Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding?
I am wondering if that would be true for companies that haven't even built out yet. Also, because they have received funding before they may choose not to fund them again unless they have already completed a successful network. It may actually be that they fund everyone else first so that other companies get an opportunity to compete. Just my .02 cents. I guess we just have to wait and see with the NTIA decides. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? Yes but, there will likely be a priority given to applicants that are previous RUS Loan recipients. When they have had loans in 17 states, that could translate to first dibs on a lot of Grants. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? > Looking at the approval dates it says 3/2008. This was long before any > talk > of stimulus mony. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Lists > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM > To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus > Funding? > > This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for > supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( > <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> > http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 > State > rollout of fixed wireless. > > > > I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found here: > <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> > http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. > > > > On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that takes > you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> > http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. > > > > This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : > > > > "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should > note > that communities associated with approved applications are no longer > eligible for RUS funding." > > > > Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? > > > > My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they > even have an application available. > > > > According to the USDA/RUS site: > <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> > http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: > > > > "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 Farm > Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, revised > application materials will be posted." > > > > Am I missing something, or is this media hype? > > > > Thanks, > > Victoria Proffer > > CEO > > StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> > > ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> > > 314.974.5600 > > SBA Certified WOSB > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@w
Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding?
Yes but, there will likely be a priority given to applicants that are previous RUS Loan recipients. When they have had loans in 17 states, that could translate to first dibs on a lot of Grants. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? > Looking at the approval dates it says 3/2008. This was long before any > talk > of stimulus mony. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Lists > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM > To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus > Funding? > > This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for > supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( > <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> > http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 > State > rollout of fixed wireless. > > > > I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found here: > <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> > http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. > > > > On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that takes > you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> > http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. > > > > This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : > > > > "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should > note > that communities associated with approved applications are no longer > eligible for RUS funding." > > > > Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? > > > > My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they > even have an application available. > > > > According to the USDA/RUS site: > <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> > http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: > > > > "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 Farm > Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, revised > application materials will be posted." > > > > Am I missing something, or is this media hype? > > > > Thanks, > > Victoria Proffer > > CEO > > StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> > > ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> > > 314.974.5600 > > SBA Certified WOSB > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding?
I was wondering how products made in Israel could be approved for a "Buy American" program. Looks like it takes a "Trade Agreement" and the ability to "pull teeth". What a concept. Patrick Leary wrote: > This will be interesting to see how it plays out. I recall the Open > Range original RFI called for using it 8 MHz in the BRS/EBS 2.5 GHz > band, but any .16e system uses 5 MHz channels. Not sure how one scales > when only a single channel can fit the owned allocation. I assume > they'll have to overlay 3.65 GHz all over the place. > > Right about now Alvarion should be pretty darned happy I secured their > RUS Acceptance and "Buy American" status for BreezeMAX before I left > them in June of 2008. As an interesting aside, did you know that a > company can achieve "Buy American" status and not have a single part > made and assembled in the U.S.? That is because, for the purposes of the > "Buy American" USDA RUS qualification, a system can also be made in > Mexico, Canada or Israel due to certain trade agreements between the > U.S. and those countries. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:07 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for > StimulusFunding? > > Looking at the approval dates it says 3/2008. This was long before any > talk of stimulus mony. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Lists > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM > To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus > Funding? > > This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for > supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( > <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> > http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 > State rollout of fixed wireless. > > > > I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found > here: > <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> > http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. > > > > On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that > takes you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> > http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. > > > > This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : > > > > "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should > note that communities associated with approved applications are no > longer eligible for RUS funding." > > > > Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? > > > > My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they > even have an application available. > > > > According to the USDA/RUS site: > <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> > http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: > > > > "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 > Farm Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, > revised application materials will be posted." > > > > Am I missing something, or is this media hype? > > > > Thanks, > > Victoria Proffer > > CEO > > StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> > > ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> > > 314.974.5600 > > SBA Certified WOSB > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscr
Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding?
It is hard not to see you as the "Chief Evangelist"... Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? This will be interesting to see how it plays out. I recall the Open Range original RFI called for using it 8 MHz in the BRS/EBS 2.5 GHz band, but any .16e system uses 5 MHz channels. Not sure how one scales when only a single channel can fit the owned allocation. I assume they'll have to overlay 3.65 GHz all over the place. Right about now Alvarion should be pretty darned happy I secured their RUS Acceptance and "Buy American" status for BreezeMAX before I left them in June of 2008. As an interesting aside, did you know that a company can achieve "Buy American" status and not have a single part made and assembled in the U.S.? That is because, for the purposes of the "Buy American" USDA RUS qualification, a system can also be made in Mexico, Canada or Israel due to certain trade agreements between the U.S. and those countries. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:07 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? Looking at the approval dates it says 3/2008. This was long before any talk of stimulus mony. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus Funding? This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 State rollout of fixed wireless. I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found here: <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that takes you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note that communities associated with approved applications are no longer eligible for RUS funding." Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they even have an application available. According to the USDA/RUS site: <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 Farm Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, revised application materials will be posted." Am I missing something, or is this media hype? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --
Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding?
This will be interesting to see how it plays out. I recall the Open Range original RFI called for using it 8 MHz in the BRS/EBS 2.5 GHz band, but any .16e system uses 5 MHz channels. Not sure how one scales when only a single channel can fit the owned allocation. I assume they'll have to overlay 3.65 GHz all over the place. Right about now Alvarion should be pretty darned happy I secured their RUS Acceptance and "Buy American" status for BreezeMAX before I left them in June of 2008. As an interesting aside, did you know that a company can achieve "Buy American" status and not have a single part made and assembled in the U.S.? That is because, for the purposes of the "Buy American" USDA RUS qualification, a system can also be made in Mexico, Canada or Israel due to certain trade agreements between the U.S. and those countries. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:07 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for StimulusFunding? Looking at the approval dates it says 3/2008. This was long before any talk of stimulus mony. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:06 AM To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Is Open Range Monopolizing 17 States for Stimulus Funding? This morning I was reading about Alvarion winning the $100MM bid for supplying Open Range network with their Breezemax product ( <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss> http://www.cellular-news.com/story/38050.php?source=rss ) for their 17 State rollout of fixed wireless. I decided to see what markets Open Range was serving, which I found here: <http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html> http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html. On that page there is a link for a complete list of communities that takes you here: <http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/> http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/. This site is the USDA/RUS site and it states : "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note that communities associated with approved applications are no longer eligible for RUS funding." Hold the phone, when did the USDA/RUS start their loan program? My understanding is that they are waiting on NTIA guidelines before they even have an application available. According to the USDA/RUS site: <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm> http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm they state: "New regulations are currently being developed to implement the 2008 Farm Bill requirements. With the publication of the new regulations, revised application materials will be posted." Am I missing something, or is this media hype? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> ShowMeBroadband.com <http://missouriruralwireless.com/> 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
