Re: [WISPA] More WiFi from the cable company
ATT U-verse Wayport is doing a deal with San Francisco to provide free WiFi down the main boulevard Market St. It does not require subscription to ATT. Any guess on their reasoning? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: This is what I've been working on the past 6 months or so. Ruckus put together a nice unit for cable company's. See attached. Zach Mann 9137107220 On Thursday, April 25, 2013, wrote: ** Time Warner Cable (NYSE: TWChttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=55ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0) said late Wednesday that it is beginning to build a WiFi network in Austin, Texas – a move that could help it compete next year with new market entrant Google Fiber (Nasdaq: GOOGhttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=193ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0 ). In addition to offering cable modem customers free Wi-Fi, Time Warner Cable said it'll offer prepaid access to non-subscribers for $2.95 per hour, the same price it charges customers on a WiFi network it built last summer in Charlotte, N.C. The company is marketing its WiFi service in Austin with the TWC WiFi brand. Sunnyvale, Calif.-based Ruckus Wireless is supplying Time Warner Cable with gear for the WiFi rollout in Austin, spokesman Bobby Amirshahi told *FierceCable*. Time Warner said it has already built a limited number of hotspots in popular locations in the city, and that it would turn on hundreds more this year. The move comes about two weeks after Google announced that it will launch Google Fiber in Austin by the middle of 2014. Google will offer download speeds of up to 1 gigabit per second. In addition, it will offer a subscription video service that comes with a DVR containing eight tuners, 2 terabytes of storage and a Nexus 7 tablet that is used as a remote control. Time Warner Cable, Comcast (Nasdaq: CMCSAhttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=177ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0), Cablevision (NYSE: CVChttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=179ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0) and other MSOs have used WiFi deployments partly as a subscriber retention tool. While cable operators offer free WiFi access to existing broadband customers, Google Fiber plans to offer a free 5 Mbps service to any resident in Austin and other cities as long as they pay an installation fee. Austin is the fourth market where Time Warner Cable has built WiFi hotspots. In September 2011, the MSO announced that it would spend $15 million on a WiFi network in Southern California. Canadian WiFi vendor BelAir Networks, which was acquired last year by Ericsson (Nasdaq: ERIChttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=212ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0), supplied it with WiFi access points in California. Last summer, Time Warner Cable announced that it would spend $2 million to build a WiFi network in Charlotte, ahead of the Democratic National Convention. Ruckus Wireless built the Charlotte WiFi network. Time Warner Cable also has a WiFi roaming deal with Comcast, Cablevision Bright House Networks and Cox Communications that lets cable modem subscribers access about 100,000 WiFi hotspots that use the CableWiFi network ID. COO Rob Marcus told analysts in January that Time Warner would double its investments this year in WiFi, and that it would concentrate much of the WiFi rollout in New York, where it competes with Verizon (NYSE: VZhttp://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=114ms=NDg5NzkxNAS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0mt=2rj=MTUwNzUwNjU5S0rt=0) and RCN. The MSO is scheduled to report first quarter earnings Thursday morning. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Check out my photos on Facebook
Hi wireless@wispa.org, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Kimo To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=766425653k=Z4F663R3TZWGUCBEQEZ3XWRr wireless@wispa.org was invited to join Facebook by Kimo Crossman. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=accb8au=1650750933mid=f2a292G626475d5G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SF WiFi: Mayor looses 1st Full vote on EarthLink Google WiFi initiative, Supervisor Daly asks for $10M for a City owned WiFi solution
