[WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes
To list members: Yesterday, Redline hosted a conference call with 15 operator participants to kick off a coalition of operators who have deployed or plan to deploy broadband wireless systems in the 3.65 GHz band in the US, with the goal to discuss the current license exempt rules, some of the coexistence issues being experienced in the field, suggestions for improvements/resolution, and the necessary steps to influence change within the FCC. I encourage any interested operators (or vendors) to contact Keith Doucet, Redline's VP Customer Advocacy (kdou...@redlinecommunications.com or +1.905.479.8344 x2298). Keith has participated in the rule setting for the 3.65 GHz band in Canada and has extensive experience in working with regulators internationally. Keith plans on hosting a follow-up call next week on this topic. Thanks, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes
Mike, We have been working with the FCC team for the past year on a mechanism that has already been accepted by Industry Canada for the new 3.65 GHz band opening up this winter (entire 50 MHz). It seems to us that the upper 25 MHz may never be opened up; this is a key action item for the committee. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes Has anyone put forth a serious effort to develop the mechanism they call for, or have people seriously tried, and just been rejected without just reasoning? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List btop-...@wispa.org Cc: Keith Doucet kdou...@redlinecommunications.com Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes To list members: Yesterday, Redline hosted a conference call with 15 operator participants to kick off a coalition of operators who have deployed or plan to deploy broadband wireless systems in the 3.65 GHz band in the US, with the goal to discuss the current license exempt rules, some of the coexistence issues being experienced in the field, suggestions for improvements/resolution, and the necessary steps to influence change within the FCC. I encourage any interested operators (or vendors) to contact Keith Doucet, Redline's VP Customer Advocacy (kdou...@redlinecommunications.com or +1.905.479.8344 x2298). Keith has participated in the rule setting for the 3.65 GHz band in Canada and has extensive experience in working with regulators internationally. Keith plans on hosting a follow-up call next week on this topic. Thanks, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ �\�K�ܙ��\\�XZ[ ��\�[\� WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes
Another key topic -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes How about reducing the size of grandfathered satellite station exclusion zones. Dealing with SES Americom is worse than dealing with a government agency. Pat Kevin Suitor wrote: Mike, We have been working with the FCC team for the past year on a mechanism that has already been accepted by Industry Canada for the new 3.65 GHz band opening up this winter (entire 50 MHz). It seems to us that the upper 25 MHz may never be opened up; this is a key action item for the committee. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes Has anyone put forth a serious effort to develop the mechanism they call for, or have people seriously tried, and just been rejected without just reasoning? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List btop-...@wispa.org Cc: Keith Doucet kdou...@redlinecommunications.com Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz Coalition to approach FCC for rule changes To list members: Yesterday, Redline hosted a conference call with 15 operator participants to kick off a coalition of operators who have deployed or plan to deploy broadband wireless systems in the 3.65 GHz band in the US, with the goal to discuss the current license exempt rules, some of the coexistence issues being experienced in the field, suggestions for improvements/resolution, and the necessary steps to influence change within the FCC. I encourage any interested operators (or vendors) to contact Keith Doucet, Redline's VP Customer Advocacy (kdou...@redlinecommunications.com or +1.905.479.8344 x2298). Keith has participated in the rule setting for the 3.65 GHz band in Canada and has extensive experience in working with regulators internationally. Keith plans on hosting a follow-up call next week on this topic. Thanks, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ �\�K�ܙ��\\�XZ[ ��\�[\� WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] Gartner predicts new digital divide - High-speed broadband to create communities of haves and have nots
Gartner predicts new digital divide High-speed broadband to create communities of haves and have nots Ian Williams V3.co.uk, 09 Sep 2009 - Growth in localised, high-speed residential broadband services is beginning to open a new chasm between urban and rural areas in terms of internet access, according to new findings from Gartner. The analyst firm's Emerging Technology Analysis: Ultra-High-Speed Residential Broadband Internet, Global Consumer Services report predicts that a new digital divide will have emerged within three to five years between those able to access residential broadband speeds of 50Mbit/s or higher and those limited to basic access speeds. AdvertisementThis is despite efforts such as the UK government's Digital Britain project, which aims to provide a basic broadband service to everyone who wants it. Ultra broadband will exacerbate the digital divide among different world regions, as well as within countries, said Fernando Elizalde, principal research analyst at Gartner. Governments in countries that lag behind in the deployment of ultra broadband will come under increasing pressure to use public funds to upgrade broadband infrastructure to avoid falling behind. Elizalde explained that the need to acquire new customers and retain existing ones will see providers using headline speeds to help differentiate their services from the competition. From