RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

2011-04-18 Thread Jan-Bart Hilhorst
All,

7.0.116.0 is also available, though you could also wait for the 7.0MR1, which 
according to Cisco will be released in May 2011.

Regards,

Jan-Bart Hilhorst

Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens paulle
Verzonden: zaterdag 16 april 2011 22:49
Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

Folks, there is new code maintenance release posted to CCO that has bug fixes. 
Since the problems are hard to pin down you may want consider upgrading to this 
code to see if it makes a difference.

The release to consider is 7.0.98.218.

Cheers


On 4/15/11 10:17 PM, Watters, John john.watt...@ua.edu wrote:
I have the exact same issue in several locations on campus -- a couple in 
dorms, and a couple in academic buildings. I have not actually been able to see 
the problem (you were lucky there), but the description (from numerous sources) 
is identical. And, not just MACs, but many/most devices including PCs (Win 7  
XP) and various phones. No help from Cisco so far. But, since I don't have a 
machine that always fails (it seems that you might have access to at least one 
of these), nor can I recreate the problem, I can understand why Cisco is not 
doing very much to help me. I have certified all my WiSM  AP configs with the 
Cisco WLC Config Analyzer tool. Made a couple of minor adjustments that didn't 
seem to make any difference with this problem (or any that I am seeing). Turned 
off all b access too (I had previously limited it to 11 Mbps only). No clues at 
all. But, the reports still stream in at a rate of 3-4/week with none of them 
resolved. Started having the problem with the 6.0.199.4 code and it persists 
with the 7.0.98.0 code that I am now running (at Cisco's request; it has been 
rock solid as far as I can tell).

I thought I had it narrowed down a while back, but maybe not. We have seen 
times when a machines fails to get an ARP entry even after getting a good DHCP 
address. Obviously, no traffic ever went to or from the device with this entry 
missing. It was easy to duplicate too. When a machine got into this state, it 
would stay in it as long as it was associated with an AP on one controller. 
When it went to another controller (not via a roam, but with a new association) 
it would be fine. When it came back under the control of the original 
controller, it would have the problem again, even several days later. It could 
only be cured by rebooting the WiSM controller. This seems to have gone away 
with the 7.0.98.0 code though.

I think my current problem, and yours is not related to the missing ARP problem.

Please let me know if you get even a clue as to what is happening. I will do 
the same. I am under a lot of pressure to solve this.

-jcw

===
John Watters
Network Engineer
The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lay, Daniel 
[dl...@samford.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 5:20 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

I have run into a very odd issue. We have received complaints from students 
that they are having wireless issues in specific dorm areas. After receiving 
such a report I went to investigate, I walked the entire dorm connecting to 
each AP with several devices(an iphone, an Ipad, a XOOM tablet, and a laptop) 
and everything worked exactly as it was supposed to. The next morning as I was 
sharing my findings with the helpdesk guys 2 students walked in, and as luck 
would have it they were from the same dorm that I had just verified the evening 
before. So we went back to the dorm to look at it from their device
So now we are back at the dorm looking at a student's Mac Book 
Pro. When the student is anywhere else on campus it works just fine on wireless 
with any SSID. In his room however we cannot Tx/Rx to the network or to  
internet. One strange thing to note here is that while his machine could not 
Transmit or receive data it did get an IP address from DHCP. I was also able to 
connect to the same AP with my IPAD and XOOM and then open Wireless Control 
System and look back at the students machine. I wiped his connection and 
started from the beginning only to arrive at the same result. I then moved his 
system to another location and reset his connections. I moved back to his room 
and it still would not function. I reset the AP and then it started working. I 
would say well it comes down to a simple reset but having several connections 
that are working fine and several connections that are not working all on the 
same AP is concerning. I have about 3 locations on campus that are experiencing 
this same behavior. I have rebooted them but it still seems to be having the 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MERU wireless

2011-04-18 Thread Randy Ethridge
Thanks for all the great feedback, it is appreciated. I have another question 
regarding coexisting. Did anyone have Meru and Cisco running at the same time 
and what issues did you see. Obviously with our current state of funding we 
can't fork-lift replace our entire Cisco wireless system so they would need to 
coexist for the duration of funding the replacements. 

