Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Thank You,I've been trying to deal with SES too. They are nearly impossible to deal with. They want a commsearch for EVERY link. I've tried to explain that these are ptmp systems. Brick wall.. sigh marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com ; WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations Pat, First, I can understand the Earth Station's concern about your customer sites but by properly engineering your network and showing your propagation patterns on a map, I believe you can address their legitimate concerns. Either prepare or buy a propagation map showing that your access point will not interfere with the Earth Station. Then, show them how your customer sites will be pointed back toward your access point and NOT at the Earth Station, except in a few customer cases. Show them a coverage plot of the customer site closest to them that points away from them thus not creating any interference. Finally, show them a coverage plot of the closest customer site that IS pointing at them but that does not reach and interfere with them. They should then clearly understand that you have engineered your network in a way that will not create interference for them. If you want, you can hit me offlist for more details. jack Brian Webster wrote: I would try buying a mailing list, map the potential customers the fall within your wireless footprint, submit that as a batch and get one approval. You could use the same information for a targeted marketing campaign. Thank You, Brian Webster pat wrote: Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is getting really annoying. Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
They sent our site information for the base stations to Comsearch for an RF analysis so they have a map. They also have a map of my customer locations, none of which point in their direction. I also have a mountain range that goes from around 5000 feet to 7000 feet in elevation between me and them. They have the product information sheets for the antennas at the client's sites. No attorney is involved yet. Tim Sylvester wrote: > Do you have permission from SES Americom to at least install your base > station? If so, register your base station on the FCC site. Once the base > station is approved, start registering your client sites. > > Tim > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of pat >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:59 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations >> >> SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. >> >> >> >> Tim Sylvester wrote: >> >>> Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station >>> >> people? >> >>> The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for >>> locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of >>> >> the >> >>> Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read >>> >> the full >> >>> document here: >>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf >>> >>> This is the intro to the appendix. >>> >>> * >>> APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS >>> >> Earth >> >>> Station >>> Protection Zone >>> >>> The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 >>> >> MHz >> >>> band be located at least >>> 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected >>> licensees agree on closer spacing. >>> Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to >>> determine a safe distance within >>> the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be >>> >> located >> >>> without increasing the potential >>> of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. >>> >> We >> >>> reiterate that this is being presented >>> only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are >>> >> many >> >>> methods for providing the >>> required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an >>> obstruction, and that licensees are free to >>> propose any method they deem appropriate. >>> * >>> >>> I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe >>> >> distance >> >>> for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth >>> >> station >> >>> operator. >>> >>> I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two >>> >> mountain >> >>> ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> >> On >> >>>> Behalf Of pat >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations >>>> >>>> Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to >>>> >> tell >> >>>> me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax >>>> deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km >>>> exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is >>>> getting >>>> really annoying. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> --- >
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Title: Thank You, Pat, First, I can understand the Earth Station's concern about your customer sites but by properly engineering your network and showing your propagation patterns on a map, I believe you can address their legitimate concerns. Either prepare or buy a propagation map showing that your access point will not interfere with the Earth Station. Then, show them how your customer sites will be pointed back toward your access point and NOT at the Earth Station, except in a few customer cases. Show them a coverage plot of the customer site closest to them that points away from them thus not creating any interference. Finally, show them a coverage plot of the closest customer site that IS pointing at them but that does not reach and interfere with them. They should then clearly understand that you have engineered your network in a way that will not create interference for them. If you want, you can hit me offlist for more details. jack Brian Webster wrote: I would try buying a mailing list, map the potential customers the fall within your wireless footprint, submit that as a batch and get one approval. You could use the same information for a targeted marketing campaign. Thank You, Brian Webster pat wrote: Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is getting really annoying. Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Do you have permission from SES Americom to at least install your base station? If so, register your base station on the FCC site. Once the base station is approved, start registering your client sites. Tim > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of pat > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:59 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations > > SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. > > > > Tim Sylvester wrote: > > Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station > people? > > > > The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for > > locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of > the > > Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read > the full > > document here: > > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf > > > > This is the intro to the appendix. > > > > * > > APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS > Earth > > Station > > Protection Zone > > > > The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 > MHz > > band be located at least > > 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected > > licensees agree on closer spacing. > > Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to > > determine a safe distance within > > the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be > located > > without increasing the potential > > of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. > We > > reiterate that this is being presented > > only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are > many > > methods for providing the > > required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an > > obstruction, and that licensees are free to > > propose any method they deem appropriate. > > * > > > > I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe > distance > > for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth > station > > operator. > > > > I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two > mountain > > ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. > > > > Tim > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >> Behalf Of pat > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations > >> > >> Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to > tell > >> me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax > >> deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km > >> exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is > >> getting > >> really annoying. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Pat > >> > >> > >> > --- > >> - > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > --- > >> - > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > - > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > - > --- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Are you doing this yourself or with a help of an attorney? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. Tim Sylvester wrote: > Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station people? > > The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for > locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of the > Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read the full > document here: > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf > > This is the intro to the appendix. > > * > APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS Earth > Station > Protection Zone > > The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 MHz > band be located at least > 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected > licensees agree on closer spacing. > Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to > determine a safe distance within > the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be located > without increasing the potential > of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. We > reiterate that this is being presented > only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are many > methods for providing the > required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an > obstruction, and that licensees are free to > propose any method they deem appropriate. > * > > I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe distance > for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth station > operator. > > I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two mountain > ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. > > Tim > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of pat >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations >> >> Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell >> me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax >> deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km >> exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is >> getting >> really annoying. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pat >> >> >> --- >> - >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
