Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote:

 I had a client ask me about this. Does anyone know of software that
 will analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse
 is cheating? I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's a
 scam.

A number of rootkits include keyloggers, and some of the more fancy ones 
reportedly have regular screenshot capability - they'll take screen 
shots once a minute, say, dump 'em in a folder, then when they phone 
home to Botnet Central they'll send the pictures over too, to help the 
attacker identify what Web site that password goes to. (If you 
bookmarked your bank's Web site, it won't show up in the keylogger.)

Of course, that sort of thing tends to set off the anti-virus software, 
and even if you had one that wasn't detected, the software still leaves 
traces. Registry entries so it'll run at startup, logs and maybe 
screenshots stored somewhere on the hard drive. Also, that assumes the 
target is running Windows, probably; a second disk partition or a 
Live-CD of your favorite Linux distribution and your fancy keylogger 
software is useless.

Assuming you can get physical access to the target system, a hardware 
keylogger is the way to go.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=keyloggerx=0y=0
here's a couple of 'em

This does require a couple separate accesses to the target location - 
one to install the keylogger device, and a second one to retrieve it - 
and it's much harder to pass off as an accident if you're compromised. 
With software, you could reasonably pretend it's a virus and that you 
have no knowledge of it; the hardware device, even if you don't know 
what it is, obviously is there for some reason, and is automatically 
much more suspicious.

As with any scenario like this, the best way to proceed depends largely 
upon your target's level of paranoia and expertise. Good luck!

David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Alex
Go hire a gumshoe. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:51 AM
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Mike Hammett wrote:

 I had a client ask me about this. Does anyone know of software that
 will analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse
 is cheating? I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's a
 scam.

A number of rootkits include keyloggers, and some of the more fancy ones 
reportedly have regular screenshot capability - they'll take screen 
shots once a minute, say, dump 'em in a folder, then when they phone 
home to Botnet Central they'll send the pictures over too, to help the 
attacker identify what Web site that password goes to. (If you 
bookmarked your bank's Web site, it won't show up in the keylogger.)

Of course, that sort of thing tends to set off the anti-virus software, 
and even if you had one that wasn't detected, the software still leaves 
traces. Registry entries so it'll run at startup, logs and maybe 
screenshots stored somewhere on the hard drive. Also, that assumes the 
target is running Windows, probably; a second disk partition or a 
Live-CD of your favorite Linux distribution and your fancy keylogger 
software is useless.

Assuming you can get physical access to the target system, a hardware 
keylogger is the way to go.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=keyloggerx=0y=0
here's a couple of 'em

This does require a couple separate accesses to the target location - 
one to install the keylogger device, and a second one to retrieve it - 
and it's much harder to pass off as an accident if you're compromised. 
With software, you could reasonably pretend it's a virus and that you 
have no knowledge of it; the hardware device, even if you don't know 
what it is, obviously is there for some reason, and is automatically 
much more suspicious.

As with any scenario like this, the best way to proceed depends largely 
upon your target's level of paranoia and expertise. Good luck!

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread David E. Smith
Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe. 

Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new 
ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the home 
network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.

Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their 
CALEA support for something.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Cliff LeBoeuf
Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :)


On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.
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 Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe.
 
 Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new
 ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the home
 network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.
 
 Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their
 CALEA support for something.
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread John Valenti
Personally, as an ISP, I would stay away from this. I'm sure it  
varies by state, but your client could end up in trouble:

http://www.balough.com/news/4182005114.asp

(...Florida appeals court found that spyware installed on a  
cheating husband’s computer by his wife resulted in an illegal  
intercept of communications in violation of a state law...)


On February 27, at 3:40 PM February 27, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I had a client ask me about this.  Does anyone know of software  
 that will analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if  
 their spouse is cheating?  I'm afraid of a Google search giving me  
 something that's a scam.




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread David E. Smith
Chuck McCown wrote:
 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.

That's just crazy talk.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread JohnnyO
Cliff - you don't need to worry about cheating spouse software... I told you 
years ago it was ME who Marsha was seeing on the side..

No need for a GPS tracker either, or camera, or any of that stuff. Anytime 
you want to know where we are, just call ! Anytime you want pics, let me 
know - I'll send you some ! Anytime you wanna see what she's sending me on 
the computer, let me know - I'll forward you the emails !

Muahahahahaha

Your buddy,

JohnnyO

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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :)


 On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:43 AM
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 Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe.

 Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new
 ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the home
 network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.

 Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their
 CALEA support for something.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Cliff - Home
JO,

You may be a legend in your own mind, but she has BIGGER and BETTER things
in her life... :O

CL


On 2/28/08 8:32 PM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cliff - you don't need to worry about cheating spouse software... I told you
 years ago it was ME who Marsha was seeing on the side..
 
