Re: [WISPA] IPV6 again?!?
ng the gateway and dns server from the Mikrotik router but I can >>> not ping from the customer PC behind the Mikrotik router. This is the same >>> PC that works if I plug directly in. >>> >>> IPV6 Things do not appear to work as advertised when it comes to static >>> configs. >>> >>> Is it just me or is anyone else running into this? >>> If you solved it care to share? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur Stephens >>> Senior Networking Technician >>> Ptera Inc. >>> PO Box 135 >>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>> 509-927-7837 >>> ptera.com | >>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera >>> --- >>> -- >>> "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and >>> is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. >>> Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or >>> opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not >>> intended to represent those of the company." >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > > -- > Arthur Stephens > Senior Networking Technician > Ptera Inc. > PO Box 135 > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 > 509-927-7837 > ptera.com | > facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera > --- > -- > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and > is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or > opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not > intended to represent those of the company." > > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > -- > Fred R. Goldstein k1iofred "at" interisle.net > Interisle Consulting Group > +1 617 795 2701 > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- *Kevin Neal* Network Administrator Safelink Internet ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Powercode BMU NX216
If you want to void your warranty you can get a DC power supply like http://www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX-HV?sc=8category=981 that will power the BMU. You'll have to find a way to keep the power supply protected as it won't fit into the case. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: I know the official answer from powercode is that in order to have a DC powered BMU, then you need to shell out $1995 for the GX266. My question is, is anyone familiar with the internals of the NX216? Can I void my warranty, take it apart, take out a AC-DC power supply, and wire it in directly to my DC plant? Like I can with say a Ubiquiti toughswitch? I don't have that many subscribers, so the GX266 is way overkill for me at the moment. Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- *Kevin C. Neal* *Safelink Internet Services* *Network Administrator* Phone: (208) 677-8000 Email: *ke...@safelinkinternet.com ke...@safelinkinternet.com* Website: http://www.safelinkinternet.com http://www.safelink.net/ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...
That's entertaining. I wonder how many this happened to... -Kevin On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Whats wrong? No, its not an optical illusion lol Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is this?
It's a 16 Port KVM IP Switch, you have to buy SIPods that are of the USB or PS/2 variety to hook to your server, then you connect this device with the SIPods and you are able to manage multiple servers from one keyboard/monitor, where this also does KVM over IP you can also install the software on your computer to be able to remotely access the servers. One nice thing about a KVMoIP Switch is you have Bios level access to any of your servers. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS I just found one of these literally laying here. Can anyone tell a technology impaired person what it is? Is it still something of value? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
Forgive me if it's changed in newer versions, on version 8 you would go to Reports | Financial | Query-based Accounting Reports, then fill in the start and end dates, select Payments and hit run. It's in there, it's a very common report that we run and it would be nice to have it be one button for the daily entries. -Kevin On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Tony C. Loosle wl-t...@loosle.com wrote: the reports don't exisit. how does she get a list of paid checks out of the system to match up for a deposit? I would love to know that one! LOL that reminds me of Beavis Butthead, where all things in the world are lumped into two categories: This RULES and THIS SUCKS. Tony, your network may be much bigger than mine so billing problems show up more frequently, but, IMHO, billing is alright, not great, not perfect, just good. It's not an accounting package, and our bookkeeper seems to get what she needs out of it to do the books every month. About half of my customers pay with a check, and we put it in through Powercode, so I think your comment about forget it in powercode is a little extreme. On 12/2/2010 1:00 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: Powercode may be great with the BMU, but as for a billing system is really sucks! Forget about basic accounting reports and simply things like a check deposit. Yes, customers still pay with a check. Forget about it in powercode! I agree. Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you intend to integrate with the BMU (bandwidth) management. That's where the real power is, though we're having problems still, with about 5 percent of our customers (those who have remote subnets, like a /30 or /29 or /24). Also some little things. Don't get me wrong, the product is usable and valuable. It's just that with what they want to charge for it these days, I expect for EVERYTHING to work, in MY environment, and for there to be excellent support. We're talking over $1200/mo for the number of subs that I have. For that cost, I should have .15 of a programmer dedicated to fixing my problems, all day, every day. On 12/2/2010 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I believe that a major turn will be the Maxx. I don't understand how so much could be done via shell to begin with (Imagestream). The bmu is what makes the product work for your business. If you just do tickets, bills and such you're wasting your money. I care most about getting it done. Phone, email, morse code I don't care. On Dec 2, 2010 3:12 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Dude, talk with Josh more before you decide that you don't go with them. There's GOT to be something he's doing that I'm not. I've got alot invested in PowerCode, and I wish it would turn the corner for me but it hasn't. On 12/2/2010 12:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: That is hilarious. I just tried it and you weren't joking. I was going to inquire about pricing but guess I won't. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote: Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I just tried calling their sales line. 920-351-1010. Go ahead, call it. I dare you. If I had a phone system like theirs I would have been out of business long ago... Their MAIN greeting sounds like it was recorded A) on a speakerphone and B) in a room with about 50 servers running with 10 fans each. Then you press 1 for Sales and go immediately to voicemail. Try to hit 0 for the operator and you get mailbox not set up. I've been using them for a few years now and have been pretty vocal on this list about them. On 12/2/2010 10:36 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote: Has any of you ever tired Powercode as a backend systems? Does anyone have experience with it compared to Platypus? We have a number of customers ranging between the 300 to 700 clients. I am trying to find a solution I maybe able to recommend them. Billing is an important piece but it also needs to have a ticketing system, be able to monitor clients, record history, etc. The two above I have received the most endorsements for and just wonder which maybe better. Shane KP Performance -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] WWL Cruise
Cheapest plan (250 minutes) was $0.40 per minute.otherwise you had 100 minute packages at $0.55 per minute or pay as you go $0.75 per minute... -Kevin On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Billy, I was on it last year. Internet access was almost cost prohibitive, so I doubt if there are many online. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Billy Williams Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:23 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WWL Cruise Anyone from the list on the WWL Cruise now? Billy Williams CTI Wireless (Computer Techniques, Inc.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Breezecom PRO.11 Configuration Utility
Sent offlist.. -Kevin On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: If you do Jerry that would be great. tnx Jerry Richardson wrote: Ah, I might (very slight chance) have the floppy somewhere in the shop. I'll look. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: But the customer wants the utility. He doesn't want the easy way. he does it that way now. AUGH! Jerry Richardson wrote: You need to console inwith the special cable and set the IP. Once it has an IP you can telnet to it. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: Didn't know they had a utility. Just connected serially through a terminal emulator like HyperTerminal with one of those special cables... If it's BreezeNET then you may not have telnet access to them. But you should be able to serial into them... - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] Breezecom PRO.11 Configuration Utility Any of the old timers have a copy of this old hag laying around? Tnx -B- --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Black Paint on Omni Antenna
Is there any metallic components to that paint? You can purchase Omni's that are black from the factory. -Kevin On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: I took some cheap black enamel spray paint and sprayed down an omni antenna. Thought was to perhaps keep ice off it in winter etc. Clients all seem to drop by about 5db. Is that normal? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Black Paint on Omni Antenna
black pigment is commonly made from carbon black From the web, is it possible that the carbon black is causing this? (I'm not an RF expert especially when it comes to paints -Kevin On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any metallic components to that paint? You can purchase Not on label. Said lead free but all paint is lead free now days. It was dollar store spray paint for a dollar. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache
Centos + Unbound is what I'm using at one location. -Kevin On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Not faster than having your own servers on your own network... ;) Travis Microserv Jerry Richardson wrote: I can't believe how fast the google servers are. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:40, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I am setting up some new DNS servers and I'd like to figure out what the quickest caching DNS server is. Google keeps telling me to go to Open DNS. I'm not opposed to them and may use them as either primary or secondary, but I want at least one server within my own network. If you're looking for off-site service, I'm surprised Google isn't plugging their own public caching-only DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, I think). If you want to install your own, just use BIND. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Private fiber deployments
Depending on the speed they want, and if they own the phone lines, what about a mini-dslam and DSL modems? -Kevin On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I have a situation where a rural housing development (very rural, up in the mountains, far far from town, heavily wooded) is wanting broadband, and it seems to me that the best way would be to wire these guys up. I have 900 gear onsite, but the fact that the area is steep, rugged, and heavily timbered, means I can't get even 900 to work well in it. When the original owner/developer started this thing, he put in underground power and phones to some of it, and some of it's in the air. The roads are not county property, they are owned by the HOA that runs the development. Anyone familiar with what legal entanglements and requirements are involved in stringing fiber? I would need to run about 1-2 miles, at absolute most, and it would pass 30 to 40 homes / yet undeveloped lots. Where do I look for best practices for build out, who's done this kind of stuff? Any input or experiences with this appreciated. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] anyone know this ROHN tower?
