Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Military radar

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On 10/30/2010 3:24 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
 At 10/30/2010 02:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Anyone else catch this?

 http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf
 I seem to recall its coming up in a thread around then, but can't
 find it offhand.  However, it is tied to the TDWR issue, and in
 August, WISPA and SpectrumBridge set up a TDWR database to help get
 this fixed.  So just this month, the FCC has started processing new
 approvals for the 5475-5725 band.  Good work on WISPA's part.  Maybe
 the UBNT radios will get the DFS needed to pass.

 I don't really see why DFS is needed if you stay away from the
 5600-5650 TDWR band, but that's the FCC for you... maybe there are
 some other radars on the other frequencies though.  That band is
 legal in most other countries, so it's in the products.  And of
 course we Part 97 licensees can play (I do mean that literally, not
 commercial use) with radios on all sorts of frequencies, like 5850-5875. ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-31 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
These airport weather radars are  able to work in 5670-5720 MHz.
In our country 5470- 5670MHz is open  and   5670-5720 is not allowed to
use   to avoid interference with these (it seems the same type) airport
radars.
 Rocket in 5650 Mhz  with 40 Mhz channel bandwidth has  huge out of band
emission  above  5670 frequency and create problems.
Vyacheslav
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2010/10/30 Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com

 At 10/30/2010 02:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Anyone else catch this?
 
 
 http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf

 I seem to recall its coming up in a thread around then, but can't
 find it offhand.  However, it is tied to the TDWR issue, and in
 August, WISPA and SpectrumBridge set up a TDWR database to help get
 this fixed.  So just this month, the FCC has started processing new
 approvals for the 5475-5725 band.  Good work on WISPA's part.  Maybe
 the UBNT radios will get the DFS needed to pass.

 I don't really see why DFS is needed if you stay away from the
 5600-5650 TDWR band, but that's the FCC for you... maybe there are
 some other radars on the other frequencies though.  That band is
 legal in most other countries, so it's in the products.  And of
 course we Part 97 licensees can play (I do mean that literally, not
 commercial use) with radios on all sorts of frequencies, like 5850-5875.
 ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett

oh yeah, commercial weather radars are in this band as well.

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On 10/31/2010 2:06 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev wrote:

These airport weather radars are  able to work in 5670-5720 MHz.
In our country 5470- 5670MHz is open  and   5670-5720 is not 
allowed to use   to avoid interference with these (it seems the same 
type) airport radars.
 Rocket in 5650 Mhz  with 40 Mhz channel bandwidth has  huge out of 
band emission  above  5670 frequency and create problems.

Vyacheslav
UNIDATA
www.unidata.com.ua http://www.unidata.com.ua/

2010/10/30 Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com 
mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com


At 10/30/2010 02:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Anyone else catch this?


http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf

I seem to recall its coming up in a thread around then, but can't
find it offhand.  However, it is tied to the TDWR issue, and in
August, WISPA and SpectrumBridge set up a TDWR database to help get
this fixed.  So just this month, the FCC has started processing new
approvals for the 5475-5725 band.  Good work on WISPA's part.  Maybe
the UBNT radios will get the DFS needed to pass.

I don't really see why DFS is needed if you stay away from the
5600-5650 TDWR band, but that's the FCC for you... maybe there are
some other radars on the other frequencies though.  That band is
legal in most other countries, so it's in the products.  And of
course we Part 97 licensees can play (I do mean that literally, not
commercial use) with radios on all sorts of frequencies, like
5850-5875. ;-)

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[WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
Anyone else catch this?

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf

Regards,

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Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
For those with a Rocket M5 - is that a selectable center frequency?  Or is
the closest one 5725 (which would have 10Mhz out of band by the way)?

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On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 Anyone else catch this?


 http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf

 Regards,

 Chuck



 
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Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-30 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/30/2010 02:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Anyone else catch this?

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf

I seem to recall its coming up in a thread around then, but can't 
find it offhand.  However, it is tied to the TDWR issue, and in 
August, WISPA and SpectrumBridge set up a TDWR database to help get 
this fixed.  So just this month, the FCC has started processing new 
approvals for the 5475-5725 band.  Good work on WISPA's part.  Maybe 
the UBNT radios will get the DFS needed to pass.

I don't really see why DFS is needed if you stay away from the 
5600-5650 TDWR band, but that's the FCC for you... maybe there are 
some other radars on the other frequencies though.  That band is 
legal in most other countries, so it's in the products.  And of 
course we Part 97 licensees can play (I do mean that literally, not 
commercial use) with radios on all sorts of frequencies, like 5850-5875. ;-)

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Re: [WISPA] WISP Cited for illegal Ubiquiti RocketM5 5GHz use back in June...

2010-10-30 Thread Jack Unger
  Comments inline.

On 10/30/2010 1:24 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
 At 10/30/2010 02:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Anyone else catch this?

 http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/DOC-300297A1.pdf
 I seem to recall its coming up in a thread around then, but can't
 find it offhand.  However, it is tied to the TDWR issue, and in
 August, WISPA and SpectrumBridge set up a TDWR database to help get
 this fixed.  So just this month, the FCC has started processing new
 approvals for the 5475-5725 band.  Good work on WISPA's part.  Maybe
 the UBNT radios will get the DFS needed to pass.

 I don't really see why DFS is needed if you stay away from the
 5600-5650 TDWR band, but that's the FCC for you... maybe there are
 some other radars on the other frequencies though.
The military uses radar systems in the lower part of the 5470-5725 MHz band. 
That's why DFS is needed for the entire band.
 That band is
 legal in most other countries, so it's in the products.  And of
 course we Part 97 licensees can play (I do mean that literally, not
 commercial use) with radios on all sorts of frequencies, like 5850-5875. ;-)

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