[WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
That's just crazy money. I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here. I decided to just look for some land. With that kind of money it just makes sense to own and not lease around here. I have 3 towers in storage but have been hesitant to do much with them. Thanks for the response. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
411, with an atheros card, won't pick up non-atheros noise. Canopy SMs on the other hand will. AWESOME spectrum analyzer tools. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Hah... Just wait. They will need to know exactly what brand of antenna, case, and even cat5e you are using. Randy Robert West wrote: I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Add to that installation and maintenance. Crown requires you use approved contractors Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:21:24 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I need to hang a pac grid and a MT 411 board and run a cat5 line up to it. Seems like an engineering study is way overkill! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I have found the leasing relatively cheap. The expensive parts are the engineering studies, application fees, and the almost-impossible-to-afford insurance you'll need before putting anything on the tower. FWIW, Crown Castle is offering a Wispa discount. They are waiving the site application fees for WISPA members (around $1000 per site IIRC). Wispa sent out an ad 8/21 about it. I'd copy it here, but it was all included in a bunch of awful image files. Randy Robert West wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Not too mention the fee for this and the fee for that and the feet dragging and the fee they tell you about while you are installing and the fact that your climbers have to certified by them and... Never again will I lease from Crown. Robert West wrote: That's just crazy money. I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here. I decided to just look for some land. With that kind of money it just makes sense to own and not lease around here. I have 3 towers in storage but have been hesitant to do much with them. Thanks for the response. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.111/2386 - Release Date: 09/21/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Crown Castle is one of the worst companies (think ATT) I have ever dealt with. They dont know their right hand from the left. Dont expect anything to get done, especially billing. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
For everyone's info I have had a terrible experience with CrowneCastle as well. However, you need to be aware that CrowneCastle is Now a Vendor Member Of WISPA as of a few weeks ago. They were giving WISPA discounts at many levels. Look into this if you are interested in dealing with them. They have an account manager For WISPA Members. This is another Benefit of being a WISPA member. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Crown Castle is one of the worst companies (think ATT) I have ever dealt with. They dont know their right hand from the left. Dont expect anything to get done, especially billing. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Well, early on it was a pain to deal with them, but after working with them now we've been able to get things moving a little faster but cost can suck. The engineering fee is BS but they won't budge on it; that will set you back about $1800. Plus you need $10 Mil in liability insurance if you install yourself (barring you have a certified tower climber). We just hire a tower climbing company instead, but that's not cheap either, usually $2000 for the day to have two climbers (which they require). Expect up to 90 days before anything substantial happens through in terms of paper work...they are extremely before approving a site! As for monthly rental fee that is reasonable, we pay anywhere from $500 to $800 depending on the location. On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:33 -0400, RickG wrote: Crown Castle is one of the worst companies (think ATT) I have ever dealt with. They dont know their right hand from the left. Dont expect anything to get done, especially billing. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here Depend on the location. In my town, it will cost $17,000 minimum just for the first phase of a special exception process with County Zoning. Then what if you need to get up 300-400ft? 300-400ft towers are way more expensive to build, and to get permission to build. And in this county a lot large enough to qualify for a tower cant be had for anything less than about $500k. The county property tax alone for the site would easilly be $8000/year. Sure if you live in remote rural America, where a lot can be had for $4-5K, and 150ft tower will do, where there is no one that can see the tower except for the people that NEED your service, (so no one to protest), sure building your own may be the way to go. But if you live in that type area, you can use that arguement to negotiate a lower price for colocation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing That's just crazy money. I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here. I decided to just look for some land. With that kind of money it just makes sense to own and not lease around here. I have 3 towers in storage but have been hesitant to do much with them. Thanks for the response. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
Yeah, here it's just a 500 buck inspection fee for a communications tower. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here Depend on the location. In my town, it will cost $17,000 minimum just for the first phase of a special exception process with County Zoning. Then what if you need to get up 300-400ft? 300-400ft towers are way more expensive to build, and to get permission to build. And in this county a lot large enough to qualify for a tower cant be had for anything less than about $500k. The county property tax alone for the site would easilly be $8000/year. Sure if you live in remote rural America, where a lot can be had for $4-5K, and 150ft tower will do, where there is no one that can see the tower except for the people that NEED your service, (so no one to protest), sure building your own may be the way to go. But if you live in that type area, you can use that arguement to negotiate a lower price for colocation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing That's just crazy money. I can put up a used 160' tower for 2 grand plus a 500 buck permit here. I decided to just look for some land. With that kind of money it just makes sense to own and not lease around here. I have 3 towers in storage but have been hesitant to do much with them. Thanks for the response. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+. For a single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo. -Kevin On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing
There was a time when that was the case... But Crown has evolved in recent years, and their staff as well are learning more about the value of the WISP market, and what costs our market will bear. For me Crown has been a pleasure to work with. Just like any relationship, to get good terms, it requires an established ongoing relationship, and committment from both parties to create value for the other party. In my opinion, the secret is putting yourself in their shoes and understanding their position for each transaction. By understanding teh dynamics of the site, it helps determine what things can be asked for or not successfully. Admitted, the process is very slow, (and there fore sometimes frustrating), but from our experience the process with all tower companies has been slow, so that is an irrelevent factor. And if you are in teh wholesale business, you WANT the process to be slow, and you dont want a leasor that gives everyone else as good of terms as they give you, since you have the ongoing relationship. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing Crown Castle is one of the worst companies (think ATT) I have ever dealt with. They dont know their right hand from the left. Dont expect anything to get done, especially billing. -RickG On 9/21/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle? I have a cell tower in an area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot for us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it. Any idea what they charge and issues with them? Looks to be a big company so I doubt they will lease cheaply. Thanks! Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
