Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

2014-12-01 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sorry...  I confused this with the wrong thread.  I will crawl back in my hole 
now.




> On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Bob M  wrote:
> 
> guys. I'm not looking for solar system. I'm not looking for d_c power plant. 
> I know all about those I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a stupid 
> simple economical u_p_s with an snmp card to power this radio for maybe 5 
> minutes. Just long enoigh to send me an SNMP command to say "Hey the ac power 
> is gone ...don't bother driving out here." That's all I'm looking for.
> 
> Now does anyone have any thoughts.  These are not CPE locations. They are 
> commercial hubs.
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Sean Heskett  
> Date:12/01/2014 1:48 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List  
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations... 
> 
> You'll need to do some math first.
> 
> How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily usage.  
> Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably will).  
> For instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts.  In Florida on dec 
> 21st you should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are government charts 
> that can tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts this is your array 
> size (solar panels) 
> 
> Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no 
> sunlight??
> in Florida you will probably only need a couple days.  2400 * 2 = 4800watt 
> hours ( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go 
> below 50%) 4800*2= 9600watt hours.  This is your storage capacity (batteries)
> 
> So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels.  Three 200watt 
> 24vdc panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how much 
> expansion you want this site to be able to handle.
> 
> For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts.  They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt 
> hours.  So you'll need 4.  Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then 
> those 2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc)
> 
> For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT chargers.  
> But any MPPT controller is fine. 
> 
> Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!!
> 
> We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they will 
> answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Sean
> 
> p.s.  The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of draw, 
> 2 days of runtime in Florida etc.  you'll need to adjust accordingly to your 
> needs. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo  wrote:
>> I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar.  Needs to run a MT 2011 
>> router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios.  Would like it to be 24v based since 
>> that is what all the equipment requires.  Also a battery recommendation 
>> would be super, controller etc.  Its all being mounted outside on a pipe 
>> which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft.  Just need the shopping 
>> list to make this happen.  I appreciate your input and your time, thanks.
>>  
>> Scott Carullo
>> Technical Operations
>> 855-FLSPEED x102
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Wrong thread, Bob. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Bob M"  
To: "WISPA General List" , sc...@brevardwireless.com 
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 2:30:52 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations... 


guys. I'm not looking for solar system. I'm not looking for d_c power plant. I 
know all about those I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a stupid simple 
economical u_p_s with an snmp card to power this radio for maybe 5 minutes. 
Just long enoigh to send me an SNMP command to say "Hey the ac power is gone 
...don't bother driving out here." That's all I'm looking for. 


Now does anyone have any thoughts. These are not CPE locations. They are 
commercial hubs. 




Bob 





Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 


 Original message  
From: Sean Heskett  
Date:12/01/2014 1:48 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations... 

You'll need to do some math first. 


How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily usage. 
Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably will). For 
instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts. In Florida on dec 21st you 
should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are government charts that can 
tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts this is your array size (solar 
panels) 


Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no 
sunlight?? 
in Florida you will probably only need a couple days. 2400 * 2 = 4800watt hours 
( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go below 50%) 
4800*2= 9600watt hours. This is your storage capacity (batteries) 


So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels. Three 200watt 24vdc 
panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how much 
expansion you want this site to be able to handle. 


For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts. They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt 
hours. So you'll need 4. Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then those 
2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc) 


For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT chargers. 
But any MPPT controller is fine. 


Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!! 


We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they will 
answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc. 


Good luck! 


Sean 


p.s. The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of draw, 2 
days of runtime in Florida etc. you'll need to adjust accordingly to your 
needs. 





On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo < sc...@brevardwireless.com > wrote: 



I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar. Needs to run a MT 2011 
router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios. Would like it to be 24v based since that 
is what all the equipment requires. Also a battery recommendation would be 
super, controller etc. Its all being mounted outside on a pipe which is chain 
mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft. Just need the shopping list to make this 
happen. I appreciate your input and your time, thanks. 

