Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus, to see 
if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it cost 
more (because it's N).


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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports 
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to 
 use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too 
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Mike - where did you get them and how much?

If you're referring to the Asus WL-520GU note that you can put DDWRT on it!

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-520GU

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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus, to see
 if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it cost
 more (because it's N).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
  use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
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  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Mike Hammett
NewEgg for $45.

I'm too lazy to worry about DD-WRT.


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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:05 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mike - where did you get them and how much?

 If you're referring to the Asus WL-520GU note that you can put DDWRT on 
 it!

 http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-520GU

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett 
 wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus, to 
 see
 if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it cost
 more (because it's N).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used 
  to
  use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
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  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Is the Asus software worthwhile I take it?

On 9/28/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 NewEgg for $45.

 I'm too lazy to worry about DD-WRT.


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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mike - where did you get them and how much?

 If you're referring to the Asus WL-520GU note that you can put DDWRT on
 it!

 http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-520GU

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett
 wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus, to
 see
 if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it cost
 more (because it's N).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
  to
  use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Never used it.


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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:41 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Is the Asus software worthwhile I take it?

 On 9/28/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 NewEgg for $45.

 I'm too lazy to worry about DD-WRT.


 -
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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:05 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mike - where did you get them and how much?

 If you're referring to the Asus WL-520GU note that you can put DDWRT on
 it!

 http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-520GU

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett
 wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus, to
 see
 if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it 
 cost
 more (because it's N).


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN 
  ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I 
  used
  to
  use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
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  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Josh Luthman
When you do get your hands on one of those units, please share your opinion
if you could =)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Never used it.


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 --
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  Is the Asus software worthwhile I take it?
 
  On 9/28/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  NewEgg for $45.
 
  I'm too lazy to worry about DD-WRT.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:05 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mike - where did you get them and how much?
 
  If you're referring to the Asus WL-520GU note that you can put DDWRT on
  it!
 
  http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-520GU
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett
  wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:
 
  Asus has some routers that will do it.  I ordered two of the 520gus,
 to
  see
  if they really do or not.  They did have an N13U that had it, but it
  cost
  more (because it's N).
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
   ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I
   used
   to
   use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
   expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
  
   No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
  
  
   -
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   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-28 Thread Jayson Baker
The MikroTik RB750 is only something like $37.
The cheap Belkin's you get at WalMart let you turn them into AP-Only mode,
bridging all Ethernet ports and the WiFi AP.

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
 use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive
 ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Reed
I use the Trendnet TEW423-BRP (I think that is the right number)

Mike Hammett wrote:
 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else, 
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

   
 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
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 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
It's got a similar reset process to a Linksys, hold reset button while
cycling power.

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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
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I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its 
versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink, 
netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user 
pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
reset 
button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional

built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
thrown 
away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
out. I 
have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal
use 
through the years.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of 
awesomeness.
 
 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
else,
  though.
 
 
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN 
ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I 
used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is
too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Hot glue in the reset hole and a bit of black tape over it hides it enough
to discourage the resets.  :)



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

It's got a similar reset process to a Linksys, hold reset button while
cycling power.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its 
versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink, 
netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user 
pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
reset 
button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional

built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
thrown 
away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
out. I 
have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal
use 
through the years.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of 
awesomeness.
 
 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
else,
  though.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN 
ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I 
used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is
too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably the 432.  I don't believe you can disable the routing feature to 
make it bridge.


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From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:46 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I use the Trendnet TEW423-BRP (I think that is the right number)

 Mike Hammett wrote:
 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
I have used these without problems. 
http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=usbid=2pgid=82_10pid=428

They have an option to do bridging, but I have never used it. They are not a 
big name brand, but for less than $40 wholesale, I can't complain.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:35:42 -0500

I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where 
I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to use the 
TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive ($100).  
I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
Who do you use as a distributor?  We used to go with Ma-Labs but their
prices crept up too high on most of the things we purchased.



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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

I have used these without problems.
http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=usbid=2pgid=82_10pid=42
8

They have an option to do bridging, but I have never used it. They are not a
big name brand, but for less than $40 wholesale, I can't complain.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:35:42 -0500

I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive
($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread eje
Why not instead load a default script onto the router so if the customer use 
the reset button it reset to a working default mode. 

