Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-07 Thread Tracy Tippett
PC Tel (Maxrad) makes very good antennas and they stand behind them.  I have 
sold them to many clients with very few issues ever.  The Laird (Pac Wireless) 
products also seem to have a very low complaint rate.  Please note this is the 
opinion of a supplier not an installer but, I do hear from a lot of people.  
The MTI product is also a high quality choice.  

Note: One of my clients has started using plexi-glass covers to replace 
original material on the Pac Wireless product.  A simple flat piece installed 
with silicone.  Hope this helps
Tracy Tippett
www.tracanllc.com


--Original Mail--
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thu, 06 May 2010 17:33:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.   
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

MTI is damn good quality.


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On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
 over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

 I prefer goo quality. :)

 I'll give it a look to be sure.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.



 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-
 micro.com  wrote:

  
 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
 because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
 what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
 noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
 cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
 quality if it's deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-07 Thread MDK
If you keep the signal levels up, so that the data rates stay up (all stay 
above -73), you can move about 6-8 mbit in a 5 mhz channel at 900.

I've been using UBNT radios and star-os to drive them. 900 mhz is VERY 
prone to interference,  the RSSI levels are hugely affected by weather, 
humidity, and things like snow on the ground. Snow raises my client's 
RSSI by anywhere from 5 for the strongest to over 20 db for the weakest. 
Clients that are -82 in the summer are -60 or so in the winter - when 
there's snow on the ground.Just raining, and then falling below freezing 
will do a 3-8 db gain in RSSI.

As you say, OFDM at 900 Mhz is one fascinating exercise.


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Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited!

 




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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Hammett
MTI is damn good quality.


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On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
 over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

 I prefer goo quality. :)

 I'll give it a look to be sure.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.



 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-
 micro.com  wrote:

  
 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
 because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
 what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
 noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
 cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
 quality if it's deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the 
ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.

UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 MTI is damn good quality.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
 over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

 I prefer goo quality. :)

 I'll give it a look to be sure.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.



 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-
 micro.com  wrote:


 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
 because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
 what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
 noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
 cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
 quality if it's deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-06 Thread Robert West
Oh, hell yes, my brother!


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited!

On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good.  Looks like the
 ca$h is well worth it.  Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent.

 UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets..

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 MTI is damn good quality.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and
 over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

 I prefer goo quality. :)

 I'll give it a look to be sure.

 Bob-


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.



 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-
 micro.com  wrote:


 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
 because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
 what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
 noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
 cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
 quality if it's deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd argue that the Yagis would not have a narrow enough verticle beamwidth, 
and Downtilt would be hard to get right, and/or to much energy wasted 
getting directed in the wrong verticle directions, thus being less efficent 
than a panel. But I guess it would depend on the needs of where deploying.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


It's canopy - 8mhz channels.  He is using ONE radio for all three antennas.

Works like an omni and does a good job.

On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or
 not either.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz
 H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

 I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is
 doing it.  It was suggested to me a few months ago.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
 that counts.
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 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage
 with
 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you?

 Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload
 on
 the tower is too much and looking for alternatives.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol
 SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

 SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique
 patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would
 love

 to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer...
 1)
 They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar 
 gain.
 For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector
 antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and
 still have them perform well.  These are great for repeaters, where there
 is

 a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the
 ground
 where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable.

 Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else
 in

 this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an
 antenna that matches their specific need.  SuperPass is NOT a MTI 
 antenna,
 they really serve two different market segments.

 MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass
 antenna.  Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most
 cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of
 the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the
 MTI
 makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the
 perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness.

 In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like
 them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop 
 on
 beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats 
 easy
 to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find
 Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other
 good sources.   The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. 
 I
 dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, 
 also
 comes size.  This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg.
 (Thats

 not exact db spec)

 There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use
 the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people 
 using
 Canopy  are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector.

