Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options
- Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:49:39 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options > 170 Mb FD Dragonwave... > > About $20K > > > Hi Matt, I agree with Bob here, the Dragonwave solution is your ticket to reliable service at the speeds you require. -Dee > > > Matt Liotta wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > We are now exceeding Orthogon's capacity on a regular basis. We are > > backhauling as much as we can with fiber, but that isn't an option in > > the suburbs. We have had good success with BridgeWave's products, but > > the distance is a problem. Any suggestions on a product that can do > > high throughput in the 5-10 mile range? I am looking for something > > that can easily exceed 100Mbps full duplex. I know the specs of the > > Orthogon Spectra and no it doesn't really get us past 100Mbps full > > duplex. > > > > 24Ghz unlicensed is looking like the sweet spot for us. > > > > -Matt > > > > -- > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > Broadband Deployment Group > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, New York 11741 USA > 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada > 631-585-5558 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WiMAX Security
I am familiar with these issues and hope you have time to read the post today at http://www.dailywireless.org/ Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WiMAX Security
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:11:45 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMAX Security > Dee, > > There is a lot of interesting info and a lot of speculative and very > wrong info in that article on WiMAX security; especially the part saying > that it's easy to jam WiMAX. Witness the following text from the article: > > > "It is reasonably simple, however, for an attacker to use readily > available tools to jam the spectrum for all planned WiMax deployments. > In addition to physical layer denial of service attacks, an attacker can > use legacy management frames to forcibly disconnect legitimate stations. > This is similar to the deauthenticate flood attacks used against 802.11 > networks. > > Despite good intentions for WiMax security, there are several potential > attacks open to adversaries, including: Rogue base stations, DoS > attacks, Man-in-the-middle attacks and Network manipulation with spoofed > management frames... " > > > > The article author imagines that jammers are going to have $30,000 > licensed "rogue" base stations laying around to jam with. > > The author somehow also imagines the possibility of jamming "all planned > WiMax deployments" - this is a ridiculous statement. > > The author further imagines that jamming will be allowed by the FCC. The > FCC may not act against jammers in license-free spectrum but rest > assured that they will very likely act against jammers in licensed > spectrum. For example, if someone started jamming Verizon cellphone > towers, both Verizon and the FCC would act pretty quickly to find the > guilty party and have them arrested. They could probably even be charged > as a terrorist under current laws. > > I'm glad you posted this link. Like many wireless articles these days, > this one contains some good information and some bad information. All we > need is the knowledge or the resources to tell which is which is which > is which... > > jack > > Hi Jack, Well, try calling me tomorrow. It will be an interesting conversation. -Dee > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > > I am familiar with these issues and hope you have time to read the post > today at > > http://www.dailywireless.org/ > > > > Cheers, > > -Dee > > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > > 1(907)349-4308 Office > > www.akwireless.net > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email a Critical Service? was: A wis p who went a little too far.......
- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:12:38 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] Email a Critical Service? was: A wisp who went a little too far... > If email becomes that important then your business becomes worth more > money. I welcome it personally. Obviously we will all need to > investigate ways of creating a more stable email environment than we > have now. I think we will need to consider developing a "pay per email" > platform where messages are billable. This goes both ways. It fixes the > spam issue also. This is our chance to become as important to the > American public as the delivery of first class mail. This is important > to discuss and debate. What is better? Email is not important or is > vitally important? > Scriv > > We serve email service for many who live and breathe daily on more than air, but be the email messages they send and receive. If your cell phone is dead, it's painful, but if your email service is down, it's unbearable. This is the words of our customers. We recently went to x64 systems and a more reliable route to accommodate email customer growth. Of course they like it without SPAM. Pay per email will cause a migration from your platform to one who isn't though, until that cost propagates. I find that even folks that run a horse ranch depend on email as much as hay these days. -Dee > fred wrote: > > > Why in the world, I want to know, are organ availability notifications > > going out via email???!!! Seriously. How fun will it be when they > > start serving subpeonas and such that way - What I never got that > > email?? > > > > ~fred > > > > On 12/16/06, Mike Ireton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> The really interesting part of this: > >> > >> > >> > > >> > The attack cut off service for one woman who was waiting for an e-mail > >> > notifying her about the availability of an organ transplant that she > >> > required, according to prosecutors. Because of her critical status, > >> her > >> > provider gave her priority status and restored her access within 24 > >> hours. > >> > > >> > "Had her medical providers sent her an e-mail notifying her of a > >> > suitable organ donor and had she not responded because of her lost > >> > Internet access, she might have lost her priority for an organ, thus > >> > potentially extending the period she would have to wait for another > >> > donor," wrote prosecutors in the indictment. > >> > > >> > >>People are starting to believe their email is guaranteed and > >> that their > >> computers can be entrusted with life saving information. Worse yet, it > >> appears these prosecutors would have trumped this up and made hay out of > >> it had her mail not gotten there. So in another context - what if the > >> stock pump and dump scammers started using wrapper text that mentioned > >> organ donations to the point of poisoning the Bayesian databases of all > >> spamassassin enabled mail servers? What if the mail has been blocked > >> outright due to other spam filtering already in place? Or put into a > >> quarantine and she didn't look in her quarantine box in time? Or if the > >> sending server of the mail was on an RBL due to some other user at the > >> site sending spam to spamcop spamtraps for example? > >> > >>Drama is drama. I think what this guy did was reprehensible > >> and he > >> certainly deserves the clink, but what he did is not any kind of threat > >> or risk to health and safety - the stupidity of using email and > >> computers for life saving communications IS. > >> > >> $0.02 > >> > >> Mike- > >> > >> -- > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications
It's really to bad that good companies in the wireless business bow to a few that seem to think we don't know why it's a season to celebrate? Let me say wholeheartedly and unabashedly Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to everyone. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Redline Communications [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:27:26 -0900 Subject: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications > Happy Holidays > > ~ > > Dear Dee, > > Redline Communications All of us at Redline Communications wish you... > > every happiness this Holiday Season and prosperity in > the New Year. > > > > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.redlinecommunications.com > - > > > This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Update Profile/Email Address > http://ui.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?p=oo&m=1101225795266&ea=dee%40akwireless.net&se=5670&t=1101489730650&lang=en&reason=F > > Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe(TM) > http://ui.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?p=un&m=1101225795266&ea=dee%40akwireless.net&se=5670&t=1101489730650&lang=en&reason=F > > Privacy Policy: > http://ui.constantcontact.com/roving/CCPrivacyPolicy.jsp > > > > > Powered by > Constant Contact(R) > www.constantcontact.com > > > > > Redline Communications | 302 Town Centre Blvd | Markham | Ontario | L3R 0E8 > | Canada > > > > > > > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] training
I really would like to see a "simple wireless installation training manual". The local folks wnat $7K to produce one :-( -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com, WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:26:18 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] training > Hi, > > Does anyone have a simple "wireless installation" training manual > already put together? We are finally to the point we need to have > something for the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something > they want to share? > > Travis > Microserv > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] sales 101
- Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:58:21 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] sales 101 > The problem comes when you have too much business so you stop selling... > and yes, it happens. We are in that "phase" right now... can't seem to > hire people fast enough... and yet we haven't done any real "sales" for > over a year... (currently have 84 wireless orders waiting to be > installed... that's a full month with 5 full-time installers.) > > Travis > Microserv Travis, It's a really good phase though, and it makes you look at temp's vs. employees which may not be a bad deal since the sales aren't up. -Dee > > Peter R. wrote: > > Selling is actively working a process or plan to ink deals. > > It involves prospecting, answering objections, providing a value > > proposition, inking contracts. > > Charles is right about the used car sales attitude, but that isn't > > usually the issue. > > Usually the issue is that no one is selling... everyone is just taking > > the orders as they come in. > > That's like saying the guy at the post office is in sales... "How many > > stamps do you want?" > > Cold calling, door knocking, networking and prospecting are sales > > activities. > > Waiting by the phone is not :) > > > > Peter Radizeski > > RAD-INFO, Inc. > > Marketing IDEA guy.com > > > > > > Charles Wu wrote: > > > >> > >> Profile your best clients. > >> Pick out who you want your clients to be. > >> Research them. > >> Be in front of them. > >> Sell them. > >> > >> > >> Here's one thing to discuss -- "selling" vs "order taking" > >> The conundrum of sales is that everyone LOVES to buy, but HATES being > >> sold > >> to > >> When one goes in the mentality to try to "sell something" -- more > >> often than > >> not, one ends up more like the "greasy car salesperson" that leaves a > >> bad > >> taste in someone's mouth > >> > >> -Charles > >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] speaking of CPE