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com

Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:24:11 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


Hot glue in the reset hole and a bit of black tape over it hides it enough
to discourage the resets.  :)



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

It's got a similar reset process to a Linksys, hold reset button while
cycling power.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its 
versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink, 
netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user 
pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
reset 
button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional

built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
thrown 
away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
out. I 
have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal
use 
through the years.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of 
awesomeness.
 
 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
else,
  though.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN 
ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I 
used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is
too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  

  
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Mikrotik's don't get reset so you're solving a problem that isn't one.

Also Mikrotik RBs are too expensive for this application.  If the 750 had
WiFi...

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

 Why not instead load a default script onto the router so if the customer
 use the reset button it reset to a working default mode.

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com

 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:24:11
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 Hot glue in the reset hole and a bit of black tape over it hides it enough
 to discourage the resets.  :)



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM
 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 It's got a similar reset process to a Linksys, hold reset button while
 cycling power.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Carullo
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
 versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink,
 netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user
 pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
 reset
 button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional

 built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
 thrown
 away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
 out. I
 have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal
 use
 through the years.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
 awesomeness.
 
  On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
   Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
 else,
   though.
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
   --
   From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   Mikrotik?
  
   Gino A. Villarini
   g...@aeronetpr.com
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
   tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
 ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I
 used
   to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is
 too
   expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
  
   No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
  
  
   -
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   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike
Not sure if Linksys has fixed it, but we determined a while back the 
lockup problem with them was the lack of robustness in their power 
supply.  They work fine in the city where the electricity doesn't sag 
or spike, but in the country they are always locking up.  Wind blows 
trees against lines, farmer turns on huge corn dryer ...

At 11:13 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote:
We're a Linksys dealer but the new routers suck, in my opinion.  Better than
the belkin or netgear though so for home use, they are fine.  We keep stock
firmware on the home users and the new ones don't support DD-WRT for the
most part anyhow.  And yeah, it's easy to walk them through things over the
phone with the Linksys, the netgears are a nightmare with their auto-config
crap.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Neal
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems.
One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is:
  We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and
these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience.  There
may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well,
but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well.

These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at
our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely do
we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware.  I have had a few
problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to update
the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato.


-Kevin


On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett
wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's
  been
  broken.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
   Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.
  
   Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
   want.
   I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them
   out
   of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
   bucks,
   they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
   configurable.
  
   Robert West
   Just Micro digital Services Inc.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of Gino Villarini
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   Mikrotik?
  
   Gino A. Villarini
   g...@aeronetpr.com
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
   tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
   to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
   expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
  
   No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Robert West
The old power supplies were decent and I still have them around here but the
new ones are small and pop easily.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Not sure if Linksys has fixed it, but we determined a while back the 
lockup problem with them was the lack of robustness in their power 
supply.  They work fine in the city where the electricity doesn't sag 
or spike, but in the country they are always locking up.  Wind blows 
trees against lines, farmer turns on huge corn dryer ...

At 11:13 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote:
We're a Linksys dealer but the new routers suck, in my opinion.  Better
than
the belkin or netgear though so for home use, they are fine.  We keep stock
firmware on the home users and the new ones don't support DD-WRT for the
most part anyhow.  And yeah, it's easy to walk them through things over the
phone with the Linksys, the netgears are a nightmare with their auto-config
crap.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Neal
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems.
One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is:
  We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers
and
these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience.  There
may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well,
but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well.

These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at
our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely
do
we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware.  I have had a few
problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to
update
the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato.


-Kevin


On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett
wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

  Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's
  been
  broken.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
   Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.
  
   Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
   want.
   I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of
them
   out
   of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
   bucks,
   they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
   configurable.
  
   Robert West
   Just Micro digital Services Inc.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
   Behalf Of Gino Villarini
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   Mikrotik?
  
   Gino A. Villarini
   g...@aeronetpr.com
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
   tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
   to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
   expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
  
   No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  

   
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its not easy 
to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a linksys.
Its a double edge sword.
But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply because 
the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as a 
wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.