a consumer perspective the growing use of high bandwidth applications such as downloading or live streaming of movies and television, as well as the distribution of user-generated content through email, social networking sites and video-sharing sites, will be a key driver, according to the report. The demand for high-speed broadband is not limited to the entertainment sector, however. The report noted that e-government initiatives such as telemedicine and teaching, and business cases such as hosted services and telepresence, will all involve high levels of bandwidth use. Elizalde also highlighted several barriers that may hinder adoption. From a financial standpoint, many people may shun super-fast connections if they are too expensive and fail to offer sufficient value. The huge infrastructure investment required to roll out this level of service to the majority of the population, meanwhile, poses a financial and logistical challenge as it will often require large amounts of rewiring right up to the building. This is particularly daunting given the steady development of alternative mobile broadband technologies, such as Long Term Evolution. Despite these challenges, ultra broadband will happen and application developers should use the opportunity offered by the early adopter markets of Japan and South Korea to carry out live testing of new applications and innovations before it becomes mainstream globally, concluded Elizalde. Operators must position faster broadband speeds as a premium service to avoid commoditisation of ultra broadband, and strike a balance between their need to charge more for faster broadband and consumer willingness to pay for the extra speed. Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. iBUb3duIENlbnRyZSBCbHZkLiBNYXJraGFtLCBPTiBM M1IgMEU4IENBTkFEQQ0KbzogKzEgOTA1Ljk0OC4yMjk5ICAgICBmOiArMSA2NDcuNzIzLjA0NTEg ICAgIG06ICsxIDQxNi41MDguMTI1MgkNClNreXBlOsKgwqAga3N1aXRvcg0KZS1tYWlsOsKgwqAg a3N1aXRvckByZWRsaW5lY29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMuY29tDQpXZWI6ICAgICB3d3cucmVkbGluZWNv bW11bmljYXRpb25zLmNvbQ0KDQpBZHZhbmNpbmcgQnJvYWRiYW5kIFdpcmVsZXNzIC0gUHV0dGlu ZyBXaU1BWCBpbiBNb3Rpb24NCu+BkMKgIFRoaW5rIGdyZWVuIGJlZm9yZSBwcmludGluZyB0aGlz IGVtYWlsDQoNCg= WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
[WISPA] BIP / BTOP Applications are online
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/search.cfm [cid:image001.jpg@01CA3173.C2138660] Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.commailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.comhttp://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion P Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. inline: image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed
Redline AN-80i -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:42 AM To: 'Joe Miller'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Canopy :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed No I haven't...Any other suggestions on another type of radio that will do 5.3 Ghz PTMP? - Original Message From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed 2009/8/26 Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com: Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. Have you read the release notes for the EZ products? Sounds pretty half baked at this time. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ttp://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
Wireless DSL is the term we use in our sessions around the world -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Those customers on 900 are typically 1mbps or less. If they're out in the middle of nowhere, what's better - dial-up out that way or that meesly 1 mbps? I really wish we had a new term for broadband or high speed Internet access. Think about it - DSL, cable, WISPs, Satellite, HSPA/etc aircards. They're all broadband, but is the experience similar? DSL - minimal bandwidth maximum throughput, but no real problems Cable - some cities are 50 mbps, other places are 2 mbps. Around here cable is useless during the vacation times with mere 2 or 4 mbps connections! (kids get off school and AIM down the OC3). Perhaps all areas aren't oversubscribed to the masses, but it certainly is here. I can't imagine what happens when the 50 meg kids start torrenting during vacations - two of them fills an entire OC3!!! WISPs - you get what you pay for, perhaps more? I would rather have 512kbps and get 512kbps on low latency (better for TCP/IP) then have a 2 mbps circuit Satellite - Really? High-speed? I choose dial-up over this. How many WISPs here have had a customer go from Hughesnet or Wildblue to your service and gone wee doggy that there innernet is fast (or comparable). I had two instances just last Friday. HSPA - I have it on my laptop. It's $60/mo. Works when I'm in a city, which is nice if I'm vacationing across town or in a park near a city (PowerCode salesguy had it, worked well in an Indianapolis hotel). Out in the boonies where my customers are? If it does work, it is ridiculously slow - and I'm using SSH and mstsc for comparison. Web is useless out in the boonies. Note - I find it very surprising that Wildblue didn't want their satellite back. I thought all satellite companies would want their gear due to the cost. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Ya... me too... I offer up to 100Mbps download by 1500Mbps upload. :) Gotta love up to services. Next time you are in Walmart buying milk, see if you can buy up to a gallon. ;) Travis Microserv Jason Hensley wrote: I do - up to 10meg for residential where I got 5Ghz LOS. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps They are also, not saying we can't deliver more than 1 Mbps, just that the speed is around 1 Mbps. How many WISPs provide residential service at speeds greater than 1 Mb? Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=ts http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/64096486706?ref=tsor follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess http://twitter.com/dcaccess /* Nathan Stooke wrote: Hello, Right, but the problem is most WISPs do not fill out the Form 477 so what data do they have to go off. I have heard there are over 3,000 to 4,000 WISPs in the US, but only 400ish filled it out in 2008. That is what the FCC engineer said when I was speaking at the FCC. We cannot go to the FCC crying we need more spectrum or more power because we provide XX millions of customers service, if the form they REQUIRE us to fill out says we only have hundreds of thousands of customers. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it would appear that we may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. Interesting... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54
