Re: Android phones having strange issues

[Richard Nedwich]

Hi Bruce,

Yes, our Wizard and Cloudpath ES products do officially support Oreo.

Thanks,
Rich

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

RE: Issues with TCL Roku TVs

[Johnson, Christopher]

Hi Kevin,

Not using Cisco APs, but we’re running Aruba 6.5.3.1 (205H) APs and we actually 
have seen a few of the TCL Roku Tvs and they are working. Assuming that’s the 
same $138 one they’re selling at Wal-Mart at the end-caps/middle aisles.

-  We have a “-“ in our SSID with a mix of capital-letters

-  Data Rates

o   Basic rates – 6

o   Transmit (Supported) - 6, 9, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, 54

I was trying to get a packet-capture of some of the management frames but I’m 
relying on the students actually putting “TCL” in the device registration to 
actually identify a TCL Roku client (only 3) – but we have about 18 in that OUI 
range (although another one says Insignia) so hard to say.

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on 
Facebook and 
Twitter
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Operations)
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:51 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Issues with TCL Roku TVs

We have a special SSID deployed to a few areas for devices that require the 
lower rates in order to associate. We use MAC Auth to restrict who can use it.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Mccormick, Kevin [mailto:ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Issues with TCL Roku TVs

We do have dashes in the names.

That is a thought, and could test that out.

Not sure we would change all the SSIDs just to get one brand of TVs to work.

Kevin 
McCormick
Network Administrator
University Technology - Western Illinois University
ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu | (309) 
298-1335 | Morgan Hall 106b
Connect with uTech: Website | 
Facebook | 
Twitter
[http://www.wiu.edu/university_technology/images/signatures/currentimage.jpg]

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Francis Walker 
> wrote:

Hi Kevin, just a shot in the dark here, but would your SSID's contain any 
special characters?  I have had seen problems with certain TV's where they 
won't associate if the SSID had certain special characters in it.


Thanks,
Joe

Joe Walker
Computing and Telecommunication Services
Kansas State University
(785)532-4997
f...@ksu.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> 
on behalf of Mccormick, Kevin 
>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:08:06 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Issues with TCL Roku TVs

We took a test AP from the test network up to the room and connected.

Before I left to go there I set the data rate to the defaults, all the default 
b/g data rates were active on the AP.

None of the test SSIDs would show on the TV when we scanned for networks.

Kevin 
McCormick
Network Administrator
University Technology - Western Illinois University
ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu | (309) 
298-1335 | Morgan Hall 106b
Connect with uTech: Website | 
Facebook | 
Twitter
[http://www.wiu.edu/university_technology/images/signatures/currentimage.jpg]

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Norton, Thomas (Network Operations) 
> wrote:
Have you tried enabling 1, or 5.5? I agree with Kelly, if enabled I would def 
disable 802.11r to see if it could be affecting it.  I still highly recommend 
completing a wpcap to understand the client behavior.
T.J. Norton
Wireless Network Architect
Network Operations - Wireless

(434) 592-6552

[http://www.liberty.edu/media/1616/40themail/wordmark-for-email.jpg]

Liberty University  |  Training Champions for Christ since 1971

On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Slone, Kelly 
> wrote:
Do you have 802.11r enabled?  If so test with it disabled.   We've been seeing 
this behavior with other devices when 802.11r is enabled.

Thanks,
Kelly Slone

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Mccormick, Kevin 
> 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Jeffrey D. Sessler]

At the appropriate discount for EDU, the AIR-PWRINJ6= is only slightly more 
than the third-parties and fully supported by TAC.

Personally, if you have to power more than six in one location, invest the 
money in a new switch with UPoE so you’re covered for the next 7-10+ years.

Jeff

From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"  
on behalf of Jason Watts 
Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 

Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 6:27 AM
To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully 
power one or more 2802i APs?

I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and small 
so long as it is non-Cisco.
The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port injector 
from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part number” 
small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.

So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond providing 
15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.

Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing



** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Travis Kershner]

SUNY Geneseo has a handful of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Ethernet-Injector-Distances-TPE-115GI/dp/B00BK4W8TQ 
in production and they work great with 2800's.


