Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-17 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Yes, address books.  They are a pain.

We migrated about 900 accounts TO the Everyone.Net servers last year.  From 
2 very different mail servers, about 40 domains.

Address books were a pain in the rear.

Then there was the 2 users that were actually using the Calendar feature of 
one of the servers.  We told them "sorry, it's gone". ;)


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Lambert" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
>> I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users
>> to another provider.  Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it
>> will be, but we will do it nevertheless.
>
> Moving the mailboxes is not so bad.  Getting the webmail address books,
> that's the fun part.
>
> We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off
> everyone.net to our servers.  I have an shell script which uses imapsync
> which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server.  We
> use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run.
>
> The address books will take some manual effort.  But, you can "print"
> each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste
> it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format
> you need.  We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database.
>
> It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste.
>
> If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know.  I'll
> see if I can abstract out the sensitive information.
>
> -- 
> Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix 
> SysAdmin
> lamb...@lambertfam.org
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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-17 Thread Scott Lambert
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
> I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users 
> to another provider.  Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it 
> will be, but we will do it nevertheless.  

Moving the mailboxes is not so bad.  Getting the webmail address books,
that's the fun part.

We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off
everyone.net to our servers.  I have an shell script which uses imapsync
which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server.  We
use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run.

The address books will take some manual effort.  But, you can "print"
each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste
it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format
you need.  We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database.

It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste.

If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know.  I'll
see if I can abstract out the sensitive information.

-- 
Scott LambertKC5MLE   Unix SysAdmin
lamb...@lambertfam.org




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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Anthony
FYI, I also use everyone.net and we are not experiencing this issue.

Anthony Will
Broadband Corp.

Mark Nash wrote:
> These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance 
> window.  They have made us give them extensive information about the problem 
> we and our customers have been having.  I hope to have a resolution soon, or 
> we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider.  Anyone who's done 
> that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. 
> Right now our customers, not knowing any better, perceive this to be a 
> problem with our INTERNET connections.  That's bad.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
> 1702 W. 2nd Ave
> Suite A
> Eugene, OR 97402
> 541-998-
> 541-998-5599 fax
> http://www.unwiredwest.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck Hogg" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>
>
>   
>> I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
>> going to have maintenance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Hogg
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 502-722-9292
>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>>
>> We have been having alot of problems sending email through
>> Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
>> unavailable type messages.
>>
>> Anyone going through the same problems?
>>
>> Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
>> This message outlines our problems with them.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Justin Mann
>> To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West
>> Cc: Mark Nash
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
>> Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We are getting more "Delivery Resource Unavailable" errors from the
>> Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
>> shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
>> have issues sending email intermittently.
>>
>> I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
>> error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
>> SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
>> error message coming from Everyone.net's servers.
>>
>> We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
>> earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
>> difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
>> far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
>> have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
>> could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
>> different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
>> different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
>> your suggestion.
>>
>> When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
>> However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
>> look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
>> frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-16 Thread Mark Nash
These problems happen throughout the day, not just during their maintenance 
window.  They have made us give them extensive information about the problem 
we and our customers have been having.  I hope to have a resolution soon, or 
we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider.  Anyone who's done 
that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. 
Right now our customers, not knowing any better, perceive this to be a 
problem with our INTERNET connections.  That's bad.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
1702 W. 2nd Ave
Suite A
Eugene, OR 97402
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


>I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
> going to have maintenance.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>
> We have been having alot of problems sending email through
> Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
> unavailable type messages.
>
> Anyone going through the same problems?
>
> Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
> This message outlines our problems with them.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Justin Mann
> To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West
> Cc: Mark Nash
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
> Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We are getting more "Delivery Resource Unavailable" errors from the
> Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
> shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
> have issues sending email intermittently.
>
> I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
> error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
> SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
> error message coming from Everyone.net's servers.
>
> We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
> earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
> difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
> far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
> have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
> could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
> different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
> different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
> your suggestion.
>
> When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
> However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
> look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
> frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were
going to have maintenance.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

We have been having alot of problems sending email through
Everyone.Net's servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource
unavailable type messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.
This message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more "Delivery Resource Unavailable" errors from the
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we
have issues sending email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the
error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an
SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the
error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very
difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So
far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We
have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we
could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations,
different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs,
different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per
your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please
look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get,
frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 







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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Chuck Profito
yesterday we had a problem with them,  No an issue, the customer had her
machine date set on month in the future, thus the spam filter was rejecting
all her sent mail.  This also seemed to happen to many xp machines after
tuesdays MS up date. They had to reset the date, and if they set it
wrong

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's
servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type
messages.

Anyone going through the same problems?

Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.  This
message outlines our problems with them.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Mann 
To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
Cc: Mark Nash 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers


Hello,

We are getting more "Delivery Resource Unavailable" errors from the
Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and
shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have
issues sending email intermittently.

I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the error
message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session
has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message
coming from Everyone.net's servers. 

We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare
earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to
do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all
suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted
all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the
errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems,
different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have
even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion.

When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever.
However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look
at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently,
with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 








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Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers

2010-05-14 Thread Stuart Pierce
Good luck getting a response. The problems we have with them is I think they 
are using an outdated spam database

-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Nash - Lists" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Fri, 14 May 2010 10:20:59 -0700

>We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's 
>servers.  Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type 
>messages.
>
>Anyone going through the same problems?
>
>Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning.  This 
>message outlines our problems with them.
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Justin Mann 
>To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West 
>Cc: Mark Nash 
>Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM
>Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
>
>
>Hello,
>
>We are getting more "Delivery Resource Unavailable" errors from the 
>Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. 
>We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending 
>email intermittently.
>
>I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers;  the error 
>message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session 
>has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming 
>from Everyone.net's servers. 
>
>We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier 
>in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do 
>business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions 
>given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential 
>options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have 
>used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail 
>clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different 
>SMTP servers per your suggestion.
>
>When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. 
>However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at 
>the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with 
>both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
 





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