I am wondering if anyone has these deployed: http://www.airlink101.com/products/ar504.html We don't prefer Linksys at all. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing
Hi Jack, We never hooked up to discuss things? I see you are alive and well though. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:23:47 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing > Here's a "Beware the Fine Print" comment... > > > http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html > > > jack > > > > Matt Liotta wrote: > > > http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SSH DOS Killing Linux
- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:26:39 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] SSH DOS Killing Linux > We recently had a really nasty DOS attack that took down a large part of our > > network across several cell sites, from the infected client all the way to > the Internet transit. > Take note that we identified the problem quickly and cured it quickly. > But This is the first time that this has occured in 5 years, as we have > a good number of smart design characteristics that have limited the effects > of most viruses on our network. We stopped the attack, by blocking SSH to > the infected sub. The average amount of traffic crossing the entire network > > path from the client to the Internet was about 500 kbps on average. (This > was a 20 mbps wireless link, and a 100mbps fiber trnasport link to the > transit.). The two routers were a P4 2Ghz, and a Dual XEON 2.2Ghz w/ > 10,000rpm SCSI3. The damage was that the CPU was nailed on both routers to > about 99.9% using "TOP" to monitor stats. We varified that successful SSH > sessions were not made directly to the protected routers themselves. Take > note that the wireless links were barely effected, it was the router 2 hops > away (Dual XEON) that got over loaded the most. Our routers have been > tested to pass over 2 gbps of throughput easilly. And have been load tested > > to survive very small packets and high PPS adequately. The infected sub was > bandwidth managed with HTB to 256k cir, 1 mbps mir, but not anything for > PPS. So I'm looking for reasons that the CPU got overloaded. My theory is > that the DOS attack resulted in a large number of disk writes, ( maybe > logging?) causing the CPU saturation. I've had a hard time locating the > cause. And have not discovered which virus yet, although I should have more > info soon from my clients. > > So my question > > What needs to be done on a Linux machine to harden it, to protect against > CPU oversaturation, during DOS attacks? > > What should and shouldn't be logged? Connection Tracking? Firewall logging? > Traffic stats? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > Hi Tom, What OS/application was running on these boxes? -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop
Hello Butch, Yes FreeBSD is great. That's why I have a MacBook Pro. :-) -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:44:59 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop > I am a FreeBSD guy. Heart and soul. However, I am in the process > of evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop. I > would just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux > thing...FreeBSD makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please), > but their desktop OS is not the best. > > -- > Butch Evans > Network Engineering and Security Consulting > 573-276-2879 > http://www.butchevans.com/ > My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > Mikrotik Certified Consultant > http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] outdoor webcam
Hi Travis, These folks use some nice ones: http://akweathercams.faa.gov/allcams.php and for the video description see http://www.medallionfoundation.org/webcam_video.htm I think they are Axis cameras with all weather enclosures. Temps in Alaska range from 100 above to around 80 below. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com, WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:24:03 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] outdoor webcam > Hi, > > Does anyone have suggestions for an outdoor webcam that will survive > _very_ harsh conditions (locations that get 60mph winds and up to 10ft > of snow each winter)? > > I'm not looking for anything fancy, just a basic webcam with ethernet > interface and maybe a wide-angle lens. > > Thanks, > > Travis > Microserv > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] good snmp client?
- Original Message - From: Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:52:55 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] good snmp client? > MRTG for trending/graphing: > http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ > > > Hi Frank, For anyone that used MRTG in the past, I highly recommend RRDtool instead. See http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/ We use this and Cacti and it's more up-to-date than MRTG. Runs well on linux. -Dee > Frank Keeney > Pasadena Networks, LLC > Antennas, Cables and Equipment: > http://www.wlanparts.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: steve > > > > Hi, > > I'm wondering what people are using for snmp monitoring of > > the network. > > I've got about a dozen devices so far, and more to come with expansion > > and am looking for a nice snmp poller that would preferably > > run on linux > > (debian) and give me nice looking reports with either web interface or > > client software. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Competing with WiMax & 3G+
I hope to have first hand experience as a BreezeMAX user soon to share. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Joshua M. Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:08:36 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] Competing with WiMax & 3G+ > I've been interested in using 900 MHz technology to start a small WISP in a > few areas in my region but am a bit intimidated by the vast amount of > competition. Just when I get started on the business plan and feasibility > of it all I start hearing about WiMax providers and 3G technology and wonder > if it would even be worth it. I mean by the time I get setup and running > and start to recover my original costs I will have to compete with not only > DSL & Cable but with other wireless type providers. > > > > It doesn't seem that 3G has the true speed or pricing that people want but > has the penetration (literally). As for WiMax it will have the speed and > interoperability to make the equipment cheaper but the penetration > (literally) of walls and other items like trees will be lacking. So 900 MHz > does seem to be the way to go since speed can be obtained to compete with > the standard wired providers and I can get the penetration. Does it even > all seem worth it to anyone else? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Joshua > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Alaska poses unique challenges
Thanks Patrick. Saw that earlier today and got a chuckle out of it. We do have a lot of Bald Eagles in Alaska, and here's a story worth reading: http://www.photosafaris.com/Articles/AlaskasEagleLady.asp Juneau is one of the cities getting BreezeMAX you know :-) -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:59:40 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] OT: Alaska poses unique challenges > This one's for you Dee! > > > > JUNEAU, Alaska - About 10,000 Juneau residents briefly lost power after > a bald eagle lugging a deer head crashed into transmission lines. "You > have to live in Alaska to have this kind of outage scenario," said Gayle > Wood, an Alaska Electric Light & Power spokeswoman. "This is the story > of the overly ambitious eagle who evidently found a deer head in the > landfill." > > The bird, weighed down by the deer head, apparently failed to clear the > transmission lines, she said. A repair crew found the eagle dead, the > deer head nearby. > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070129/ap_on_fe_st/eagle_power_outage > > > > Patrick Leary > > AVP WISP Markets > > Alvarion, Inc. > > o: 650.314.2628 > > c: 760.580.0080 > > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] St. Louis
Of course, Scriv isn't to far from St. Louis either. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:13:25 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] St. Louis > Try Mike Delp with Wisper. Victoria Proffer was a member of this list, but > I haven't seen her for awhile. Both are old timers and well respected in > the industry. Mike's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Respectfully, > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 > Founding Member of WISPA > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matt Liotta > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:57 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] St. Louis > > We are looking for some local people to work with in St. Louis. > Preferably, it would be an existing WISP, but local contractors would be > acceptable as well. Let me know if anyone is in that area. > > -Matt > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from.
We have BreezeMax 2.3GHz up and running here now :-) -Dee - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:31:57 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > I wonder where the heck the idea that WiMax has a stronger signal than wifi. > > Clearly these guys are talking about licensed vs. unlicensed wimax eh? > > laters, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:40 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > > > All, > > > > I ran across this article and found it quite amusing. > > > > As quoted from the article; > > > > "Newtowne Court public housing, chosen for its proximity to public > > buildings and its high percentage of school-age children, is already > > equipped with 20 to 30 antennae for WiFi, said Hart. Hart said the project > > > is being stalled because the 20 to 30 antennae aren’t strong enough. > > > > The next step for the city is to implement so-called WiMax, a stronger > > signal that will someday provide mobile wireless connectivity without a > > base station antenna. > > > > “The technology today doesn’t penetrate walls very well; leaves can > even > > get in its way because it’s a radio signal,” said Hart. “Right > behind this > > technology is WiMax. Nobody’s selling that yet but it’s so close to > taking > > over WiFi, it’s holding up a lot of projects.” " > > > > Link to full article below; > > http://www.townonline.com/cambridge/homepage/8998949105128439806 > > > > Regards, > > Dawn DiPietro > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from.
