Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
If you keep the signal levels up, so that the data rates stay up (all stay above -73), you can move about 6-8 mbit in a 5 mhz channel at 900. I've been using UBNT radios and star-os to drive them. 900 mhz is VERY prone to interference, the RSSI levels are hugely affected by weather, humidity, and things like "snow on the ground". Snow raises my client's RSSI by anywhere from 5 for the strongest to over 20 db for the weakest. Clients that are -82 in the summer are -60 or so in the winter - when there's snow on the ground.Just raining, and then falling below freezing will do a 3-8 db gain in RSSI. As you say, OFDM at 900 Mhz is one fascinating exercise. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:23 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
PC Tel (Maxrad) makes very good antennas and they stand behind them. I have sold them to many clients with very few issues ever. The Laird (Pac Wireless) products also seem to have a very low complaint rate. Please note this is the opinion of a supplier not an installer but, I do hear from a lot of people. The MTI product is also a high quality choice. Note: One of my clients has started using plexi-glass covers to replace original material on the Pac Wireless product. A simple flat piece installed with silicone. Hope this helps Tracy Tippett www.tracanllc.com --Original Mail-- From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thu, 06 May 2010 17:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: > I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and > over. Pays 10X in the long run. > > I prefer goo quality. :) > > I'll give it a look to be sure. > > Bob- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeremie Chism" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > > >> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no >> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use >> equipment that I don't have to go back to. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"> micro.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >>> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just >>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses >>> what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but >>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 >>> miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >>> >>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a >>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top >>> quality if it's deserved. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> The cheap SOB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Oh, hell yes, my brother! - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West wrote: > I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the > ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. > > UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. > > Bob- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > >> MTI is damn good quality. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: >>> I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and >>> over. Pays 10X in the long run. >>> >>> I prefer goo quality. :) >>> >>> I'll give it a look to be sure. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jeremie Chism" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. >>> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no >>>> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use >>>> equipment that I don't have to go back to. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West">>> micro.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >>>>> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just >>>>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses >>>>> what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but >>>>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 >>>>> miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >>>>> >>>>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a >>>>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top >>>>> quality if it's deserved. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Bob- >>>>> >>>>> The cheap SOB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wan
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > MTI is damn good quality. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: >> I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and >> over. Pays 10X in the long run. >> >> I prefer goo quality. :) >> >> I'll give it a look to be sure. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeremie Chism" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. >> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. >> >> >> >>> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no >>> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use >>> equipment that I don't have to go back to. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West">> micro.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >>>> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just >>>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses >>>> what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but >>>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 >>>> miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >>>> >>>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a >>>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top >>>> quality if it's deserved. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Bob- >>>> >>>> The cheap SOB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: > I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and > over. Pays 10X in the long run. > > I prefer goo quality. :) > > I'll give it a look to be sure. > > Bob- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeremie Chism" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > > >> Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no >> problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use >> equipment that I don't have to go back to. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"> micro.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >>> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just >>> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses >>> what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but >>> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 >>> miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >>> >>> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a >>> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top >>> quality if it's deserved. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> The cheap SOB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I'd argue that the Yagis would not have a narrow enough verticle beamwidth, and Downtilt would be hard to get right, and/or to much energy wasted getting directed in the wrong verticle directions, thus being less efficent than a panel. But I guess it would depend on the needs of where deploying. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. It's canopy - 8mhz channels. He is using ONE radio for all three antennas. Works like an omni and does a good job. On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or > not either. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz > H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is > doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > >> Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage > with >> 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? >> >> Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload >> on >> the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM >> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol >> SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. >> >> SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique >> patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would >> love >> >> to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... > 1) >> They tend to make it possible to make "shorter" antennas for similar >> gain. >> For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector >> antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and >> still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there >> is >> >> a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the > ground >> where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. >> >> Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else >> in >> >> this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an >> antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI >> antenna, >> they really serve two different market segments. >> >> MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass >> antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most >> cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of >> the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the > MTI >> makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the >> perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. >> >> In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like >> them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop >> on >> beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats >> easy >> to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find >> Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other >> good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. >> I >> dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again,