But had a question

Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things like PPTP 
and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works right 
out of the box with a click of a checkbox.

Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the neck, 
because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires 
addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or atleast 
some helper modules that load at boot time.

So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with Mikrotik 
OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie techs can 
configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a Linksys?

Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load 
everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
Or are those things fixed by default?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions



 I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
 versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink,
 netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user
 pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit 
 reset
 button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional
 built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have thrown
 away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps out. 
 I
 have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal use
 through the years.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102

  Original Message 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
 awesomeness.

 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
  though.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  --
  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
 ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I
 used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation.
Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options.

If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is defaulted.
Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done.

If you have another device as wireless (Canopy) and then your customer
router is a MT.  You have layer 2 connectivity to it...have at it.

If it was misconfigured then we're looking at a business strategy problem
rather then a technical problem...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its not
 easy
 to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a linksys.
 Its a double edge sword.
 But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply
 because
 the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as a
 wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.

 But had a question

 Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things like PPTP
 and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works right
 out of the box with a click of a checkbox.

 Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the neck,
 because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires
 addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or
 atleast
 some helper modules that load at boot time.

 So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with Mikrotik
 OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie techs can
 configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a Linksys?

 Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load
 everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
 Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
 Or are those things fixed by default?

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 
  I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
  versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink,
  netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user
  pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
  reset
  button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional
  built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have thrown
  away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps out.
  I
  have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal use
  through the years.

  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  321-205-1100 x102
 
   Original Message 
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
  awesomeness.
 
  On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
   Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
   though.
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
   --
   From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   Mikrotik?
  
   Gino A. Villarini
   g...@aeronetpr.com
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
   tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
  ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I
  used
   to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
   expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
  
   No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  
  
   
   WISPA Wants You! Join today!
   http://signup.wispa.org/
  
  
   
  
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
You can setup a default script to be used during Netinstall.  This will
default it back to YOUR original settings.  No matter how many times
they default/reset it, it will go back to the way you set it up using a
script during Netinstall.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation.
Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options.

If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is defaulted.
Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done.

If you have another device as wireless (Canopy) and then your customer
router is a MT.  You have layer 2 connectivity to it...have at it.

If it was misconfigured then we're looking at a business strategy
problem
rather then a technical problem...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tom DeReggi
wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its
not
 easy
 to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a
linksys.
 Its a double edge sword.
 But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply
 because
 the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as a
 wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.

 But had a question

 Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things like
PPTP
 and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works
right
 out of the box with a click of a checkbox.

 Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the
neck,
 because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires
 addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or
 atleast
 some helper modules that load at boot time.

 So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with
Mikrotik
 OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie
techs can
 configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a
Linksys?

 Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load
 everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
 Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
 Or are those things fixed by default?

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 
  I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
  versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than
dlink,
  netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical
user
  pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets
hit
  reset
  button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the
additional
  built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
thrown
  away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
out.
  I
  have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from
normal use
  through the years.

  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  321-205-1100 x102
 
   Original Message 
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
  awesomeness.
 
  On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
   Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
else,
   though.
  
  
   -
   Mike Hammett
   Intelligent Computing Solutions
   http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
   --
   From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   Mikrotik?
  
   Gino A. Villarini
   g...@aeronetpr.com
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
   tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On
   Behalf Of Mike Hammett
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple
LAN
  ports
   where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.
I
  used
   to use

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Chuck - tried this with a wireless card?

As of v3 they starting doing

int wireless
set 0 name=blah ssid=blah

so it may be possible now...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 You can setup a default script to be used during Netinstall.  This will
 default it back to YOUR original settings.  No matter how many times
 they default/reset it, it will go back to the way you set it up using a
 script during Netinstall.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:40 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation.
 Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options.

 If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is defaulted.
 Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done.

 If you have another device as wireless (Canopy) and then your customer
 router is a MT.  You have layer 2 connectivity to it...have at it.

 If it was misconfigured then we're looking at a business strategy
 problem
 rather then a technical problem...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

  Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its
 not
  easy
  to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a
 linksys.
  Its a double edge sword.
  But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply
  because
  the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as a
  wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.
 
  But had a question
 
  Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things like
 PPTP
  and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works
 right
  out of the box with a click of a checkbox.
 
  Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the
 neck,
  because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires
  addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or
  atleast
  some helper modules that load at boot time.
 
  So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with
 Mikrotik
  OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie
 techs can
  configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a
 Linksys?
 
  Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load
  everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
  Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
  Or are those things fixed by default?
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 
  
   I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
   versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than
 dlink,
   netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical
 user
   pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets
 hit
   reset
   button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the
 additional
   built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
 thrown
   away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps
 out.
   I
   have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from
 normal use
   through the years.
 
   Scott Carullo
   Brevard Wireless
   321-205-1100 x102
  
    Original Message 
   From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
   awesomeness.
  
   On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere
 else,
though.
   
   
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
   
   
   
--
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I have MT CPE, but the only time I've had to touch them is if I upgraded the 
firmware to something I shouldn't have and it crapped out.  Some people have 
their internal AP built on a bigger RB, but that's more of a pain than I 
care to deal with.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:40 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation.
 Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options.

 If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is defaulted.
 Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done.

 If you have another device as wireless (Canopy) and then your customer
 router is a MT.  You have layer 2 connectivity to it...have at it.

 If it was misconfigured then we're looking at a business strategy problem
 rather then a technical problem...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tom DeReggi 
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its not
 easy
 to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a linksys.
 Its a double edge sword.
 But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply
 because
 the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as a
 wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.

 But had a question

 Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things like 
 PPTP
 and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works 
 right
 out of the box with a click of a checkbox.

 Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the neck,
 because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires
 addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or
 atleast
 some helper modules that load at boot time.

 So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with 
 Mikrotik
 OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie techs 
 can
 configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a 
 Linksys?

 Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load
 everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
 Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
 Or are those things fixed by default?

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions


 
  I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its
  versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink,
  netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user
  pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit
  reset
  button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the 
  additional
  built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have 
  thrown
  away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps 
  out.
  I
  have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal 
  use
  through the years.

  Scott Carullo
  Brevard Wireless
  321-205-1100 x102
 
   Original Message 
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
  awesomeness.
 
  On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
   Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere 
   else,
   though.
  
   



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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 13:01 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: 
 So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with Mikrotik 
 OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie techs can 
 configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a Linksys?

How easy is it... is a question that is impossible to answer.  It is
easy for some and not so easy for others.  It isn't hard for anyone,
IMO.

 Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just load 
 everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?

http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/06/how-to-configure-a-mikrotik-router-to-replace-cpe-router/

How about a tutorial that teaches you how to build your own?


 Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?

For MOST items?  The answer to your question is yes.

 Or are those things fixed by default?

Not sure I understand which things would need to be fixed.  It seems
to me that training and procedure are the answer to fixing the things
you need fixed.  Also, as Eje suggestions, changing the default values
will help.

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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
No I haven't.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Chuck - tried this with a wireless card?

As of v3 they starting doing

int wireless
set 0 name=blah ssid=blah

so it may be possible now...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 You can setup a default script to be used during Netinstall.  This
will
 default it back to YOUR original settings.  No matter how many times
 they default/reset it, it will go back to the way you set it up using
a
 script during Netinstall.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:40 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 To this day I have never seen a MT default excluding reinstallation.
 Excluding having the customer do work, the MT options.

 If you have MT as your wireless CPE - you're screwed if it is
defaulted.
 Default config will not set wlan1 so it must be manually done.

 If you have another device as wireless (Canopy) and then your customer
 router is a MT.  You have layer 2 connectivity to it...have at it.

 If it was misconfigured then we're looking at a business strategy
 problem
 rather then a technical problem...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

  Yeah... But when the MT config gets accidentally misconfigured, its
 not
  easy
  to walk the customer through reprogramming it, as it is with a
 linksys.
  Its a double edge sword.
  But, we've been thinking about using the MT as a home gateway simply
  because
  the Linksys's crap out so often, and because the MT can double up as
a
  wireless repeater, for the neighbor homes.
 
  But had a question
 
  Using Linksys type SOHOs doing NAT is really easy, because things
like
 PPTP
  and IPSEC passthrus, FTP compatibilty, and XBOX LIVE security, works
 right
  out of the box with a click of a checkbox.
 