[WISPA] ITEXPO West 2009
Who is planning on attending this conference/exhibition in two weeks. I have been asked to present on two topics: a) Use of WiMAX within the SmartGrid for Energy companies, this leverages off the work we have been doing with several US coops and with several of the major electric utilities in Canada such as Hydro One b) Stimulating rural WiMAX discussing why WiMAX enables effective service offers I will be at the conference all three days and would be pleased to get together with any WISPA members that are attending to discuss face to face some of the new products that will be launched at 4G World in Chicago. Cheers! Kevin [cid:image001.jpg@01CA2269.6DAF0EA0] Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.commailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.comhttp://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion P Think green before printing this email IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. inline: image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Metered Wideband
are telling us that we need to have channel-bonded upstream available, Draper says, noting that consumption requirements (upstream and downstream) on the Rogers cable network are growing 4 percent each month. 'N' gateway standard with Docsis 3.0 Rather than starting off with standalone wideband modems, Rogers is kicking off its deployment by standardizing on a cable modem gateway from SMC Networks Inc.http://www.lightreading.com/complink_redirect.asp?vl_id=5060 that bakes in 802.11n. The key reason: The overwhelming number of customers we talk to about these [Docsis 3.0] service levels say having WiFi enabled is an absolute must. However, Rogers eventually may richen the mix of CPE for its wideband products, Draper adds. Cisco Systems Inc.http://www.lightreading.com/complink_redirect.asp?vl_id=1131 (Nasdaq: CSCOhttp://www.lightreading.com/quote.asp?Account=lightreadingPage=QUOTETicker=CSCO) is Rogers's exclusive cable modem termination system (CMTS) supplier. - Jeff Baumgartner, Site Editor, Cable Digital Newshttp://www.cabledigitalnews.com [cid:image001.jpg@01CA20C3.706FFF20] Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.commailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.comhttp://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion P Think green before printing this email inline: image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA
Tom, The 10 points can be earned with a 3.65 GHz WiMAX product like the RedMAX 100UX and SU-O combination. You would be able to offer a service that was say 8 Mbps down / 2 Mbps up inside a 7 MHz channel easily. Obviously, the RedACCESS AN-80i PMP with 20 MHz channels would allow you to offer even higher rate services: say 24 Mbps down, 12 Mbps up and clearly offer 'true' broadband. Best regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA Yeah, good point, and disappointing. But the problem with having comparative requirments for price and speed is that providers do not just have ONE offering. For example, If someone offered 2 plans: 20mbps for $1000/mon and 1mbps for $19/mon, they could claim that they should get points for... 1) offering super low pricing, and 2) super high speeds. Are the rules written to really require that the super high speeds are sold at the super low prices? Or how many subs they can serve with either of the plans? And does it lock the party into it, after the grant term? And is up+down meaning the in agreegate capacity combination adding Up to Down , so a 10mbps HDX service qualifies for 10mbps? And does it specificy over-the-air raw versus real-throughput speed? A 802.11b radio can actually be called a 11mbps service, right? What the grant does is that it incourages deceptive and intentionally misleading marketing, even though it would still be true. I think it may force WISPs to offer two product lines. The BTOP special might be an oversubscribed 10mbps plan, with small print that the rate speciafies over-the-air, and then you have another plan, that more realistic represents real throughput speeds. Anyways WISPs will miss getting the full 20 points, but they aught to be able to get the 10 points for selling 10mbps. Will an applicant lose points for offering both 10mbps and 3 mbps plans? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA Tom, Your application score goes up considerably if you offer higher speeds then the minimum though. 20mb up+down + 10 points. 10mb up+down + 10 points. Regards Michael Baird We've been talking about on Member's list. The worst thing I saw about it was 3G cellular service appears to disqualify an area from being eligible for funding, based on definition of underserved. An area is eligible for underserved if it does not have a provider offering over 3mbps down stream. However, without conditions for upload, or mandating average, or considering wired only, 3G kills us because 3G is spec'd at 3.1 peak download. WISPA lobbied for 2mb upload and speeds based on average. We didn't get that. :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA With more strings than an orchestra! -RickG On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyblechar...@thewybles.com wrote: http://is.gd/1ktef WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?
