto-Insurance will cover the > bucket. > Its wether the Primary Business Liabilty insurance will cover the insodent > as primary coverage, IF there is no auto-coverage for the Bucket, for > example if it was not disclosed and made invalid. Meaning, why buy > duplicate coverage, if Business Liability Coverage would cover it, and it > would be unwise to not have business liabilty, as every property owner > requires it to be there before doing work. > >> as most personal lines policies do not cover any type of business use, > > Please clarify. There are a lot of employees that are required to use their > own vehichles for work and employer does not provide one. For example, Pizza > delivery. Are you saying they are not covered? I find that hard to believe. > I'd understand that if a business used a personal policy for its vehicles > and then let employees drive it, that it likely may not be covered. But I > thought for sure that if I had my own vehichle at work, I could drive it > myself for work. There are many people who share their vehicle for part work > and part personel. ITs not viable to have two policies on the same vehichle, > and not always viable to have two vehichles. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs. > > >> Tom DeReggi wrote: >>> Excellent point Travis. It would be covered under business liabilty >>> insurance and/or workman's comp. >>> Auto insurance is meant to cover the driver or other guy that got hurt in >>> a driving accident. >>> Never once heard of a bucket contributing to a driving accident with >>> another vehichle. >>> >>> Unless of course you were driving down the road and forgot to lower the >>> boom before driving away :-) >>> >>> Your business liabilty insurance is also more appropriate for this, as >>> you classify what type of business you are in. Using it as a "lineman", >>> "home construction", or "Computer Networking" can be considered and has >>> required provisions for defining that in the agreement. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for >>> installs. >>> >> Tom, Wrong answer about the business liability insurance :-) . In most >> states, the insurance covers ANYTHING that arises due to the vehicle or >> its use. For instance, in PA, if You close the van door on Your hand(even >> if the vehicle is parked and not moving) and break it, Your auto insurance >> has to pay the medical bills. If the operator of the bucket truck sends it >> through the roof of the house they are working on, then the property >> damage coverage of Your auto policy(primary) kicks in and pays for the >> roof. There is a chance that Your business insurance(GL or general >> liability) policy would cover You on a secondary basis if the coverage on >> the auto policy was not enough and You were sued for the >> difference?(Varies by state). The legal term f
Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
Children... Children... :) On 11/29/06 12:48 PM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like a WISP War building in the deserts of Washington State ;) > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 > Founding Member of WISPA > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet > > Marlon, > > HA! NorthEAST 509 may be yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509. I feel we > are about to throw down some rap song, WORD! > > Forbes > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet > > > > 509 is my turf. I'll touch base with him. > > Thanks much! > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet > > >> team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he > wants >> to know if anybody can set up a wisp service for the locality. >> >> contact >> shane c >> 509 364 3438 x203 >> >> zip 98619 >> >> bob kim >> http://evdo-coverage.com >> http://iptv-coverage.com >> http://wimax-coverage.com >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: Don't be a "Virtual Shredder"
Subject: Don't be a "Virtual Shredder" Under the new rules, an information technology employee who routinely copies over a backup computer tape could be committing "virtual shredding" once a lawsuit has been filed, said Alvin F. Lindsay, a partner at Hogan & Hartson LLP and expert on technology and litigation. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061201/ap_on_hi_te/storing_emails_2 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I missed billing a customer for 15 months !
I think you gave too much! From the looks of your email, he would have been thrilled with 15-25%. However, I don't fault you for erring on the customer's side. :) On 12/11/06 7:59 PM, "Jenco Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone. The customer e-mailed back and said he had not noticed > that he was not getting billed. He offered to pay the full amount. In the > spirit of good relations (and not getting bad PR) - I told him I would take > half of the bill. > > Thanks, > > Brad H > > > On 12/11/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Sign em to a 2 yr contract, up his fee by x$ (with some discount tossed >> in), >> and be done with it. >> >> As a cancellation fee, charge him that year's service you missed. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:07 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I missed billing a customer for 15 months ! >> >> I agree. >> >> I'd say, I forgot to bill you yada yada, but since I'm such a nice guy I >> will not charge you the late fees, not disconnect you, and give you 6 >> months >> to catch up. >> >> Brian >> >> George Rogato wrote: >> >>> Agreed, and I would not have mentioned any issues with my system either. >>> What I would do though is offer not to charge him the late fees. You >>> do charge late fees, right? >>> >>> George >>> >>> Peter R. wrote: >>> This wasn't an email kind of thing. This was a phone call or visit kind of event. - Peter Jenco Wireless wrote: > I just sent him an e-mail: > > > > Hello Mr. XXX . We just did a review of our credit card billing and > realized that we have not successfully billed your account since > 7/26/05. > Our credit card service tried to bill you a few times (6), but for > some reason was declined payment. Due to the timing of the > catastrophic lightning strike we had in August '05, we did not catch > this situation. We realize that some of this is our issue, since we > did not catch it, but some may be on your end as well for the same > reason (not noticing the fact that a charge for our service has not > been incurred for the last 15 months). We would like to know your > thoughts on how you think we should proceed with this? > > > Thank you, > > Me > > > ** Note - Why do the people who seem to be the nicest you have ever > met seem to turn in to the biggest "a-holes" as soon as there is a 1 > second "glitch" > in their otherwise perfect Internet service :-) :-) ** > > >>> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] training
Marlon, I'd too be interested in seeing what you have. How about posting to the 'paid members' list? Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:37 AM To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] training I have a ppt that I wrote for Matt, Jaime and I to present. We did it at one of the EC expos. Folks seemed to like it. It's a couple of years out of date but wouldn't take much to update. I think having three people that didn't always see eye to eye made this a great course to take. marlon - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] training > Hi, > > Does anyone have a simple "wireless installation" training manual already > put together? We are finally to the point we need to have something for > the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something they want to > share? > > Travis > Microserv > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for Cisco Pix
I am looking for a few Cisco products. I will need one of each... - pix-515e-ur-bun - pix-506e-bun-k9 - pix-501-bun-k9 - probably smartnet on each Before I order, I wanted to see if anyone may have one available, new or used. If so, please contact me off-list with the details. Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] New WISPA Principle Member
Congrats! Keep um' coming... Let the flow of lurkers and leaches see the light and help fund this wonderful organization and assist in our causes. - Cliff LeBoeuf - 985-879-3219 - www.cssla.com - www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Scrivner Sent: Thu 1/11/2007 10:12 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Principle Member We are seeing more momentum toward new paid membership in WISPA and I really appreciate that. The latest WISP operator to join is Greg Coffey of Alluretech / Coffeynet. I am sure I speak for all of us in saying welcome to Greg and thank you for your support to our industry. Here are a few words from Greg about himself and Coffeynet: I'm Greg Coffey, owner of Alluretech/Coffeynet based out of Casper, WY. I got into the wireless back in the 90's deploying Breezecom frequency hopping radios. I sold the business and later bought out another local WISP almost three years ago. We cover most of Natrona County at this point and deploy 2.4 and 5.x equipment using mostly Star-OS AP's and Tranzeo CPE. I'm really impressed with their slim line series, both 2.4 and 5.8. We're in the middle of the worst blizzard we've had in years and nothing has gone down yet, knock on wood! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ <>-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The WISP that walked away
If you can find out what is needed to allow access from the existing CPE's, I believe that you can allow access to YOUR bandwidth, and charges those who want to use your service, regardless of who may own the CPE. Now, if you want to own the CPE, you need to find out who owns the CPE. If there are leased -- are they leased buy the ISP that 'walked' away, or the individual customer. If by the customer, they just continue to make their lease payments to the leasing company, and you for allowing their CPE access to your service. If the previous ISP, perhaps the leasing company will work a sweet deal with you as it is NOT in their interest to retrieve the CPEs... Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:58 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] The WISP that walked away An operator in my local area, covering a small area I would nevertheless like to have, recently just upped and walked away from his operation, leaving all cpe in place and some very confused customers who were told to go get cable or dsl. He was very short with me in email and indicated that the equipment was leased and that he had had enough with trying to scratch out something more than an avarage living and is glad to be rid of it and out of the business, and no further communication will be possible, end of story. Ethics question: Do I swoop in with my own backhaul and reactivate the system using the existing cpe units (mostly motorola, right up our alley), or do we build a new system from scratch and avoid these now defunct cpe's like the plauge? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Form FCC477
Hehe!!! I just received my reminder that my new 'confidential' FCC 477 form will be due shortly. Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Form FCC477
I have filled all previous requests, and plan on filing this one too. I was just 'poking fun' at the CONFIDENTIAL issue at hand... Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form FCC477 Actually, once they post on this public, archived listserv that they will not file, it becomes a permanent record and their business becomes everyone's business. You want WISPA to be taken seriously? You don't post on the list and say I ain't filing. It reflects poorly. You don't want to file - don't file, but shut up about it. - Peter George Rogato wrote: > > I am not saying to anyone else tyhat they should or shouldn't, thats > your business not mine. > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have voice plans. However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be able to use email. I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why. Thanks, Cliff LeBoeuf www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards.
