Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
I just swapped a couple of overloaded Deliberant Duos for a couple of Deliberant Quads. Three sectors on 2.4 (h-pol) channels 1,6,11 and the 4th radio for the backhaul. Service on one particular customer went from barely getting 1meg down, 512up to almost 5meg down and 4meg up. This has been consistent across the board. Not sure what the inside of the quads look like - haven't been in them - but I know their performance is great and self-interference seems to be almost non-existent. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? Uh.. Yeah. Sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that way either. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per >> routerboard and that worked nicely. >> >> Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, >> the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some >> interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent >> channels. >> >> that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on >> the same routerboard. >> >> Thank you in advance >> >> -- >> >> >> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco >> >> Teleinform s.r.l. >> Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo >> Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) >> Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 >> Fax: +39-091-6406200 >> >> http://www.wikitel.it >> http://www.teleinform.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
Uh.. Yeah. Sucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that way either. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per >> routerboard and that worked nicely. >> >> Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, >> the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some >> interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent >> channels. >> >> that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on >> the same routerboard. >> >> Thank you in advance >> >> -- >> >> >> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco >> >> Teleinform s.r.l. >> Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo >> Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) >> Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 >> Fax: +39-091-6406200 >> >> http://www.wikitel.it >> http://www.teleinform.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
If you could manage to get each radio card in its own Faraday shield you could make it work. You could put multiple router boards and cards in the same box separated by a stainless steel plumber's mesh. You have to take pains to ground the mesh to the box. The problem is de-sense to the receivers from the transmitters. I have built a number of 2.4 "repeater" type devices with two Deliberant cards in a PAC Wireless "pocket" antenna. One is connected to the internal antenna, and the other is connected to a short "ducky" I glue to the inside of the plastic cover at the top. I use them to do site surveys. The main radio connects to the tower, and the second radio creates a "hotspot" to wirelessly connect to a laptop. I will sometimes set the main radio SSID to "any" and put the MAC of the second radio in its "do not allow" list. I keep one of these in my Jeep in case I need to make a quick connection to the Internet from hostile territory. It's amazing how many open access points a 19 dB antenna will find -- even in the small towns I frequent. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? At 9/1/2010 06:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >We never put more than 1 freq card in an enclosure. XR2 + XR5, that's >fine, but not two XR2s or two XR5s. Reading the forums, especially the UBNT ones, I got some ideas about what might work. Here's my recollection. Just from the look of them, the UBNT radio cards seem to have more shielding than MTs, but the MTs might have enough. One of the big problems in this case is the pigtails. The stock ones are cheap, leaky coax. One guy routinely puts multiple radios on the same band into one Routerboard, but he either builds his out pigtails out of double-shielded coax, or he uses selected Laird ones. (Some Lairds are better than others, so they need testing.) For $15-20, a real premium-quality pigtail could be a bargain. Not that I know of anyone selling them. There were also reports that the RB433 had problems that didn't show up in the RB600 or RB800. This might be that on the RB433, cards are so close together that they touch, which is bad.. One guy stuck a toothpick between the adjacent cards. The plastic UBNT antennas are somewhat leaky too; best results even with separate radios come from using RF Armor or other shields. BTW I'm doing a design now with outdoor Routerboards, and hope to have multiple cards per box, so hearing about real experience with these or other tricks is alwasy helpful. >--- >Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:44 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > >I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. >Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that >way either. >marlon > >----- Original Message - >From: "Jeremie Chism" >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > > > > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with >using > > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone >had a > > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the >archive. > > -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
At 9/1/2010 06:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >We never put more than 1 freq card in an enclosure. XR2 + XR5, that's >fine, but not two XR2s or two XR5s. Reading the forums, especially the UBNT ones, I got some ideas about what might work. Here's my recollection. Just from the look of them, the UBNT radio cards seem to have more shielding than MTs, but the MTs might have enough. One of the big problems in this case is the pigtails. The stock ones are cheap, leaky coax. One guy routinely puts multiple radios on the same band into one Routerboard, but he either builds his out pigtails out of double-shielded coax, or he uses selected Laird ones. (Some Lairds are better than others, so they need testing.) For $15-20, a real premium-quality pigtail could be a bargain. Not that I know of anyone selling them. There were also reports that the RB433 had problems that didn't show up in the RB600 or RB800. This might be that on the RB433, cards are so close together that they touch, which is bad.. One guy stuck a toothpick between the adjacent cards. The plastic UBNT antennas are somewhat leaky too; best results even with separate radios come from using RF Armor or other shields. BTW I'm doing a design now with outdoor Routerboards, and hope to have multiple cards per box, so hearing about real experience with these or other tricks is alwasy helpful. >--- >Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:44 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > >I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. >Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that >way either. >marlon > >- Original Message - >From: "Jeremie Chism" >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > > > > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with >using > > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone >had a > > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the >archive. > > -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
We never put more than 1 freq card in an enclosure. XR2 + XR5, that's fine, but not two XR2s or two XR5s. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that way either. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per >> routerboard and that worked nicely. >> >> Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, >> the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some >> interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent >> channels. >> >> that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on >> the same routerboard. >> >> Thank you in advance >> >> -- >> >> >> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco >> >> Teleinform s.r.l. >> Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo >> Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) >> Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 >> Fax: +39-091-6406200 >> >> http://www.wikitel.it >> http://www.teleinform.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