  Historically, with Linux, NAT (or IP MAsqerading) is a pain in the
 neck,
  because Active FTP and PPTP dont simply work by default. It requires
  addition of some syntax complicated IPTables configs to allow it. Or
  atleast
  some helper modules that load at boot time.
 
  So my questions is How easy is it to solve those problems with
 Mikrotik
  OS, to support the above common compatibilty things?  So a rookie
 techs can
  configure the MT in just minutes during install, equivellent to a
 Linksys?
 
  Does someone have a common default config to sahre that they just
load
  everytime by default, before modifying end user specific config?
  Or is it easy enough, to do it from scratch each time?
  Or are those things fixed by default?
 
  Tom DeReggi
  RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
  IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 
  
   I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to
its
   versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than
 dlink,
   netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical
 user
   pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets
 hit
   reset
   button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the
 additional
   built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have
 thrown
   away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or
craps
 out.
   I
   have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from
 normal use
   through the years.
 
   Scott Carullo
   Brevard Wireless
   321-205-1100 x102
  
    Original Message 
   From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
  
   If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
   awesomeness.
  
   On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere

[WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where I 
can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to use the 
TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive ($100).  
I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
Does the Engenius one have the capability to disable NAT?

On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
 use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive
 ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else, 
though.


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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.

Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you want.
I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them out
of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55 bucks,
they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
configurable.

Robert West
Just Micro digital Services Inc.









-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Mikrotik?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been 
broken.


-
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--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.

 Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you 
 want.
 I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them 
 out
 of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55 
 bucks,
 they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
 configurable.

 Robert West
 Just Micro digital Services Inc.









 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
Why not just by a switch? Switches have no NAT and are cheap. Slap up
a cheap AP an you have your solution however it is not all in one.



On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been
 broken.


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 --
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.

 Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
 want.
 I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them
 out
 of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
 bucks,
 they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
 configurable.

 Robert West
 Just Micro digital Services Inc.









 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
because it's not all in one.  I've had customers complain when I used 
separate APs and switches, because there's also the PoE injector.  Lots of 
crap.


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From: Andrew Niemantsverdriet andrewniema...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:16 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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 Why not just by a switch? Switches have no NAT and are cheap. Slap up
 a cheap AP an you have your solution however it is not all in one.



 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's 
 been
 broken.


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 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.

 Why not Linksys? You can always put third party firmware on it if you
 want.
 I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one. I've even taken a few of them
 out
 of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE. At 55
 bucks,
 they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
 configurable.

 Robert West
 Just Micro digital Services Inc.









 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability... making it a bridge. I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100). I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name. :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of awesomeness.

On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Rb750 for $40 with PS

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else, 
though.


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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, attractive router, too bad there's no wireless capability,


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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:27 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Rb750 for $40 with PS

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:01 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
 ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Then they wonder why the Internet light isn't on and call because it's down.


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From: Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Just pick any wireless router with a 4-port switch and just don't use the
 WAN RJ-45 socket.
 Then, go in and disable the DHCP...simple thru any of the GUIs on
 LinkSys/D-link/NetGear, etc.

 . . . J o n a t h a n

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:23 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
 awesomeness.

 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
 ports where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.
 I used to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR
 is too expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45
 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
750 is supposed to have Wifi down the road.   That's what I was trying
to recall.

On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Then they wonder why the Internet light isn't on and call because it's down.


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 From: Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:28 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Just pick any wireless router with a 4-port switch and just don't use the
 WAN RJ-45 socket.
 Then, go in and disable the DHCP...simple thru any of the GUIs on
 LinkSys/D-link/NetGear, etc.

 . . . J o n a t h a n

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of
 awesomeness.

 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
 though.


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 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
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 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
 ports where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.
 I used to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR
 is too expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45
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 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Scott Carullo

I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its 
versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink, 
netgear, trend etc...  Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user 
pushing the reset button - I hate that.  Oh, it doesn't work lets hit reset 
button then they say they didn't touch it.  Further more, the additional 
built in tools and flexibility make it an easy buy for me.  I have thrown 
away loads of linksys, dlink etc gear that starts acting up or craps out. I 
have never thrown away a MT for acting up or crapping out from normal use 
through the years.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:51 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
 If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of 
awesomeness.
 
