Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications
OK, so how is airspace measured? Is it 3-imensional? Maybe we can claim that 500ft above sea level is unserved airspace, and does not have a Census block associated with it since its airspace, and qualify the entire US for WISPs :-) By the way... what is the census block for their network? I'd argue it would get disqualified if it does not have one. Unless they took the Flight's paths, and took all census blocks underneight the paths. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "ralph" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications > This: > > "requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely > unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband network." > > Is absolutely ridiculous! > > mail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications
If it's a long flight they could burn some internet to a dual layer DVD. But I thought Bill Curtis already found the internet on the plane with his AT&T netbook and the AT&T G4 network??? I was SURE that's what he told me. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications Yeah for that much they could put the Internet on a disk and take it with them on the plane :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Sep 10, 2009, at 6:24 PM, ralph wrote: > This: > > "requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely > unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband > network." > > Is absolutely ridiculous! > > mail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile ap
I would like a copy ;-) We state we are fixed wireless in our 300 character description: Applicant St. Louis Broadband, LLC Farmington, MO Contact Victoira Proffer 314-974-5600 Project title ShowMe Broadband Program BIP/BTOP Project typeLast Mile Remote Area Grant request* $ 37,222,917 Status Received Description ShowMe Broadband will be a fixed wireless network, encompassing 13 rural counties boarding the New Madrid Fault Zone. We're in an area of geologic vulnerability, an emergency response challenge! Our unique design for a free emergency communications, as well as high speed Internet access for rural areas, is a vital role which is backed by First Responders, like the STL American Red Cross. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. It will be interesting to compare the applications with the money winners. -RickG On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tim Sylvester wrote: > I spent several hours last night and today analyzing the BTOP/BIP applications. WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B. There are a total of 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. This analysis is based on the information provide in the project description and not all of the descriptions listed the last mile technology. In the next couple of weeks, NTIA will publish the executive summaries for the applications which should shed more light on the projects. I downloaded all of the applications into Excel and added a column with the Last Mile technology. Send me e-mail if you would like a copy of the spreadsheet. > > Four tables summarizing the last mile applications are at the bottom of this list. > > Highlights > > - Total of 1130 last mile projects requesting $14.2B. > > - WiMAX was the leading last mile technology with 307 projects requesting $1.6B. > > - Last mile fiber projects requested the most funds with 181 projects requesting $3.7B. > > - The largest grant application was submitted by RADGOV, INC requesting $938,187,772 for public computer centers which is 13% of the entire $7.2B for all three rounds. Also, the total amount allocated to Public Computer Center projects in this round is only $50M. > > - Aircell is requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband network." > > - Digital Bridge submitted 158 applications for WiMAX networks for a total of $154M grant funding and $98M in loans for a total request of $252M. > > - Glen Martin Inc submitted an application for $160M to deploy "two thousand miles of 10 GigE service throughout Missouri." They also submitted 23 applications requesting a total of $252M to deploy wireless (probably Motorola Canopy) broadband in rural Missouri. > > - Castillo Technologies, LLC submitted 17 applications requesting a total of $51M for wireless broadband in rural Arizona. > > - Jedai Network, Inc. submitted 13 applications requesting $45M for deploying broadband in rural Georgia. > > - KeyOn submitted 11 applications for $152M to deploy WiMAX at 3.65GHz in Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota, Nevada, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arkansas