Marty, What you have experienced is not the norm on the WISPA list IMO. 'Scuffles' occasionally do take place, but this list is well run and moderated. You will find a wealth of information sharing and support on this list. This my change for you 2 cents... :) - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:34 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. Give me a break. I just joined WISPA in the past 60 days with intentions of HELPING THE INDUSTRY. In the 60 days I have been on this list I have seen all kinds of BS- Political grandstanding, rudeness and generally unprofessional behavior. The most recent discussions about operating illegally have been just as disturbing. I want to know if WISPA intends to "step up" to the plate and take a position against all of this INCLUDING the open and seemingly arrogant flaunting of the rules that have been put in place by the FCC. If you had the authority to grant new unlicensed spectrum to the WISP represented on this list would you feel confident they will follow the rules? Don't you think the licensed camps are going to eat this up? MY 2 cents- we are in for the battle of our lives with regards to spectrum and we are LOOSING. In fact, if not for the muni crowd, we would have little hope of getting any of the TV/whitespace. Someone else mentioned this was similar to the CB radio story... Marty __ Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-623-4542 (Cell) 703-554-6620 (office) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. Oh my lord Marty! I think you are trying to get Patrick back in high gear on his soap box!! :-) SHAME SHAME!! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. Since we have been on the subject- do these all qualify as 'certified" FCC systems? I have often wondered how it's possible to build this all yourself and stay legal... Marty __ Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-623-4542 (Cell) 703-554-6620 (office) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. Our driver sets the output power using an electronics "volume control" that is in the Atheros power out section. All drivers set the power using that control. The precise setting is in tables provided by Atheros for the various air rates and as you note it goes down as the rate goes up. This is to keep the amplifier from being over driven by the extra carriers that happen as a result of higher rates. The high power cards that we have tested all have a power amplifier after the Atheros power measurement sections, so the power setting that the driver applies is further added to by the extra amplifier. We have no knowledge about the specs of that extra amplifer except that it supplies from 6 to 8 dB more power. Lonnie On 2/7/07, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone tell me how STAROS works in regards to setting power levels to > cards that adapative modulate. > Specifically related to Cards with on board AMPs. To be more clear > > A SR2 may be speced at 26db at 1-24 mbps, but 24db at 36mbps, and 22db at > 48-56mb. > My unconfirmed understanding is, that the SR2 adds about 8db via an onboard > external amp beyond what the card is actually set to. > So if the card is set to 16db, it will have an output power of 24db in > theory. However, its not that simple because the output power will change > based on modulation. > Does STAROS drivers set the power as the constant power regardless of what > modulation? Or does it set the TOP power? Does the power on the card only > change if modulation drops and the power is set higher than power it suppoed > to drop to? The radio card has no knowledge of what DB antenna is connected > to it. And are the onboard AMPs a set output or variable output AMP? The > point that I'm making is, how can we set the card to near MAX levels, but > guarantee that they will never transmit above the allowed EIRP? If I have > the conclusive answer to that question, then I can reduce the power to the > lowest level needed for a good link, with headroom capabilty if emergencies > occur, but more importantly, I can document what the
RE: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards.
Marty, I believe that this list of 'open to the public,' and therefore users are not subject to the code of ethics that a member agrees to when they join. The paid members have access to a private discussion group with added benefits over and above the public list. The private list is also where the official WISPA positions are decided. I would also hope that any 'paid member' would hold themselves to a higher standard than perhaps the 'rouge' list user. I think that the official WISPA position has always promoted compliance with the law and regulations. However, I have also learned a lot from those that may 'bend or break' the rules too. Ultimately, it is up to me to weigh the risk/return proposition for my company. If you are a paid member; thanks and congratulations. If not, please consider joining and raise the bar for WISPA as a Professional organization. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. It's simple Marlon- WISPA can affect this crowd- If WISPA demands all members be 100% legal operators or NO MEMBERSHIP allowed that would send a powerful message to the FCC and the WISP community. >From the code of ethics- ARTICLE II We will conduct ourselves in such a manner as to bring credit to our industry and enhance its reputation. ARTICLE III We will publicize our services in a professional manner upholding the dignity of our profession. We will avoid all conduct, practices and promotion likely to discredit or do injury to our field of endeavor ARTICLE IV We will strive to broaden public understanding and enhance public regard and confidence in our Industry Marty ___ Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-554-6620 www.roadstarinternet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: SPAM ? RE: [WISPA] Understanding STAROS with High Power cards. I get a kick out of these discussions. First, if the people that think we're all illegal operators think that the 5 or 10 very vocal ones on a couple of emails lists represent they whole industry they are being less than honest with anyone. MOST operators are good and honest. Not all of them are anymore than all are in any industry. Personally, I wish that those that love to brag about flaunting the rules would be run up the official flag pole. Second, the talk about WISPA doing anything to those companies isn't helpful either. WISPA isn't nearly powerful enough yet. Hopefully some day it will be. But we're just not there yet. What WISPA can, should, and has done is to always take the side of the law. We have lawyers working on the CALEA issue. We have a team of WISPs going to DC NEXT week (not as WISPA representatives but as WISPA members) to talk to the FCC about their businesses, current market trends etc. If I were going I'd also talk about how damaging the almost total lack of enforcement is being to the industry and our customers. They'll be talking to the chief of the FBI's CALEA group. Hopefully something similar to the FCC's Form 477 FAQ #8 will come of it (for those that have never read the FAQ, #8 tells the WISP EXACTLY what he needs to fill out on the form, it makes this a brainless process). They are also going to meet with the Federal Trade Commission's broadband group. WISPA also has a code of ethics. For those that have never read it: http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3 As a trade org that represents the industry we have worked hard to make sure that people KNOW what the rules and laws are. If you have an issue you aren't sure of, ask, someone here will know the answer or where to get the answer. We have a couple of lawyers that hang around our industry and love to be helpful to the WISP community. We have technicians, engineers, marketing whizzes, management pros etc. here. To even think that the few that advocate flaunting the rules represent our industry is plain silly. To think that the licensed community, DSL companies, cable companies etc. etc. etc. want us to succeed is also silly. They will do and say anything to destroy our industry. We are THE ONE industry that can possibly compete with them over the next 10 or 20 or 50 years. And as the technology gets better, as spectrum becomes more available, as standards become more widely accepted, we're going to be ever more powerful. The big boys understand money and competition. Not customer service and reputation. We have a huge edge in the long term. I used to think that fiber was the next logical broadband evolution. That eventually all of the copper would be pulled out of service and fiber put
RE: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...)