Tuesday at the Full Board meeting, after an impassioned speech by Supervisor McGoldrick and Daly requesting a simple continuance on their cosponsored (also Ammiano and Mirkarimi) legislation which asks for serious consideration of Nonprofit or Municipally owned WiFi solutions by the IT Department, the Board of Supervisors (in a vote that is seen as an indication of how the board will vote on the EarthLink WiFi contract) approved on a 6-5 count McGoldrick's request to continue the resolution to March 20th. During the debate, Supervisor Daly, Chair of the Budget and Finance committee, asked the Budget Analyst to prepare a $10M budget supplemental for a City WiFi solution. The EarthLink Google camp in conjunction with DTIS (IT Department) pushed to have the vote today in hopes of shutting considerations down the Municipal/Nonprofits options. Significant backing for alternatives was provided by the independent Budget Analyst's Fiscal Feasibility of Municipal WiFi report which had raised many concerns about the consideration of all options, quality of the digital inclusion coverage of the EarthLink solution, privacy, conflicts of interest, parity of deal compared with what other cities are receiving and the potential for a 17-year defacto Franchise with little Board of Supervisor's governance. With Community Choice Aggregation (Public Power) in the air, the recently released draft municipal fiber study and the continued bad feelings over the extension of the Comcast Franchise, voices concerned about ongoing privatization of city functions and assets have been given a loudspeaker. McGoldrick announced plans to draft additional legislation on this matter and there will be hearings on the basket of Budget supplementals in Daly's Budget and Finance committee. Lastly, the independent Budget Analyst will be preparing a detailed analysis of the EarthLink contract on it's merits before consideration by the full board. Independent Budget Analyst's study for Feasibility of Municipal WiFi - and preliminary analysis of the EarthLink contract (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/2v7bf6 Draft Fiber study (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/yu5wjh EarthLink Contract with San Francisco (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/yosuab Windows Streaming Video of BOS meeting (will be posted by end of day Wednesday), click on item 9: http://tinyurl.com/yru77x Speech excerpts and more details will be sent out Wednesday. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SF WiFi: ACLU slams final San Francisco Wi-Fi contract
http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070207/tc_infoworld/85861_1 http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070207/tc_infoworld/85861_1printer=1;_ylt=Aj3QLoC00glBVFby1b7r8Li73MMF printer=1;_ylt=Aj3QLoC00glBVFby1b7r8Li73MMF http://news.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AhJ0IV.o3tORzgSzCaGFN5e73MMF Yahoo! News http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/nws/p/iw_logo_160x30.gif ACLU slams final San Francisco Wi-Fi contract Stephen Lawson Wed Feb 7, 5:52 PM ET The ACLU has turned up the political heat on EarthLink and Google's plan for Wi-Fi in San Francisco, telling the city's Board of Supervisors that the proposed contract doesn't have enough privacy or free speech protections. The ACLU of Northern California said in a letter to the supervisors on Tuesday that both EarthLink's paid service and Google's free offering would fall short of most of the group's recommendations on collection and sharing of personal data and possible tracking of users. Among other things, there are no limits on what kind of information EarthLink can or will collect, and terms for the Google service call for requiring minimal information on login without defining minimal, the letter said. In addition to privacy concerns, the group is worried that knowing information is being collected will cause users to limit what they say and do on the Internet. The city and EarthLink agreed on a contract last month, and EarthLink is confident the closely watched project will get off the ground with deployment of a proof-of-concept network starting in April, said company spokesman Jerry Grasso. But the proposal has been under fire since before the contract was completed, and some members of the board have said a municipally owned system would be better for the city. EarthLink negotiated the deal with the city and would build and operate the network, bringing Google in as a tenant providing the free, slower service. Some critics have warned that San Francisco could be giving a virtual monopoly on citywide Wi-Fi to private companies without ensuring user privacy or complete coverage. The ACLU said a municipal Wi-Fi network should let users opt in or out of any service that collects data on what they look at or search for on the Internet, or their e-mail messages. There are no provisions for that in the paid or free service terms, it said. EarthLink can only save location information for 60 days, but there's no limit to how long it can store personal protected information and no limit to how long Google can store any information, the ACLU said. Users of the EarthLink service can opt out of receiving marketing materials, but EarthLink has free reign to share personal information with partner companies that help it deliver or promote the service. Both service providers can hand over users' personal information for law enforcement or national security reasons without a warrant or notification of the user, though they would require court-ordered documentation before doing so. If information is sought for a civil suit, EarthLink or Google would have to tell the user first. EarthLink's Grasso declined to comment on the ACLU's letter, saying EarthLink has not seen it. Google and city representatives could not immediately be reached for comment. ma_nws_1.gif Description: GIF image iw_logo_160x30.gif Description: GIF image -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SF WiFi: Google Earthlink contract Municipal Broadband Hearing Today: Wed 1/7 3pm PST GMT-8