and Oklahoma. > > - Flow Mobile submitted 112 applications requesting $23M to deploy "a 4G-like mobile broadband WiFi network." > > - Clear Talk submitted 8 applications requesting $386M to deploy software defined radios initially supporting EVDO Rev. A and upgradeable to WiMAX/LTE. > > - Phalanx Technology Holdings, LLC submitted 5 applications requesting $141M for a fiber network including $92M for Fiber to the home in eastern Iowa. > > - Tower Stream submitted 17 applications requesting $123M to deploy WiMAX. > > - Utopian Wireless Corporation submitted 40 applications requesting $50M to deploy WiMAX. > > - UTAH TELECOMMUNICATION OPEN INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCY submitted 3 applications requesting $57M to deploy "Fiber to the Premises" in Utah. > > Finally, my favorite project description comes from 21st Century Communications, Inc. who is applying for an even $50,000,000 - "Collaboration with Project Kick-Start for Broadband Public Computer Center Expansion [William - add description]." > > Tim > > -- > Tim Sylvester > Avanzar Networks > (408) 826-8350 (o) > (408) 334-1700 (m) > t...@avanzarnetworks.com > > > > ***
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile ap
It will be interesting to compare the applications with the money winners. -RickG On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tim Sylvester wrote: > I spent several hours last night and today analyzing the BTOP/BIP > applications. WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications > requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B. There are a > total of 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. This analysis is > based on the information provide in the project description and not all of > the descriptions listed the last mile technology. In the next couple of > weeks, NTIA will publish the executive summaries for the applications which > should shed more light on the projects. I downloaded all of the applications > into Excel and added a column with the Last Mile technology. Send me e-mail > if you would like a copy of the spreadsheet. > > Four tables summarizing the last mile applications are at the bottom of this > list. > > Highlights > > - Total of 1130 last mile projects requesting $14.2B. > > - WiMAX was the leading last mile technology with 307 projects requesting > $1.6B. > > - Last mile fiber projects requested the most funds with 181 projects > requesting $3.7B. > > - The largest grant application was submitted by RADGOV, INC requesting > $938,187,772 for public computer centers which is 13% of the entire $7.2B for > all three rounds. Also, the total amount allocated to Public Computer Center > projects in this round is only $50M. > > - Aircell is requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the > largely unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband > network." > > - Digital Bridge submitted 158 applications for WiMAX networks for a total of > $154M grant funding and $98M in loans for a total request of $252M. > > - Glen Martin Inc submitted an application for $160M to deploy "two thousand > miles of 10 GigE service throughout Missouri." They also submitted 23 > applications requesting a total of $252M to deploy wireless (probably > Motorola Canopy) broadband in rural Missouri. > > - Castillo Technologies, LLC submitted 17 applications requesting a total of > $51M for wireless broadband in rural Arizona. > > - Jedai Network, Inc. submitted 13 applications requesting $45M for deploying > broadband in rural Georgia. > > - KeyOn submitted 11 applications for $152M to deploy WiMAX at 3.65GHz in > Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota, Nevada, Missouri, Wisconsin, > Minnesota, Arkansas and Oklahoma. > > - Flow Mobile submitted 112 applications requesting $23M to deploy "a 4G-like > mobile broadband WiFi network." > > - Clear Talk submitted 8 applications requesting $386M to deploy software > defined radios initially supporting EVDO Rev. A and upgradeable to WiMAX/LTE. > > - Phalanx Technology Holdings, LLC submitted 5 applications requesting $141M > for a fiber network including $92M for Fiber to the home in eastern Iowa. > > - Tower Stream submitted 17 applications requesting $123M to deploy WiMAX. > > - Utopian Wireless Corporation submitted 40 applications requesting $50M to > deploy WiMAX. > > - UTAH TELECOMMUNICATION OPEN INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCY submitted 3 applications > requesting $57M to deploy "Fiber to the Premises" in Utah. > > Finally, my favorite project description comes from 21st Century > Communications, Inc. who is applying for an even $50,000,000 - "Collaboration > with Project Kick-Start for Broadband Public Computer Center Expansion > [William - add description]." > > Tim > > -- > Tim Sylvester > Avanzar Networks > (408) 826-8350 (o) > (408) 334-1700 (m) > t...