Providing wireless on a tour bus
Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
I know the Megabus does. http://www.saucontds.com/us/index.html Pete M. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
Not that I have used it in a vehicle but you may want to look at D-Link's DIR-450 or similar. The 450 takes a 3g pc card and is a NAT router with wifi and 4 ethernet ports. David Bulanda Network Services Manager Indiana Tech www.indianatech.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
Never used it personally, but our bus people were developing they're own, and scrapped it when Cisco Shipped this in 2002: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps272/index.html Looks like its EOL/EOS, and has a note to contact this email 3200transit...@cisco.com for alternative products On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Bulanda, Dave G dgbula...@indianatech.edu wrote: Not that I have used it in a vehicle but you may want to look at D-Link's DIR-450 or similar. The 450 takes a 3g pc card and is a NAT router with wifi and 4 ethernet ports. David Bulanda Network Services Manager Indiana Tech www.indianatech.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
You might want to look at Cradlepoint - http://www.cradlepoint.com/. Never used one on a bus be we use them in a few remote classrooms where we cannot setup anything long term. Gives you the option to have more than 5 users and multiple vendors by just swapping out the USB modem. Tim Wier Network Manager Concordia University tim.w...@cuchicago.edu 708-209-3565 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
Another choice may be http://www.hobnob.com/ . This is the managed solution that Google uses for their staff commuter buses in Silicon Valley. This solution connects to the 4 major US carriers and aggregates traffic using multiple radio cards to each carrier. This way they are able to get more complete network coverage. If one carrier has a dead spot, the system switches to another carrier. They are able to achieve 100Kbits/sec or better. The guy from Google who presented this was very positive about the performance. Fred On 12/14/2010 8:39 AM, Wier, Timothy A. wrote: You might want to look at Cradlepoint - http://www.cradlepoint.com/. Never used one on a bus be we use them in a few remote classrooms where we cannot setup anything long term. Gives you the option to have more than 5 users and multiple vendors by just swapping out the USB modem. Tim Wier Network Manager Concordia University tim.w...@cuchicago.edu 708-209-3565 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. attachment: fred.vcf
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mount hidden or in plain view in dorms?
For mild cases of tampering by unplugging cables on access points we have utilized this product with success: http://cableorganizer.com/panduit/rj45-plug-lock-in-device/ It might save having to move the access points if you want to maintain a particular coverage pattern from an access point in a hallway... Dave Barr -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mount hidden or in plain view in dorms? Our's are in plain sight and we have a problem with students unplugging the ethernet cable from them on a very regular basis. We are going to try moving them into dorm rooms (still in plain sight) so we're hoping that by doing this it will deter people from messing with them since we'll know who to blame. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Original Message - We've opted to place APs in plain sight. All new APs have a label attached that reads Damage to or theft of this unit results in a charge of $xxx to all residents. Since we just started that this year, I can't tell you yet how effective it will be, but seemed like a good idea. Scott Scott Lowe Vice President Chief Information Officer Information Technology Services Westminster College 501 Westminster Avenue Fulton, Missouri 65251 IT Help Desk: 573-592-5169 (V) 573-592-5289 (F) 573-592-6235 Twitter: @otherscottlowe IT will never ask for your password via email. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
At Liberty University, we are using some of Aruba's RAP-5WN Access points to provide Wi-Fi for scamming student IDs on our intramural athletic fields. The access point is battery powered and uses a 3G cellular data modem to tunnel back to one of our wireless controllers. We house this solution in a netbook shoulder bag. This solution could be adapted to tour bus usage. I can share more details if you are interested. I have seem tour bus vendors reselling Cradlepoint's solution with a cellular backhaul. One caveat I saw in some documentation for WiMax modems is that they use 2.5 MHz and you may need to disable 2.4MHz channels on the Cradlepoint router. For a non-Aruba shop, the Hobnob solution mentioned by Fred looks interesting. One that I had when researching a tour bus solution earlier was dead spots in cellular coverage. It looks like Hobnob may have solved that challenge. Bruce Osborne Liberty University -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus
You may want to look at CradlePoint mobile routers. I have personally used the CTR500 with a Verizon USB760 to provide wireless in/around my car for some time, which has worked excellent. The CradlePoint devices can even be configured to failover from one cellular connection to another (even on a different carrier), if coverage issues are a concern for traveling cross country. If you're concerned about bandwidth, the MBR1200 can be populated with up to five cellular modems and load balance (round-robin, not by bandwidth utilization) across them. I would advise you to proceed with caution if attempting to use 3G/4G devices, since switching between 3G and 4G is usually not seamless and may happen too frequently when mobile. -- Doug Hoffman Network and Systems Administrator Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Providing wireless on a tour bus Has anyone installed a wireless system on a tour bus that is traveling cross country? Our athletics department would like to outfit their bus for long trips to games. My first thought was to get enough mobile hotspots (perhaps from various vendors) to cover the number of users at 5 users each (the typical limit). I could also try a 4G USB modem bridged across a small PC to share that link. For best signal, I imagine that an antenna on the roof would be best. Has anyone done this before? Thanks, Nathan Nathan P. Hay Network Engineer, Computer Services Cedarville University 937-766-7905 www.cedarville.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://linkcheck.bloomu.edu/oBEFOOEi030514/http/www.educause.edu/group s/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