-Travis Kershner


Jason Watts 
Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:26 AM
Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to 
fully power one or more 2802i APs?


I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big 
and small so long as it is non-Cisco.
The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port 
injector from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part 
number” small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.


So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond 
providing 15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.


Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.

Thanks,

*Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator

*PRATT INSTITUTE*
Academic Computing




** Participation and subscription information for this 
EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
http://www.educause.edu/discuss.






**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Samuel Clements]

Yeah, it's a straight up 'good' injector. We don't usually attach switches
to them - just laptops, but that should be functionally identical to using
a switch. :) We use them for site surveys when we need portable power for
the APs and the ethernet passthrough allows us to hook a laptop up to the
APs ethernet port for config/management.
  -Sam

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Jason Watts  wrote:

> Thanks Samuel, there doesn’t appear to be anything special about that
> injector. Mind saying what kind of switch is typically behind it?
>
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Samuel Clements  wrote:
>
> I'm successfully using the Tycon injector supporting full power to both
> the 2800/3800:
> http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-1248GD-HP-10-15VDC-In-
> 56VDC-8023afat-Out-35W-DC-to_p_128.html
>
> Maybe not exactly what you were after, but it's certainly 3rd party, and
> it certainly works.
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Jason Watts  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to
>> fully power one or more 2802i APs?
>>
>> I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and
>> small so long as it is non-Cisco.
>> The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port
>> injector from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part
>> number” small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.
>>
>> So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond
>> providing 15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.
>>
>> Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator
>>
>> *PRATT INSTITUTE*
>> Academic Computing
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
>> http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
>>
>>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/
> discuss.
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/
> discuss.
>
>

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

RE: Android phones having strange issues

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)]

Richard,

I doubt users would switch that quickly but I expect we will see some later 
this week.

Since we are evaluating onboarding vendors, I must ask. Do your products 
(Wizard & CloudPath ES) already support Android Oreo? I know at least one other 
vendor already gas official support for this.

 
Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

-Original Message-
From: Richard Nedwich [mailto:rich.nedw...@brocade.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Android phones having strange issues

FWIW,

http://www.siliconbeat.com/2017/08/21/google-will-launch-new-android-version-solar-eclipse/?doing_wp_cron=1503346654.674446105957031250

Maybe some change had an effect on your users?

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

RE: Issues with TCL Roku TVs

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)]

We have a special SSID deployed to a few areas for devices that require the 
lower rates in order to associate. We use MAC Auth to restrict who can use it.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Mccormick, Kevin [mailto:ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Issues with TCL Roku TVs

We do have dashes in the names.

That is a thought, and could test that out.

Not sure we would change all the SSIDs just to get one brand of TVs to work.

Kevin 
McCormick
Network Administrator
University Technology - Western Illinois University
ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu | (309) 
298-1335 | Morgan Hall 106b
Connect with uTech: Website | 
Facebook | 
Twitter
[http://www.wiu.edu/university_technology/images/signatures/currentimage.jpg]

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Francis Walker 
> wrote:

Hi Kevin, just a shot in the dark here, but would your SSID's contain any 
special characters?  I have had seen problems with certain TV's where they 
won't associate if the SSID had certain special characters in it.


Thanks,
Joe

Joe Walker
Computing and Telecommunication Services
Kansas State University
(785)532-4997
f...@ksu.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> 
on behalf of Mccormick, Kevin 
>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:08:06 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Issues with TCL Roku TVs

We took a test AP from the test network up to the room and connected.

Before I left to go there I set the data rate to the defaults, all the default 
b/g data rates were active on the AP.

None of the test SSIDs would show on the TV when we scanned for networks.

Kevin 
McCormick
Network Administrator
University Technology - Western Illinois University
ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu | (309) 
298-1335 | Morgan Hall 106b
Connect with uTech: Website | 
Facebook | 
Twitter
[http://www.wiu.edu/university_technology/images/signatures/currentimage.jpg]

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Norton, Thomas (Network Operations) 
> wrote:
Have you tried enabling 1, or 5.5? I agree with Kelly, if enabled I would def 
disable 802.11r to see if it could be affecting it.  I still highly recommend 
completing a wpcap to understand the client behavior.
T.J. Norton
Wireless Network Architect
Network Operations - Wireless

(434) 592-6552

[http://www.liberty.edu/media/1616/40themail/wordmark-for-email.jpg]

Liberty University  |  Training Champions for Christ since 1971

On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Slone, Kelly 
> wrote:
Do you have 802.11r enabled?  If so test with it disabled.   We've been seeing 
this behavior with other devices when 802.11r is enabled.