@avanzarnetworks.com > > > > > Last Mile Applications with Wireless Detail ($ amounts in millions) > > Technology Applications Grant Loan > Total > BPL 7 $70 $89 > $159 > Cable 19 $63 $23 > $86 > DSL 21 $120 $9 > $129 > Fiber 181 $2,600 $1,100 > $3,700 > Other 7 $24 $- > $24 > Satellite 12 $670 $830 > $1,500 > Unknown 178 $2,200 $700 > $2,900 > Wireless–3G 21 $380 $380 > $760 > Wireless–802.11 134 $170 $34 > $204 > Wireless–LTE 1 $16 $15 $31 > Wireless–Motorola 25 $253 $9 > $262 > Wireless-Other 21 $333 $50 > $383 > Wireless–Unkno
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications
Yeah for that much they could put the Internet on a disk and take it with them on the plane :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Sep 10, 2009, at 6:24 PM, ralph wrote: > This: > > "requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely > unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband > network." > > Is absolutely ridiculous! > > mail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications
This: "requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband network." Is absolutely ridiculous! mail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile ap
I would appreciate a copy Tim. Al Schneider a...@charlesstreetpartners.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; 'WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List' Subject: [WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. I spent several hours last night and today analyzing the BTOP/BIP applications. WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B. There are a total of 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. This analysis is based on the information provide in the project description and not all of the descriptions listed the last mile technology. In the next couple of weeks, NTIA will publish the executive summaries for the applications which should shed more light on the projects. I downloaded all of the applications into Excel and added a column with the Last Mile technology. Send me e-mail if you would like a copy of the spreadsheet. Four tables summarizing the last mile applications are at the bottom of this list. Highlights - Total of 1130 last mile projects requesting $14.2B. - WiMAX was the leading last mile technology with 307 projects requesting $1.6B. - Last mile fiber projects requested the most funds with 181 projects requesting $3.7B. - The largest grant application was submitted by RADGOV, INC requesting $938,187,772 for public computer centers which is 13% of the entire $7.2B for all three rounds. Also, the total amount allocated to Public Computer Center projects in this round is only $50M. - Aircell is requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband network." - Digital Bridge submitted 158 applications for WiMAX networks for a total of $154M grant funding and $98M in loans for a total request of $252M. - Glen Martin Inc submitted an application for $160M to deploy "two thousand miles of 10 GigE service throughout Missouri." They also submitted 23 applications requesting a total of $252M to deploy wireless (probably Motorola Canopy) broadband in rural Missouri. - Castillo Technologies, LLC submitted 17 applications requesting a total of $51M for wireless broadband in rural Arizona. - Jedai Network, Inc. submitted 13 applications requesting $45M for deploying broadband in rural Georgia. - KeyOn submitted 11 applications for $152M to deploy WiMAX at 3.65GHz in Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota, Nevada, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arkansas and Oklahoma. - Flow Mobile submitted 112 applications requesting $23M to deploy "a 4G-like mobile broadband WiFi network." - Clear Talk submitted 8 applications requesting $386M to deploy software defined radios initially supporting EVDO Rev. A and upgradeable to WiMAX/LTE. - Phalanx Technology Holdings, LLC submitted 5 applications requesting $141M for a fiber network including $92M for Fiber to the home in eastern Iowa. - Tower Stream submitted 17 applications requesting $123M to deploy WiMAX. - Utopian Wireless Corporation submitted 40 applications requesting $50M to deploy WiMAX. - UTAH TELECOMMUNICATION OPEN INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCY submitted 3 applications requesting $57M to deploy "Fiber to the Premises" in Utah. Finally, my favorite project description comes from 21st Century Communications, Inc. who is applying for an even $50,000,000 - "Collaboration with Project Kick-Start for Broadband Public Computer Center Expansion [William - add description]." Tim -- Tim Sylvester Avanzar Networks (408) 826-8350 (o) (408) 334-1700 (m) t...@avanzarnetworks.com Last Mile Applications with Wireless Detail ($ amounts in millions) Technology Applications GrantLoanTotal BPL 7 $70 $89 $159 Cable 19 $63 $23 $86 DSL21 $120 $9 $129 Fiber 181 $2,600 $1,100 $3,700 Other 7 $24 $- $24 Satellite 12 $670$830 $1,500 Unknown 178 $2,200$700 $2,900 Wireless–3G21 $380$380 $760 Wireless–802.11 134 $170 $34