pat wrote: SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. Pat...what exactly are they saying to you. It is not easy. You may have to get a 3rd party engineering firm to tdo the analysis. I dealt with COmsearch for awhile before I switched jobs. Comsearch did one or two analysis' for a Wisp and I think that was it and they dropped it off their offerings to be rethought out. Leon Tim Sylvester wrote: Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station people? The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of the Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read the full document here: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf This is the intro to the appendix. * APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS Earth Station Protection Zone The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 MHz band be located at least 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected licensees agree on closer spacing. Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to determine a safe distance within the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be located without increasing the potential of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. We reiterate that this is being presented only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are many methods for providing the required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an obstruction, and that licensees are free to propose any method they deem appropriate. * I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe distance for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth station operator. I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two mountain ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. Tim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is getting really annoying. Thanks, Pat No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.87/2356 - Release Date: 09/09/09 06:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
It sucks to be in the satellite business today. Tim > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of pat > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:59 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations > > SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. > > > > Tim Sylvester wrote: > > Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station > people? > > > > The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for > > locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of > the > > Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read > the full > > document here: > > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf > > > > This is the intro to the appendix. > > > > * > > APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS > Earth > > Station > > Protection Zone > > > > The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 > MHz > > band be located at least > > 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected > > licensees agree on closer spacing. > > Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to > > determine a safe distance within > > the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be > located > > without increasing the potential > > of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. > We > > reiterate that this is being presented > > only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are > many > > methods for providing the > > required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an > > obstruction, and that licensees are free to > > propose any method they deem appropriate. > > * > > > > I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe > distance > > for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth > station > > operator. > > > > I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two > mountain > > ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. > > > > Tim > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >> Behalf Of pat > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations > >> > >> Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to > tell > >> me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax > >> deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km > >> exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is > >> getting > >> really annoying. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Pat > >> > >> > >> > --- > >> - > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > --- > >> - > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > - > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > - > --- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
SES Americom, and they suffer from cranial rectitus. Tim Sylvester wrote: > Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station people? > > The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for > locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of the > Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read the full > document here: > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf > > This is the intro to the appendix. > > * > APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS Earth > Station > Protection Zone > > The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 MHz > band be located at least > 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected > licensees agree on closer spacing. > Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to > determine a safe distance within > the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be located > without increasing the potential > of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. We > reiterate that this is being presented > only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are many > methods for providing the > required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an > obstruction, and that licensees are free to > propose any method they deem appropriate. > * > > I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe distance > for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth station > operator. > > I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two mountain > ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. > > Tim > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of pat >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations >> >> Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell >> me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax >> deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km >> exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is >> getting >> really annoying. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pat >> >> >> --- >> - >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> - >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Who are "these people"? The FCC or the satellite earth station people? The FCC describes an alternative for determining a safe distance for locating a station with in an FSS protection zone in Appendix D of the Report and Order authorizing the 3.65 - 3.70 GHz band. You can read the full document here: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf This is the intro to the appendix. * APPENDIX D: A Methodology For Locating Fixed Stations Within The FSS Earth Station Protection Zone The rules adopted herein require that fixed stations in the 3650-3700 MHz band be located at least 150 km from any grandfathered FSS earth station unless all affected licensees agree on closer spacing. Below, we present as an example, one methodology that can be used to determine a safe distance within the FSS earth station protection zone where a fixed station can be located without increasing the potential of that station to cause harmful interference to the earth station. We reiterate that this is being presented only as an example of one methodology. We recognize that there are many methods for providing the required protection, such as locating the fixed station behind an obstruction, and that licensees are free to propose any method they deem appropriate. * I would assume that you could use this method to calculate the safe distance for operating at 3.65GHz and present it to the FCC and the FSS earth station operator. I will need to do this for my WiMAX deployment which will have two mountain ranges between the WiMAX network and the earth station. Tim > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of pat > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations > > Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell > me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax > deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km > exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is > getting > really annoying. > > Thanks, > > Pat > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz & Grandfathered satellite earth stations
Title: Thank You, I would try buying a mailing list, map the potential customers the fall within your wireless footprint, submit that as a batch and get one approval. You could use the same information for a targeted marketing campaign. Thank You, Brian Webster pat wrote: Anybody else having any luck with these people. They're trying to tell me I might have to clear all my customer sites for a proposed WiMax deployment on a case by case basis. I'm at the edge of the 150km exclusion zone and have a mountain range in between us. This is getting really annoying. Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