Thanks,
Kelly Slone

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Mccormick, Kevin 
> wrote:
We have 3 SSIDs.

One for PEAP and EAP-TLS.
One open for onboarding.
One for PSK.

We have 1,2,5.5,6,9,11 disabled, 12,18 supported, 24 mandatory, and 36, 48, 54 
supported.

We tried a test system AP in their room with the Cisco default rates and those 
SSIDs would not show on that TV.

Other TV in the room was a Insignia Roku TV and that TV seen all the SSIDs 
including out test SSIDs.


Kevin 
McCormick
Network Administrator
University Technology - Western Illinois University
ke-mccorm...@wiu.edu | (309) 
298-1335 | Morgan Hall 106b
Connect with uTech: 
Website
 | 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Jason Watts]

Thanks Samuel, there doesn’t appear to be anything special about that injector. 
Mind saying what kind of switch is typically behind it?


> On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Samuel Clements  wrote:
> 
> I'm successfully using the Tycon injector supporting full power to both the 
> 2800/3800:
> http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-1248GD-HP-10-15VDC-In-56VDC-8023afat-Out-35W-DC-to_p_128.html
>  
> 
> 
> Maybe not exactly what you were after, but it's certainly 3rd party, and it 
> certainly works.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Jason Watts  > wrote:
> Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully 
> power one or more 2802i APs?
> 
> I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and small 
> so long as it is non-Cisco.
> The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port 
> injector from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part 
> number” small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.
> 
> So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond 
> providing 15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.
> 
> Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
> 
> PRATT INSTITUTE
> Academic Computing
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
> http://www.educause.edu/discuss .
> 
> 
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
> http://www.educause.edu/discuss .
> 


**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

RE: multicast enabled on your wireless network?

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)]

Tariq,

We have been running multicast on wireless for IPTV for several years on our 
Aruba wireless infrastructure. Since you mentioned "flexconnect" that implies, 
to me, a cisco wireless infrastructure so my experience may not apply to your 
situation.

We helped them test their "Dynamic Multicast Optimization" from early alpha and 
we initially deployed the beta to Production. It has been very good for our 
user experience and we have not noticed appreciable loading. We will be moving 
away from multicast because we will be switching to a vendor that is not using 
multicast.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless
 (434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Tariq Adnan [mailto:tariq.ad...@sydney.edu.au]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:11 PM
Subject: multicast enabled on your wireless network?

Hello everyone,

Just checking if you guys have multicast enabled on your wireless network and 
if you have come across any performance issues arising after enabling it? Is 
multicast widely used in your network?

I am working on a POC which has requirements that can be fulfilled by either 
enabling multicast or converting few APs to flexconnect mode. I am more in 
favour of later method but again want to know your views.

Thanks,
-
Cheers,

Kind regards,
Tariq Adnan

** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Samuel Clements]

I'm successfully using the Tycon injector supporting full power to both the
2800/3800:

http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-1248GD-HP-10-15VDC-In-56VDC-8023afat-Out-35W-DC-to_p_128.html


Maybe not exactly what you were after, but it's certainly 3rd party, and it
certainly works.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Jason Watts  wrote:

> Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully
> power one or more 2802i APs?
>
> I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and
> small so long as it is non-Cisco.
> The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port
> injector from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part
> number” small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.
>
> So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond
> providing 15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.
>
> Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator
>
> *PRATT INSTITUTE*
> Academic Computing
>
>
>
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/
> discuss.
>
>

**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Jason Watts]

Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully 
power one or more 2802i APs?

I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and small 
so long as it is non-Cisco.
The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port injector 
from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part number” 
small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.

So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond providing 
15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.

Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing





**
Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group 
discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.