http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-ssv-self-supporting-towers On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Does anyone know this ROHN SSV tower? I can't find the thing on ROHN's website anywhere. I can pick one up brand new still unbolted with base bolts and everything for $13,000. May even be able to get it a little cheaper. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
You would think so, but when I go to a bigger city, it performs flawlessly. -Kevin On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Kevin - that's your phones fault, not ATT. As much as I hate admitting that. VVM works on the latest update of the Bold. On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to check my visual voicemail or get online.ATT sucks around here, so far. Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired. -Kevin On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering apple has to approve everything before it is allowed. But at the time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward. Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start experiencing withdrawal after about an hour. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer gadget. If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s ! http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to check my visual voicemail or get online.ATT sucks around here, so far. Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired. -Kevin On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering apple has to approve everything before it is allowed. But at the time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward. Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start experiencing withdrawal after about an hour. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer gadget. If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s ! http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Writing - Technical Training Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Testing radios
We usually just test a few miles from a tower. A laptop, canopy, extension cord, spare parts and tools. It's not soo much fun in winter weather, but we make sure that signals are within 3-5 db of each other. We know what we should be getting from our test location, we also run a 30 second bandwidth test as well. -Kevin On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: Hi, We tend to get radios back from techs with notes that say something like bad radio or low signal. Things that aren't obviously broken tend to sit around and collect dust. Does anyone have a efficient way to test 802.11a/b/g radios? Most of our equipment is MikroTik, so my plan was to do a conductive test between a known good radio and the radio in question with 80 dB or so of attenuator stacked between them, check the rx signal on both ends, and run a bw test for a set amount of time. Is there anything else that I should take into consideration, or perhaps a completely different approach? I was looking at these attenuators... http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/UNAT-30+.pdf I don't think precision is really an issue as long as they're consistent from one test to another. Thanks, -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Call me cheap I guess. I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in a week or so). $7500 deductible. Next year my rate will drop, after the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the $10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until 10k is paid. I don't mind it, I'd rather not have to pay the extra per month. Just a quick comparison, if I pay $229/mo vs $650/mo, if I max my deductible for the year I pay $1698 more than Marlon, but if I only hit $750, I saved $5052. I'd rather put money in the bank and have it work for me than giving it to an insurance company. -Kevin On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per person. The wife's is covered by her work. No dental and a crappy vision plan. What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO much government interference and no lawsuit protection. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] wireless mysteries
Hrm...disturbed the cable run(s) on the way up? Orwireless card in your laptop. -Kevin On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Here's a fun one I had the other day. I have several Trango AP's and 2 Mikrotik backhauls on a water tank. I am making some upgrades to one of the backhaul links (better wireless card). I head up to the top of the tank, take out my laptop, plug it in to the switch up there and boot up. I head for the first backhaul and before I even open the enclosure, I start getting alerts (SMS messages) about BOTH of my backhaul links having problems. I haven't touched anything on them yet. Figured out the problem and fixed it within about 20 minutes. Any guesses what the problem was? Interested to see what everyone would suspect first. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...