Patrick, I agree and appreciate you frustration on this issue! I too remember when I had to compete in the computer business when we only offered FCC certified computer systems, but the 'shade-tree' computer builder was peddling his goods for less money. It wasn't fair to those following the rules. However, today we are still here and all of those 'shade-tree' resellers have long come and gone from my area. I also point out that the a major difference here is perspective...Most of those that are non-compliant are using the 'shade-tree' talents for their own 'internal' use and not reselling uncertified systems to my knowledge. The different perspectives...using one's own concoction vs. a vendor selling a non-certified system against a certified one, is a value proposition for the purchaser to consider. Are there any differences in law to using vs. selling non-certified equipment? I would hope the non-compliant user is aware of their potential liability and has factored that into their 'cost of business' if enforcement is applied on them. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...) How many of you operate in farm country? You got any problem with illegal produce flooding your market? I bet your community might have something to say about that. Are you asking if those of us who have the ethics to make the required investments to operate legally in this country (and in every country we operate in) want protection from those who are illegal? Why we have some gall, don't we? Listen, we sell into literally over 150 countries. We spend massive amounts each year to be compliant with the regulations of each country. Compliance often requires specific hardware or software changes, not merely certification. Do I want respect and protection from those who by intentionally ignore the rules are able to sell at lower prices? You darned sure bet I do and I have more than an expectation of such -- I have a right. In your world a competitive operator should be able to get space on your tower for free, or at least erect one without having to go through the local bureaucratic hurdles. In your world anyone should be able drive anything on the freeway, and if you get hurt, too damned bad. Forbes, what you are advocating is called relativism. Relativism is an insidious problem that grows roots and proliferates if not brought under control. Or maybe you only care about rules that when violated damage you? Such an attitude is dangerous and selfish. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...) Amen to that, it's called 'Vendor Protectionism'. I remember when the companies doing low voltage pre-wiring in buildings lobbied to make only certified contractors be able to do Cat5/6 work in housing and an Apprentice Program was required. They knew full well that if another company wanted to go into the wiring business, like a WISP who wants to wire the rest of their house, they would not be able to because no competitor would allow my employee to get Apprentice training from them to compete against them. It's using the law to protect your income and the most ridiculous use of the law. I agree that if there is good power usage and the same interference as caused by certified gear, leave them alone. WISPA is a lobbying group for a easier access to frequencies and a group that educates each other as to the best methods and equipment. As soon as we become an exclusive trade group that tries to force people who don't agree with us out we have lost our mission and become just another scared industry that tries to hide behind the law instead of helping people get Internet where they couldn't before. I battle competition by being better at marketing and service not by some law or exclusive club; it's called the free market place with minimum government interference. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Dealing with bad players (was SPAM ?...) I've been sitting back watching this debate/holy war for a day or so now and decided to throw my $.02 in I'd bet that the vast majority of 'bad operators' are only 'bad' due to lack of certification. Most do not run over power limits. Most do not operate outside the UL bands. If you want to help reduce over-powered or out of band operation, I'm w
[WISPA] Employment Opportunity
I have a desire to hire an experienced computer network technician in a leadership role. Minimum qualifications: A+ Certification MCP (MCSE preferred) Experience: Hardware repair Networking Router configuration and management Programming Wireless Internet Wireless LAN We are an Internet Service Provider (broadband, hosting, dialup, etc.), authorized HP agent, a COMPTIA member, a Microsoft Partner, a Cisco partner, a Xerox agent - in other words a full-service solutions provider. We are a company that offers complete business solutions. Familiarity with Trango, Alvarion, Mikrotik, Cisco, Linux, Platypus, and Hsphere would be an asset to a member joining our progressive team. Individuals expressing an interest in working outdoors managing wireless internet installations should also reply. If you know someone that may be interested in a full-time position in Southeast Louisiana, please contact me off-list. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtRazqB0GyWGwZPNmltYv3hbP3fU8d6g1+C4n+C En2ZXKJeyNMVPKx/OC34ZFcrr99o+peAtPh0O1SKOxZE1MRx7UyxBTPHKnYw9sj1qlTUtfMy li5UoqK6RT23/wCGO08K2Xwq8Si5Fl4f0+OSCMy7JbWIGRRnOzHXGOfqKi834Ypo17fjw7B5 dpP9nMQtotzHGQQPTgj8K5a5vNHvvHwvPCMGyxtbOQ3LbdiqWiKjI46nP5Vyv2Oe4idVmZYZ 4JL5kyMEK5QEj/PWqVKL3MKmOrxXu2e+vfsz1jWT8MNKsdLuZtBtn/tC3S5ijW2j3qjDI3Ds aheP4VNOyx+G7WYfZhd71s4iCp28f73zcjtg1xr2mparfaHZaDFaz3x0CBQtyflAAUE9D7VX 1azg8I6veadq
RE: [WISPA] Form 445
Boy...if that's not a valuable service justifying my dues. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Form 445 If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are allowing later filing now. Kris will be filing on behalf of all paid WISPA Principal Members. All you have to do is reply to the email and say, "Include me in WISPA 445 Filing" and include your official, legal company name. That's it. Your filing will be complete.This is being done as a benefit of WISPA membership at NO CHARGE TO YOU. To take advantage of this offer you MUST respond within 24 hours, by no later than 3 pm Central time on Tuesday, Feb 13th. If you are not already a paid WISPA member then this is not available to you unless you get us $250 before noon tomorrow Central time and fill out the form at http://signup.wispa.org. John Scrivner President WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtR
RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program
OK! Those of you that are not paid members, please delete Mac's email below (hehe) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program Forbes, I have one that was drawn up by my attorney. I'm like Scriv in that I will share with any WISPA member, but I ask that it remain exclusively for WSPA members. You will have to change it up to fit your needs J Later, Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Reseller Program Does anybody have a Reseller agreement that they use in computer stores to sign up Internet with commission? I'd sure like to look at a boiler plate I could use to modify for our usage. Thanks, Forbes <> BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtRazqB0GyWGwZPNmltYv3hbP3fU8d6g1+C4n+C En2ZXKJeyNMVPKx/OC34ZFcrr99o+peAtPh0O1SKOxZE1MRx7UyxBTPHKnYw9sj1qlTUtfMy li5UoqK6RT23/wCGO08K2Xwq8Si5Fl4f0+OSCMy7JbWIGRRnOzHXGOfqKi834Ypo17fjw7B5 dpP9nMQtotzHGQQPTgj8K5a5vNHvvHwvPCMGyxtbOQ3LbdiqWiKjI46nP5Vyv2Oe4idVmZYZ 4JL5kyMEK5QEj/PWqVKL3MKmOrxXu2e+vfsz1jWT8MNKsdLuZtBtn/tC3S5ijW2j3qjDI3Ds aheP4VNOyx+G7WYfZhd71s4iCp28f73zcjtg1xr2mparfaHZaDFaz3x
RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings
Done too! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings NetsurfUSA filled - 2007223533293 - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings I filed: **2007223902414** Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or > so!! > > Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our > industry if we can't be bothered to talk to them? > > Listen, the new rules get made according to the WRITTEN record! Our > trips to the FCC are great and we both learn a lot, but when it comes > time to make regulations they go to the paperwork that's been filed! > > EVERYONE here needs to file personally. Here's my confirmation > :'2007223682035 > > Just go to this link: > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi > > Put 04-186 in the top left box and follow the instructions to voice > your opinions on what the FCC should do with the soon to be opened up > tv bands! All you have to do is till them to make the bands > unlicensed, no auctions, no registration etc. Say more if you want, > but we really need to drive home the unlicensed idea. > > Get off your hind ends guys! > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtq
RE: [WISPA] AT&T Hotspots
And I'm sure all of these are CALEA compliant; and are reported on FCC477... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AT&T Hotspots An interesting stat: *The firm said its total hotspots now number 48,000 in 79 countries, including nearly 15,000 hot spots in the US.* AT&T reported Thursday that it has added 13,000 Wi-Fi hotspots, accessible by its AT&T Remote Access customers, at locations including airports, hotels, and restaurants around the world. Plus add all the muni wi-fi which is one big hotspot and the T-Mobile & Sprint hotspots, plus all the indie and WISP powered hotspots. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtRazqB0GyWGwZPNmltYv3hbP3fU8d6g1+C4n+C En2ZXKJeyNMVPKx/OC34ZFcrr99o+peAtPh0O1SKOxZE1MRx7UyxBTPHKnYw9sj1qlTUtfMy li5UoqK6RT23/wCGO08K2Xwq8Si5Fl4f0+OSCMy7JbWIGRRnOzHXGOfqKi834Ypo17fjw7B5 dpP9nMQtotzHGQQPTgj8K5a5vNHvvHwvPCMGyxtbOQ3LbdiqWiKjI46nP5Vyv2Oe4idVmZYZ 4JL5kyMEK5QEj/PWqVKL3MKmOrxXu2e+vfsz1jWT8MNKsdLuZtBtn/tC3S5ijW2j3qjDI3Ds aheP4VNOyx+G7WYfZhd71s4iCp28f73zcjtg1xr2mparfaHZaDFaz3x0CBQtyflAAUE9D7VX 1azg8I6veadqE5jeDTx
RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news
Well you can also visit any time here in South Louisiana where when visiting you can get eatin' up by mosquitoes whist sucking on crawfish heads, eatin' hog crackling and boudin dripping in sweat at 90 deg and 100% humidity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Nice try. The last thing I'd be called is naïve. :) Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Marlon, I hear the snipe get running about that same time. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: RE: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news How do ride a dirt bike with that sketchy back of yours? I think I'm more the speed of hangin' with a knockwurst, beer and a fishin' pole. When is the fest? I do remember that Steve came up for that. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: play time was..Re: [WISPA] news Dude! I'd LOVE that. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like dirtbikes we've got a weekend with about 2000 bikes in town. Sat. is a family off road poker run. Sunday is one of, if not the, hardest dirt bike races in the state. 100 miles. That's in April. If you want to to to the river and do some water skiing july through august are good. Our annual german fest brings around 10,000 people to town to drink bier and eat foods mostly made by the grandmas around town. I'm not available much though. My folks have a sausage business and I'll cook hundreds of lbs or sausage over the weekend. It's a great time though. Ask Steve S. about that one. If you'd rather go hunting, then late fall is good. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up there to escape and "cave it" with you for a weekend. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] news Point well taken. Marlon <--- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up to speed. (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] news Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if you careless with the facts. As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday brings new readers). And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always welcome factual corrections). Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM To: WISPA Gene
[WISPA] Friday Humor - A little early :)
TELEPHONE HISTORY After having dug to a depth of 10 meters last year, Scottish scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 100 years ago. Not to be outdone by the Scots, in the weeks that followed, British scientists dug to a depth of 20 meters, and shortly after headlines in the UK newspapers read: "British archaeologists have found traces of 200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the Scots." One week later, "The Advertiser", a Lafayette , Louisiana newspaper, reported the following: "After digging as deep as 30 meters in cane fields near New Iberia , Gaston Boudreaux, a self taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely nothing. Gaston has, therefore, concluded that 300 years ago Cajuns were already using wireless technology." -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Spring has sprung!