As soon as I can this info, I will answer these questions Scriv. So far we we only see 1.5M for coverage with the current rev of software. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:54:52 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > So can we get some real world data on how well it is working? Is the > terrain flat? Wooded? What kind of coverage area are you seeing? Power > levels up and down? Speeds up and down per client? Maximum CPE per > sector currently? Bandwidth used per sector? Is this 802.16 "d" or "e"? > FDD or TDD? Can you tell I have a few questions about WiMax? > Scriv > > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > >We have BreezeMax 2.3GHz up and running here now :-) > > > >-Dee > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Marlon K. Schafer > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: WISPA General List > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:31:57 -0900 > >Subject: > >Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > > > > > > > > >>I wonder where the heck the idea that WiMax has a stronger signal than > wifi. > >> > >>Clearly these guys are talking about licensed vs. unlicensed wimax eh? > >> > >>laters, > >>marlon > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "WISPA General List" > >>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:40 AM > >>Subject: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>All, > >>> > >>>I ran across this article and found it quite amusing. > >>> > >>>As quoted from the article; > >>> > >>>"Newtowne Court public housing, chosen for its proximity to public > >>>buildings and its high percentage of school-age children, is already > >>>equipped with 20 to 30 antennae for WiFi, said Hart. Hart said the > project > >>> > >>> > >>>is being stalled because the 20 to 30 antennae aren’t strong enough. > >>> > >>>The next step for the city is to implement so-called WiMax, a stronger > >>>signal that will someday provide mobile wireless connectivity without a > >>>base station antenna. > >>> > >>>“The technology today doesn’t penetrate walls very well; leaves can > >>> > >>> > >>even > >> > >> > >>>get in its way because it’s a radio signal,” said Hart. “Right > >>> > >>> > >>behind this > >> > >> > >>>technology is WiMax. Nobody’s selling that yet but it’s so close to > >>> > >>> > >>taking > >> > >> > >>>over WiFi, it’s holding up a lot of projects.” " > >>> > >>>Link to full article below; > >>>http://www.townonline.com/cambridge/homepage/8998949105128439806 > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>Dawn DiPietro > >>>-- > >>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Another expert heard from.
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:52:51 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > Yes, but that's with the self-install indoor CPE, right? Nothing > outdoors except the wilderness :) > Nothing like keeping me honest Patrick :-) Thanks. We are testing in diverse areas and due to the need for self install primarily, it's the indoor CPE. -Dee > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of W.D.McKinney > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > As soon as I can this info, I will answer these questions Scriv. So far > we > we only see 1.5M for coverage with the current rev of software. > > -Dee > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > 1(907)349-4308 Office > www.akwireless.net > > > - Original Message - > From: John Scrivner > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: WISPA General List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:54:52 -0900 > Subject: > Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > > > So can we get some real world data on how well it is working? Is the > > terrain flat? Wooded? What kind of coverage area are you seeing? Power > > > levels up and down? Speeds up and down per client? Maximum CPE per > > sector currently? Bandwidth used per sector? Is this 802.16 "d" or > "e"? > > FDD or TDD? Can you tell I have a few questions about WiMax? > > Scriv > > > > > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > > > >We have BreezeMax 2.3GHz up and running here now :-) > > > > > >-Dee > > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > > >From: Marlon K. Schafer > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: WISPA General List > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:31:57 -0900 > > >Subject: > > >Re: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I wonder where the heck the idea that WiMax has a stronger signal > than > > wifi. > > >> > > >>Clearly these guys are talking about licensed vs. unlicensed wimax > eh? > > >> > > >>laters, > > >>marlon > > >> > > >>- Original Message - > > >>From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: "WISPA General List" > > >>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:40 AM > > >>Subject: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>All, > > >>> > > >>>I ran across this article and found it quite amusing. > > >>> > > >>>As quoted from the article; > > >>> > > >>>"Newtowne Court public housing, chosen for its proximity to public > > >>>buildings and its high percentage of school-age children, is > already > > >>>equipped with 20 to 30 antennae for WiFi, said Hart. Hart said the > > project > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>is being stalled because the 20 to 30 antennae aren't strong > enough. > > >>> > > >>>The next step for the city is to implement so-called WiMax, a > stronger > > >>>signal that will someday provide mobile wireless connectivity > without a > > >>>base station antenna. > > >>> > > >>>"The technology today doesn't penetrate walls very well; leaves can > > >>> > > >>> > > >>even > > >> > > >> > > >>>get in its way because it's a radio signal," said Hart. "Right > > >>> > > >>> > > >>behind this > > >> > > >> > > >>>technology is WiMax. Nobody's selling that yet but it's so close to > > >>> > > >>> > > >>taking > > >> > > >> > > >>>over WiFi, it's holding up a lot of projects." " > > >>> > > >>>Link to full article below; > > >>>http://www.townonl
Re: [WISPA] OT: YOUTUBE has a WiMAX ad on TV in Alaska, link
Yes indeed, and thanks Alvarion. Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:12:28 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] OT: YOUTUBE has a WiMAX ad on TV in Alaska, link > It is an AT&T commercial. Near the end of the ad is a blue box on the > desk. That is an Alvarion BreezeMAX Si self-install CPE. This is an > 802.16e WiMAX network and according to the add they are selling data and > voice (the Si's can have voice ports on it). At least for us, this is > awesome to see our technology and wireless broadband at large on TV. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8gO1dEMzI8 > > Thanks Dee! > > Patrick > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] sigh
Yes and a look here reveals more info also: http://www.barracudacentral.com/ A nice list of the blocked web sites also. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:51:20 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] sigh > http://now.eloqua.com/es.asp?s=303&e=DF1EADB0E7D4476EB904375231EC2671&elq=2E305B24C0614377B52BFFD4AE865E6B > > I HATE those people. Hope they all die quick but painful deaths. > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: YOUTUBE has a WiMAX ad on TV in Alaska, link
Hi George, It's 2.3GHz -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:32:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: YOUTUBE has a WiMAX ad on TV in Alaska, link > What frequency is this? > > George > > Patrick Leary wrote: > > It is an AT&T commercial. Near the end of the ad is a blue box on the > > desk. That is an Alvarion BreezeMAX Si self-install CPE. This is an > > 802.16e WiMAX network and according to the add they are selling data and > > voice (the Si's can have voice ports on it). At least for us, this is > > awesome to see our technology and wireless broadband at large on TV. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8gO1dEMzI8 > > > > Thanks Dee! > > > > Patrick > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas
Yes, see http://www.bgcfreedom.com/ -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:55:37 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas > I am curious if anyone on the list is familiar with wireless internet > service in the Bahamas. > > -Matt > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wholesale WiMAX
I saw this post and thought wow, a lot of money in the build-out side for this. http://www.towerstream.com/content.asp?serviceareas Then I read this: http://www.dailywireless.org/2007/08/15/towerstream-to-wholesale-mobile-wimax/ So if you want see BreezeMAX in action here you go. Of course you could fly to Juneau, AK and get one also. :-) -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Howdy from Alaska,
After searching long and hard for nice servers, we went with these:
http://www.aslab.com/products/rackmount/rackmount.html
They have been solid, without incident and running 24/7/365.
We can get different types of drives depending on what we need, mem options are
very nice and support is great.
Hope this helps,
-Dee
Alaska Wireless Systems
1(907)240-2183 Cell
1(907)349-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net
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> Hi Gang!
>
> I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
> and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
> souls out there that build their own hardware.
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
> rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
>
> I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
> but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
> I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
> for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
>
> My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
> good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
> of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
> is tempting me in their direction.