 When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to
 colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees.
 With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity
 colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels),
 fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very 

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-05-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Note... Teletronics also makes/carries a Horizontal 900Mhz 120deg sector, 
priced competitively. We were in a crunch for antennas quickly, so since 
Teletronics was local to us, we gave them a try (instead of waiting for 
Tilteks). After all was said and done, the Teletronic antennas actually 
worked very well for us.  In that deployment, we had the antennas on 
opposite sides of large dirt hill, so I cant comment on their F/B isolation 
for colocating them. But it performed as spec'd and.was very durable.  These 
were a bit more sleak, meaning uniform shaped and not very deep, so 
cosmetically they were less noticeable.

Just another option to consider.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I
almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
 antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
 never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
 great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
 some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
 into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-30 Thread MDK
I looked at what was out there, and decided that most were too expensive and 
worse...  Too large for some sites.

I've used the little  yagi's as sectors and really, for a cheap site, or a 
site you can't install the big antennas, they work reasonably well.Not 
very good front / back ratio, however.

For a site with all the clients in a 100 degree arc, I put up two.They 
don't seem to interfere with each other,  and more importantly, they are 
very small for a housetop access point, and at 6 feet vertical separation, 
they don't seem to have any issues even while using adjoining 5 mhz 
channels.

You get what you pay for, but sometimes that's just what you need.


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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:02 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.

 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
 I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it 
 works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new 
 install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, 
 ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
UBNT works on the Julian calendar.

It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.

LOL!

Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing 
solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?

Bob-

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second 
quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:


From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not 
healthcare, taxes or government related.
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into 
the trees to the CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
I hear ya.  I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and 
over.  Pays 10X in the long run.

I prefer goo quality. :)

I'll give it a look to be sure.

Bob-


- Original Message - 
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz.  I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no
 problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use
 equipment that I don't have to go back to.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-
 micro.com wrote:

 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s).  Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just
 because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses
 what and if it works great.  I've done the Omni path, okay but
 noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4
 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a
 cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top
 quality if it's deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I've had suggestions of MTI's.  They are very expensive anywhere, I
believe.  I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's
super super super super super heavy).

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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 UBNT works on the Julian calendar.

 It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.

 LOL!

 Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
 solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?

 Bob-

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
 quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:


 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
 healthcare, taxes or government related.
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
 never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
 great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
 some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into
 the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB






 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
Agreed.  But I prefer the julian calender explaination.

It's more confusing.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week
 they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products
 fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet 
 demand.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
 UBNT works on the Julian calendar.

 It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.

 LOL!

 Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but 
 nothing
 solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?

 Bob-

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
 quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  wrote:


 From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
 healthcare, taxes or government related.
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because 
 I've
 never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
 great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install 
 needs
 some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
 into
 the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap 
 SOB
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if 
 it's
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Jason Bailey
I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the 
schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake 
the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason   For now,MTI expensive..GET 
what you pay for.

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:


From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM


There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week 
they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products 
fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand.

Regards
Michael Baird
 UBNT works on the Julian calendar.

 It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert.

 LOL!

 Thanks a bunch.  I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing
 solid.  Might be worth the wait.  Like till 2013?

 Bob-

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.
 Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


 Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second
 quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :)


 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  wrote:


 From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not
 healthcare, taxes or government related.
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM


 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector
 antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've
 never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works
 great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs
 some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into
 the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Robert West
Maybe.


- Original Message - 
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. 
Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.


Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? ducking

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector 
 antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've 
 never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works 
 great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs 
 some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , 
 into the trees to the CPEs.

 I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB 
 so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
 deserved.

 Thanks.

 Bob-

 The cheap SOB





 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-29 Thread Scottie Arnett
To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have 
never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more 
Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree 
H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive 
I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the 
consequences later. I sleep better.

Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have 
used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the 
Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could 
have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 
AP's.

If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much 
cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you 
expect less than 20 subs.

Scott 

-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400

I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s).  
Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to 
buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great.  I've done 
the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal 
for 2 to 4 miles.  Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the 
CPEs.

I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so 
it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's 
deserved.

Thanks.

Bob-

The cheap SOB






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