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Note... Teletronics also makes/carries a Horizontal 900Mhz 120deg sector, priced competitively. We were in a crunch for antennas quickly, so since Teletronics was local to us, we gave them a try (instead of waiting for Tilteks). After all was said and done, the Teletronic antennas actually worked very well for us. In that deployment, we had the antennas on opposite sides of large dirt hill, so I cant comment on their F/B isolation for colocating them. But it performed as spec'd and.was very durable. These were a bit more sleak, meaning uniform shaped and not very deep, so cosmetically they were less noticeable. Just another option to consider. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West wrote: > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've > never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works > great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs > some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , > into the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I looked at what was out there, and decided that most were too expensive and worse... Too large for some sites. I've used the little yagi's as "sectors" and really, for a cheap site, or a site you can't install the big antennas, they work reasonably well.Not very good front / back ratio, however. For a site with all the clients in a 100 degree arc, I put up two.They don't seem to interfere with each other, and more importantly, they are very small for a housetop access point, and at 6 feet vertical separation, they don't seem to have any issues even while using adjoining 5 mhz channels. You get what you pay for, but sometimes that's just what you need. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Robert West" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:02 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because > I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it > works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new > install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, > ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 AP's. If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you expect less than 20 subs. Scott -- Original Message -- From: "Robert West" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400 >I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). >Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to >buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done >the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal >for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the >CPEs. > >I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so >it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's >deserved. > >Thanks. > >Bob- > >The cheap SOB > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Maybe. - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West wrote: > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've > never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works > great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs > some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , > into the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird wrote: From: Michael Baird Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: "WISPA General List" Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird > UBNT works on the Julian calendar. > > It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. > > LOL! > > Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing > solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? > > Bob- > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Bailey" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > > Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second > quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) > > > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote: > > > From: Robert West > Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not > healthcare, taxes or government related. > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM > > > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've > never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works > great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs > some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into > the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Agreed. But I prefer the julian calender explaination. It's more confusing. - Original Message - From: "Michael Baird" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week > they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products > fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet > demand. > > Regards > Michael Baird >> UBNT works on the Julian calendar. >> >> It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. >> >> LOL! >> >> Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but >> nothing >> solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? >> >> Bob- >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Jason Bailey" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. >> Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. >> >> >> Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second >> quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) >> >> >> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote: >> >> >> From: Robert West >> Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not >> healthcare, taxes or government related. >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM >> >> >> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because >> I've >> never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works >> great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install >> needs >> some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , >> into >> the trees to the CPEs. >> >> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap >> SOB >> so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if >> it's >> deserved. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Bob- >> >> The cheap SOB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird > UBNT works on the Julian calendar. > > It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. > > LOL! > > Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing > solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? > > Bob- > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Bailey" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > > Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second > quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) > > > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote: > > > From: Robert West > Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not > healthcare, taxes or government related. > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM > > > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've > never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works > great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs > some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into > the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've had suggestions of MTI's. They are very expensive anywhere, I believe. I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's super super super super super heavy). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West wrote: > UBNT works on the Julian calendar. > > It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. > > LOL! > > Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing > solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? > > Bob- > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Bailey" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. > Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > > > Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second > quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) > > > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote: > > > From: Robert West > Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not > healthcare, taxes or government related. > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM > > > I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector > antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've > never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works > great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs > some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into > the trees to the CPEs. > > I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB > so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's > deserved. > > Thanks. > > Bob- > > The cheap SOB > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. > Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no > problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use > equipment that I don't have to go back to. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West" micro.com> wrote: > >> I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector >> antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just >> because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses >> what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but >> noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 >> miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. >> >> I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a >> cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top >> quality if it's deserved. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Bob- >> >> The cheap SOB >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: "Jason Bailey" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West wrote: From: Robert West Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: "WISPA General List" Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/