Live Webcast SFGTV http://sfgov.org/site/sfgtv_index.asp?id=11463 ACLU is planning to present privacy concerns as well http://aclunc.org/issues/technology/bytes_and_pieces/asset_upload_file34_4522.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/3de8hh -Original Message- From: Cassandra Costello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 February 02 10:04 To: Cassandra Costello Subject: Municipal Broadband Hearing NEXT WEDNESDAY! HEARINGS ON MUNICIPAL Wi-Fi Google/Earthlink Project . Do you have questions about the Google/Earthlink Wi-Fi plan? . Are you concerned about coverage in your neighborhood? Will I get reception? . What about the extra costs of hardware or faster service? . How fast is the free service? Will I have consistent service? . Who do I call if there is a problem? . Is Digital Inclusion being addressed fully? . Is the City giving away too much control like they did with cable TV and electricity/natural gas? . Who is the Budget Analyst anyway and what does he do? . What kind of privacy can I expect from Google/Earthlink? . What alternatives are there? If these and other questions about the Google/Earthlink Wi-Fi project concern you, find out more and speak your mind at the first of a series of public hearings at City Hall. WHEN: Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 TIME: 3:00pm (approximate start time) WHERE: City Hall, Board Chamber, room 250, Budget and Finance Committee Attached is a resolution that Supervisor McGoldrick has sponsored and a link to a report done by the San Francisco Budget Analyst tilted Fiscal Feasibility Analysis of a Municipally-Owned Citywide Wireless Broadband Network. (See attached file: WiFi Resolution.doc) To view a copy of the Budget Analyst report, please visit: http://www.sfgov.org/site/budanalyst_page.asp?id=53280 -- Cassandra Costello Legislative Assistant Supervisor Jake McGoldrick San Francisco District 1 415-554-7412 Fax 415-554-7415 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SF Earthlink Study
Oddly enough, the SF deal includes no city services in the contract but says the city will consider EarthLink as a sole bid for future wireless services. Some wonder if this has all been arranged to allow the city to say now that they are currently putting no money into the deal and then to quickly put some money in after the deal is approved. As you say, almost all muni wifi deals have the government as the Anchor Tenant. -Original Message- From: Joe Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 17 00:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SF Earthlink Study IMO the only thing that will make earthlink really have a chance of being profitable in the wi-fi arena is if they are able to sell city government and/or business services. I think New Orleans is using the earthlink service for the city camera project but I am not sure if they are charging a fee for this or not. I could come up with some really neat ideas to sell service off of the earthlink network but the coverage just is not there IMO. They are offering a indoor CPE with a service commitment but in many cases a indoor CPE is not going to get clients a reliable connection. Testing from my van in some areas I get a great signal and then it just drops to nothing. I do see alot of tropos units with no ssid's and I am not sure whats up with that. Maybe thats for the cameras. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Kimo Crossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; 'Ralph' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: [WISPA] SF Earthlink Study (thank you for your insightful input Ralph) Message: 12 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:40:53 -0500 From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numbering my responses to Kimo's questions: 1. Right now, a handful of cities (I think they are the 3 Metro-Fi cities in Silicon Valley, plus Mtn View) are getting 1Mb. This is totally dependent of the depth of the pockets of Metro-Fi's backers and on the advertising revenues. Ever play with a puppy in a pet store? They are so cute, you just have to take it home. If the business model doesn't pay out i.e.: They don't get enough paying subscribers or they don't get the revenue from the ads, then you will see it change. Not saying that was Metricom's demise, but they had few users and any Metro network takes gobs of money to build out. I've seen it first hand... With this model and with the equipment that will be used in SF. It ain't free and it ain't cheap! (kimo) I agree with you- I think Metro-Fi's model still has yet to be proved a success. On the other hand ATT is doing Portland Oregon with them so there may be more developing on this. 2. So Seattle will have it in 10 years. By then, there will be something bigger and better. Will the SF residents have to wait 10 years too? Not something I'd be willing to do- especially when I was faced with a proposal from someone who will do it for free and assume all the risk. What has SF got to lose? (kimo) The EarthLink deal doesn't compare favorably with what other cities are getting - Why should SF settle? Sf already has more hotspots than any other city in the nation. It is not hard to find a free hotspot currently. SF shouldn't lock itself in to what is effectively a 16 year monopoly deal with tech that is already dated. 