Re: [WISPA] tripod source

2008-02-04 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Got them for 17.95 plus shipping, but I think they are the 3 footers.

Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a source for roof-mount tripods (the 2ft versions).
>
> thanks,
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
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Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode...   

Dennis M. Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
+1 314-686-1302


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS


>I think it's alot easier to deal with Mikrotik as a router & wireless AP,
> due to the interface and ease of configuration.  IP addresses, IP routes,
> bridging, DHCP, DHCP relay...many many things are very easy to configure 
> in
> the Mikrotik interface.
>
> That said...the hardware, and the Atheros wireless driver in StarOS... I'm
> blown away.  Massive throughput & seriously low latency.  We've configured

> a
> pair of WAR4-METROs in a PtP link with a SuperAG (40MHz) channel that has
> been pulling 70megs aggregate.  There was a comment about how expensive 
> the
> boards are... I don't think they're expensive at all.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
> 78 Centennial Loop
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
>
>
>>I won't hold you to it mac.
>> As long as your running the latest V3 Star-os on all the radios involved
>> bridging works perfectly.
>> I have a mostly all routed network, but I do have a 4 bridged PtP shots
>> that work just fine. They are the first hops out of my noc to my
>> network, Downtime hasn't happened. Nothing has not worked and no flakey
>> weird issues have cropped up. On PtMP, I have no idea because it's 
>> routed.
>>
>> Best price I can find is a star-os or now called Lucaya, wp188 533MHz 4
>> port router that lonnie sells bundled with 4 23db cards in a
>> weatherproof enclosure with power supply and poe. The price on that
>> board if you pull out the cost of the cards etc is about 120-130.00.
>> He's always running YSYL deals that is extra cheap.
>>
>> And it's 100% FCC certified.
>>
>> I haven't used MT, so I can't compare the two. I can only tell you what
>> we have.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> Mac Dearman wrote:
>>>   Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very "super"
>>> reliable
>>> huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are
>>> counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not
>>> an
>>> option.
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

 Hi,

 Anyone care to help "compare" a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution
 to StarOS?

 Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone
 add their thoughts...

 Mikrotik features:
 graphical user interface (Winbox)
 more features (Torch, etc)
 more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.)
 Nstreme protocol
 very reliable

 StarOS features:
 FCC certified CPE
 lower price
 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single
 change, such as frequency)
 OLSR feature
 VoIP priority with minimal config
 200 CPE per wireless card (capable)

 Travis
 Microserv


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Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Just a FYI, remember the red cross was down helping people who were
protesting that trail .  They were giving water, food, shelter, and medical
treatment to those who showed up to "PROTEST" .  I understand the right to
protest.  Great.  But why is the "Red Cross" helping these people.  Its like
them helping us cause we showed up at ISPCON!  

I know a number of people who donate Tens of Thousands per year, STOP
because of this.  

Dennis M. Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
+1 314-686-1302


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tornado

Sometimes the Red Cross is not much better.