Blackberry Flip or Bold using UMA service (if enabled by operator). -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi? Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] As seen on Twitter
At the WCA Wireless Policy Conference last week Amy Levine Legislative Counsel for the House Telecom Committee from Congressman Rick Boucher's office indicated that there will be a push to use the roughly $7.2B in unspent USF funds to fund BB service delivery in rural America -- the committee seems to be pushing hard for making broadband network build outs eligible for USF support. Others at the conference made statements such as need to fix problems in USF ... support infrastructure versus services ... get a triple play capable network built (sorry about the sketchy notes) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cliff Olle Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] As seen on Twitter Isn't the federal usf already 11.2 percent? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] As seen on Twitter So he is suggesting that existing broadband consumers foot the $7billion bill via USF broadband taxes? I'd like to see what that fee calculates to. I bet the USF tax will be higher than the cost of broadband service. Clearly not in line with reducing costs of broadband for consumers. Does anyone know how much revenue USF brings in today? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] As seen on Twitter Recently I saw these comments made on Twitter and I was wondering if anyone could track down some quotable sources for these. Rep Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) says that historically a $1 investment in broadband yields a $10 return. So a $7.2B investment... NTIA's Larry Irving wants to see USF funds provide $7B ANNUALLY for broadband. Says that the current $7.2 is a down payment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Clearwire Uses Gov't Grants for Rural WiMAX
Clearwire Uses Gov't Grants for Rural WiMAX http://telecompetitor.com/node/1221 29 Apr, 2009 The city of Milledgeville, Georgia http://www.google.com/url?sa=tsource=webct=rescd=1url=http%3A%2F%2F maps.google.com%2Fmaps%3Foe%3Dutf-8%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoffici al%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26q%3DMilledgeville%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF-8%26spli t%3D0%26gl%3Dus%26ei%3DQWP4SeCdItPJtgfC4Z3tDw%26sa%3DX%26oi%3Dgeocode_re sult%26ct%3Dtitle%26resnum%3D1ei=QWP4SeCdItPJtgfC4Z3tDwusg=AFQjCNFnvgS BPldPji_X7Co7Rajd1tcUKwsig2=8I4dErW8NBLjy8sswh7z-Q may be a revealing case study of how broadband stimulus http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/630 grants may impact rural WiMAX, and may also hint at Clearwire's potential broadband stimulus grant strategy. Milledgeville is a city of approximately 12,000 (not counting college students) and is located about 50 miles northeast of Macon, Georgia. Clearwire http://www.clearwire.com is taking advantage of an $862,000 state grant to deploy their WiMAX service in Milledgeville, with a projected launch date of October 2009. Milledgeville city planner Russell Thompson tells macon.com http://www.macon.com/198/story/698547.html that Basically, [Clearwire] wouldn't be doing business in Milledgeville unless there were incentives because the population is just not that large. Read More ... http://telecompetitor.com/node/1221 Considering that the sheer number of cities and towns across the U.S. that resemble Milledgeville numbers in the thousands and the pending billions of stimulus grant funds that are soon to be available, one could certainly draw a bullish conclusion about the prospects of rural WiMAX. Of course wireline telco and cable operators will argue that only FTTH and HFC networks make sense for a prudent long term broadband strategy. But if recent events, including the partnership of NRTC and DigitalBridge Communications http://telecompetitor.com/node/1220 , and historical funding of broadband wireless projects by the Rural Utilities Service http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm are any indication, WiMAX may indeed have a significant rural presence when it's all said and done. Will Clearwire play a bigger role in this potential scenario? They've been somewhat quiet about their broadband stimulus intentions and they're quite busy executing their metro market strategy. But they heavily reference the Milledgeville case in their public comments for the broadband stimulus program http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/comments/7321.pdf , stating the Milledgeville project shows that communities that are plagued by low-income, high unemployment and geographic isolation are likely to reap significant benefits when access to next generation mobile broadband is coupled with a plan to enhance public safety, education and