3. Milpitas, CA. No tall residential buildings (but some are under construction. A 24-30 ft high access point with the relatively low gain of the Tropos antennas will have a good amount of upward radiation. It isn't that much better of an antenna than a dipole would be. It certainly has little, if any, directional abilities. It may not go up into a 30 story hotel or apartment house, but how many residence in SF are in those? That can easily be the 5 or 10 % allowed not to be covered. Most of my friends in SF live in 2-4 story abodes. According to the web page, the CPE is given with a paid connection anyway, so there's no-one not getting one except for the people taking the freebie. Even if I chose to live in a place that required use of a CPE, it is no different than buying an XM receiver to listen to XM, or buying a transistor radio or boom box to listen to free radio. (kimo) Hmm ok, well there are more and more tall residential buildings in SF and isn't anything over 2 stories already above the 40 ft coverage that EarthLink is agreeing too? Are you suggesting (I hope it's true) that a CPE solves all indoor and above 40 ft issues? I thought it was of limited value? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Interested in learning
Hi I was hoping to learn from Marlon - not be slapped - if he isn't going to provide useful feedback maybe it is better he not jump into the discussion that he does not have time to dig into. Thanks Kimo -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:31:09 -0800 From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst reportreleased onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response First page, first paragraph. No I've not read the whole thing yet. I've got family and customers to take care of first. I'm also working on the next wisp fcc meetings. Working on getting a meeting with the broadband group at the ftc and talking to the fbi about calea (more on that in another email). I dig into the things I can't change when there's time between the things that I can. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over
Ok to Clarify, here is what EPIC says about MetroFi's Privacy policy: MetroFi proposes an advertising-supported service with a 1 Mbps connection, or the same connection without advertisements for $20 a month. As with many companies operating under self-regulatory privacy norms, MetroFi's privacy statement is contradictory. It claims only to gather anonymous information for the free service, but later on the same page, the company states that its free service collects email addresses and demographic information through surfing behavior and questionnaires. Email addresses are identifiable, personal information. Furthermore, aggregate surfing behavior and questionnaire information can be used to identify individuals. http://www.epic.org/privacy/internet/sfan4306.html Wondering if you had any other thoughts on the Analyst report? -Original Message- From: Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 15 15:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Where do they guarantee anon usage? I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa Clara and had to sign up to use it. No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users do bad things. If you were in this business, you would understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kimo Crossman Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:16 AM To: 'Marlon K. Schafer'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction, questions arise MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco! - Original Message - From: Kimo Crossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over See PDF http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiF iReport_011107.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/yhysne -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over
Yes EarthLink and Google are paying for it, but now as the city looks at the deal compared with what other cities are getting and their direction, questions arise MetroFi is giving 1mb speed free to all and anonymous usage is guaranteed Seattle has embraced Fiber first and only targeted wifi -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2007 January 14 20:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I thought that the deal was bought and paid for by EL not Frisco! - Original Message - From: Kimo Crossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over See PDF http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/Reports/WiFi/MunicipalWiFiReport_011107.pdf Or http://tinyurl.com/yhysne -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