>
> Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
>
> If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
>
> Dave Brenton
> General Manager
> Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
> 3430 Highway 49
> Dover TN 37058
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 931.232.0914 (office)
> 931.827.4181 (home)
> 931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
>
> Livin' on Central Stupid Time ('til October)
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit
Hi George, 49 here also, when do you turn 50? -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:06:43 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit > No little kids here. Mine are all grown. One is the admin for > OregonFAST.net and the other 2 are pc techs here as well. > 2 of them are actually owners of this business. > > My wife mentioned having another but at 49, I'm thinking thats not a > good thing. > > George > > > Patrick Leary wrote: > > You must not have little kids like I do! They got me up nice and early > > at 6:30 AM today. I would not know recognize a weekend morning without > > Sagwa or Clifford the Big Red Dog. > > > > Patrick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of George Rogato > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:49 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit > > > > First off Patrick, we will be going to the carpet in a few minutes when > > I get my thoughts collected. I just woke up an hour ago and am sometimes > > > > a little sluggish in the early hours. > > > > 2nd, Dlink, Linksys and Netgear all have antennas listed on their sites > > for use with their units. > > > > I may be wrong, but I would ass u me that they have been certified. > > > > But do your due diligense and check first to make sure. > > > > :) > > > > George > > > > > > > > Patrick Leary wrote: > > > >>"If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell, Of > >>course they are certified. Is the certification void if it was torn > >>apart and had a bigger antenna and amplifier added, probably not, > > > > unless > > > >>it is to their certified specs." > >> > >>That would be uncertified. This is not a debatable point. This would > > > > be > > > >>taking a consumer device, which is built to permit "self-installation" > >>into a device for which the FCC says there must be a "professional" > >>installation. These are the most confusing parts of the rules for > >>novices, but basically if you are installing for another end user, you > >>are assumed to be "professional," which actually imposes certain > >>liabilities and responsibilities on you. > >> > >>Further, this would void the certification EVEN if it still met the > >>manufacturer specs because, for better of worse, only the OEM > >>manufacturer can self-certify antenna changes. George, you were in the > >>room at the FCC with me when they told us this so you know it. It is > >>impossible to forget since Marlon pounded them about for most of the > >>meeting but they would not budge that only a manufacturer can pick and > >>chose additional antennas and then only antennas of equal or less > > > > power > > > >>AND with similar specs (relative to emissions on sidelobs, etc.). > > > > Really > > > >>all that was done in that ruling was to make the "permissive change" > >>rules more simple. None of this was done for the protection of the > >>manufacturers, but rather to make sure the FCC had one throat to > > > > choke. > > > >>Patrick Leary > >>AVP WISP Markets > >>Alvarion, Inc. > >>o: 650.314.2628 > >>c: 760.580.0080 > >>Vonage: 650.641.1243 > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On > > > >>Behalf Of George Rogato > >>Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:24 AM > >>To: WISPA General List > >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit > >> > >> > >> > >>Sam Tetherow wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>So are you saying that a PCMCIA card with software and internal > >> > >>antenna > >> > >> > >>>is not certified? > >>> > >>>No one has yet to answer this question for me. Is it legal for Best > >> > >>Buy > >> > >> > >>>to sell DLink/Linksys/Netgear/Belkin/... pcmcia cards for laptops? > >> > >>What > >> > >> > >>>about USB dongles? If they are legal how is they can certify a card > >> > >>and > >> > >> > >>>drivers, but we can't certify a minipci with software? > >>> > >> > >> > >>If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell, > >>Of course they are certified. > >>Is the certification void if it was torn apart and had a bigger > > > > antenna > > > >>and amplifier added, probably not, unless it is to their certified > >>specs. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:52:45 -0900 Subject: [WISPA] HAPPY BIRTHDAY! > Today is Scriv's birthday! I'll let him tell his age (if he wants), > but I'd like to extend my warmest greetings to him and best wishes > for a happy birthday. Thank you for your tireless efforts to > enhance our industry. > > Given all that has been happening, both in his personal life, his business and WISPA, I trust he takes time today for some cheer. The industry has benefited greatly due to his work in many areas. Nice to be able to post and say thanks Scriv and Happy Birthday. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] news
Not far enough north Patrick :-) Try Kenai, Alaska around July 19th. We can sit in lounge chairs overlooking the Kenai River, eat fresh Red Salmon, and relax. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:51:37 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] news > Btw, what's the best time of year in Odessa? I think I should go up > there to escape and "cave it" with you for a weekend. > > Patrick > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:50 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] news > > Point well taken. > > Marlon <--- slinks back into the wireless underground where he's more up > to > speed. > > > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:44 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] news > > > Friend, you live in your real world, which may or may not resemble > everyone else's experiences, including WISPs. But regardless, you are > making and publicizing financial judgments about other companies that > are simply incorrect. Whether or not a public company makes or loses > money is not an opinion, it is something that 30 seconds of > researchon Google (thanks to those efficiencies) can reveal. > > You are a person to whom others listen to; you thus have a > responsibility for being as factual (about simple facts) as possible. > When you are not, it calls into question the validity of other > statements about facts you might make, i.e. it becomes fair to wonder if > you careless with the facts. > > As for opinions, you are 100% entitled to have and offer any. > > This is not a slam, just unsolicited advice from a peer who respects you > and its protective of how you may be perceived (remember, everyday > brings new readers). > > And yes, I know full well, that I often set myself as a lightning rod on > lists, but I believe my facts are seldom in question (and I always > welcome factual corrections). > > Patrick > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:22 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] news > > LOL > > Naw, I live in the real world. > > I try too hard to keep things simple sometimes though. My wife works > for an > accountant and when she puts a check to us in the books as an expense my > > eyes glaze over. > > Or when the bank tells me I'm not making any money cause there wasn't > enough > left over for the tax man to take at the end of the year. When ALL of > the > bills get paid, mostly on time, and when I have food on the table and > new > towers coming online I think things are going just fine! > > grin > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:09 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] news > > > ..as for Vonage, it's investors have been fleeing in droves ever since > the IPO, driving down the per share price from the high of about $17 to > about $4.20 so far today (on the heels of the patent suit loss to > Verizon). Yes, every share sold is also a share bought, but the > company's violent share deterioration tells you clearly what the market, > i.e. investors, think of the company as an investment. > > Marlon, I think you live in Oppositeville and not Odessa! > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:39 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] news > > Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. > > I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with > another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. > > I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play > with > > Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money?
Re: [WISPA] ot, linux for home users
Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:34:32 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot, linux for home users > And you do know Ubuntu is from The Republic of South Africa right??? > > You have a Good Day now, > Do you you any problems with the Republic of South Africa? Ubuntu has developers in other countries also. A very nice distribution for both servers and workstations. -Dee > > > Butch Evans wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > > > >> With all the uproar I'm reading about the computing disaster known as > >> Vista I wonder about setting up Linux machines for folks. Especially > >> those that just want to do email and surf the net. > > > > Probably (as mentioned) Ubuntu is a good distro. Fedora Core is > > another good one that is easy to use, and still offers good options > > for geeks (or geek wannabes). Another "up and coming" offering is > > PCLinuxOS. That one is at http://www.pclinuxos.com/news.php > > > > You can download a bootable ISO image of the pclinux and it will be > > your install disk as well. Very nice option, IMO. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] news
NextNet 2.5GHz MMDS up here. Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: RickG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:20:51 -0900 Subject: Re: [WISPA] news > What does Clearwire use for equipment? > > On 3/9/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Too bad some many customers say that the service sucks. > > > > I have a customer that moved. Loved our wireless so much she went with > > another wireless provider in the new local. Clearwire. > > > > I'm told there was no comparison. Oh well, with so much money to play > > with > > > > Wonder if they'll ever actually earn real money? > > > > This stock market thing amazes me. Google's loosing money and sitll gets > > investors. Vonage looses money and still gets investors. We MAKE money > and > > can't get growth funds. > > > > sigh > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:04 AM > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] news > > > > > > Yes, it is good. So good that they were able to let loose with a reserve > > of an additional 4 million shares, with all shares entering the market > > at the high end of their anticipated offer price range. Remember, they > > also received $900M last year in what was the largest venture deal in > > the U.S. to date. That came from Intel with participation from Motorola. > > The details were not fully made public, but as part Motorola agreed to > > buy their NextNet business. We also know that Intel owns like 33% of the > > business. McCaw owns the same, though he retains 49% voting rights. > > > > All this combined gives Clearwire a rough market cap of $3B dollars now, > > which grows McCaw's personal net worth from about $2B to $3B. > > > > So, if anyone though Clearwire was already aggressively trying to access > > local BRS and EBS spectrum, you ain't seen nothing yet. Must be nice. > > > > Patrick Leary > > AVP WISP Markets > > Alvarion, Inc. > > o: 650.314.2628 > > c: 760.580.0080 > > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:34 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] news > > > > Is $600m good? I thought they owed that much in bank loans already. > > > > Marlon > > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:15 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] news > > > > > > > Clearwire IPO'ed and got $600M, twice the price of the BellSouth > > spectrum. > > > > > > EarthLink is buying the Corpus Christi wi-fi network for $5.5M. > > > > > > ELN will market TIVO. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Peter Radizeski > > > RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist > > > We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate > > > 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > > computer viruses(190). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > > > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > > computer viruses(42). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] Walmart
That would be a losing battle, as we have RFID deployed all over the ship yards, the railroad and soon airport cargo facilities. The large enterprise lobby will no doubt chime in. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:07:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart > Just another reason we have to fight hard to prevent personal portable > devices. > > Maybe we should also fight against rfid technology too? > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:09 PM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Walmart > > > > yeah? Wait'll 700 mhz is unlicensed. Talk about the perfect rfid > > spectrum. > > > > fUn > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of George Rogato > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:22 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart > > > > When we were in DC a couple years ago they told us that rfid was going > > 900 so beware. You've just re - emphasized that fact. > > S0 now we know, 900 is even worse for us to use than we previously > > realized. > > > > > > > > Ray & Jean wrote: > >> Hey All > >> We really appreciate you taking the time to offer your ideas on how to > >> resolve our problem.We have decided that switching to Hpol and sectors > > will > >> be our fastest and cheapest way to resolve the issue which in the long > >> run > >> is probally a good idea to avoid future problems.We may try some of the > >> legal and publicity suggestions that were mentioned,but in the short term > > it > >> looks like walmart wins.By the way we are located approx 2000 ft LOS > >> from > >> their docks.again thanks for all the advice. > >> Ray Hill > >> surfmore.net > > > > -- > > George Rogato > > > > Welcome to WISPA > > > > www.wispa.org > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV - HomeZone
Well with AT&T's HomeZone there is a lot of bandwidth use coming up. We are testing it up here in Alaska and it works quite slick. It downloads via the WiMax network and caches it for you. So the bandwidth usage it the deal, not IPTV streaming. Anyone else on the list using it? -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:40:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV > I agree with Travis for similar reasons. I doubt anyone other than the > fiber to the home people are going to be able to compete with IPTV > unless something drastic happens for wireless delivery of bandwidth. > With the proliferation of 720p HDTV and up I can't see someone hooking > that up to the internet so they can watch 320x240 videos. > > The goggle/youtube numbers are impressive, but they really are apples to > oranges when comparing to TV content. 151 minutes of programming a > month is a far cry from the average of at least that a day for normal TV > viewing. > > In my opinion there is only one thing that will make IPTV the killer > application and that is retroactive time shifting. In other words, if > I'm at the coffee shop and everyone is talking about the cool show they > watched last night or over the weekend and I can go online and get it. > > Until that occurs I don't see the benefit of tying up my IP pipe for > video when I can affordably get it off of a medium better suited for it > (general broadcast rather than the multiple ptp streams of IPTV). Until > someone works out a deal with the major networks to be able to store and > serve content at an affordable rate most people will stick with a > dish/cable and a HD PVR. Going to the network sites only in a last > ditch to get that episode of Lost that they missed. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > > George Rogato wrote: > > Nice easy reading here. > > > > http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=1264 > > > > Looks like the trend is towards video on demand. > > > > Here's a link: > > > > http://www.tv-links.co.uk/index.do/4 > > > > We have a long way to go before this stuff is mainstream for sure. But > > there is a convergence happening. > > I myself don't want to watch a movie on my pc monitor. I like the > > comfort of a big picture in my easy chair. When I can do that with > > internet tv, it will be a lot more popular. > > > > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Clarity Connect, Inc.
- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:06:59 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Clarity Connect, Inc. > Please welcome Chuck Bartosch of Clarity Connect, Inc. He is one of > many WISPs who has made the move to support our industry with his > official status in WISPA as a Principal WISPA Member. Thank you Chcuk! > Here is some information about our new WISPA member: > > Clarity Connect, Inc. started in 1995, like most of us with dialup only, > but quickly added other connection options such as frame relay and > dedicated T1s. Looking for ways to compete against a local telephone > company, we started offering dsl commercially in August of 1996 > (probably one of the first ISPs in the US to do so). We added our first > wireless customer in late 1997 but didn't get serious with wireless > until a couple of years ago. We now offer wireless services in southern > central upstate NY and northern PA. Though this glacially abused terrain > is difficult to cover well, we are currently a moderate sized WISP with > about 1000 wireless customers. > > I'm quite impressed with the knowledge of our WISPA general list > members, and can see I've got a lot to learn here. I'm even more > impressed with the dedication of the leadership that numerous people > provide in the organization. I look forward to investing in WISPA to aid > both our growth and the success of our industry. > > Chuck > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Welcome aboard Chuck, and glad to know you are the WISP business also. Cheers from Alaska. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2 x ?
- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:30:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2x ? > Hogwash. > > Speak Easy is also an ISP that has a business model that sells under cost. > Therefore a lower value than an ISP with high profit margins. > > Reasons why Towerstream was evaled at over 20x annual (market cap). > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > You are correct Tom. Of course, market conditions vary and thus market cap will as well. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2x ? > > > > Speakeasy was not a WISP. > > > > *Middletown, RI—Jan. 30, 2007—*Towerstream (OTCBB: TWER.OB), a leading > > > fixed wireless Internet provider, today announced the launch of its Hi-Vi > > T1+ wireless broadband solution in the Seattle metropolitan area. The > > company has acquired Speakeasy's wireless broadband network assets in > > Seattle, enabling Towerstream to deliver high availability wireless > > broadband to area businesses with 99.999% reliability for a fraction of > > traditional carrier costs. The Company will also partner with Speakeasy, a > > > national small business-focused voice and data services provider, for > > distribution of fixed wireless broadband services in major cities > > throughout the country. > > > > Speakeasy at the time of sale to Best Buy was a hosting company, > > non-facilities based ISP, and VOIP Provider. > > Speakeasy sells nationwide leasing the access from various carriers > > through WTG ( a reseller). > > > > 1.2x is about right for a Business ISP. > > > > Regards, > > > > Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > George Rogato wrote: > > > >> Speakeasy went for 1.2x annual revenue. What is a smaller isp worth? > >> > >> http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php > >> > >> > >> Best Buy anticipates a closing date for the transaction in the first > >> quarter of its 2008 fiscal year. Following the close, Speakeasy would > >> operate as a wholly owned subsidiary of Best Buy. The company disclosed > >> the purchase price of approximately $97 million, which represents > >> approximately 1.2 times Speakeasy's calendar year 2006 revenue of $80 > >> million. Best Buy currently expects the transaction to be neutral to > >> fiscal 2008 earnings. > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAXtechnology
So with BellSouth having Navini in 2.3GHz and AT&T Alascom having Alvarion BreezeMAX, who was the first to have a full fledged 802.16x deployment? "Among the fist" is easy to say. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:07:53 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAXtechnology > If you note the date, you can see this is a few months old. They now > have 2.5 GHz gear. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy > WiMAXtechnology > > Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAX technology > > By kpaul, Section BSU > Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 11:46:47 AM EST > By Anthony Romano > > MUNCIE, IN - The "wireless world" will be watching Ball State's Office > of Wireless Research and Mapping (OWRM) closely as it becomes among the > first to test and deploy WiMAX technology in the United States. > > Using a six-month experimental license granted by the FCC, the OWRM is > partnering with Alvarion and Digital Bridge Communications to test WiMAX > > technology on equipment at 3.5GHz, a frequency used outside of the > United States. > > Testing is being done at this higher frequency because there is > currently no equipment available for testing at 2.5 GHz, a frequency > that will be used to provide broadband services such as cell phones and > Internet in the United States in the coming months. > > "The goal is to find out as much about this technology as possible, and > then begin sharing the information with others who are anxiously > awaiting for 2.5GHz WiMAX technology to arrive," said O'Neal Smitherman, > > Ball State's vice president for information technology. > > Researchers from OWRM are putting the WiMAX technology through a variety > > of tests in order to find out more about connectivity, throughput, > capacity, signal strength and penetration inside the home under > variables such as weather, trees, elevation and distance. > > Smitherman says several telecommunications companies have already > expressed interest in the test results because of valuable information > it will provide in the future development of broadband services to more > rural and underserved areas of the country. > > "Through testing and deployment over the next 90 days, we will be able > to examine the performance of the WiMAX platform based on the IEEE > 802.16 standard, as well as have an opportunity to fine tune our GIS > mapping capability using real data," said Smitherman. "This will give us > > the data needed to accurately predict and map signal coverage anywhere." > > Digital Bridge Communications, a provider of broadband wireless services > > to rural and underserved communities, will assist the OWRM in the > testing and deployment of true WiMAX technology. Equipment being used > for testing comes from Alvarion, the world's largest manufacturer of > wireless broadband. Afterimage GIS, a company that specializes in RF > modeling, design and market analysis will also assist in the study. > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses(190). > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses(42). > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp > Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been s
Re: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAXtechnology
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:51:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAXtechnology > Dee, > > I find that there are so many claiming to be the first so at least they > make it sound like it's not the same old thing, even if it is. ;-) So I > guess claims like that have to be taken with a grain of salt in my opinion. > Agreed. Maybe some some snacks with the salt also. > This is part of the reason I don't post such and such a city is putting > up a wireless network anymore. As I like to put it yet another city is > deploying a wifi network. It is not really newsworthy anymore unless > they ARE doing something revolutionary. > Hopefully I'll find some free wifi as I'll be in Harrisburg next week. Cheers, -Dee > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > So with BellSouth having Navini in 2.3GHz and AT&T Alascom having Alvarion > BreezeMAX, who was the first to have a full fledged 802.16x deployment? > "Among the fist" is easy to say. > > > > -Dee > > > > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > > 1(907)349-4308 Office > > www.akwireless.net > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Patrick Leary > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: WISPA General List > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:07:53 -0800 > > Subject: > > RE: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy > > WiMAXtechnology > > > > > > > >> If you note the date, you can see this is a few months old. They now > >> have 2.5 GHz gear. > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> AVP WISP Markets > >> Alvarion, Inc. > >> o: 650.314.2628 > >> c: 760.580.0080 > >> Vonage: 650.641.1243 > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro > >> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:16 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy > >> WiMAXtechnology > >> > >> Ball State receives FCC approval to test and deploy WiMAX technology > >> > >> By kpaul, Section BSU > >> Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 11:46:47 AM EST > >> By Anthony Romano > >> > >> MUNCIE, IN - The "wireless world" will be watching Ball State's Office > >> of Wireless Research and Mapping (OWRM) closely as it becomes among the > >> first to test and deploy WiMAX technology in the United States. > >> > >> Using a six-month experimental license granted by the FCC, the OWRM is > >> partnering with Alvarion and Digital Bridge Communications to test WiMAX > >> > >> technology on equipment at 3.5GHz, a frequency used outside of the > >> United States. > >> > >> Testing is being done at this higher frequency because there is > >> currently no equipment available for testing at 2.5 GHz, a frequency > >> that will be used to provide broadband services such as cell phones and > >> Internet in the United States in the coming months. > >> > >> "The goal is to find out as much about this technology as possible, and > >> then begin sharing the information with others who are anxiously > >> awaiting for 2.5GHz WiMAX technology to arrive," said O'Neal Smitherman, > >> > >> Ball State's vice president for information technology. > >> > >> Researchers from OWRM are putting the WiMAX technology through a variety > >> > >> of tests in order to find out more about connectivity, throughput, > >> capacity, signal strength and penetration inside the home under > >> variables such as weather, trees, elevation and distance. > >> > >> Smitherman says several telecommunications companies have already > >> expressed interest in the test results because of valuable information > >> it will provide in the future development of broadband services to more > >> rural and underserved areas of the country. > >> > >> "Through testing and deployment over the next 90 days, we will be able > >> to examine the performance of the WiMAX platform based on the IEEE > >> 802.16 standard, as well as have an opportunity to fine
Re: [WISPA] Mirrored Switch
