Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
I agree with John's summary of how it works. If you want to see the current Senate version go to www.senate.gov On the right you will see a link for active legislation. Under the popular titles you can see the current version plus the amendments. The combined House/Senate version is what matters and the conference committee report (merged bills) can't be written until the Senate passes its version. From everything I read though there will be a bias towards projects that can be started within 45 days of the passage of the legislation. So have your projects engineered and ready or if you don't want any in your region then make sure NTIA and RUS know that you already provide advanced services. I kind of doubt anyone in the nation provides what they have in mind for fiber broadband speeds. The House version called for fiber networks to provide 45mb down 15 mb up and the Senate version calls 100mb down and 20mb up. For wireless the House calls for 3 mb down and 1 mb up. Senate says 3 mb down and 768 k up. Steve Smith Chase 3000 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! I believe this is a move that is happening to make the House and Senate bills more closely aligned. Steve Coran also stated similar thoughts regarding this move. The House bill had $6 Billion for broadband. The Senate package allocated $9 Billion. Once both bills pass they must go to Committee for a new version to be voted on by both House and Senate. Clearly the dollar amounts must meet in the middle which means that the Senate ir proactively getting their borabdand dollar amounts in line with what has already passed the House. I know it is comfusing but creating new laws is something that is a little tough on purpose so as to stop knee-jerk legislative actions, or at least I think that is the reason behind the convoluted steps created by the process. Some of my high school civics lessons are beginning to float up through the fog that is my poor abused brain. :-) Scriv On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.comwrote: The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
I think there is still 7 Billion still in there isn't it? Thought I read somewhere it when from 9 down to 7 but I could be wrong or the reporters could be mistaken. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:56 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
Does anyone out there have access to the actual revised bill? That’s the only way to tell whats really happening. I heard yesterday that they were cutting the RUS out of the administration of the programWho knows -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! I think there is still 7 Billion still in there isn't it? Thought I read somewhere it when from 9 down to 7 but I could be wrong or the reporters could be mistaken. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:56 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 4:35 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 4:35 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
I read the bill last night: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/stimbil2009.pdfand found the reference to broadband, specifically section 101 pages 11-12, but did not find any reference to amounts. The last had heard was that it was @ $10 billion, so this could be right...that there still is $8 billion. If that is the case, it is a lot more than GW allowed. Last year between grants and loans there was $338 million alloted to the USDA. Victoria On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.comwrote: I think there is still 7 Billion still in there isn't it? Thought I read somewhere it when from 9 down to 7 but I could be wrong or the reporters could be mistaken. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:56 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
I heard the same thing Al, but Senator Harkin (Iowa) was going to fight hard to get it put back in, in conference committee negotiations. I don't know how factual this is. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Schneider Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:04 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! Does anyone out there have access to the actual revised bill? That's the only way to tell whats really happening. I heard yesterday that they were cutting the RUS out of the administration of the programWho knows -Original Message-From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian WebsterSent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:01 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! I think there is still 7 Billion still in there isn't it? Thought I read somewhere it when from 9 down to 7 but I could be wrong or the reporters could be mistaken. Thank You,Brian Webster -Original Message-From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]onbehalf Of St. Louis BroadbandSent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:56 AMTo: wirel...@wispa.orgsubject: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill! The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/-- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/-- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 4:35 PM No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 4:35 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/-- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!
I believe this is a move that is happening to make the House and Senate bills more closely aligned. Steve Coran also stated similar thoughts regarding this move. The House bill had $6 Billion for broadband. The Senate package allocated $9 Billion. Once both bills pass they must go to Committee for a new version to be voted on by both House and Senate. Clearly the dollar amounts must meet in the middle which means that the Senate ir proactively getting their borabdand dollar amounts in line with what has already passed the House. I know it is comfusing but creating new laws is something that is a little tough on purpose so as to stop knee-jerk legislative actions, or at least I think that is the reason behind the convoluted steps created by the process. Some of my high school civics lessons are beginning to float up through the fog that is my poor abused brain. :-) Scriv On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.comwrote: The Senate agreement pared from the bill $20 billion for school construction, $2 billion to expand broadband access in rural areas, $3.5 billion to make federal buildings more energy efficient and $200 million for NASA. It also reduced a proposed subsidy that would allow the jobless to buy health insurance through their former employers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=adnIDRZKZQJwrefer=us This is NOT good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