On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> Without getting political...I'm not sure government is the right  
> vehicle for
> this sort of job...no matter who is running the show.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:00 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tornado
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for your report. I'm sorry that FEMA does not seem to be  
> focused on
> meeting the real needs that people have. On the other hand, I'm  
> sure that
> the FEMA lockdown did a good job of keeping Al Quida terrorists from
> potentially entering the disaster area to cause trouble.
>
> I hope that our new President (whoever that may be) will prove to  
> be a more
> compassionate leader who will be able to motivates FEMA (and for that
> mattter, our whole government) to once again focus on meeting the  
> real human
> needs that people have.
>
> jack
>
>
> Mark Williams wrote:
>> Myself and many others responded to Adkins, Arkansas yesterday...
>>
>> There was a great outpouring of volunteers, equipment, and supplies.
>> Quite literally dump trucks, tractor trailers, and many more pickups
>> w/ trailers hauling in various dozers, back hoes, materials, food /
>> water etc. for clean up and disaster assistance.
>>
>> The FEMA administrators had the place in TOTAL lock down. They would
>> NOT allow assistance efforts to happen.
>> A phrase was coined ... that "the government is more focused on
>> protecting its rights to be government, than it is on assisting the
>> coordination of REAL assistance and aid."
>>
>> Frankly, that statement sums up the debacle that is FEMA response.
>> They completely HALTED a 100% volunteer relief effort!
>>
>> Then they requested that what was REALLY needed was CAMPING GEAR.
>> I nearly lost it.
>>
>> For those who are not familiar, in Mena / Hope Arkansas there are
>> literally HUNDREDS OF SQUARE ACRES of FEMA trailers and RVs parked  
>> and
>> rotting to pieces thanks to FEMA's lame ass efforts to aid Katrina
>> victims. Logically, if they needed housing, it would have been as  
>> easy
>> as requesting the volunteers on hand to organize a convoy of  
>> trucks to
>> drive to Mena / Hope and pickup the trailers and deliver them to
>> Adkins / Clinton, etc. BUT ALAS, FEMA is not logical in their
>> response.
>>
>> I came away from the experience feeling REALLY good about the  
>> American
>> Spirit, it is clearly alive and well with in our people, but VERY
>> clearly not alive in our gov't.
>>
>> The long term effects of such high handedness by FEMA will be
>> disastrous, those who would typically respond will become complacent
>> and apathetic and will no longer respond, because after all the Govt
>> will handle it right? Sad times America, sad times.
>>
>>  Something needs to be done about this...
>>
>> God Bless those whom are in dire need and I pray that things change
>> rapidly. Unfortunately the media crews that were on location had no
>> interest in pointing out the FEMA blockade AGAINST relief efforts.
>>
>> -Mark Williams
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 09:30 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry to reply to my own post, but we service the Macon County  
>>> Tennessee
> area that was hardest hit. We have a POP there for dial-up, but  
> have not
> entered that market with our wireless yet.
>>>
>>> Lots of destruction. The tornado set down and traveled 25 miles  
>>> or more
> without ever lifting. Base ranged from 100 to 400 yards. Rated at  
> an F2 this
> morning by whoever rates them. Most power and telephones had been  
> restored
> as of late last night.
>>>
>>> Of little importance, none of our equipment was damaged. My heart  
>>> and
> prayers to the folks that lost homes and loved ones. I know this  
> type of
> tornadoes hit the mid west all the time, but we were not prepared  
> to see it
> hit as hard as it did in Tennessee. Never been that bad here before.
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-08 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
 Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
>>
>>
>>
>>> I haven't seen those results, but I have seen 12MbpsFDX with a -63 on 
>>> both
>>> sides running Nstream2. If we are going to talk REAL THROUGHPUT - - lets
>>> get
>>> real and everyone use real figures. I ain't talking bench test and 
>>> "maybe"
>>> if I hold one hand in the air, twist my lips standing on one leg.
>>>
>>> I mean real world - whatcha getting?? Whatcha see and is it a bench test
>>> or
>>> are you in the real WISP world? :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:51 PM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
>>>>
>>>> 50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode...
>>>>
>>>> Dennis M. Burgess
>>>> Mikrotik Certified Consultant
>>>> Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
>>>> --WISP/Network Support Services--
>>>> +1 314-686-1302
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:46 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] MT tools

2008-02-12 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
What kind of information do you need?


Dennis M. Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
+1 314-686-1302


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:52 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] MT tools

Hi,

Has anyone found any good tools to do troubleshooting on Mikrotik 
wireless links? Many other vendors provide tools (i.e. Trango has "su 
ping", "testrflink" and "linktest") that allow testing of an individual 
wireless link directly from the AP. The only thing I have found with 
Mikrotik is their bandwidth test and it doesn't show much information.

Any help or ideas are appreciated.

Travis
Microserv




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[WISPA] MUM & ISPCON

2008-02-13 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Just wanted to make sure everyone know that I will be at both the ISPCON and
the MUM in Chicago between May 12th though the 17th.   We will have space at
both events.  We will have PoweRouter Products on-display at both.  

 

For more information:  www.ispcon.com & www.mikrotik.com 

 

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Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri

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Re: [WISPA] MT tools

2008-02-13 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
There are a number of things to do to gauge the quality of a link with MT. 

CCQ is one.  Signal levels, as well as Ping tests will give you most of what
you wish.  