job training/creation opportunities. Almost music to regulator's ears. Since Milledgeville currently has broadband from dual providers, namely Charter and Windstream, Clearwire is also inserting it into the 'unserved/underserved' debate http://telecompetitor.com/node/1104 . Wireless providers argue that the absence of broadband wireless should qualify projects for broadband grant funding, regardless of what wireline broadband options are available. Fixed and mobile broadband are two separate services serving different constituents targeted by the grant programs. Because mobile wireless broadband offers important capabilities that fixed services lack - such as the ability to provide Milledgeville's police officers with real time access to crime databases while on patrol and the ability for university students to access educational resources wherever they are - NTIA should separately assess whether an area or population is 'unserved' or 'underserved' with regard to the availability of both fixed wireline/wireless and mobile wireless. Similarly, RUS should consider an area without mobile broadband access as lacking sufficient 'high speed broadband service to facilitate rural economic development,' says Clearwire in their comments. After reviewing this, you get a sense of the gravity of what's at stake. Should the broadband stimulus rules favor Clearwire's position, it may well create a firestorm of activity with WiMAX and other wireless technologies. The extent of Clearwire's involvement in that potential firestorm remains to be seen. Regardless, they'll be plenty of others looking to replicate what's going on in Milledgeville. What do you think? Share your view by using the comments tool below. tag : 4G http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/83 broadband stimulus http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/630 Clearwire http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/116 rural http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/155 WiMAX http://telecompetitor.com/taxonomy/term/81 Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451
Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors
There are different constraints. In 5 GHz PTP mode we can easily deal with 20 mile+ links due to EiRP limits, but in PMP typically we see most clients within 1 - 2 km of the sector. In 3.65 GHz PMP applications we have EiRP limitations and more importantly typical deployment limitations due to OLOS and NLOS between the base station and typically, outdoor CPE. Fundamentally in PMP applications, you are trading off coverage for capacity since you want the highest possible sector capacity (typically 15 - 18 Mbps net per sector) in order to maximize your revenue opportunity. Since WiMAX uses a TDMA MAC, a QPSK modulated end customer takes 27x the sector resource of a 64QAM customer. Typically, the goal is to maximize your sector throughput and customer count per sector to maximize your ROI. That being said, if you want a PTP application a product like the MAX+ AN-80i will deliver similar reach to 5 GHz with sub 1 ms latency. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors I can do almost 20 km with 5 GHz, why can't I with 3650? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Thanks for the compliment Daniel, but please God, let's not have anyone thinking they can build a 30 km radius cell with our stuff or anyone's stuff in WiMAX. I don't care if you can see your dog running away for three days it is so flat and the sun always shines and the wind is always at your back -- I know of no PMP situation where such a cell should ever be built. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile Thanks Patrick. It took me a long time to get past the original snake oil mentality of WiMax proponents when they were claiming 70 megabits out 70 miles. I went through a phase of being dead set against WiMax because I thought the culture lacked integrity over all the false hype. Then I began reading the real story of what made 802.16 technology tick. The more I read the more I decided that it really is a sound technology. I eventually bought a system from Redline and have been quite happy with the results. It is nice to be able to go into my higher end business customers and tell them I can deliver more for their money through the air than cable and DSL can bring to the table. That is TRUE. The service flows capability alone make WiMax worth the extra bucks. Now fast forward to this thread. I have seen my WiMax vendor of choice bashed by another vendor rep. I have seen the same person claiming 20 to 30km sized cells in 3650 which is not a reasonable expectation. It makes me sick to my stomach. We should expect that people will act with respect and integrity on industry list servers. Let's straighten up folks. Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?