Caused by molecular excitement from all of the WISPs that didn't exist just a few years ago... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spring has sprung! Remember... There's no such thing as global warning... Travis Johnson wrote: > Wow... we are having record temps here in Idaho... hit 68F yesterday and > our "normal" temp for this time of year is in the mid 30's. Supposed to > be 65F again today. > > Travis > Microserv > > Blair Davis wrote: > >> No leaves here, yet >> >> BUT, >> >> Was warm last week, got cooler this weekend... >> >> And this AM, it was WHITE outside again $%#%^! >> >> Wish winter would get done... >> >> Jim Stout wrote: >> >>> ..and the leaves have started to absorb my 2.4 GHz signal! >>> >>> Good morning everyone! >>> >>> With the sap rising in the trees, I've started losing a lot of signal >>> with some of my customers on the "other side of the tree line." I >>> thought this might happen but was hopeful it wouldn't. Wi this said, >>> I am committed to adding 900 MHz gear to my portfolio,. but have some >>> questions for the group. >>> >>> I'll be using the same tower for both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz. I'm >>> assuming antennae separation is important but how much and should >>> they be spaced vertically or is horizontal spacing OK? >>> >>> I'm planning to use an RB112 with an SR9 for the NLOS clients and >>> adding a second RB112 with an Xtreme Range 2 for my 2.4 customers. I >>> would like to run these in bridge mode instead of having them do any >>> routing. Any thoughts or gotchas here? >>> >>> I'm assuming that my EIRP for both implementations is 36 dbw. Is >>> this the case? >>> >>> I'm running my 2.4 gear in HPOL but am considering running the 900 >>> gear in VPOL. Any thoughts here? >>> >>> And lastly, I have read that a cavity filter is strongly recommended >>> for the 900 MHz gear. Any thoughts and/or suggestions here. >>> >>> As always, thanks in advance for the help. >>> >>> Regards, Jim in Kansas City >>> >>> >>> Jim Stout >>> LTO Communications, LLC >>> 15701 Henry Andrews Dr >>> Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 >>> (816) 305-1076 - Mobile >>> (816) 497-0033 - Pager >>> >> >> -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wanted -- 900Mhz Trango or Alvarion Access Point
I am looking for either a Trango 900 AP or an Alvarion 900 AU (outdoor unit only or entire system). Used or new is fine. If you have either available, please send me what you have and your asking price off-list please. Thanks, Cliff WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Great Quotes from Great Leaders
I'm having a good morning and just thought I'd share this clip with the "group." http://www.greatquotesmovie.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service Needed in San Juan
Don't do it Gino :) On 1/13/08 8:54 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey johhny, I think we might be there is this in the Encantada > community? > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of JohnnyO > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:03 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Needed in San Juan > > Gr - Why didn't I think of Mr. Puerto Rico Wi-Fi himself. > > JohnnyO > > - Original Message - > From: "Forrest W. Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Needed in San Juan > > >> That would be most likely [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or he could point you in >> the right direction. >> >> -forrest >> >> JohnnyO wrote: >>> Will need service at this location. Please respond offline with > quotes. >>> This is for me personally. I will be renting this home for 180days. I > can >>> do my own install ! ! ! ! and prob have the equipment for it also > >>> quote accordingly :) >>> >>> >>> Parque Montebello >>> street 1 A-19 >>> Trujillo Alto Puerto Rico 00976 >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> JohnnyO >>> 337.368.7188 >>> >>> >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > > >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GPS
Also, get one with an electronic compass... Be careful that you make sure that the compass feature works when stationary. Many have the compass feature, but you must be moving for it to work. On 1/29/08 12:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get a WAAS enabled machine. Then you can get accurate elevation > measurements. Without elevation figures are pretty bad on a hand held > device. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA List" > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:11 AM > Subject: [WISPA] GPS > > >> I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many >> different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. >> >> What sort of features do I need it to have to work with these programs? >> >> I'd also like to have it be an independent unit with elevation so I can >> climb a tower and see exactly how tall it is instead of pulling a number >> out of you know where. >> >> Recommendations? >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software
Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :) On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor. > - Original Message - > From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:43 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software > > >> Alex wrote: >>> Go hire a gumshoe. >> >> Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new >> ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the home >> network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office. >> >> Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their >> CALEA support for something. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ------ > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
JO, you're now a vendor member? :) On 3/13/08 9:33 PM, "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike - what city are you installing this in ? Let me know - we're in the > area, I'll check on crane pricing and see what we could do for you. > > As Bob stated, make sure whoever it is has the proper insurance. Any > mistakes or carelessness could cost you bigtime. > > We're fully equipped. > > Regards, > > JohnnyO > 337.368.7188 > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Goicoechea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install > > >> We already purchased the tower. >> >> Mike Goicoechea >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install >> >> sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are >> they providing everything? >> >> -Cameron >> >>> We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. >>> We >>> have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received >>> between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal >>> amount? >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Goicoechea >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: >>> 3/12/2008 >>> 1:27 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 >> 1:27 PM >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 >> 1:27 PM >> >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - >> --- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Motivational
I thought that some of you may enjoy watching these inspirational videos. I did! http://www.simpletruths.com/movies/index.asp Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: AT&T: Internet to hit full capacity by 2010 | Tech News on ZDNet
Subject: AT&T: Internet to hit full capacity by 2010 | Tech News on ZDNet http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6237715.html?tag=nl.e550 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Interesting information about Gmail
This is an interesting article if you have a gmail account... http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.ht ml Of course you all probably already knew about this trick as I am always the last to know... :) Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Wrap your equipment in a burlap sack! Recently went through such a situation, but NOT the 3-day notice part. What does your contract state for such work? On 5/21/08 2:36 PM, "Patrick Nix Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't > administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to > maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a > contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the > tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this > is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, > and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been > working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar > situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they > tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one > left that will want service. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > __ > > > > Patrick Nix, Jr., > > csweb.net > > (800) 638-2614 > > http://www.csweb.net <http://www.csweb.net/> > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in > nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail > and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. > > > > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director
Randy, your membership should carry the vote. Just like some of us pay more taxes than others, we still only get one vote. (except in LA and FL) ;D On 5/21/08 12:50 PM, "Randy Cosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Davis, >> >> >>>> you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400. >>>> > Let me throw in a "devils advocate" question here. If I have 400 > customers and pay $400, do I get as many "votes" as an ISP with 10,000 > customers who pays $10,000? If you look at this in the purely corporate > sense, WISPA would be selling "shares" and each share gets a vote. > > > Randy > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Time to revisit your contract IMO... On 5/21/08 3:09 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our contract states the city only has to give us 48 hours notice to be off > for water tower maintenance. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Nix Jr. > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble > > Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't > administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to > maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a > contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the > tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this > is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, > and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been > working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar > situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they > tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one > left that will want service. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > __ > > > > Patrick Nix, Jr., > > csweb.net > > (800) 638-2614 > > http://www.csweb.net <http://www.csweb.net/> > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in > nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail > and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
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[WISPA] Calling JohnnyO...
