Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Correct.  The v3.x x86 routers we have running do show multiple CPUs.  For
example we have a handful of 1U servers with dual Xeon 3GHz CPUs deployed as
CPE routers for a few new larger accounts and they show four processors.  We
are running BGP with these accounts and the additional CPU support does make
a notable difference.

For example with a single CPU processor count the Winbox GUI will show 100%
CPU utilization while pulling the approximately 270k routes.  With a two CPU
count the utilization while pulling down full tables is 50% and with a four
CPU count the utilization is 25%.

This chart shows the dual Xeon 3GHz CPU at 1113.  Our most recent x86
MikroTik routers are using the Q9550 CPU at 4076 and the X3360 CPU that
rates at 4251.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Best,


Brad


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On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
> support, unless it was added recently.

Depends on what you call "recent"...from the changelog:
What's new in v3.0beta1:
*) added initial support for SMP on x86;

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thats great news then.

I thought I'd share another detailNOt to high jack the thread A 
month ago, I was asking about what MT boards supported long range CAT5 
(450ft).
After much investigation, I was told that ONLY the 4 port NIC cards 
supported it, not any of the SBCs. It was also represented that it was 
feasible that it would only work well if the RB44 NIC was used on BOTH sides 
of the 450ft cable.  We'll it appears that MT does better than spec.

We used a RB44 on the ground and a StarOS X4000 at 425ft. (X4000 only has 
standard 330ft range support). We managed to run 100mbps with a perfect 
ethernet link. We where using Superior Essex CAt5, running 48V POE the full 
425 feet. I was really surprized it worked. But it worked really well. So 
that MT RB44 was golden!

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>> Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor
>> support, unless it was added recently.
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> What's new in v3.0beta1:
> *) added initial support for SMP on x86;
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 03:18 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
> support, unless it was added recently.

Depends on what you call "recent"...from the changelog:
What's new in v3.0beta1:
*) added initial support for SMP on x86;

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (wasCisco VLAN help)

2008-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually that is a good point. I do not believe MT has Multi-processor 
support, unless it was added recently.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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> One question I really would love to hear the answer to..
>
> What version of 3.x are you using (if any) on those multi core/processor
> Mikrotiks?
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Brad Belton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I didn't want to hijack Travis's Cisco thread, but wanted to throw in my
>> .02
>> regarding MikroTik as a core router.
>>
>>
>> We began running MikroTik as a core router sometime back in 2004 when our
>> Cisco VXR DS3 router started to struggle.  We purchased a couple LMC DS3
>> NICs from Eje at Wisp-Router and haven't looked back since.
>>
>> It was better than three years ago when we bench tested more than 800Mbps
>> between MikroTik routers using older Intel Pro fiber NICs and standard
>> 32bit
>> PCI slots.  Over the years we have deployed numerous MikroTik routers 
>> with
>> 24 or more 10/100 Interfaces, and several MikroTik routers with multiple
>> Intel GigE Copper and Fiber Interfaces.
>>
>> Today our MikroTik routers have evolved to include motherboards with
>> multiple PCIe x8 & x16 lane expansion slots, Quad core CPUs, 2Gig RAM,
>> redundant hot-swap power supplies and multiple six port SFP NICs.  This
>> latest generation of MikroTik router we are deploying are extremely fast,
>> flexible, cost effective and most importantly reliable.
>>
>> The SFP NICs allow us to easily swap Interfaces from Copper GigE to SX
>> fiber, LX fiber, ZX Fiber...all hot-swap without requiring the router to 
>> be
>> powered down or rebooted.  The power supplies are diverse and redundant.
>>  We
>> can lose either power feed or power module or any combination of the two
>> and
>> still keep the router powered up.
>>
>> We are currently peering with three GigE upstream providers with a fourth
>> GigE provider being turned up this week for unprecedented capacity and
>> diversity for an ISP our size.  We are already exploring and evaluating
>> 10GigE Interfaces as our requirements continue to increase.  We have no
>> reason to believe the MikroTik platform will not continue to deliver the
>> exceptional performance we have become accustomed to.
>>
>> Every client gets a MikroTik CPE router that we own and manage regardless
>> of
>> the medium used (microwave, copper, fiber etc.) to deliver their data
>> circuit.  A MikroTik as a client CPE router gives us terrific flexibility
>> and diagnostic abilities.  MikroTik allows us to provide the detailed
>> information required to identify and resolve problems at the client side
>> quickly and efficiently.  We have made countless "IT Guys" heroes in the
>> eyes of their employers more times than I care to remember.  
>>
>> I firmly believe we would not be where we are today, offering the level 
>> of
>> service we are able to provide without MikroTik at the core of our 
>> network.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:42 PM
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>>
>> We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual
>> PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports
>> per Router
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
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>>
>> I answer with a question.  What makes you think they couldn't do 100
>> megs?
>> I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9