5.2 is allowed for outdoor - the Redline AN-80i is certified for this band. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? And 5.2 is not allowed for outdoor usage. So Franks unit is an indoor unit I would suspect he is suffering from multipath reflections. Besides on the radar stuff.. The way DFS is designed in MT it will never be able to get certified. First of it must continuously look for and detect radar not just when it first enable the interface. Secondly it at least did a horrible job in actually detecting radar signatures. Besides 5.2 is not part of the band you can use even with a certified radar detecting device. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? Part of the 5.2 band. All of the radar patters are in MT, just not certified. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Gino Villarini wrote: 5180.hmmm!!! Not to bust anyones head but you are using an uncertified device on an illegal channel Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Gino - Top right corner. Did the CPU just jump or has it casually been like that? I've never had 5 radios in any board, I don't know if that would cause a lot of usage or not. Most any MT box I've seen is 5% CPU. A lot of NAT as was mentioned would be the first place I'd look. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: Is this doing any NAT? Is connection tracking enabled? Do you have all unneeded packages disabled? We have a few RB600's out there and they do fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of them have the 564 daughterboard in them. -Kevin Neal -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded? I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage on it is around 40-50%. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz
John, a) Primary status assigned for fixed links for both access and backhaul b) Increase of power to Part-15 levels Further changes expected based upon the request for comments: a) coordination rules b) raster / frequency plan allowed Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz How is this different than what we already had in 4.9 GHz? Thank you, John Scrivner PS. I would watch the presentation if you can forward me a link. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com wrote: All, Thought this might be of interest since there have been many threads on this in the past months. By the way, Redline offers Part-90 approved AN-80i solutions for this band. If you missed it, we ran a public webinar yesterday on public safety applications. Hit me off-list and I will point you to the archive of the webinar. Best Regards, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion P Think green before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz
Yes for 4.9 GHz for Public Safety, it means we are now free to change the keying to match the new regulations. It won't affect the 5.2 GHz UNNI power rules with DFSII. Hope this helps. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz Kevin, does this mean we could see increased power in some of our 4.9-5.2 Redline backhauls in the future? On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com wrote: John, a) Primary status assigned for fixed links for both access and backhaul b) Increase of power to Part-15 levels Further changes expected based upon the request for comments: a) coordination rules b) raster / frequency plan allowed Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz How is this different than what we already had in 4.9 GHz? Thank you, John Scrivner PS. I would watch the presentation if you can forward me a link. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com wrote: All, Thought this might be of interest since there have been many threads on this in the past months. By the way, Redline offers Part-90 approved AN-80i solutions for this band. If you missed it, we ran a public webinar yesterday on public safety applications. Hit me off-list and I will point you to the archive of the webinar. Best Regards, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion P Think green before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Full Duplex
The Redline AN-80i is available in 4.9 GHz with a variety of channel sizes, is FCC approved for the band and PoE powered; why the requirement for full duplex? Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 4.9 Full Duplex Does anyone know of a 4.9 Radio that is PoE and Full Duplex? - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
We have customers worldwide who operate sectors typically with hundreds of residential clients with 2 Mbps downlink / 256 or 512 kbps uplink and some with who run entry level service (by NA standards) of 384 kbps downlink / 128 kbps uplink that have an average of 250 clients per sector with 6 sectors per BTS in an urban market. The WiMAX MAC is much more sophisticated than other MACs used in wireless networking. Best Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a WiMAX AP anyway... not enough bandwidth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base station, that only supports 30 subscribers. - Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? I'm certainly interested in ptmp. The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it? marlon - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Ligowave its ptp in 3.65... Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to the UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today. Take care leon Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'm looking into this too. So far I can't find a solution for rural towers. A 3 sector install at $20k? Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see that tower Anyone have any better ideas? marlon - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Fellow operators: Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP? Any updates on experiences with: Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek, Airspan ??? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ?
