But I also have a few scripts that will make all of the changes I
need, sans the SSID, Frequency, IP address.  There is still a little
bit of a learning curve, but for the basic setups you don't have to
teach them more than the variables.

-Kevin


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Robert West <[email protected]> wrote:
> But that's the same complaints a lot of people have when comparing the
> legacy UBNT and MT.  UBNT is basically plug and play while MT is virtually
> limitless on your configuration options.  I can train even my wife to
> install a backhaul and could do it within an hour but the complexity of
> Mikrotik adds significantly to the learning curve.  If you want quick and
> easy, plug and play, Ubiquiti.  Complexity, MT.
>
> But I'm not meaning to discourage you whatsoever.  It's the little guy in
> the corner who comes up with real innovation.  The big guys tend to swoop
> down and claim it once it looks good.  :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...
>
> Actually, it's far better than cost-effective.
>
> It's flexible, in both hardware and capabilities.    Firewall, routing,
> routing daemons, and other things.
>
> Frankly, I find the physical aspects of the Airmax stuff frustratingly
> limited.
>
> I've grown fond of my immense ability to do creative stuff with Star-OS and
> a wide array of physical forms - especially since much of my network relies
> on low power consumption.
>
> AirMax, deployed as an AP and clients...  seems ok.    But that's only a
> small part of a good network.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jayson Baker" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:51 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...
>
>> Availability is supposedly resolved.  We'll see.
>>
>> Routing... there is a full SDK.  You can do anything you want on those
>> things.  The new ones have 400+MHz proc's, plenty to do some
>> routing/firewalling.
>>
>> I just can't see a home grown solution like you're proposing being
>> cost-effective.  We spent about 2 months on a project just like this, and
>> started to have some pretty awesome performance and results.
>>
>> Then UBNT stuff came out.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, MDK <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Given UBNT's  record of unavailability of product, and the inability to
>>> route via the interface, I vastly prefer this to UBNT's products.
>>>
>>> Now, mind you, I'm not really putting them down, but this is an excellent
>>> infrastructure tool...    Routing and other capabilities that vastly
>>> exceed
>>> some better known...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jayson Baker" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:25 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related
>>> product...
>>>
>>> > Is there really much need for this, given the new AirMax product line?
>>> > I'm just saying...
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, MDK <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What would you call a totally proprietary,  TDMA based protocol,
>>> >> without
>>> >> ACK
>>> >> or CSMA?
>>> >>
>>> >> Doesn't look a whole lot like 802.11x, but if you wish to say it is,
>>> >> then,
>>> >> for you it is :)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]>
>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:36 PM
>>> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related
>>> >> product...
>>> >>
>>> >> > If you are using Atheros based hardware, it's still 802.11...
>>> >> > regardless
>>> >> > of what software you put on top of it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Travis
>>> >> > Microserv
>>> >> >
>>> >> > MDK wrote:
>>> >> >> If you're a WISP and have interest in using commodity - off the
>>> >> >> shelf -
>>> >> >> Atheros based hardware to achieve higher than ethernet speeds over
>>> >> >> wireless...     This is not a tweak of 802.11, it is a completely
>>> >> >> different
>>> >> >> mode...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is currently an opportunity to do so, where most of the work
>>> has
>>> >> >> been
>>> >> >> done by various others in the FreeBSd community, but it is not
>>> >> integrated
>>> >> >> or
>>> >> >> packaged as a useful WISP product, and that's what needs to be
>>> >> >> done.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This does not need to result in an open source release, due to the
>>> >> >> relaxed
>>> >> >> BSD license.     Or, it can.   But I'm looking for some people who
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> experience with freebsd, and have an interest in integrating what
>>> >> >> could
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> an awesome performing product using inexpensive commodity hardware.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> email me at pda  at neofast dot net or mark at neofast dot net
>>> >> >>
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