For low cost managed rack mount switches try D-Link. See http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2&pid=86 -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: John Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 02 May 2007 18:42:35 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mirrored Switch > If you want something a little easier on the pocketbook, managed HP > Procurves work well. > > John > > > Mark Price wrote: > > Matt wrote: > >> Does anyone reccommend a good switch that supports this and is rack > >> mount? Hopefully available at newegg.com. Putting together a Linux > >> server is easy but my luck a good switch might be backordered when I > >> need it. > >> > >> Matt > > > > Almost any standard Cisco (not linksys consumer junk) switch can do this > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833120109 > > > > Here is the datasheet: > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps628/products_data_sheet09186a00801cfb71.html > > > > > > > "A Switched Port Analyzer (SPAN) port can mirror traffic from one or > > many ports to another port for monitoring all nine RMON groups with an > > RMON probe or network analyzer." > > > > > > Mark > > > > www.achievewireless.com > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
Yes and up here is $350.00 oer month for a 1MB Business connect. Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question > gas 3.20 per gallon here. $95.00 to fill my truck yesterday. > > Sheesh > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > We have a line item of: > > "Surcharge to cover the cost of a sales tax being charged against our > > fiber connection." Or words to that effect. We don't call it a tax, we > > specifically call it a surcharge. I think that several out here do > > something similar. > > > > We also charge a $10 trip charge anytime gas is over $2.50 per gallon in > > this area. If it hits anywhere close to $4 I'll likely raise that to > > $15. People don't like it but they do understand. Especially when > > nearly everyone else out here has also put on fuel charges. > > > > The only good thing about current gas prices is that crop prices are > > also way up. I'll take $3 fuel with $6 wheat any day :-) > > marlon > > > > - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question > > > > > >> I think you better just take a rate increase and chalk it up to > >> increased expenses all the way around as opposed to creating a CALEA > >> charge line item. Adding a fee as a line item could get you in trouble > >> with the FTC if not approved as a legitimate added government fee > >> (just my opinion, nothing to base this on other than my gut). Your > >> fuel and electricity have jumped considerably I am sure. I am > >> considering a rate increase over these added costs also. I see no way > >> around it. I have never raised my rates in 10 years. Times are > >> changing I am afraid. > >> Scriv > >> > >> > >> Ross Cornett wrote: > >> > >>> I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under > >>> CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get > >>> underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk > >>> upon themselves by not becoming compliant. > >>> > >>> It appears that it is time to start charging a homeland security fee. > >>> Since we cannot authorize taxes, we can charge fees that will allow > >>> us to mange these cost. By my figures, I will have to charge at > >>> least $1.53 per month per customer. Since this doens't include > >>> dialup customers, my broadband customers will have to incurr this > >>> burden alone. > >>> > >>> What are you thougths on this. > >>> > >>> > >>> - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question > >>> > >>> > Peter R. wrote: > > > Why not check with a knowledgeable legal professional instead of > > guessing? > > > That'd be my boss's department. :D > > I'm just a pundit - full of opinions and hot air. > > > Now you can choose to ignore it, and say a prayer daily that Barney > > Fife > > or any other LEA officer does not knock on your door > > > I'd encourage Barney Fife to knock on my door, I wouldn't mind having > his autograph. Remember him from "Three's Company"? > > Edit: Apparently Don Knotts died last year. Now I'm sad. :( > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to Mac, Matt, Rick and Patrick
After turning 50 this year, it's been fun. Getting a little gray here but with a full of head of hair, I am still not looking like 50 :-) If you can come up, swing here around July 17th - 25th for a big barbecue and all the fresh salmon you want. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 04 May 2007 14:13:20 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to Mac, Matt, Rick and Patrick > Thanks David, > > I'm just damned pleased that life did not end at 42! I just past a scary > year (long story not for here). I'm looking forward to 50; my little > girls will be in the throws of their teen age years. Fortunately, I > don't have to worry about my hair graying. Been there. Done that. > > - Patrick > > On 5/4/07, David Weddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Happy Birthday to all of you and especially to my "old" boss Rick > Harnish!! > > Just remember, life begins at 50 so you still have 5 more years to > wait!! > > > Regards, > David Weddell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 260 918 0737 Office > 260 273 7547 Cell > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
We don't use Exchane even though it's powerful, way to many holes for the wrong folks. But run a better verion of MTA that has all the bells and whistles. Lot's of users around the globe. Hit me up off-list if you want more info. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:12:41 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another with > our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We > have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost > effective to outsource something this small? Also on a similar note, does > anyone know of a free Exchange host out there that will download pop3 mail > and Direct Push to my mobile phone? > > Thanks > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services
The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get counsel. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:33:45 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > George, > > It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to > exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated with > the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally figured > out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a fiber > connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and > T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a PRI > short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion of > this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of the > world. > > I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know Bell > South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder what > the deal is! > > > Mac > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of George Rogato > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:37 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services > > > > I'm sure Peter can help, but I'm curious why the clec doesn't know these > > things, aren't they a facilities based clec with interconection > > agreement with the ilec? > > > > George > > > > Rick Harnish wrote: > > > Peter is no longer suspended and I agree with Mac! > > > > > > Rick Harnish > > > President > > > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > > > 260-827-2482 > > > Founding Member of WISPA > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:45 PM > > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > > > > > > Doug, > > > > > > I can give you a name of a man who can take you by the hand and lead > > you > > > through the wildness of the Telco maze as well as explain it to where > > you > > > can understand it all. I can also tell you he is ABSOLUTELY worth more > > than > > > he charges for consulting! His name is Peter Radizeski and he is member > > on > > > the free WISPA list - - currently suspended for - - er...well, less > > than > > > perfect list etiquette (hehehehehe) > > > > > > Email addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > http://www.rad-info.net/ > > > > > > GL, > > > > > > > > > Mac Dearman > > > Maximum Access, LLC. > > > Rayville, La. > > > www.inetsouth.com > > > www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief) > > > www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales) > > > 318.728.8600 > > > 318.728.9600 > > > 318.303.4182 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > >> Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe > > >> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 AM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: [WISPA] CLEC Services > > >> > > >> We have a CLEC who's co-located their offices with ours, and although > > >> they're residential copper analog only, they told us they can order > > >> anything > > >> from the ILEC for us for cost and a small markup. But it's Bellsouth > > >> territory, and he's given me the tech line's phone number and a big > > book > > >> of > > >> services, but I don't even know where to start. I'm looking for prices > > on > > >> T1's, and also DSL I can sell private label with my own TOS. I don't > > want > > >> to have any facilities to install at the CO, just use the CO's > > equipment > > >> under the CLEC's name but I don't even know what services to request. > > >> > > >> Any ideas where to start? > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > >> > > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > >> > > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > -- > > George Rogato > > > > Welcome to WISPA > > > > www.wispa.org > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailma
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Try an Imagestream for some horsepower :-) Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:08:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC > (sorry to reply to my own post)... > > Forgot to mention...150 cable customers on the remote side of a wireless > link as well. > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC > > > > This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. > > > > 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through > > > it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP > > between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. > > > > Mark Nash > > Network Engineer > > UnwiredOnline.Net > > 350 Holly Street > > Junction City, OR 97448 > > http://www.uwol.net > > 541-998- > > 541-998-5599 fax > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'WISPA General List'" > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC > > > > > >> What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? > >> > >> Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet > >> boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. > >> > >> Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed > > >> in > >> the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. > >> > >> Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel > >> cpu > >> on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic > >> card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with > >> routing. > >> No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu > >> fan. > >> > >> Robert > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Mark Nash > >> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC > >> > >> I need more horsepower at one router site. > >> > >> It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, > >> mostly > >> > >> in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19" rack (only about 18" > >> deep, > >> > >> though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik > >> RouterOS. > >> > >> Can anyone recommend a box for this? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Mark Nash > >> Network Engineer > >> UnwiredOnline.Net > >> 350 Holly Street > >> Junction City, OR 97448 > >> http://www.uwol.net > >> 541-998- > >> 541-998-5599 fax > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 04:07:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services > All, > > The way the ILEC's look at it, they put the infrastructure in place and > to have CLEC's profit from it would not be in their best interest since > the CLEC would be using these same lines the ILECs could potentially get > retail for. Whether the ILEC would actually provide these services is an > argument for another day. As I understand it, one of the advantages of > getting CLEC status was to get better pricing, this is no longer the case. > > I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. :-) > > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro You are correct, I have worked for an IXC, ILEC and CLEC in past lives. Currently there is a move to make CLEC's pay up for the "no facilities" side, as they capitalized on the ILEC infrastructure since the ACT passed. Now they are being told to build/buy their own facilities or pay less discounted rates to the incumbent. Sate Regulatory Commissions have differing rules for CLEC's still, but it's still a way to make money as Frame Relay never died, but MPLS is picking up speed. Business services are still the bread and butter of Verizon and AT&T, don't forget it. -Dee > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the > consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more > streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive > envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get > counsel. > > > > -Dee > > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > > 1(907)349-4308 Office > > www.akwireless.net > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Mac Dearman > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:33:45 -0800 > > Subject: > > RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > > > > > > > >> George, > >> > >> It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to > >> exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated > with > >> the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally > figured > >> out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a > fiber > >> connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and > >> T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a > PRI > >> short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion > of > >> this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of > the > >> world. > >> > >> I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know > Bell > >> South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder > what > >> the deal is! > >> > >> > >> Mac > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of George Rogato > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:37 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services > >>> > >>> I'm sure Peter can help, but I'm curious why the clec doesn't know these > >>> things, aren't they a facilities based clec with interconection > >>> agreement with the ilec? > >>> > >>> George > >>> > >>> Rick Harnish wrote: > >>> > >>>> Peter is no longer suspended and I agree with Mac! > >>>> > >>>> Rick Harnish > >>>> President > >>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > >>>> 260-827-2482 > >>>> Founding Member of WISPA > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>>> Behalf Of Mac Dearman > >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:45 PM > >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > >>>> > >>>> Doug, > >>>> > >>>
Re: [WISPA] Best Linux desktop
Tough to beat my Mac Duo Core laptop but. If you are going to run Linux as a desktop, get a fast processors, at least 2Gigs of RAM and then here are the best options to run MS apps: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/ http://www.win4lin.com/ (long URL) http://info.vmware.com/content/GLP_VMwareWkstn?urlcode=Google_Products_Workstation&gclid=CJqT5PTVkIwCFRGCGgodZQ_iBA -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Erik Jansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:06:11 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] Best Linux desktop > A little of topic but I know there are a bunch of linux people out there. > > I'm attempting to use windoze as little a possible and want to move to a > good linux desktop. Unfortunately many of my programs are windows based > so live switching if possible would be nice. I here that Wine runs > windoze stuff pretty well, any feed back would be great. I'm no linux > guru so something that is easy to work with and learn. > > Thanks > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Hi Folks, As a Diamond Reseller for Barracuda Networks, we take the pain out of dealing with issues the best we can for our customers. The issue of selling a used Barracuda is like a lot of hardware vendors. It varies on which entity you are dealing with as to the answer you will get. We move customers off Postini regularly due to issues they have them, so it depends what side of the coin you are looking at. (Only the experienced walk with a limp) We also take the pain of ownership out for folks and filter e-mail for WISP's as they frequently need a lower cost solution. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:37:14 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > Barracuda should offer a "buy back" option for people who purchase directly > from them then. This don't make sense - It basically takes a peice of > equipment and renders it absolutely useless if you choose not to use it any > longer.. Very Very Very crappy approach to doing business and I guess > now that it is public - it's going to cost them more with their stupid > policy then it was worth putting in their agreement. > > JohnnyO > - Original Message - > From: "Ross Cornett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > > > > Well, my first contact to Barracuda was exactly that. I am diggin in > > deeper to better understand their policy. But, they did tell me they will > > > not support a device that they did not sell directly. > > > > Wow, that is hidden deep into their users agreement. Since you have to > > agree to it to use it, you are bound by it... I will update the list if I > > find any better answer. > > > > Ross > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > > > > > >>I think what Dave was trying to make a point about was that folks at > >>Barracuda acted as if selling used hardware to others may not allow the > >>new owner to purchase updates, maintenance, etc. Dave talked to them, I > >>did not. The impression was that they would not support second-hand > >>hardware. It might be a good idea for you, Ross, to make a call to > >>Barracuda and see what the terms would be for update support for a new > >>owner of this unit before you sell it. At least then you would be able to > >>tell a new potential owner what to expect as far as costs to continue > >>support for the unit. The Barracuda units do work but if you do not buy > >>support agreements for updates and such then it is useless. The unit can > >>be good as new and not worth a nickel if the manufacturer will not support > > >>it with new spam and virus signature updates. > >> > >> There is no way you would know any of this, Ross. We have had a bad > >> experience with Barracuda regarding used hardware. That was all that was > >> being cautioned here. If you find out what the terms are for transferring > > >> used hardware to new owners I would like to know what you find. > >> Scriv > >> > >> > >> Ross Cornett wrote: > >> > >>> understand... THis is in great shape. WE used it for 2 months... > >>> couldn't stand the cryout from the customers that were so used to > >>> Postini. > >>> > >>> thanks. > >>> - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > >>> > >>> > Ross Cornett wrote: > > > I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. > > Switched > > from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. > > Had to go back to postini. > > > > So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal > > > Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda > first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked > up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate > it > or provide me service, as it was second-hand. > > There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but > I > got the impression that they don't like dealing with "used" units, > period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may > want > to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track > update subscriptions and whatnot.) > > David Smith > MVN.net > -- > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://list
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross, Who did you buy that unit from? If you boaught it from a reseller, please contact them if you haven't yet. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:23:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... > > Ross > > - Original Message - > From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:16 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > > > > Ross Cornett wrote: > > > >> No buy > >> back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try > >> to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. > > > > Dude, I'll totally give you fifty bucks for it. > > > > (I'm serious.) > > > > If you're not interested in using it as a Barracuda, hey, it's still a > > decent 1U rackmount PC. Pop it open, connect a CD or DVD drive, install > > your favorite Linux or BSD, call it a server. > > > > David Smith > > MVN>net > > -- > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Hi Frank, I was not saying anything for or against you, Postini or Barracuda. If you you took offense at my statements, my apologies. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net Barracuda Networks Diamond Reseller Imagestream Router & WAN Cards Force10 Networks Reseller - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:55:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email > As a PAYING supporting vendor of WISPA and co-sponsor for ISPCON, I take > offense to this direct marketing of a competitive service. Last I looked on > the WISPA website, neither Barracuda or Alaska Wireless Systems had a logo > displayed, unless you are a paid associate vendor. > > > Frank Muto > President > FSM Marketing Group, Inc > Postini Partner Reseller > www.SecureEmailPlus.com > > ISPCON Spring 2007 > May 23-25 in Orlando, FL. > LaunchPad Pavilion J > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > As a Diamond Reseller for Barracuda Networks, we take the pain out of > > dealing with issues the best we can for our customers. The issue of > > selling a used Barracuda is like a lot of hardware vendors. It varies on > > which entity you are dealing with as to the answer you will get. > > > > We move customers off Postini regularly due to issues they have them, so > > it depends what side of the coin you are looking at. (Only the experienced > > > walk with a limp) > > > > We also take the pain of ownership out for folks and filter e-mail for > > WISP's as they frequently need a lower cost solution. > > > > Cheers, > > -Dee > > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > > 1(907)349-4308 Office > > www.akwireless.net > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:30:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? > ...and you can put out fires as long as the water tank is filled and you > know how to operate the pump panel (and you are preserving a piece of > Americana) > And the list goes, like rescue cats, save kids, put up birthday banners, etc. Putting up Christmas lights would most likely get the most requests up here. :-) > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > Low mileage, great maintenance! > > marlon > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 4:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? > > > > > >> I remember Mike Delp talking about having a fire truck. > >> > >> Advantages of a fire truck over a standard bucket truck (other than > >> coolness)? > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - From: "Michael J. Erskine" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:28 PM > >> Subject: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? > >> > >> > >>> I just figured I'd show you folks that want a bucket truck an > >>> interesting idea that we have already exploited: > >>> > >>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FIRE-TRUCK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63733QQihZ006QQitemZ160124248487QQrdZ1 > > >>> > >>> > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Board in Place
- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:19:22 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] New Board in Place > I just left the WISPA Board of Directors meeting. We inducted new members > and elected new officers. Congrats to Matt Larsen on his promotion to > President of WISPA. Matt has served as vice-president since the beginning > and we all know he will do a great job as our new leader! Rick Harnish was > promoted to Vice-President. He served as our secretary since we were nothing > but an ad hoc committee trying to form WISPA. Mac Dearman is our new > Secretary as well as being one of our 2 new directors. Jack Unger is now an > official director for WISPA. I have been elected to the position of > Treasurer. So here is the new lineup for WISPA's Board of Directors: > > Matt Larsen - President > Rick Harnish - Vice-President > Mac Dearman - Secretary > John Scrivner - Treasurer > George Rogato - Director > Jack Unger - Director > Tom DeReggi - Director > > I am proud to serve all of you once again and look forward to working with > our new board. > All the best, > John Scrivner > Thanks John, Congratulations to Matt also, as he will be a great President for WISPA. Glad to hear the new board is in place. Regards, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Sherianne Mabry
What is the information required to get $$$ into the correct account for Jeff though? Thanks Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: CHUCK PROFITO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:34:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Sherianne Mabry > > A City National Bank www.cnb-metropolis.com > 423 Ferry St, Metropolis, 62960 - (618) 524-2161 > Get directions - More information > B City National Bank www.cnb-metropolis.com > 2070 E 5th St, Metropolis, 62960 - (618) 524-2162 > Get directions - More information > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:26 PM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sherianne Mabry > > > John, > > Please convey our deepest sympathy to Jeff. What a rotten event. > > Can you give us an address/phone number for the bank? I'll have Mary send a > > check to help with Jeff's upcoming expenses for the kids. > > sincerely, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "John Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:10 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Sherianne Mabry > > > For those of you who know Jeff Mabry, I wanted to let you know about a > tragedy which occured earlier this week. Jeff's wife, Sherianne Mabry > was killed in a car accident on Monday. Please join me in extending > your thoughts and prayers to Jeff and his family during this very difficult > time. Please see below for information about the funeral services and > memorial fund. > > Visitation will be Thursday night starting at 5:00 pm at Milner & Orr in > Lone Oak, KY. Funeral will be at the Central Church of Christ in Paducah, KY > on Friday at 11:00 am. Visitation will begin at 9:00 am. Instead of flowers > and plants for the services Jeff has requested donations for a fund that is > being set up in Sherianne's name (At City National Bank in Metropolis, IL) > for Jeff's two small children, Hannah and Aaron. > > John > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax
Good question Sam, up here it's all NextNet so it sounds to me, more journalism that is erroneous. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:27:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax > Can anyone confirm 232,000 WiMAX customers for Clearwire? I could > believe total customers, but I would think that the majority of those > would be using NextNet equipment and not WiMax. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > Felix A. Lopez wrote: > > Carl, Regarding your question, my understanding is a > > few of us wireless practioneers blog on various wimax > > sites in relation to WISP and enterprise. My subject > > matter expertise relates to utility applicaitons and > > munis. Many of these sectors are evaluating WiMax and > > WiFi for certain mobile and connectivity appilcations > > - mobile workforce, utility metering, SCADA, IP > > enabled utility services. But for For genral > > information on installations, take a look at the > > following study provided by Maravedis at www.wimax.com > > Please note my quotation marks in respect to the > > author of the report: Adelane Fellah, CEO and founder > > of Maravedis: > > > > "By the end of Q1 2007, the 110 operators in our > > (Maravedis) industry-leading WiMAXCounts Â-- theWiMAX > > Operators Tracking Service Â-- accounted for nearly 1 > > million WiMAX subscribers. A total of 150,000 > > subscribers were added over the first quarter of 2007, > > for 17.5% quarterly growth. The year-over-year growth > > in Q1 2007 was 85%. > > > > The United States, Spain, and Australia are the top > > three countries in number of subscribers. In Q1 2007 > > they had 0.5 million WiMAX subscribers. The operators > > with the most WiMAX subscribers within a single region > > in Q1 2007 are Clearwire (US), with a customer base of > > 232,000; Unwired Australia, with more than 63,500; > > Iberbanda (Spain), with over 40,000; and MVS Mexico > > (ClearwireÂ's partner in Mexico), with 35,000 (this > > last figure is from Q4 2006). > > > > http://www.wimax.com/commentary/blog/blog-2007/a-paranoid-industry > > > > Felix Lopez > > Wireless Practioneer > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion
- Original Message - From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:38:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > The bad thing about Google's wholesale push is this: > > We asked for bidding credits and CMA sized blocks in the upper and lower > 700 MHz bands in the upcoming auction. If Google gets their way then the > upper blocks will NOT be CMA sized and will have wholesale requirements > attached. I can see some of the bigger players sidestepping the larger > wholesale-crippled spectrum in order to outbid all of us in the lower > CMA sized blocks. In those blocks there will likely be no wholesale > requirements. End result? We cannot afford to outbid them and we lose a > shot at these bands for our own use. I have never seen a wholesale model > for a communications platform that worked. I doubt it will work this > time either. I see this as a lose - lose for us if Google gets what they > want. I hope I am wrong. > Scriv > > Hi John, Yes indeed, big cash boys will be the driver in 700MHz side, sure wish it was designated for the WISP folks directly so that we could see some real innovation. If Google wins, the spectrum will be tied up for a long time with little on no use right away. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > Oh man. This from anyone in the cellular industry! > > > > sigh > > > > I do, however, agree with his point. Goggle could just do that if > > they win the spectrum. This is clearly an attempt to devalue the > > spectrum. Not that that's a bad thing. Clearly we've seen that the > > spectrum tax, oh excuse me, auction, is a market place failure as far > > as broadband goes. > > marlon > > > > - Original Message - From: "Drew Lentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'WISPA General List'" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:24 AM > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > > > > > >> Just to throw another log on, here's the CTIA's approach: > >> > >> WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--CTIA-The Wireless AssociationR President > >> and > >> CEO Steve Largent issued the following statement today in response to a > >> letter from Google to the Federal Communications Commission asking for > >> special conditions in the upcoming 700 MHz spectrum auction, and > >> pledging to > >> bid at least $4.6 billion for that spectrum if Google's conditions > >> are met: > >> > >> "The veil has been lifted. Google's letter to the FCC this morning > >> highlights the Internet giant's scheme to have the 700 MHz auction > >> rigged > >> with special conditions in its favor. If Google is willing to commit > >> almost > >> $5 billion dollars for spectrum that it wants encumbered with various > >> requirements, then let it win that spectrum in a competitive auction and > >> choose that business model. Google and its allies, with their collective > >> market capitalization approaching half a trillion dollars, don't need a > >> government handout at taxpayers' expense. The competitive wireless > >> industry > >> welcomes all new entrants, but no company should be able to buy a > >> custom-fit > >> government regulation that suits their particular business plan. > >> Consumers > >> should decide if they're right, not the federal government." > >> > >> CTIA is the international association for the wireless > >> telecommunications > >> industry, representing carriers, manufacturers and wireless Internet > >> providers. > >> > >> > >> Drew Lentz > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Smith, Rick > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:21 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > >> > >> Rumors of Embarq pulling fiber in NW NJ. I'm trying to figure this one > >> out, > >> since it's home for me :) > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Peter R. > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:48 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > >> > >> Smith, Rick wrote: > >>> I can tell you for a fact that Embarq and Verizon have 700 Mhz > >>> and FTTP on their radar BIG time. > >>> > >>> It's that whole "battle vs. war" thing... They're willing to > >>> get their heads handed to them 9 times because that 10th is > >>> their nuke... > >>> > >>> OK I've gotta throw away this devil's advocate hat... > >> EMBARQ? Hesse said that he was betting on the DSL game. Where does > >> Embarq do FTTx? > >> > >> VZ and AT&T are spending the money for FTTx - but not in rural America. > >> (Maybe that's where 700 comes in, but I think the 700