Oh where... Oh where... Has my Little JohnnyO gone Oh where... Oh where... Can he be WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wanted -- SU-NI-1D-HP-2.4
I am looking for a couple of Alvarion Subscriber Indoor units P/N SU-NI-1D-HP-2.4. If you have any, new or used, please send asking price and qty off-line. Thanks, Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking to buy - SU-A-5.3-xx-VL's
I am looking for a couple of Alvarion Subscriber units P/N SU-A-5.3-6-BD-VL or SU-A-5.3-54-BD-VL. If you have any, new or USED, please send asking price and qty off-line. Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Opinion - Licensed P2P Link
I am considering upgrading a P2P link that is 18 miles to a licensed link. It appears that Trango has attractive pricing on their Gigalink solution. We have used Trango equipment and have experienced the good and bad. However, I am overall pleased with the company and their products. I would like to know the good and bad of their Gigalink products from those that have implemented their solution, as-well-as any comparable/competitive solutions. Also, it appears that I can get 99.997 reliability out of an 11Ghz solution with 4ft dishes, and 99.8 from 6Ghz with the 6ft dishes. Do both of these numbers seem correct in my area of Louisiana? I do plan on keepong my current Orthogon 5.8Ghz link as a fail-over. Reply on or off-list. Thanks, Cliff LeBoeuf 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 900AP
Before ordering direct, does anyone have a Trango 900 AP, new or used, that they are interested in selling? Contact me off-list with details of so. Thanks, Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: [Wisp] New Associate Member of WISPA
"I like to write. I'm kind of opinionated. Posts on all manner of ISP lists can prove that." -- Peter I would never have known that if you had not mentioned it! Haha! Next you'll want credibility!!! :) Welcome aboard mate! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:15 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Wisp] New Associate Member of WISPA Please welcome Peter Radizeski of RAD-INFO as WISPA's newest Associate Member. I know many of you already know Peter as someone who has a wealth of knowledge to bring to our efforts. I am sure I speak for us all in saying thanks to Peter for making his relationship with WISPA formal. Here is a little more information about Peter and RAD-INFO: In 2000, Peter started in Telecom as a BellSouth Agent. His niche then as now is the Internet Solution Provider. Today, RAD-INFO, Inc. represents about 20 carriers selling Internet Bandwidth, private lines, SIP termination, collocation and varied other services from the likes of AT&T, Savvis, Global Crossing, Level(3), etc. RAD-INFO, Inc. was a vendor member of FISPA. During my 5 years there, I served many roles starting with a position on the Membership Committee, followed up by being Legislative Chair, and eventually a Board member. Later, I was a founder and Executive Director of another ISP association created for the sole purpose of fighting forbearance and mega-mergers. This led to our involvement with an Ad Hoc committee of interested parties, loosely tied with the WBIA. I like to write. I'm kind of opinionated. Posts on all manner of ISP lists can prove that. At RAD-INFO, we used to publish a newsletter, which has been replaced by 2 blogs. It was kind of surprise that Phone Plus magazine asked me to blog for them as well (blog # 3). And comments I receive have been for the most part positive. (I'm still amazed that people actually read what I write). Today, my focus is on consulting. The days of it being about the technology are over. RAD-INFO believes that the next phase for ISPs is to Guerrilla Market their service offerings to their target audience. "Re-Imagine" and "Differentiate or Die" are not just book titles but business lessons. Here's hoping I can help a few WISP's and maybe help the Industry. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com ___ WISP mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wisp -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] How many of you actually use your own service -- Part 2!
Of you that have employees... 1. Do you 'require' that the use your service if available? 2. If so, how do you charge them for using your services? a. Those that are actively involved in maintaining your network... b. Those that are employees, but have no direct responsibility for the networks maintenance (clerical, sales, etc.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many of you actually use your own service? Most (if not all) of your employees should use your service as well. It's called drinking the kool-aid. FYI... Coke, Pepsi, Miller and Bud require that each employees' household only drink their kool-aid. In NC, a Coke driver was fired for having lunch at a restaurant that only sold Pepsi. In Tampa, a buddy used to work for the Miller distributor and his daughter left a 6 pack of Bud in the fridge - almost got him fired when some of the employees were over for a BBQ. You have to drink the punch in order to sell it effectively. Sales is about taking your enthusiasm or passion for the service and transferring it to th eprospect. Also, how can a skeptical prospect take your word for it when you don't drink from the punch bowl??? Regards, Peter Radizeski @ RAD-INFO, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Alvarion VL 5.3Ghz
Has anyone used the Alvarion VL 5.3? I am looking at it for one of my towers. However, this equipment is not part of the Comnet program, nor is a 'limited' version of the AU available like offered in the 5.8 spectrum. I am interested in hearing about your experiences with this equipment as this seems to be an expensive solution to a problem I need to solve and Alvarion has not been very forthcoming information on less expensive options for me so I want to 'justify' the added expense of the existing equipment. Thanks, Cliff BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtRazqB0GyWGwZPNmltYv3hbP3fU8d6g1+C4n+C En2ZXKJeyNMVPKx/OC34ZFcrr99o+peAtPh0O1SKOxZE1MRx7UyxBTPHKnYw9sj1qlTUtfMy li5UoqK6RT23/wCGO08K2Xwq8Si5Fl4f0+OSCMy7JbWIGRRnOzHXGOfqKi834Ypo17fjw7B5 dpP9nMQtotzHGQQPTgj8K5a5vNHvvHwvPCMGyxtbOQ3LbdiqWiKjI46nP5Vyv2Oe4idVmZYZ 4JL5kyMEK5QEj/PWqVKL3MKmOrxXu2e+vfsz1jWT8MNKsdLuZtBtn/tC3S5ijW2j3qjDI3Ds aheP4VNOyx+G7WYfZhd71s4iCp28f73zcjtg1xr2mparfaHZaDFaz3x0CBQtyflAAUE9D7VX 1azg8I6veadqE5jeDTxHlhkszbH7fjSVOL06lzxteN57R2+dmdbdav8ACq0jg3eG1zLBHKqL aRcb1DKv15ArU1C3+FcPiG00ltCsri6nIDMlrEywg55c44HH61x8+nxxah8LYbi3RZZEgSdW UZYhsYb1x0rOjZrPxnqtrcagttJHczI0DRk+dtVxjdngY5GeOBSVOLRUsXVhKz72/C57D4Q8 beEI9di8P6HaPA5kaFJFjRYwVUnGQeny4GB3FeP/ABN/5H7W/wDr4P8AIVD4JnI8WaBJIIzb i9kCBSASSWBJ9fWpvib/AMj9rf8A18H+Qq+VRlZGDxE69Hmnvf8ARHp3hzxXbeH/AArp1ncW b3X224uAyhgoWNSSx/2sDsOeadpHirwlDF
RE: [WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors
Spray paint orange. Hide the box and packaging and charge $230! Don't give away trade secrets. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Niemantsverdriet Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors Thanks Travis and David, Those look like they will do the trick and at $13 +shipping can't beat the price! On 4/23/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FS105 > > Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > > Model Number?? > > > > On 4/23/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Netgear 5 port. I've had several in boxes for 2-3 years with temps from > >> -30F to 100F. > >> > >> Travis > >> Microserv > >> > >> Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > >> > I am in need of a switch that can live outdoors in an enclosure. It > >> > needs to be small (5 ports) and cheap as the customer dose not want to > >> > any more that he has to. It also needs to surrive the hot and cold > >> > temps that it will experiance. Any reccomendations? > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt48
RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition
Mark, Do you pay ANY taxes??? If so, continue to the next questions. Otherwise, you have no reason to voice your opinion. Do you support the wars we are involved in currently? All of them, or just one or two of them? Do you support your lawmakers making more money than most of the country? Do you support the fact that your lawmakers should be able to decide their own pay raise every year? Do you support your lawmakers running this country into debt the way it has? If you answered 'NO' to any of the above, do you continue to pay your taxes as I asked with the first question? If you do continue to pay your taxes, even though you do not support what your government is doing with your money, why do you continue to pay them? I believe the same thought process applies to the FCC and what they are currently doing. If you 'support' your government by paying your taxes, why don't you support the FCC's efforts even thought you don't agree with them? Many times it isn't 'what you say', rather 'how you say it.' Keep shouting from the mountain top, but quietly comply. I'd hate for you to be MIA in the future. Life is not always fair, and right doesn't always win. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition Heh... Is this an argument that taxes are a violation of the 5th Amendment? Especially the part that says "...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. "? That's where I derive my idea that we do not "owe" them any services or spending money to provide services or labor without compensation. Heck, CALEA provided funds to the telcos to compensate them... Why the heck are we "special" and not protected?From the arguments here, we have an unfillable debt owed merely for use of unlicensed spectrum... I disagree there's any debt or obligation whatsoever. - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition > > > > >> "you don't give them stuff for free" > >> > >> Yes we do. > > > > Care to quantify this statement? > > Sure, the government has never paid me to give them taxes. > > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?