All three put together will tell you.  Also, a ping test over a period of
time is helpful as well.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT tools

The problem with stats is they often are displayed as total loss from the 
beginning of time.  Not specific to an exact period, of controled usage. 
What difference does a particular setting on a radio have, and the ability 
to measure it after the change nad before the next one.
This is why ON-Demand test tools are useful, that home in on a predfined 
time period, and isntantly viewable.

Yes the data is out there, to enable writing the tool. The question is... 
Why hasn't it been written yet?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Victoria Proffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT tools


> Since Trango offers SNMP, could it be programmed to work with the MT?
> We are using the Dude with our Trangos and that works very well.
>
> Victoria
>
> On 2/13/08, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>> >With a product like Trango, they have a utility called "linktest"
>> >that shows packet loss after sending ten sets of 100 packets and
>> >measuring on both sides the loss:
>>
>> With Mikrotik, you have stats for the wireless link as well.  You
>> can double-click an entry under WIRELESS->Registration-Table and you
>> have a stats tab that will show you tx and rx packets, bytes,
>> frames, frame bytes, hardware frame bytes and frames.  The
>> difference between packets and frames is loss on the link.  I agree
>> that it would be nice to have a calculated value displayed, but the
>> information is available.  The packet data is available via snmp as
>> well, though the hardware frame data is not.  You can get (from
>> snmp) the OID that includes errors (in and out) on the wireless link
>> as well as other interfaces.  The OID is found with: "/interface
>> print oid".  Is this what you are wanting?
>>
>> --
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Re: [WISPA] Based on list comments I did a MT ROS upgrade...

2008-02-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
There have been some settings that get lost in the upgrades.  Especially on
532s.  Make sure you make a backup first to be on the safe side.  


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Based on list comments I did a MT ROS upgrade...

Hearing good things about routeros 3.2 I upgraded my office system.
Big problem, look before you leap.  I had an old soekris X86 client
system with a prisim card talking to another 2.9.x system with an SR2
radio.  I upgraded from 2.9.50, to 3.2 and ran into some issues, like
my ethernet port(bridge) lost its address.  Thats not too bad, but the
RF link was out and out weird.  When I pinged the AP from the upgraded
client I would get 500% packet GAIN.  Tons of dups.  Anyway, in
hindsight,  Is there any problem with the new MT drivers and prisim
radios?  What is the best (read safest) way to upgrade?  Sure glad
this was just the office system, and only wasted my time versus
network outages.

Thanks all!
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Re: [WISPA] MT tools

2008-02-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
I work very closely with Mikrotik and I do understand what you are saying.
Lets do this...

What is the exact feature and results that we are looking for.

The reason why I ask, is they will ask!  

This is what I got so far:

10 second test
Test reliability of link
Overall throughput of the link
Packet loss, if any, on the link
Overall link quality

All of this calculated into ?  a Percent?   A number?  

Dennis M. Burgess
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Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT tools

I guess the idea is that MT might be monitoring these lists.
But you are right, the best approach might be to Email MT directly.
But the truth is, Emailing support by an individual will likely not get 
results.
Manufacturers tend to want to see numerous individuals interested in the 
command or feature to jsutify the effort doing it.
By discussing these flaws on a list, is to get all the members familiar with

why these tools are needed, and possibly more members will add additional 
support inquiriies to request these improvements.

For one, I'd like to see the Mikrotik Consultants get involved in asking for

these features. If the consultants that specialize in the product don't 
understand what we need, its not that likely that the manufacurer would 
either. Consultants that represent the manufacturer have much more pull with

them, and a better relationship to discuss these things, and most 
importantly credabilty, to effect change.

With Trango, we effect change, and the reason is that we deal direct with 
the manufacturer and they hear us.  With channel support models, like 
Microtik offers, the manufacturer can lose touch with the end customer. It 
becomes an even worse problem when the manufacturer sells super cheap (which

we like), and the volume grows and each end user's opinion becomes less 
relevent.

One thing I'm very happy about was Mikrotik's support joining as a WISPA 
vendor member.  (Butch, possibly you one also ?)
I believe this gets WISP and Manufacturer closer in touch.