kbps Down kbps Up Total kbps Oversubscription kbps Required/Sub 16000 loaded sector loaded sector loaded sector (months) $17.95 Essential 500 500 100020 50 320 $5,744.00 $ 68,928.00 $ 156,750 27.28935 $27.95 Essential+ 2000800 280020 140 114 $3,194.29 $ 38,331.43 $ 64,179 20.09168 $37.95 Performance 70001000800020 400 40 $1,518.00 $ 18,216.00 $ 30,750 20.25692 $42.95 MAX10 1 100011000 20 550 29 $1,249.45 $ 14,993.45 $ 25,841 20.68175 $72.95 MAX16 16000 100017000 20 850 19 $1,373.18 $ 16,478.12 $ 21,221 15.45365 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? 2 megs is yesterday's news. U-Verse is 18/1.5 FiOS is 50/20 Charter has 60/5 Comcast has 50/10 2 megs is 36 times faster than 56k. Charter is 30 times faster than that. Why is the wireless world happy with being 10 years behind the wired world? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? We have customers worldwide who operate sectors typically with hundreds of residential clients with 2 Mbps downlink / 256 or 512 kbps uplink and some with who run entry level service (by NA standards) of 384 kbps downlink / 128 kbps uplink that have an average of 250 clients per sector with 6 sectors per BTS in an urban market. The WiMAX MAC is much more sophisticated than other MACs used in wireless networking. Best Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a WiMAX AP anyway... not enough bandwidth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Booher jefftho...@fastmail.fm Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base station, that only supports 30 subscribers. - Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? I'm certainly interested in ptmp. The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it? marlon - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Ligowave its ptp in 3.65... Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to the UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today. Take care leon Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'm looking into this too. So far I can't find a solution for rural towers. A 3 sector install at $20k? Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even see that tower Anyone have any better ideas? marlon - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? Fellow operators: Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP? Any updates on experiences with: Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek, Airspan ??? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
$6,352,381,264 between 2001 and May 2008 (see attached from UDSA RUS web site) http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every state. So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? How much money was put into RUS funds previously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100 / Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BIBA_asof_5-9-08.pdf Description: BIBA_asof_5-9-08.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NTIA Meetings on Economic Stimulus Package
Folks, Thought you would all like heads up on the attached. The attached notice is scheduled to be published by NTIA in the Federal Register tomorrow, alerting those interested in the ARRA grant program that they can commence scheduling meetings with NTIA staff to be held starting on March 2, 2009. Best Regards, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA Cell: +1 416.508.1252 Phone: +1 905.948.2299 Skype: ksuitor Fax: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion image001.jpg NTIA Economic Stimulus Meeting Notice.pdf Description: NTIA Economic Stimulus Meeting Notice.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector
Mti wireless edge or European antennas both have good quality sectors; mti has a cosecant squared version that proves superior coverage in our testing From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector I was :) Travis Mike Hammett wrote: I thought you were talking antenna, not radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net mailto:t...@ida.net Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:43 PM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com mailto:isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com ; Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org mailto:motor...@wispa.org ; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector Hi, Any suggestions for a 3.65ghz sector? Need 60-90 degrees and something affordable. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Harmful Interference
Folks: I saw this blog posting during some research I was conducting and I know the topic comes up on this list fairly regularly. There is some useful data on the concepts surrounding harmful interference and how the FCC views each of the parties in a dispute and in granting rights to spectrum. http://www.commlawblog.com/2009/01/articles/broadcast/finding-the-harm-i n-harmful-interference/ Best Regards, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA Cell: +1 416.508.1252 Phone: +1 905.948.2299 Skype: ksuitor Fax: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?
How about 4x4 MIMO 265QAM radios with S-OFDMA and 40 MHz TDD channels in 5 GHz bands? High bandwidth reasonable reach (say 4 miles at full rate LOS) and NLOS/OLOS capability (in fact you need OLOS/NLOS to get the decoupling of signals for MIMO spatial muxing to provide the non-coherent channels). It will be expensive to start but as DSP and radio costs continue to drop affordable (keeping in mind the CAPEX cost to pull fibre in many areas) in 2 - 3 years. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP? I remember Ken (last name?) always brought this up a few years back. Didnt he go work for a company to do just that? -RickG On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Today i have been pondering the idea to provide a wireless alternative to FTTH... At least a short range (up to 1 mile) 100 - 500 mbps wireless PTMP system to the home to provide triple play services. With todays current products, I ll say it cant be done... but is there an alterenative? Couple of ideas came in to my mind ... Rebirth of LMDS? AFAIK LMDS has not had great success on the states, spectrum was bidded, some gear was tested... no big networks were built ...but all this was almost 10 years ago, with today technology could a cost effective platform be developed to provide GIgabit PTMP on LMDS? MIMO Radio + 256qam + big spectrum means big bandwidth PTMP 24 ghz? Could a PTMP UL 24 ghz be developed? upconvert and bond multiple 802.11n based links with a polling mac? Anyone would like to add something? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] 3.65ghz sector