But they are alike in they both have Harleys... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Its like my old hippie friend told me "the only difference between hippie and yuppie is 50 grand a year" That was in 91. Adjust accordingly for inflation. c -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CALEA Question
A few years ago, I added a line item to my invoices as follows... "Surcharge for Bellsouth, FCC and other regulatory compliance fees and costs." This added fee is based on what I think it cost me to comply with reporting to the FCC, licensed links, and 'hidden' fees that the phone company itemizes inexcess of the actual circuit costs. This is no different than airlines and trucking companies adding 'fuel surcharges' and the quick lube business charging me an 'environmental disposal fee' when I have my oil changed. I added $2.97 per month, at the time it was the same that Bellsouth was charging for the USF on their 'itemized invoices.' I didn't loose one customer, but did have to explain the reason to two and they completely understood. That additional $3 for each DSL and wireless user was worth those two explinations. I don't charge the fee for hosting or dialup plans. There is nothing wrong raising your prices to be competitive with the 'big boys!' :) Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question I think you better just take a rate increase and chalk it up to increased expenses all the way around as opposed to creating a CALEA charge line item. Adding a fee as a line item could get you in trouble with the FTC if not approved as a legitimate added government fee (just my opinion, nothing to base this on other than my gut). Your fuel and electricity have jumped considerably I am sure. I am considering a rate increase over these added costs also. I see no way around it. I have never raised my rates in 10 years. Times are changing I am afraid. Scriv Ross Cornett wrote: > I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under > CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get > underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk > upon themselves by not becoming compliant. > > It appears that it is time to start charging a homeland security fee. > Since we cannot authorize taxes, we can charge fees that will allow us > to mange these cost. By my figures, I will have to charge at least > $1.53 per month per customer. Since this doens't include dialup > customers, my broadband customers will have to incurr this burden alone. > > What are you thougths on this. > > > - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question > > >> Peter R. wrote: >> >>> Why not check with a knowledgeable legal professional instead of >>> guessing? >> >> >> That'd be my boss's department. :D >> >> I'm just a pundit - full of opinions and hot air. >> >>> Now you can choose to ignore it, and say a prayer daily that Barney >>> Fife >>> or any other LEA officer does not knock on your door >> >> >> I'd encourage Barney Fife to knock on my door, I wouldn't mind having >> his autograph. Remember him from "Three's Company"? >> >> Edit: Apparently Don Knotts died last year. Now I'm sad. :( >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xY
RE: [WISPA] WAS: Are you for sale? NOW: Comcast 150 meg offering...YIKES
Maybe THIS is why you REALLY want to sell!!! http://www.4-makingmoney.com/images/money.jpg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WAS: Are you for sale? NOW: Comcast 150 meg offering...YIKES Well maybe this will make a few want to sell: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070509/ap_on_hi_te/fast_cable_modem Comcast Corp. Chief Executive Brian Roberts dazzled a cable industry audience Tuesday, showing off for the first time in public new technology that enabled a data download speed of 150 megabits per second, or roughly 25 times faster than today's standard cable modems. The cost of modems that would support the technology, called "channel bonding," is "not that dissimilar to modems today," he told The Associated Press after a demonstration at The Cable Show. It could be available "within less than a couple years," he said. Personaly, I think this is premature hype. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] online doc sharing
http://www.docushare.com/ Also have a 30-day free trial. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing Law enforcement stuff. Google hasn't signed the needed NDA so we can't host the docs there. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Cc: "Principal WISPA Member List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing > Just out of curiousity, what privacy requirements are you trying to meet > that aren't met by Google Docs? > > Thanks, > Clint Ricker > Kentnis Technologies > > On 5/16/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> The calea committee needs a way to share word docs online. We need to be >> able to edit them etc. online so that our edits don't overlap or get left >> off. >> >> We'd been using google docs but due to some new privacy requirements >> we're >> unable to do that now. We have to have the same functionality on one of >> our >> servers. Anyone know how to get one of the machines set up this way? >> >> The doc needs to be stored on a secure password protected site. >> >> thanks! >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since >> 1999! >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4
RE: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA?