But I also have a few scripts that will make all of the changes I need, sans the SSID, Frequency, IP address. There is still a little bit of a learning curve, but for the basic setups you don't have to teach them more than the variables. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: But that's the same complaints a lot of people have when comparing the legacy UBNT and MT. UBNT is basically plug and play while MT is virtually limitless on your configuration options. I can train even my wife to install a backhaul and could do it within an hour but the complexity of Mikrotik adds significantly to the learning curve. If you want quick and easy, plug and play, Ubiquiti. Complexity, MT. But I'm not meaning to discourage you whatsoever. It's the little guy in the corner who comes up with real innovation. The big guys tend to swoop down and claim it once it looks good. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product... Actually, it's far better than cost-effective. It's flexible, in both hardware and capabilities. Firewall, routing, routing daemons, and other things. Frankly, I find the physical aspects of the Airmax stuff frustratingly limited. I've grown fond of my immense ability to do creative stuff with Star-OS and a wide array of physical forms - especially since much of my network relies on low power consumption. AirMax, deployed as an AP and clients... seems ok. But that's only a small part of a good network. -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product... Availability is supposedly resolved. We'll see. Routing... there is a full SDK. You can do anything you want on those things. The new ones have 400+MHz proc's, plenty to do some routing/firewalling. I just can't see a home grown solution like you're proposing being cost-effective. We spent about 2 months on a project just like this, and started to have some pretty awesome performance and results. Then UBNT stuff came out. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Given UBNT's record of unavailability of product, and the inability to route via the interface, I vastly prefer this to UBNT's products. Now, mind you, I'm not really putting them down, but this is an excellent infrastructure tool... Routing and other capabilities that vastly exceed some better known... -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:25 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product... Is there really much need for this, given the new AirMax product line? I'm just saying... On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: What would you call a totally proprietary, TDMA based protocol, without ACK or CSMA? Doesn't look a whole lot like 802.11x, but if you wish to say it is, then, for you it is :) -- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product... If you are using Atheros based hardware, it's still 802.11... regardless of what software you put on top of it. Travis Microserv MDK wrote: If you're a WISP and have interest in using commodity - off the shelf - Atheros based hardware to achieve higher than ethernet speeds over wireless... This is not a tweak of 802.11, it is a completely different mode... There is currently an opportunity to do so, where most of the work has been done by various others in the FreeBSd community, but it is not integrated or packaged as a useful WISP product, and that's what needs to be done. This does not need to result in an open source release, due to the relaxed BSD license. Or, it can. But I'm looking for some people who have experience with freebsd, and have an interest in integrating what could be an awesome performing product using inexpensive commodity hardware. email me at pda at neofast dot net or mark at neofast dot net -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have to install. OS independent then, as long as they don't write it specifically for IE :( -Kevin On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So I'll always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude, WinBox). Greg On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Josh, you are correct we are not the same person. I live in a world that windows is operated on 90% on all business computers. I don't live in a world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good. Besides if I was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why would I program for just linux. I would program for the standard. More to the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment. I don't feel your comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product. The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you must use a windows computer to configure it. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8 Software easy to use Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still? Not sure how in the world you could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes. The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both ends. Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends. Link extremely stable $4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup I called Tech support and asked what I forgot. Very happy. Replaced frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire! -Kevin On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house. My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the same as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line? Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring is virtually unused. Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?
Trango began life as Sunstream, they changed names way back. -Kevin On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The back looks a little different for a Trango but otherwise it looks identical. I think Sunstream made the antennas for them a long time ago, but now Trango makes their own. I took a few apart in the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: Right. These aren't/weren't Trango. We bought just the antenna itself, and put MikroTik inside it. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net wrote: Rick, I think he is asking on just the antennas themselves. I do not believe trango manufactured the antenna element and enclosure. A customer of ours has a closet full of damaged Trango radios that were well out of warrantee (not at all bashing trango, static and surge happens.). We have wondered if we can utilize the antennas/enclosures for MTK type cpe. Has anyone tried that with success? Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel? That would be a Trango 5800 series unit. http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access /Access5830-System.aspx http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access%0A/Access5830-System.aspx The better question is it an AP or CPE? The only way to tell is to log into it. -RickG On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We have a couple of these, that I think we bought from Titan Wireless years ago. They don't work well for simualtaneous dual-pol operation, but having the ability to switch back and forth is excellent. They look kinda like what Trango was using, I think. Anyone else use them, or know who makes them, or where we could buy a couple more? [image: ?ui=2view=attth=124c008fa82282ecattid=0.1disp=attdrealattid=ii_124c008f a82282eczw] [image: ?ui=2view=attth=124c00924c58a1f4attid=0.1disp=attdrealattid=ii_124c0092 4c58a1f4zw] [image: ?ui=2view=attth=124c0094cee1f93eattid=0.1disp=attdrealattid=ii_124c0094 cee1f93ezw] Thanks! Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