Randy Ethridge 
Network Engineer V 
Information Services 
Eastern Illinois University 
rlethri...@eiu.edu 

Proud to say I am EIU 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MERU wireless

2011-04-18 Thread Jason Hall
I have Meru running along side Cisco and 5G access points without any 
issues.  As I introduce Meru APs, I perform a site survey and try and 
use a channel not being used by the Cisco APs.  I still use the Meru 
single-cell architecture as I complete each building and phase out all 
the older gear.

I hope this helps,--

Jason R. Hall
Denison University
Network Engineer
ha...@denison.edu
Desk:  740-587-6229
Cell:  740-973-5754

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

2011-04-18 Thread Mike King
Anyone running 7.0.116.0, have you played with the Office Extend Feature?
 I've had a NAT bug filed against it, and it states that it's resolved in
7.0.116.0, but has not further details.  (It's classified as a bug, but it
was more of a design defect, and I'm wondering how they fixed it.)

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Jan-Bart Hilhorst 
jan-bart.hilho...@imtech.nl wrote:

  All,



 7.0.116.0 is also available, though you could also wait for the 7.0MR1,
 which according to Cisco will be released in May 2011.



 *Regards,*

 * *

 *Jan-Bart Hilhorst*



 *Van:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *Namens *paulle
 *Verzonden:* zaterdag 16 april 2011 22:49
 *Aan:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Onderwerp:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem



 Folks, there is new code maintenance release posted to CCO that has bug
 fixes. Since the problems are hard to pin down you may want consider
 upgrading to this code to see if it makes a difference.

 The release to consider is 7.0.98.218.

 Cheers


 On 4/15/11 10:17 PM, Watters, John john.watt...@ua.edu wrote:

 I have the exact same issue in several locations on campus -- a couple in
 dorms, and a couple in academic buildings. I have not actually been able to
 see the problem (you were lucky there), but the description (from numerous
 sources) is identical. And, not just MACs, but many/most devices including
 PCs (Win 7  XP) and various phones. No help from Cisco so far. But, since I
 don't have a machine that always fails (it seems that you might have access
 to at least one of these), nor can I recreate the problem, I can understand
 why Cisco is not doing very much to help me. I have certified all my WiSM 
 AP configs with the Cisco WLC Config Analyzer tool. Made a couple of minor
 adjustments that didn't seem to make any difference with this problem (or
 any that I am seeing). Turned off all b access too (I had previously limited
 it to 11 Mbps only). No clues at all. But, the reports still stream in at a
 rate of 3-4/week with none of them resolved. Started having the problem with
 the 6.0.199.4 code and it persists with the 7.0.98.0 code that I am now
 running (at Cisco's request; it has been rock solid as far as I can tell).

 I thought I had it narrowed down a while back, but maybe not. We have seen
 times when a machines fails to get an ARP entry even after getting a good
 DHCP address. Obviously, no traffic ever went to or from the device with
 this entry missing. It was easy to duplicate too. When a machine got into
 this state, it would stay in it as long as it was associated with an AP on
 one controller. When it went to another controller (not via a roam, but with
 a new association) it would be fine. When it came back under the control of
 the original controller, it would have the problem again, even several days
 later. It could only be cured by rebooting the WiSM controller. This seems
 to have gone away with the 7.0.98.0 code though.

 I think my current problem, and yours is not related to the missing ARP
 problem.

 Please let me know if you get even a clue as to what is happening. I will
 do the same. I am under a lot of pressure to solve this.

 -jcw

 ===
 John Watters
 Network Engineer
 The University of Alabama
 Office of Information Technology
 205-348-3992



 
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lay, Daniel [
 dl...@samford.edu]
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 5:20 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

 I have run into a very odd issue. We have received complaints from students
 that they are having wireless issues in specific dorm areas. After receiving
 such a report I went to investigate, I walked the entire dorm connecting to
 each AP with several devices(an iphone, an Ipad, a XOOM tablet, and a
 laptop) and everything worked exactly as it was supposed to. The next
 morning as I was sharing my findings with the helpdesk guys 2 students
 walked in, and as luck would have it they were from the same dorm that I had
 just verified the evening before. So we went back to the dorm to look at it
 from their device
 So now we are back at the dorm looking at a student’s Mac
 Book Pro. When the student is anywhere else on campus it works just fine on
 wireless with any SSID. In his room however we cannot Tx/Rx to the network
 or to  internet. One strange thing to note here is that while his machine
 could not Transmit or receive data it did get an IP address from DHCP. I was
 also able to connect to the same AP with my IPAD and XOOM and then open
 Wireless Control System and look back at the students machine. I wiped his
 connection and started from the beginning only to arrive at the same result.
 I then moved his system to another location and 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

2011-04-18 Thread Trenton W Hurt
I just upgraded my test/lab 5508 with it. I have some 1142s , 1252s, and 3502is 
running off of it now.  I'm not running office extend feature though.  I have 
been told that this is going to be MR1.  Can anyone else confirm or deny this?
 
