Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:28, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell Custommer was concerned. It said not compatiable with wireless. Also, says requires 1 mbps but does not say what direction. Tried to tell him to just make sure he can return it if there is an issue. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
Interesting. Yet another pay for service company passing the transport onto ISPs for free. Good idea on their part though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:28, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
I have one in my office and home. Uses about 50k full duplex per phone conversation up to 3 so a total of 150kbps full duplex. I do not see a problem with any of my customers usiung them. Works flawless. Reason Verizon is telling them it doesn't work with wireless is they are assuming your wireless is satellite. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
I have at least one customer using this. VZ installed it for them, I think. They would certainly know it is a fixed wireless connection. On 12/16/2010 12:53 PM, Matt wrote: Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell Custommer was concerned. It said not compatiable with wireless. Also, says requires 1 mbps but does not say what direction. Tried to tell him to just make sure he can return it if there is an issue. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
It requires GPS (which most people not in caves have) and about 60k connection both ways per conversation (up to 3 conversations). It creates an IPSEC VPN out to Verizon that the voice traffic goes over. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:28, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender
I have customers in 2+ story stucco houses with tile roofs. They might as well be caves! On 12/16/2010 02:05 PM, Philip Dorr wrote: It requires GPS (which most people not in caves have) and about 60k connection both ways per conversation (up to 3 conversations). It creates an IPSEC VPN out to Verizon that the voice traffic goes over. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM, David E. Smithd...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:28, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if the phone is being used for cellular data that will increase the usage somewhat. Since the device requires broadband anyway, if the phone has wi-fi, just use it instead of EVDO; you'll probably get better performance. I vaguely remember reading that all calls and data transactions from a femtocell like this have to be tunneled through the carrier's network for CALEA purposes, which would obviously add latency, but I don't have a cite for this statement. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