Does the wireless link by chance have the rapid port shutdown feature? If so, you may have a wireless link issue. -Kevin On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch. Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 14:15:10.273 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up I know the gig port is going up and down but does it tell you anything else? Tnx. -B- -B- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums
I'm pretty sure the limit is just CPU/Memory. We currently 112 routing entries in one of our networks, this is on a network with 24 OSPF routers. -Kevin On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Jory Privett j...@wccs.net wrote: For all of you routing gurus out there, On MikroTiks version, or any other brand, of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in a single OSPF Area? Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there something else that dictates it? Jory WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber
I was recently quoted $300,000 to break into a long-haul fiber route (not Verizon), that was to cover the bulk of the equipment costs to break in and then they could give me a good rate per megabyte. -Kevin On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:50 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: I'm assuming this is hopeless, but somebody here can probably confirm: Verizon has fiber running down the dirt road that passes by a grain leg I'm using. (I'm told it was put in for 911 service to Bath, MI) Is it possible to have them tap into it and sell bulk bandwidth to me? For less than 10s of thousand$? If it helps, there is a small concrete vault nearby that the fiber runs thru. The farmer says the cover has been left open on that for years. You can look in and see a metal can (about 8 by 2') that the fiber runs thru. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber
Did I mention I'd have to run 30+ miles of fiber just to get to this pop they'd put in? -Kevin On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: At that rate you could run your own fiber, including license fees for the poll's or underground. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:12 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber I was recently quoted $300,000 to break into a long-haul fiber route (not Verizon), that was to cover the bulk of the equipment costs to break in and then they could give me a good rate per megabyte. -Kevin On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:50 PM, John Valenti wrote: I'm assuming this is hopeless, but somebody here can probably confirm: Verizon has fiber running down the dirt road that passes by a grain leg I'm using. (I'm told it was put in for 911 service to Bath, MI) Is it possible to have them tap into it and sell bulk bandwidth to me? For less than 10s of thousand$? If it helps, there is a small concrete vault nearby that the fiber runs thru. The farmer says the cover has been left open on that for years. You can look in and see a metal can (about 8 by 2') that the fiber runs thru. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Low Voltage Disconnect
You can use this as an LVD only. If your load is under 10amps. http://www.mrsolar.com/page/MSOS/PROD/morningstar/SS-10L-24V -Kevin On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Also, anything else that is lower cost that is reliable? Any AGM chargers that have LVD built in? How about using a standard charger with an outboard charge controller/LVD? Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:50 AM To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Low Voltage Disconnect Any comments on this unit? http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=58646eventPage=1 Thanks [cid:image001.jpg@01CA5305.743C2100] Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi http://www.aircloud.com Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 x2 P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams
Choices choices choices.Qwest out here, everything else, you pay Qwest 2x to get to them. 360 Networks is breaking out some fiber here soon though. -Kevin On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a GigE circuit to the mix, and I've got a choice of: Abovenet Cogent Global Crossing Level3 Savvis I'm looking for recommendations of who the better upstream is. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects
Gotta love the entire country being colored from the satellite/research grant applications. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/silvermap/broadbandmap.aspx?program=ARRA Works now. Very few parts of the country don't have any projects covering them. Any way to tell who they are? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects Here is a link to maps of the projects: http://bit.ly/3p2be3 I count four cell phone companies in my areas looking for stimulus money to expand their existing phone networks. What a crock! Also, a big chunk of the country is covered by the Satellite providers wanting money to upgrade their satellite network. Since when does that actually improve broadband availability? I guess it is sort of like broadband-lite. Ack! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Firmware needed...
On it's way offlist. -Kevin On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Could someone please send me Motorola Canopy v7.3.6 DES firmware? I got a site down only thing I got around is a older P9 non-advantage AP but it is running 7.2.9 so can not set in the web interface to hardware scheduling so I can upgrade to v8- since it requires 7.3.6. / Eje WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems. One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is: We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience. There may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well, but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well. These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely do we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware. I have had a few problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to update the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato. -Kevin On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks. Why not Linksys? You can always put third party firmware on it if you want. I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one. I've even taken a few of them out of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE. At 55 bucks, they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more configurable. Robert West Just Micro digital Services Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where I can disable the NAT capability... making it a bridge. I used to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive ($100). I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area. No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer to Bandwidth Ratio