I gave up on using two of the same band radios in a single enclosure. Different bands seems to work just fine and no interference issues that way either. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using > two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a > solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per >> routerboard and that worked nicely. >> >> Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, >> the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some >> interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent >> channels. >> >> that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on >> the same routerboard. >> >> Thank you in advance >> >> -- >> >> >> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco >> >> Teleinform s.r.l. >> Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo >> Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) >> Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 >> Fax: +39-091-6406200 >> >> http://www.wikitel.it >> http://www.teleinform.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster & faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable & dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp wrote: > That UBTik looks pretty cool. > > Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For > N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N > greatness. > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: > > Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at > > Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT > > dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. > > > > Eric Rogers > > Precision Data Solutions, LLC > > (317) 831-3000 x200 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > > > > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with > > using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but > > someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could > > check the archive. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per > > > routerboard and that worked nicely. > > > > > > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad > > idea, > > > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > > > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > > > channels. > > > > > > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on > > > the same routerboard. > > > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco > > > > > > Teleinform s.r.l. > > > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo > > > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) > > > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 > > > Fax: +39-091-6406200 > > > > > > http://www.wikitel.it > > > http://www.teleinform.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > /* > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL >KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > */ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
Kurt had an insteresting thread awhile back where he had 2 cards and a spectrum analyzer. -- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: "David E. Smith" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:16:31 -0500 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:42, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > channels. > If you can avoid it, don't put two radios on the same band, in the same enclosure. A 2.4 and 5.3 are okay, but if you have two 2.4 radios (for example) you may have weird cross-talk and interference issues. If you're not sure, just put up that second board; it's only a couple hundred bucks, and could save you a lot of headaches. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
anybody using multiple ubnt sr71-15 with/without any inteference issue? Thank you in advance > That UBTik looks pretty cool. > > Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For > N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N > greatness. > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: >> Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at >> Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT >> dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. >> >> Eric Rogers >> Precision Data Solutions, LLC >> (317) 831-3000 x200 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? >> >> There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with >> using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but >> someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could >> check the archive. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per >>> routerboard and that worked nicely. >>> >>> Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad >> idea, >>> the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some >>> interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent >>> channels. >>> >>> that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on >>> the same routerboard. >>> >>> Thank you in advance >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco >>> >>> Teleinform s.r.l. >>> Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo >>> Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) >>> Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 >>> Fax: +39-091-6406200 >>> >>> http://www.wikitel.it >>> http://www.teleinform.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
That UBTik looks pretty cool. Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N greatness. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote: > Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at > Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT > dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. > > Eric Rogers > Precision Data Solutions, LLC > (317) 831-3000 x200 > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? > > There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with > using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but > someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could > check the archive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per > > routerboard and that worked nicely. > > > > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad > idea, > > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > > channels. > > > > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on > > the same routerboard. > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > -- > > > > > > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco > > > > Teleinform s.r.l. > > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo > > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) > > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 > > Fax: +39-091-6406200 > > > > http://www.wikitel.it > > http://www.teleinform.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:47, Eric Rogers wrote: > Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at > Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT > dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. > > Depends on the radio, but the Mikrotik R52N cards have been a bit "flaky" - mostly weird problems where the receive sensitivity doesn't seem to be as good as some of their older cards. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:42, Paolo Di Francesco < paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com> wrote: > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > channels. > > If you can avoid it, don't put two radios on the same band, in the same enclosure. A 2.4 and 5.3 are okay, but if you have two 2.4 radios (for example) you may have weird cross-talk and interference issues. If you're not sure, just put up that second board; it's only a couple hundred bucks, and could save you a lot of headaches. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box? There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Hi all, > > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per > routerboard and that worked nicely. > > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > channels. > > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on > the same routerboard. > > Thank you in advance > > -- > > > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco > > Teleinform s.r.l. > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 > Fax: +39-091-6406200 > > http://www.wikitel.it > http://www.teleinform.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Hi all, > > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per > routerboard and that worked nicely. > > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent > channels. > > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on > the same routerboard. > > Thank you in advance > > -- > > > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco > > Teleinform s.r.l. > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 > Fax: +39-091-6406200 > > http://www.wikitel.it > http://www.teleinform.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
Hi all, in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per routerboard and that worked nicely. Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea, the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent channels. that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on the same routerboard. Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