[WISPA] Preliminary analysis of BTOP/BIP applications - WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B - 1130 last mile applic
I spent several hours last night and today analyzing the BTOP/BIP applications. WiMAX and Fiber are big winners with 307 WiMAX applications requesting $1.6B and 181 fiber applications requesting $3.7B. There are a total of 1130 last mile applications requesting $14.2B. This analysis is based on the information provide in the project description and not all of the descriptions listed the last mile technology. In the next couple of weeks, NTIA will publish the executive summaries for the applications which should shed more light on the projects. I downloaded all of the applications into Excel and added a column with the Last Mile technology. Send me e-mail if you would like a copy of the spreadsheet. Four tables summarizing the last mile applications are at the bottom of this list. Highlights - Total of 1130 last mile projects requesting $14.2B. - WiMAX was the leading last mile technology with 307 projects requesting $1.6B. - Last mile fiber projects requested the most funds with 181 projects requesting $3.7B. - The largest grant application was submitted by RADGOV, INC requesting $938,187,772 for public computer centers which is 13% of the entire $7.2B for all three rounds. Also, the total amount allocated to Public Computer Center projects in this round is only $50M. - Aircell is requesting $65M to deploy "Inflight Internet service in the largely unserved U.S. airspace via Aircell's ATG commercial broadband network." - Digital Bridge submitted 158 applications for WiMAX networks for a total of $154M grant funding and $98M in loans for a total request of $252M. - Glen Martin Inc submitted an application for $160M to deploy "two thousand miles of 10 GigE service throughout Missouri." They also submitted 23 applications requesting a total of $252M to deploy wireless (probably Motorola Canopy) broadband in rural Missouri. - Castillo Technologies, LLC submitted 17 applications requesting a total of $51M for wireless broadband in rural Arizona. - Jedai Network, Inc. submitted 13 applications requesting $45M for deploying broadband in rural Georgia. - KeyOn submitted 11 applications for $152M to deploy WiMAX at 3.65GHz in Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota, Nevada, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arkansas and Oklahoma. - Flow Mobile submitted 112 applications requesting $23M to deploy "a 4G-like mobile broadband WiFi network." - Clear Talk submitted 8 applications requesting $386M to deploy software defined radios initially supporting EVDO Rev. A and upgradeable to WiMAX/LTE. - Phalanx Technology Holdings, LLC submitted 5 applications requesting $141M for a fiber network including $92M for Fiber to the home in eastern Iowa. - Tower Stream submitted 17 applications requesting $123M to deploy WiMAX. - Utopian Wireless Corporation submitted 40 applications requesting $50M to deploy WiMAX. - UTAH TELECOMMUNICATION OPEN INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCY submitted 3 applications requesting $57M to deploy "Fiber to the Premises" in Utah. Finally, my favorite project description comes from 21st Century Communications, Inc. who is applying for an even $50,000,000 - "Collaboration with Project Kick-Start for Broadband Public Computer Center Expansion [William - add description]." Tim -- Tim Sylvester Avanzar Networks (408) 826-8350 (o) (408) 334-1700 (m) t...@avanzarnetworks.com Last Mile Applications with Wireless Detail ($ amounts in millions) Technology Applications GrantLoanTotal BPL 7 $70 $89 $159 Cable 19 $63 $23 $86 DSL21 $120 $9 $129 Fiber 181 $2,600 $1,100 $3,700 Other 7 $24 $- $24 Satellite 12 $670$830 $1,500 Unknown 178 $2,200$700 $2,900 Wireless–3G21 $380$380 $760 Wireless–802.11 134 $170 $34 $204 Wireless–LTE1 $16 $15 $31 Wireless–Motorola 25 $253 $9 $262 Wireless-Other 21 $333 $50 $383 Wireless–Unknown 196 $1,730$744 $2,474 Wireless–WiMAX307 $1,100$500 $1,600 - -- -- --- Totals 1,130 $9,729 $4,483 $14,212 **