We monitor our bandwidth usage and when we are consistently hitting about 80% we look to upgrade bandwidth. -Kevin On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but what ratio are some of you using for customer vs. available bandwidth? We aren't experiencing any problems at the moment but I want to know when we should start looking to add capacity. Our competitor is running 20 up and 20 down but has 500+ customers on it and if I do a speed test the pings are fast, 32 or so, but it's really jerky on the download and uploads. So.. What is a good REAL WORLD ratio that you use that is smooth? Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Processor Load
Connection tracking? Do you have all of the extra packages you don't use disabled? I've seen this once with web proxy enabled and someone using it to send spam. -Kevin On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Anyone know an easy way to figure out what a 532 with 2 PtP links on it would be running at 80+%? No queues, no filters. Moving about 2Mbps from the 2 backhauls down the wire. -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T1 bandwidth pricing
I haven't asked about T1 prices around here, but I know an in-state Qwest to Qwest DS3 was quoted to me at over $10,000/mo. -Kevin On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: T1 pricing here in this area, Central Ohio, is just under $800.00 for one point of the route with ATT including internet access. The VPN and equipment is your own doing once it gets to their demarc, at least that's my take on dealing with them. The thing with being between cities, however I was a network install manager for Qwest in a former life.. The cost to the provider varies depending on the path they are forced to take due to the available facilities you route through. That's cost, not the price charged to the customer. A route that is entirely upper east coast will drive you nuts in cost and facilities because it's saturated but if you route to the Midwest it's cheap. You can easily have one end that is crazy expensive and another end that is dirt cheap, the price the salesperson will charge will be depending on the estimated total cost of the 2 points. AND, more time than not, the provider has to lease facilities from another company to make the path. Lots and lots and lots of variables. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Femi Adalemo Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:55 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] T1 bandwidth pricing Hi friends, I'm conducting some market research and would like to know what T1 pricing between different cities for corporate VPNs has been in your area over the past few months / years, I would also like to know what the breakdown of the pricing is (capacity lease, support, equipment, etc.) any information you have on this would be greatly appreciated. PS this is not limited to US markets Thanks Femi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone serve Elco Nevada?
I think Beehive does. -Kevin On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone on the list serve Elco Nevada? if so what equipment do you use? Looking for a provider for a customer who is moving. Thanks Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole
I think they confuse the delete button with the spam button over there at AOL. -Kevin On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM, David E. Smithd...@mvn.net wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless. They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again. Which one? They probably want you to sign up for Smart Network Data Services, which is free and has decent automated tools if you're into that sort of thing. If you're running all your email stuff in-house, it's a good idea to sign up for that, and AOL's Feedback Loop. The latter is prone to false-positives (basically any time an AOL user hits the spam button, you get notified, and it turns out many AOL users hit that button for literally every email they receive) but it can be a valuable tool. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
Here's one with the 532 incuded. http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But does boot time correlate with PPS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433
http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008pps.pdf Well, pps wise, it looks like the 433 is around 80kpps and the 433 ah is around 140kpps. Best performance pps that the 333 can do is 80kpps. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Kevin's link http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless. I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433. Josh Luthman wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net ke...@safelink.net wrote: We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed. Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] UPS RFP
http://packetflux.com/ I don't think he has a lot of info about the PoE units on the website, they're fairly new. -Kevin On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, NGLn...@ngl.net wrote: Where can I get information on the Forrests SiteMonitors or similar products? Thanx NGL -- From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS RFP Have the charging unit connected to deep cycle batteries, install one of Forrests SiteMonitors, or a Mikrotik that can sense input voltage, then monitor that via SNMP. You can get the PoE injectors and control them with the SiteMonitor as well. I'm just writing a web interface to talk SNMP to Forrests SiteMonitors so that I don't have to teach everyone how to do an snmpset from the command line. -Kevin On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Need Advise Where to find: 12V output 120V input IP/SNMP control Outdoor Style (NEMA) Anyone make such a beast. I hate the idea of having to use a AC UPS to convert its battery back to AC just to switch it back to DC at the POE. What a waste of electricity and it lowers Tower uptime in a power outage. I know you could just use a charging unit connected to deep cycle batteries but what happens when the power goes out and you had no idea and the battery get down to 8v. Surly there is someone out there with one that's $1k. Shouldn't be more than a couple hundred bucks. Steve RC-WiFi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS version 2.11.0. I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN clients. begin rant that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers G end Rant We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant. We still use lots of StarOS for Backhauls. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units. It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we not found anything. Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client? Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on the client machine. We see the problem on any type of download regardless of how it is done. Steve Steve Barnes wrote: I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would make quick work of trees..still haven't tried it yet. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I like my 30 year old Johnsred... Marlon K. Schafer wrote: LOL I don't have a Stihl. I have a Pulan and an Echo though! hehehehe It would sure be nice to be able to do that! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org rharn...