That depends Matt... If EVERYONE on the 'free list' were paid members; who knows if the dues would be enoughfor starters at least! :) - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA? I completely agree with you. WISPA doesn't charge enough to do what I believe should be their mission. -Matt Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Hi Folks, > I am mostly a lurker, being a wireline based ISP, however cannot resist > putting my two cents in it. > > If this is what you all want WISPA to do, then you all need to be realistic > in contributing a heck of lot more than the pidly few bucks to the WISP > fund. More like a few thousand's) $ / year in membership dues. > The type of role you are suggesting WISP do, can be best done by dedicated > Full Time Professionals (Folks like Kris Tome / Jack Unger etc etc ) none of > them are inexpensive nor can afford to work for free. > > Heck, even the US Chamber of Commerce, who calims to play an active role in > Washington DC, gets more in membership dues than WISPA, and they work of a > much much larger base of members (All kinds of business from all over the > US). > > It is great to ask for the Moon, but also have to be realistically prepared > to pay the price for it ! > > (p.s. I am not trying to offend anyone or pick on anyone, just expressing a > dose of reality). > > > Faisal Imtiaz > SnappyDSL.net > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matt Liotta > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dues Value was What is WISPA? > > I know you didn't ask me, but that has never stopped me from speaking up. > > I want WISPA to spend its time and money primarily on spectrum issues. I > like to see the organization meet with the FCC on a regular basis, publish > position papers, and comment on every FCC issue that impacts us. > I'd also like to see it issue a press release on the wires every time it > does so. > > Whatever size this industry actual is much larger than it is perceived to > be. WISPA needs to change that. > > -Matt > > Peter R. wrote: > >> Chadd, Lonnie, and the rest, >> >> It is obviously a sales issue: No one has sold you on the value of WISPA. >> >> Or WISPA is not solving some pain you have. >> >> How about you tell us what would be good value? >> What specifically are you looking for the organization to do for you? >> >> This is a good time (pre-election). >> >> - Peter >> > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRB
RE: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list
Butch, I have also seen more valuable information shared amongst paid members such as contracts for towers, roof rights and end-user agreements. Each of these documents could be well-worth the annual fee individually. You also get voting rights which help you steer WISPA's direction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] What is WISPA? was Promotion of services on-list On Fri, 18 May 2007, Chadd Thompson wrote: >I am sorry but as I mentioned above I can not see from the outside >what WISPA is doing or has going on. Maybe I am not paying close >enough attention, I don't know. I'll just mention TWO examples. Direct $ for $ examples, too. You may not be using these services, but they answer the question, and both were posted right here on this list. 1. Kris Twomey (even now) is selling the legal service of doing the filing for CALEA at $100 (or $125...I can't recall) for WISPA members. He charges $250 to do it for NON WISPA members. That is a direct $125 (worst case) savings. If you use this service, the "real" cost of a WISPA membership is $125. 2. Frank Muto sells an email filtering service (Postini) and has offered to pay for your full WISPA membership with the purchase of some level of service with him. I can't recall the specific details, but his offer makes WISPA membership absolutely free. Those are just 2 examples, both of which were posted right here on this free list. >Looking from the outside it doesn't always appear that the ORG is >able to uphold the code of ethics. This is mainly based off of >discussions held on the freelist. I see comments from members, >officers of the ORG that I feel do not uphold the above listed >items from the code of ethics. I'd really like to understand what you see that makes this a true statement. >Again please read this as an outsider looking in, trying to >understand what WISPA has going on or as done for our industry and >what the value is for me to join. I am not saying WISPA is not >doing or has not done anything for our industry. I just need some >help understanding. I am not gonna "sell" you the organization. But I will work on answering this a little. 1. WISPA is right now working on a standard that will make CALEA safe harbor VERY INEXPENSIVE for WISPs. Not just members. This is an INDUSTRY solution. 2. WISPA has been urging WISPs to file the 477 forms, which is important because it will make us, as an industry, a larger portion of the broadband deployment in the US (statistically) as far as the government is concerned. Why is this important? Besides being the law, government is working to insure that "every American has access to broadband". If we are providing that service in an area and they don't know about it, they will still work on a way to get that access available. 3. WISPA has urged (on several occasions) WISPs to file comments on various spectrum issues that would be beneficial to WISPs. WISPA has (as an organization) filed comments as well. Because we don't have the $$ to hire a lobby, this is the best effort in this regard. Now it's time to ask YOU what YOU have done for our industry. Have you filed comments on the issues that will impact your business? For the most part, over the past couple of years WISPA has. Have you filed your 477? If you're not going to join, then just don't join. Stop making excuses about "what are you doing"...You claim to be on the list since the beginning and you can't see what's been happening? What advantage does WISPA offer you? Give me a break. WISPA has done a LOT, considering the $$ that they have to work with. Either join or don't, but stop acting as though you need to be "sold" because you can't find anything on the website giving you what the value of WISPA is. FWIW, I do agree that WISPA needs to do a better job of selling itself on the website, but the point (in your case) is that you are just using it as an excuse, IMO. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales & Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Compu
RE: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM
Now on to the FCC certification issue! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM Importance: High Way to go MT Chicken Chasing Team ! You latvians rock ! This goes to prove that once again - hands down - Mikrotik is the best PC / SBC Router platform out there bar none ! Regards, JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM I second that :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM I knew that when everyone was getting worked up about Calea that MT would come through. Thanks Mikrotik Brad H On 5/23/07, Frank Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know the technical requirements of CALEA? If so please send > me > a link to the final draft. > thanks frank > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM > > > > Meaning 2.9.44? > > > > Does anyone know if what MT's doing meets the technical requirements of > > CALEA? I know there's still staffing and contact issues. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:28 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] Fw: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM > > > > > > > For those who aren't on Mikrotik's mailing list: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:46 AM > > > Subject: CALEA RouterOS Support and MUM > > > > > > > > >> Eight days until the US MUM! There is still time to get a good deal > on > > > flights and hotel accommodations. http://mum.mikrotik.com/2007/US/ > > >> > > >> The following CALEA features will be included in the next version of > both > > > RouterOS 2.9.XX and 3.X beta. > > >> > > >> CALEA features included in RouterOS > > >> --- > > >> Multiple subject/multiple destination packet interception and > streaming > > >> in > > >> following formats: > > >> > > >> * Call Content Connection (CCC) Interface according to > > >> PKT-SP-ES-DCI-I01-060914 (PacketCable 2.0 PacketCable Electronic > > > Surveillance > > >> Delivery Function to Collection Function Interface Specification) > > >> > > >> * Call Content Connection (CCC) Interface according to ANSI/SCTE > 24-13 > > > 2006 > > >> (IPCalblecom Electronic Surveillance Standard) that is approved > method > > > for > > >> Communication Content delivery to LEA according to > ATIS-113.2007 > > >> (Lawfully Authorized Electronic Surveillance For Internet Access > and > > >> Services) > > >> > > >> * TZSP format - for reception with 'Ethereal', tcpdump, trafr > (sniffer > > > stream > > >> reader for linux) - http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html > > >> > > >> > > >> CALEA-server package > > >> > > >> * accepts multiple CCC streams (identified by destination port/source > > >> address/case id) > > >> > > >> * stores communication content according to "IP Network Access > Intercept > > >> Requirements and Method"(FBI-WISPA draft) specified "full content" > > > intercept > > >> requirements (without out-of-band events) > > >> > > >> * stores communication content of multiple subjects/cases > > >> > > >> * stores communication content in libpcap format > > >> > > >> * new libpcap file based on different conditions > (interval/size/packet > > > count) > > >> > > >> * generates hash for each pcap file (md5/sha1/sha256) > > >> > > >> Initial documentation can be found at: > > >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Calea > > >> > > >> > > >> Don't forget to attend the MUM CALEA Panel Discussion and register > for > > >> the > > > MikroTik CALEA Workshop: > > >> > > >> - MikroTik CALEA Workshop, Wednesday May 30th 1-5PM (registration > > >> required > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > >> - CALEA Panel Discussion, Friday June 1st 11:15-12:45 > > >> http://mum.mikrotik.com/2007/US/agenda > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Training > > >> MikroTik > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: > 5/22/2007 > > > 3:49 PM > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wi
[WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support
I have been approached by a local Hotel to provide Internet access and control for their guest. My concern is the 24-hour support for the hotspot/gateway. Does anyone have suggestions on how much support may be required and how you price such service? Do you offer 24-hour support to the hotel IT department after they are called first by the guest, or all the guest individually place support calls directly to you? - Cliff LeBoeuf - 985-879-3219 - www.cssla.com - www.triparish.net <>-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] QuickMounts
What about using one of these... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4252323 Fred Sanford could probably find one of these from his neighbor :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] QuickMounts JohnnyO wrote: > Anyone ever use these ? http://www.towerstructures.com/catalog/rooftop_products/qwikmounts.html > > JohnnyO > Put up a heavy duty non pen. Those things cost a bundle. Don't forget your promise. :-) -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