 On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else,
  though.
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
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  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
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  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN 
ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I 
used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  

  
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Never saw that one.  Looks to be the thing!  Would be my pick.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:27 PM
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Rb750 for $40 with PS

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Too expensive for a home router.  I do use them most everywhere else, 
though.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN
ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
That's why I change the firmware.  I have 2 hotels running a bunch of
Linksys 160n's with dd-wrt for the past 4 years with no issues.  At the
time, was the cheapest solution and it's paid off for me.  They take care of
themselves and they all reboot once a week automatically.



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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been

broken.


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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.

 Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you 
 want.
 I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them 
 out
 of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55 
 bucks,
 they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
 configurable.

 Robert West
 Just Micro digital Services Inc.









 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Gino Villarini
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 Mikrotik?

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
 where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
 to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
 expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


 -
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread RickG
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EW-7207APg
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where 
 I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to use the 
 TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive ($100).  
 I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.

 No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Kevin Neal
WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems.
One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is:
 We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and
these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience.  There
may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well,
but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well.

These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at
our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely do
we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware.  I have had a few
problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to update
the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato.


-Kevin


On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's
 been
 broken.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.
 
  Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
  want.
  I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them
  out
  of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
  bucks,
  they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
  configurable.
 
  Robert West
  Just Micro digital Services Inc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Gino Villarini
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike
In my experience NO USB wireless dongle has been without their 
problems.  I avoid them like H1N1.


At 09:47 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote:
I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each.  They use the Ralink
chip.  A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the
ones I still have.  Mine are black, not white.  Small though.  The driver
also supports 5ghz so I thought maybe the ralink chip supported both and the
5 was disabled.  I never got around to looking into that, would have been
nice to have a usb adapter that was dual band and under 10 bucks.



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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

http://www.edimax.us/
EW-7207APg
-RickG

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive
($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
So no more than any other USB dongle like H1N1 vs. any other flu that has 
ever existed?


-
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:11 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 In my experience NO USB wireless dongle has been without their
 problems.  I avoid them like H1N1.


 At 09:47 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote:
I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each.  They use the 
Ralink
chip.  A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the
ones I still have.  Mine are black, not white.  Small though.  The driver
also supports 5ghz so I thought maybe the ralink chip supported both and 
the
5 was disabled.  I never got around to looking into that, would have been
nice to have a usb adapter that was dual band and under 10 bucks.



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

http://www.edimax.us/
EW-7207APg
-RickG

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too 
expensive
($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
You got it.  Good in a pinch but not for customers.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

So no more than any other USB dongle like H1N1 vs. any other flu that has 
ever existed?


-
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:11 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

 In my experience NO USB wireless dongle has been without their
 problems.  I avoid them like H1N1.


 At 09:47 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote:
I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each.  They use the 
Ralink
chip.  A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the
ones I still have.  Mine are black, not white.  Small though.  The driver
also supports 5ghz so I thought maybe the ralink chip supported both and 
the
5 was disabled.  I never got around to looking into that, would have been
nice to have a usb adapter that was dual band and under 10 bucks.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

http://www.edimax.us/
EW-7207APg
-RickG

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to
use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too 
expensive
($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
We're a Linksys dealer but the new routers suck, in my opinion.  Better than
the belkin or netgear though so for home use, they are fine.  We keep stock
firmware on the home users and the new ones don't support DD-WRT for the
most part anyhow.  And yeah, it's easy to walk them through things over the
phone with the Linksys, the netgears are a nightmare with their auto-config
crap.  

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Neal
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems.
One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is:
 We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and
these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience.  There
may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well,
but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well.

These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at
our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely do
we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware.  I have had a few
problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to update
the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato.


-Kevin


On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett
wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's
 been
 broken.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

  Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.
 
  Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
  want.
  I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them
  out
  of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
  bucks,
  they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
  configurable.
 
  Robert West
  Just Micro digital Services Inc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Gino Villarini
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  Mikrotik?
 
  Gino A. Villarini
  g...@aeronetpr.com
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
 
  I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
  where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
  to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
  expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
 
  No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  
  
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