 No need for a GPS tracker either, or camera, or any of that stuff. Anytime
 you want to know where we are, just call ! Anytime you want pics, let me
 know - I'll send you some ! Anytime you wanna see what she's sending me on
 the computer, let me know - I'll forward you the emails !
 
 Muahahahahaha
 
 Your buddy,
 
 JohnnyO
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Cliff LeBoeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software
 
 
 Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :)
 
 
 On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software
 
 
 Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe.
 
 Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new
 ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the home
 network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.
 
 Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their
 CALEA support for something.
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Tim Kerns
Try this link, it is not software to track cheating spouse, but it will 
track a cell phone... just put in a number.

http://www.sat-gps-locate.com/english/index.html

Tim
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 JO,

 You may be a legend in your own mind, but she has BIGGER and BETTER things
 in her life... :O

 CL


 On 2/28/08 8:32 PM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cliff - you don't need to worry about cheating spouse software... I told 
 you
 years ago it was ME who Marsha was seeing on the side..

 No need for a GPS tracker either, or camera, or any of that stuff. 
 Anytime
 you want to know where we are, just call ! Anytime you want pics, let me
 know - I'll send you some ! Anytime you wanna see what she's sending me 
 on
 the computer, let me know - I'll forward you the emails !

 Muahahahahaha

 Your buddy,

 JohnnyO

 - Original Message -
 From: Cliff LeBoeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :)


 On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe.

 Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new
 ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the 
 home
 network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.

 Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their
 CALEA support for something.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Mike Delp
That was great.

Thanks Tim.

Mike

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Try this link, it is not software to track cheating spouse, but it will 
track a cell phone... just put in a number.

http://www.sat-gps-locate.com/english/index.html

Tim
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- Original Message - 
From: Cliff - Home [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 JO,

 You may be a legend in your own mind, but she has BIGGER and BETTER things
 in her life... :O

 CL


 On 2/28/08 8:32 PM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cliff - you don't need to worry about cheating spouse software... I told 
 you
 years ago it was ME who Marsha was seeing on the side..

 No need for a GPS tracker either, or camera, or any of that stuff. 
 Anytime
 you want to know where we are, just call ! Anytime you want pics, let me
 know - I'll send you some ! Anytime you wanna see what she's sending me 
 on
 the computer, let me know - I'll forward you the emails !

 Muahahahahaha

 Your buddy,

 JohnnyO

 - Original Message -
 From: Cliff LeBoeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 Oh! ... I learn SO much from this organization... :)


 On 2/28/08 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Implantable GPS locator/ heart-rate monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software


 Alex wrote:
 Go hire a gumshoe.

 Hide a webcam in the ceiling (or under the bed or...) One of the new
 ones with built-in Web interface and wi-fi. Have it connect to the 
 home
 network, forward a couple ports, spy on the spouse from the office.

 Or set up a Mikrotik to intercept/log traffic. Might as well use their
 CALEA support for something.

 David Smith
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[WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I had a client ask me about this.  Does anyone know of software that will 
analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse is 
cheating?  I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's a scam.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-27 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/

I used to catch kids doing bad things with this at a k20 I worked at.

ryan

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I had a client ask me about this.  Does anyone know of software that will
analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse is
cheating?  I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's a scam.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-27 Thread Jason Hensley
Have used Spector Pro from these guys: http://www.spectorsoft.com/

We have put it onto a few of our clients computers to spy on their kids. 

I've also used KeyLogger mentioned below.  not quite as good as the Spector
software though.
 

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http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/

I used to catch kids doing bad things with this at a k20 I worked at.

ryan

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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

I had a client ask me about this.  Does anyone know of software that will
analyze a computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse is
cheating?  I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's a scam.


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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-27 Thread WWS2
I used Spector Pro also until my geek son upgraded to 64 bit.  Was  
excellent.  Schools recommend it to parents highly.
 
Walter
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2008 4:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have  used Spector Pro from these guys: http://www.spectorsoft.com/

We have  put it onto a few of our clients computers to spy on their kids. 

I've  also used KeyLogger mentioned below.  not quite as good as the  Spector
software though.


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Behalf Of  D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:53 PM
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http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/

I used to catch kids  doing bad things with this at a k20 I worked  at.

ryan

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From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of  Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:41 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

I had a client  ask me about this.  Does anyone know of software that will
analyze a  computer to assist someone in determining if their spouse  is
cheating?  I'm afraid of a Google search giving me something that's  a scam.


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