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw. It will do wonders for link integrity! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM To: w...@part-15.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ? Yes. Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ? Not detecting any. Could be a phone or something though. Something that comes and goes. This really seemed to start with a change in the weather though. Try something other than Trango ? Haven't tried that yet. I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location. This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also introduce another point of failure. The best part? There are only 15 subs off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just yet. Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get). This is in a huge storm corridor. marlon -- Original Message -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: w...@part-15.org Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700 I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs. Sometimes much less. The link is 2.3 or so miles. There are TWO pine trees in the way. What would you guys use? I need to get more speed to the remote tower. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com rgunder...@gmail.com To: w...@part-15.org w...@part-15.org Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids did the trick. -RickG On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net j...@mtin.net wrote: Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports them. Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net j...@mtin.net From: Jeremy Grip g...@nbnworks.net g...@nbnworks.net Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM To: w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at the far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of QOS for VoIP, and price matters. TIA, Jeremy Grip North Branch Networks, LLC Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.51/2151 - Release Date: 06/03/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
I've found Cisco ports are more expensive than a Mikrotik distribution router. We currently have a Cisco handling BGP and upstream connections, then we distribute it using a switch to multiple Mikrotik boxes that distribute and route(OSPF) to our various backhauls. I'd cringe to think what it would cost for us to run all of our radios at our NOC into a cisco. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Even if I go to a NPE-G1 or G2 I still need a total of 5 ports. 1 for inbound connection. 2 for outbound to radios that serve different towers 1 for local network of servers etc. 1 for colo customer. How do I add those other two ports? Randy Cosby wrote: Which NPE are you using? Randy Matt Jenkins wrote: I have a 7204VXR router as my core. I am looking at upgrading from a 100mb ethernet to a gigE. I am having a really hard time find out how I can add gigabit ethernet (via RJ-45 connectors) to this router. I have two spare slots of expansion cards but I cannot find a card that does gig. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik OSPF question
Subject changed to help with filters. :) Do you have both /30's in the networks tab? Look at the Neighbors tab, do you see the second router listed there? If so add the Adjacency and State columns to your view, what state does it say it's in? -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF question Well I have 1 Main Router with 2 peers on the same Eth port, I receive routes from 1, but not from the 2nd. Im using the same area for both, different networks (2 /30) All are Mt 3.23 with routing test, the only difference is that the 2 exchanging routes are rb1000, the other one is a x86 machine Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF question On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote: Can I have several neighboors under the same interface? Yes. I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the same area on the same interface? This is common for a broadcast network, actually. What is it that makes you ask? Are you seeing problems and wanting to clarify if this is a symptom of the problem? -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF question
Yes you can. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OSPF question Can I have several neighboors under the same interface? I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the same area on the same interface? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Copper Combo Wire
So..what about this...get an adjustable voltage power supply. Install the RG6 or whatever coax/wire would handle the load/distance. Adjust the voltage with a meter up top so that you have ~24-28v at your equipment? -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Copper Combo Wire Ive used RG8 coax in the past to deliver 24V DC to about 600ft, but not at 1500ft. RG6 has significantly less loss over distance than 24AWG wire. Dave Hulsebus Scott Reed wrote: Belden makes this, but I don't have a number for it. I would be really cautious if they are running 1500' single run for POE. Need to do the voltage loss calculation to be sure to use the correct power supply. Jeff Broadwick wrote: Hi All, One of my customers is looking for these critters for a 1500 foot tower. Gig fiber for the data, copper for POE. Any ideas? Regards, Jeff ImageStream - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.21/2104 - Release Date: 05/08/09 06:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Realtime Geographic Visualization of Network
For backbone links we do this already with PHP Weathermap. Monitor your backhaul signal/throughput/ping time etc with an snmp package that stores it in rrd files, then make your map in weathermap and point to the right rrd files for that node/links information. http://www.network-weathermap.com/ -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Realtime Geographic Visualization of Network How much would you pay for something like this? Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much on larger orders. We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was 5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Here is the Linksys solution: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger orders for cheaper to resell though. But it plugs straight into the outlet... small form factor. Not 802.11a though. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster RouterOS. We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and rebroadcast :) This is the simplest way. We can do this with MESH setups, routed or bridged :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Aaron D. Osgood wrote: We're looking for a low cost device that our customers can (preferably) self install in their locations to boost or repeat their WiFi (802.11 A, B, and G) Suggestions? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