Thanks,
 
Trent

 
Trenton Hurt
Wireless Network Administrator
University of Louisville
Phone (502) 852-1513
FAX (502) 852-1424
 Mike King m...@mpking.com 4/18/2011 7:54 PM 
Anyone running 7.0.116.0, have you played with the Office Extend Feature? I've 
had a NAT bug filed against it, and it states that it's resolved in 7.0.116.0, 
but has not further details. (It's classified as a bug, but it was more of a 
design defect, and I'm wondering how they fixed it.)

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Jan-Bart Hilhorst 
jan-bart.hilho...@imtech.nl wrote:



All,

7.0.116.0 is also available, though you could also wait for the 7.0MR1, which 
according to Cisco will be released in May 2011. 


Regards,

Jan-Bart Hilhorst



Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens paulle
Verzonden: zaterdag 16 april 2011 22:49
Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem


Folks, there is new code maintenance release posted to CCO that has bug fixes. 
Since the problems are hard to pin down you may want consider upgrading to this 
code to see if it makes a difference. 

The release to consider is 7.0.98.218.

Cheers


On 4/15/11 10:17 PM, Watters, John john.watt...@ua.edu wrote:
I have the exact same issue in several locations on campus -- a couple in 
dorms, and a couple in academic buildings. I have not actually been able to see 
the problem (you were lucky there), but the description (from numerous sources) 
is identical. And, not just MACs, but many/most devices including PCs (Win 7  
XP) and various phones. No help from Cisco so far. But, since I don't have a 
machine that always fails (it seems that you might have access to at least one 
of these), nor can I recreate the problem, I can understand why Cisco is not 
doing very much to help me. I have certified all my WiSM  AP configs with the 
Cisco WLC Config Analyzer tool. Made a couple of minor adjustments that didn't 
seem to make any difference with this problem (or any that I am seeing). Turned 
off all b access too (I had previously limited it to 11 Mbps only). No clues at 
all. But, the reports still stream in at a rate of 3-4/week with none of them 
resolved. Started having the problem with the 6.0.199.4 code and it persists 
with the 7.0.98.0 code that I am now running (at Cisco's request; it has been 
rock solid as far as I can tell).

I thought I had it narrowed down a while back, but maybe not. We have seen 
times when a machines fails to get an ARP entry even after getting a good DHCP 
address. Obviously, no traffic ever went to or from the device with this entry 
missing. It was easy to duplicate too. When a machine got into this state, it 
would stay in it as long as it was associated with an AP on one controller. 
When it went to another controller (not via a roam, but with a new association) 
it would be fine. When it came back under the control of the original 
controller, it would have the problem again, even several days later. It could 
only be cured by rebooting the WiSM controller. This seems to have gone away 
with the 7.0.98.0 code though.

I think my current problem, and yours is not related to the missing ARP problem.

Please let me know if you get even a clue as to what is happening. I will do 
the same. I am under a lot of pressure to solve this.

-jcw

===
John Watters
Network Engineer
The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992 ( tel:205-348-3992 )




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lay, Daniel 
[dl...@samford.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 5:20 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Strange Cisco AP problem

I have run into a very odd issue. We have received complaints from students 
that they are having wireless issues in specific dorm areas. After receiving 
such a report I went to investigate, I walked the entire dorm connecting to 
each AP with several devices(an iphone, an Ipad, a XOOM tablet, and a laptop) 
and everything worked exactly as it was supposed to. The next morning as I was 
sharing my findings with the helpdesk guys 2 students walked in, and as luck 
would have it they were from the same dorm that I had just verified the evening 
before. So we went back to the dorm to look at it from their device
So now we are back at the dorm looking at a student’s Mac Book Pro. When the 
student is anywhere else on campus it works just fine on wireless with any 
SSID. In his room however we cannot Tx/Rx to the network or to internet. One 
strange thing to note here is that while his