I'm hoping that these threads are not misinterpretted as manufacturer 
bashing, but interpretted as communication, that will effect product 
improvements.
The truth is MT probably offers better testing tools than most WIFI product 
out there.  But there is still room for improvements.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT tools


> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
>>What I really want is a way to right-click on an entry in the
>>Registration table and have an option that says "Linktest". It
>>would test sending 100 packets each direction, 10 times. It would
>>then report:
>
> have you emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this suggestion?  I see
> what you are wanting.  I suggested a way to get the data.  If that
> isn't enough, then send an email to the folks that can do something
> about it.  I hate these threads where the only thing that is
> accomplished is a dead horse is mauled.
>
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> *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
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Re: [WISPA] Router Help

2008-02-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Yep makes a big difference.

Dennis M. Burgess
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bryan Scott
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router Help

Bill Price wrote:
> We are in the process of looking for a new router for our network. What
are
> some routers that others are using?
> 
>  

What are you replacing?  What are your needs, i.e. where's this thing going?





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Re: [WISPA] Router Help

2008-02-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
www.mikrotikrouter.com.  Great for Mikortik Solutions.  1U as well.

Dennis M. Burgess
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bryan Scott
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router Help

Bill Price wrote:
> We are just acquired a wireless network that has 3 tower locations. The
> router they were using was a Dlink DFL210(?) they had set up with a 6MB
> circuit. We need a router that will handle VLANS, handle more bandwidth if
> needed, QoS, firewall (This network does a NAT). Were looking for a
routing
> platform that will handle not only Internet, but VOIP and IPTV in the
> future.
> 

I use 3550 with the EMI image at my tower sites (and used to for a 
little while at our head end).  It's a switch with routing and QoS 
capabilities.  Now EOL, but easy to come by on the used market. 
Replacement models are 3560 and 3750 I believe.

-- Bryan




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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Mesh is a four letter word to most!  



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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:07 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

I'm wondering if there are any integrators or WISPs here on the list
actually using Outdoor Cisco Mesh gear.
If you are. Please contact me offlist.

Thanks

Ralph 





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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VRRP

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
We have done some failover configs using our products and the lan by-pass
feature.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Henry F. Camacho Jr.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VRRP

Sam

I believe the problem you are having here related to the fact that the 
VRRP aren't synchronized on both sides of your routers. 

For example:

MT1 world fails to MT2, however MT1 still has a valid VRRP for the AP side.

Down stream traffic from world actually now is hitting MT2 and proceeds 
to AP, however the upstream path for AP to the world actually passes 
through MT1 which has the failed link.
Unless there is a process to synchronize the VRRPs you will not be able 
to get the desired effect.

Ideally when MT1 fails, MT2 must become master for all VRRPs.

HFC

Sam Tetherow wrote:
> I've been testing out VRRP and it seems to work pretty well if you want 
> to fail over from one machine to another on a single interface.  But 
> what I would really like to be able to do is duplicate my MT routers 
> against equipment failure rather than network failure.
>
> Example:
>
> CPE  AP ---+--MT1- + - WORLD
>   |  |
>   +--MT2 - +
>
> MT1 and MT2 are both routing between AP and the world.
> AP is 172.16.2.0/24
> WORLD is 10.0.0.0/24
> MT1 has
> Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.1
> External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.1
> vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254
> vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254
>
> MT2 has:
> Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.2
> External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.2
> vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254
> vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254
>
> 172.16.2.0/24 is routed to 10.0.0.254
> 172.16.2.0 side has a default gateway of 172.16.2.254
>
> When the AP side of MT1 is unplugged  MT2 takes over and only a couple 
> of pings are dropped.  However if the WORLD side of MT1 is unplugged 
> about 4 pings time out and then I start getting destination unreachable.
>
> The VRRP failover works on both sides.  If the WORLD side of MT1 is 
> unplugged I can ping 10.0.0.254 and get a response from MT2.  But on the 
> internal end of things MT1 is still 172.16.2.254 so I get the host 
> unreachable message.
>
> So what I'm really looking for is high availability for the router and I 
> was hoping that VRRP would do the trick.  I thought about bridging but 
> at NOC I have several networks that all connect to my main MT router and 
> I really don't want to bridge the traffic.
>
> If anyone has a clue, or can definitively say it can't be done with VRRP 
> I would greatly appreciate the help.
>
>   

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Re: [WISPA] Test

2008-03-03 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Pong.

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