Redline's AN-100U or AN-100UX. Talk to your Redline Certified partner about a starter kit. If you haven't deployed a RedMAX system previously you qualify for special incentives for a base station, CPE, Element Management System and Training package. Several of the WISPs here on the list have taken advantage of this offer. Best Regards, Kevin - Kevin F. R. Suitor VP, Marketing and Business Development Redline Communications * Redline Communications Inc., 302 Town Centre Blvd. Suite 100, Markham, Ontario, Canada, L3R 0E8 * Office DID : +1 905.948-2299 * Cell: +1 416.508.1252 * SKYPE: ksuitor Private E-FAX: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail ksui...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Travis Johnson Sent: Thu 2/5/2009 11:43 PM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com; Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [Motorola II] 3.65ghz sector Hi, Any suggestions for a 3.65ghz sector? Need 60-90 degrees and something affordable. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH
The MAX+ 3.5 with FCC approval is now available. We have been shipping this product worldwide since 4Q 2008. Please check with your Redline Certified Partner for up to date information. I am checking on why the brochure on the web site is still marked preliminary. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH These are not officially available yet. Hence the lack of information. I have a pair at our office for testing if anyone wants to swing by. Unfortunately, I can't share any results at this point. -Matt On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:12 AM, 3-dB Networks wrote: Does anyone have the spec sheet? I see one on their website but its marked preliminary. hoping they had something a bit more complete. Maybe someone can help answer a few questions for me: What is the max throughput roughly per channel size? What type of range are these things getting? Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] White Spaces Device Demand
Patrick, Thank you very much for your inputs. We should be able to hit your pricing targets on CPE; Access points will be higher in the $2500 - $3000 range. Cheers! Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] White Spaces Device Demand Responses inline. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Kevin Suitor wrote: Folks, Just would like to run an informal poll to determine the market for Fixed White Spaces devices over the next 2 - 3 years. If you could reply (offlist preferred) to this request I'd like to pass the demand over to our product line managers who set product development priority. 512 - 698 MHz White Spaces Demand Expected Street Price On par with Canopy 900 MHz or Alvarion 900 MHz, assuming non-802.11 based architecture. Upper Bound 2009 2010 2011 PTP Links Probably unnecessary Access Points $1500 CPE $300 Thanks, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development Cell: +1 416.508.1252 Phone: +1 905.948.2299 Skype: ksuitor Fax: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Leading the WiMAX Revolution with RedMAX(tm) Advanced Broadband Wireless Solutions See Redline at the following events: WiMAX Forum Congress Latin America 2008 http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001B9yZFzm6BqlMrJ1Vy3lrwoT7LGK8M4NYXaP0UgkeTfvI aA9Pop9_LNknIzwkIJryK-eDv2Dd-EsSDnPLq2Rg99PXry8ik586UMDqW6PhMojMoGqCyj6w -JQKXAtl63BqYu8ouSCT178= December 3 - 4, 2008 The Windsor Barra Hotel Rio De Janeiro, Brazil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TVBD height requirement
My read is that any 'portable or nomadic' device would be 100 or 40 mW EiRP and therefore not very useable for user self install unless a client was close to the AP. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Valenti Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TVBD height requirement Mike, On page 5 in section 8 (Fixed devices), it says fixed devices will be required to operate with antennas mounted outdoors ... I suppose you could run coax from a TVBD inside, but it seems like the current method of POE to an outdoor device is preferred? So we are still looking at professional installation, outdoors? John On Nov 19, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: There previously was some discussion about a 10 meter antenna height requirement in the TVWS. I'm only on page 43 of the report, but on this page it states that the FCC doesn't see a need for either a height or an outdoor requirement, only a 40 cm distance away from people. This is to comply with the most restrictive MPE distance required by the frequencies in use. TVWS = TeleVision White Spaces TVBD = TeleVision Band Device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] White Spaces Device Demand
Folks, Just would like to run an informal poll to determine the market for Fixed White Spaces devices over the next 2 - 3 years. If you could reply (offlist preferred) to this request I'd like to pass the demand over to our product line managers who set product development priority. 512 - 698 MHz White Spaces Demand Expected Street Price Upper Bound 2009 2010 2011 PTP Links Access Points CPE Thanks, Kevin Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Marketing Business Development Cell: +1 416.508.1252 Phone: +1 905.948.2299 Skype: ksuitor Fax: +1 647.723.0451 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA www.redlinecommunications.com http://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Leading the WiMAX Revolution with RedMAX(tm) Advanced Broadband Wireless Solutions See Redline at the following events: WiMAX Forum Congress Latin America 2008 http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001B9yZFzm6BqlMrJ1Vy3lrwoT7LGK8M4NYXaP0UgkeTfvI aA9Pop9_LNknIzwkIJryK-eDv2Dd-EsSDnPLq2Rg99PXry8ik586UMDqW6PhMojMoGqCyj6w -JQKXAtl63BqYu8ouSCT178= December 3 - 4, 2008 The Windsor Barra Hotel Rio De Janeiro, Brazil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