I have found Ingram Micro to be more expensive than Newegg every time, with the exception of that 5% off we got. This is only on Linksys gear, we have had too many problems with D-Link, Netgear, Belkin etc We standardized on only selling the WRT54GL anymore. Charge the customer $90 installed, we'll replace it and handle the RMA during the first year. Once we explain that we've found these to be the best bang for the buck most customers will purchase them. -Kevin. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster I wouldn't count on a discount from a reseller like Newegg... go to one of the distributors like Ingram Micro... there are four options: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/wheretobuy When I had my own company as a side job thing I had an account with a disty (I can't recall who) so I could get better pricing on D-link gear... made it so I could sell it much cheaper to my end users (granted Best Buy et. Al. also got those mail in rebates which I didn't... so they could work out in the long run being cheaper on a one/two scale) Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much on larger orders. We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was 5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Here is the Linksys solution: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger orders for cheaper to resell though. But it plugs straight into the outlet... small form factor. Not 802.11a though. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster RouterOS. We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and rebroadcast :) This is the simplest way. We can do this with MESH setups, routed or bridged :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Aaron D. Osgood wrote: We're looking for a low cost device that our customers can (preferably) self install in their locations to boost or repeat their WiFi (802.11 A, B, and G) Suggestions? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- - - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- - - WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
Is this doing any NAT? Is connection tracking enabled? Do you have all unneeded packages disabled? We have a few RB600's out there and they do fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of them have the 564 daughterboard in them. -Kevin Neal -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread
We have RBS setup, the product as a whole is unrefined and cumbersome, but they do have some nice features. I haven't experimented with any other software, so I don't know what else is out there. Their BitBackup requires local storage of a database, so if you're backing up 50G of data for a customer, they better have an extra 50G of hard drive space for the local copy. We've just gone to selling them an external USB drive when they signup. As well as doing the initial dump to an external drive then copy it direct to the server when we get back to the office. -Kevin Neal -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread IMO stay as far away from remote-backup.com's product as possible. We bought into their front and it turned out to be a very unrefined product that was cumbersome to install on the customer side and their support was practically non-existent. I've heard of other people having success with RBS but we dropped it and wrote off our losses after much frustration. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there. It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client. It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage). It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program. It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1937 - Release Date: 02/06/09 11:31:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?
You can try XCEL Outsourcing (http://xceloutsourcing.com/). They are more into doing appliance type setups but they do make custom enclosures for customers. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures? Anyone know of a metal fab to make some custom 1u enclosures for Mikrotik Routerboards? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time than you would have gained from speeding. Kevin Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle I believe the 8mpg but 80mph? -RickG On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in sick. Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover... ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed. ...I get 10 on a good day. :) Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle fyi, it's not a van... http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sp ort-Utility.jpeg I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL). Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though. Leather, DVD for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever had) etc. It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the standard version. So when you get one make sure you look for the one with the 3rd seat. http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5f Accessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_ odkw=gmc+envoy_osacat=0 These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer. The XUV version looks pretty interesting too. I ALMOST got one of them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal. http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm They have some of those on ebay too: http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%25 7C65%253A12%257C39%253A1_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories_tr ksid=p3286.c0.m14_pgn=2 laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm. Steel and cold just do not mix. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL. It's the one with the 3rd seat. I'm only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is totally loaded. It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no real flaws. I did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't show up at first. The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach. Everything else sits well inside. As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the winter and cold in the summer. The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too. Best of all? No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one. EVERYONE knows my rig. That alone is a nice sales too. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: [WISPA]
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. I haven't tried anything MPLS yet, we've been too busy to experiment with it. The only troubles I've ran into with Mikrotik OSPF has been the occasional reboot required when we have a backhaul link flapping constantly, as well as some problems with some redundant customer routing. We have several customers that are paying extra for redundant links, we are giving them a /30 and installing a Mikrotik router with OSPF running. We've had a time or two where our normal traffic would route through their connection instead of our backbone(not sure why), but that was fixed when we started filtering the advertised routes. I don't remember who it was, but about two years ago I visited with a WISP that was running several thousand customers on a bridged network (STP IIRC). They were using the MAC dst-nat functionality to forward all broadcasts to their PPPoE server at one end of the network, they said it was working very well for them. -Kevin Neal Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? just coming back to the original topic: is everybody using routed backbone or somebody is playing with the switched/mpls thing? :) Thank you Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