Scott Carullo 
Technical Operations 
855-FLSPEED x102 




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Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I think you're in a different thread or maybe I'm missing something.  Bob,
I think you just need a SiteMonitor.   Volts1 for utility and volts2 for
your DC load/batteries.  If volts1 <110 (11v) than page.  I wrote an old
sh/bash script that did it but nowadays I'm using Powercode.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Bob M  wrote:

> guys. I'm not looking for solar system. I'm not looking for d_c power
> plant. I know all about those I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a
> stupid simple economical u_p_s with an snmp card to power this radio for
> maybe 5 minutes. Just long enoigh to send me an SNMP command to say "Hey
> the ac power is gone ...don't bother driving out here." That's all I'm
> looking for.
>
> Now does anyone have any thoughts.  These are not CPE locations. They are
> commercial hubs.
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Sean Heskett 
> Date:12/01/2014 1:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...
>
> You'll need to do some math first.
>
> How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily
> usage.  Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably
> will).  For instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts.  In
> Florida on dec 21st you should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are
> government charts that can tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts
> this is your array size (solar panels)
>
> Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no
> sunlight??
> in Florida you will probably only need a couple days.  2400 * 2 = 4800watt
> hours ( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go
> below 50%) 4800*2= 9600watt hours.  This is your storage capacity
> (batteries)
>
> So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels.  Three 200watt
> 24vdc panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how
> much expansion you want this site to be able to handle.
>
> For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts.  They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt
> hours.  So you'll need 4.  Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then
> those 2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc)
>
> For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT
> chargers.  But any MPPT controller is fine.
>
> Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!!
>
> We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they
> will answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Sean
>
> p.s.  The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of
> draw, 2 days of runtime in Florida etc.  you'll need to adjust
> accordingly to your needs.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar.  Needs to run a MT
>> 2011 router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios.  Would like it to be 24v based
>> since that is what all the equipment requires.  Also a battery
>> recommendation would be super, controller etc.  Its all being mounted
>> outside on a pipe which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft.  Just
>> need the shopping list to make this happen.  I appreciate your input and
>> your time, thanks.
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Technical Operations
>> 855-FLSPEED x102
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

2014-12-01 Thread Bob M
guys. I'm not looking for solar system. I'm not looking for d_c power plant. I 
know all about those I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for a stupid simple 
economical u_p_s with an snmp card to power this radio for maybe 5 minutes. 
Just long enoigh to send me an SNMP command to say "Hey the ac power is gone 
...don't bother driving out here." That's all I'm looking for.

Now does anyone have any thoughts.  These are not CPE locations. They are 
commercial hubs.


Bob


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Sean Heskett  
Date:12/01/2014  1:48 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations... 

You'll need to do some math first.

How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily usage.  
Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably will).  For 
instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts.  In Florida on dec 21st 
you should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are government charts that 
can tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts this is your array size 
(solar panels) 

Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no 
sunlight??
in Florida you will probably only need a couple days.  2400 * 2 = 4800watt 
hours ( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go below 
50%) 4800*2= 9600watt hours.  This is your storage capacity (batteries)

So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels.  Three 200watt 24vdc 
panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how much 
expansion you want this site to be able to handle.

For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts.  They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt 
hours.  So you'll need 4.  Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then 
those 2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc)

For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT chargers.  
But any MPPT controller is fine. 

Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!!

We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they will 
answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc.

Good luck!

Sean

p.s.  The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of draw, 2 
days of runtime in Florida etc.  you'll need to adjust accordingly to your 
needs. 



On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo  wrote:
I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar.  Needs to run a MT 2011 
router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios.  Would like it to be 24v based since that 
is what all the equipment requires.  Also a battery recommendation would be 
super, controller etc.  Its all being mounted outside on a pipe which is chain 
mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft.  Just need the shopping list to make this 
happen.  I appreciate your input and your time, thanks.
 
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


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Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

2014-12-01 Thread Sean Heskett
You'll need to do some math first.

How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily
usage.  Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably
will).  For instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts.  In
Florida on dec 21st you should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are
government charts that can tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts
this is your array size (solar panels)

Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no
sunlight??
in Florida you will probably only need a couple days.  2400 * 2 = 4800watt
hours ( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go
below 50%) 4800*2= 9600watt hours.  This is your storage capacity
(batteries)

So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels.  Three 200watt
24vdc panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how
much expansion you want this site to be able to handle.

For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts.  They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt
hours.  So you'll need 4.  Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then
those 2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc)

For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT
chargers.  But any MPPT controller is fine.

Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!!

We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they
will answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc.

Good luck!

Sean

p.s.  The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of
draw, 2 days of runtime in Florida etc.  you'll need to adjust accordingly
to your needs.



On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo 
wrote:

> I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar.  Needs to run a MT
> 2011 router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios.  Would like it to be 24v based
> since that is what all the equipment requires.  Also a battery
> recommendation would be super, controller etc.  Its all being mounted
> outside on a pipe which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft.  Just
> need the shopping list to make this happen.  I appreciate your input and
> your time, thanks.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
>
>
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