Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
support, unless it was added recently.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco 
VLAN help)


 One question I really would love to hear the answer to..

 What version of 3.x are you using (if any) on those multi core/processor
 Mikrotiks?

 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 --- Henry Spencer


 On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I didn't want to hijack Travis's Cisco thread, but wanted to throw in my
 .02
 regarding MikroTik as a core router.


 We began running MikroTik as a core router sometime back in 2004 when our
 Cisco VXR DS3 router started to struggle.  We purchased a couple LMC DS3
 NICs from Eje at Wisp-Router and haven't looked back since.

 It was better than three years ago when we bench tested more than 800Mbps
 between MikroTik routers using older Intel Pro fiber NICs and standard
 32bit
 PCI slots.  Over the years we have deployed numerous MikroTik routers 
 with
 24 or more 10/100 Interfaces, and several MikroTik routers with multiple
 Intel GigE Copper and Fiber Interfaces.

 Today our MikroTik routers have evolved to include motherboards with
 multiple PCIe x8  x16 lane expansion slots, Quad core CPUs, 2Gig RAM,
 redundant hot-swap power supplies and multiple six port SFP NICs.  This
 latest generation of MikroTik router we are deploying are extremely fast,
 flexible, cost effective and most importantly reliable.

 The SFP NICs allow us to easily swap Interfaces from Copper GigE to SX
 fiber, LX fiber, ZX Fiber...all hot-swap without requiring the router to 
 be
 powered down or rebooted.  The power supplies are diverse and redundant.
  We
 can lose either power feed or power module or any combination of the two
 and
 still keep the router powered up.

 We are currently peering with three GigE upstream providers with a fourth
 GigE provider being turned up this week for unprecedented capacity and
 diversity for an ISP our size.  We are already exploring and evaluating
 10GigE Interfaces as our requirements continue to increase.  We have no
 reason to believe the MikroTik platform will not continue to deliver the
 exceptional performance we have become accustomed to.

 Every client gets a MikroTik CPE router that we own and manage regardless
 of
 the medium used (microwave, copper, fiber etc.) to deliver their data
 circuit.  A MikroTik as a client CPE router gives us terrific flexibility
 and diagnostic abilities.  MikroTik allows us to provide the detailed
 information required to identify and resolve problems at the client side
 quickly and efficiently.  We have made countless IT Guys heroes in the
 eyes of their employers more times than I care to remember.  grin

 I firmly believe we would not be where we are today, offering the level 
 of
 service we are able to provide without MikroTik at the core of our 
 network.

 Best,


 Brad





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

 We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual
 PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports
 per Router


 Gino A. Villarini
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:38 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

 I answer with a question.  What makes you think they couldn't do 100
 megs?
 I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the
 latest series does 8 gigabits.

 I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've
 heard, VPLS is the way to go.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 P
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

  How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?
 
  On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I like the THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.
 You
  should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels
 though
  :)
 
  --
  * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
 support, unless it was added recently.

Depends on what you call recent...from the changelog:
What's new in v3.0beta1:
*) added initial support for SMP on x86;

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Correct.  The v3.x x86 routers we have running do show multiple CPUs.  For
example we have a handful of 1U servers with dual Xeon 3GHz CPUs deployed as
CPE routers for a few new larger accounts and they show four processors.  We
are running BGP with these accounts and the additional CPU support does make
a notable difference.

For example with a single CPU processor count the Winbox GUI will show 100%
CPU utilization while pulling the approximately 270k routes.  With a two CPU
count the utilization while pulling down full tables is 50% and with a four
CPU count the utilization is 25%.

This chart shows the dual Xeon 3GHz CPU at 1113.  Our most recent x86
MikroTik routers are using the Q9550 CPU at 4076 and the X3360 CPU that
rates at 4251.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Best,


Brad


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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:57 AM
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VLAN help)

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
 support, unless it was added recently.

Depends on what you call recent...from the changelog:
What's new in v3.0beta1:
*) added initial support for SMP on x86;

-- 

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* http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering  *
* http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member   *
* http://blog.butchevans.com/   * Wired or Wireless Networks   *







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