Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disney's Free Wi-Fi
Maybe that just refers to the stuff this particular engineer had responsibility for Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs <https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Instagram <http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com <http://www.networkworld.com/> | idgenterprise.com <http://idgenterprise.com/> media kit | Conferences & Events <http://events.networkworld.com/> (PR pros: Thanks for taking the time to message me. No need to follow up on unsolicited email pitches by email or phone – I read all of my emails and follow up on those of immediate interest, sock those away that might be useful down the road or forward pitches to more appropriate contacts here who will follow up with you if they are interested.) On 3/3/17, 3:03 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Julian Y Koh" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of kohs...@northwestern.edu> wrote: > On Mar 3, 2017, at 13:22, Bob Brown <bbr...@nww.com> wrote: > > According to a wireless engineer at Disney, the WLAN infrastructure in Orlando consists of about 3,500 Cisco and Aruba APs across resorts, 4 theme parks etc. That seems like a low number to me, considering the AP counts I’ve seen us throw around here on the list for our campuses. -- Julian Y. Koh Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern Information Technology 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 +1-847-467-5780 Northwestern IT Web Site: <http://www.it.northwestern.edu/> PGP Public Key: <https://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disney's Free Wi-Fi
According to a wireless engineer at Disney, the WLAN infrastructure in Orlando consists of about 3,500 Cisco and Aruba APs across resorts, 4 theme parks etc. Airmagnet and Aircheck manager (Netscout stuff?) are used to keep things under control. AT has also installed DAS stuff at some resorts, primarily for staff, according to this piece<http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/at-t-completes-disney-das-and-small-cell-rollouts> <http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/08/02/disney-rolls-out-free-wifi.html> Disney apparently rolled out the free wifi …quietly…in 2012<http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/08/02/disney-rolls-out-free-wifi.html> This topic also arose on Reddit last year<https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/49twry/disney_world_wireless_network/#bottom-comments> though sheds little light on the matter One thing that is kind of interesting, for otherwise closed-mouth Disney, is that Disney Research out of Zurich published a paper last year evaluating 802.11ac<https://www.disneyresearch.com/publication/indoor-wlan-an-empirical-study/> In fact, Disney Research has published quite a few papers on wireless<https://www.disneyresearch.com/research-areas/wireless-and-mobile-computing/>, including one earlier this month on wireless power transmission for charging devices<https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-02/dr-wpt021617.php> Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs<https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com<http://www.networkworld.com/> | idgenterprise.com<http://idgenterprise.com/> media kit | Conferences & Events<http://events.networkworld.com/> (PR pros: Thanks for taking the time to message me. No need to follow up on unsolicited email pitches by email or phone – I read all of my emails and follow up on those of immediate interest, sock those away that might be useful down the road or forward pitches to more appropriate contacts here who will follow up with you if they are interested.) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Dexter Caldwell <dexter.caldw...@furman.edu> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: Friday, March 3, 2017 at 12:36 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disney's Free Wi-Fi Funny you noticed that too. We had a Wifi project in the works and so I called them last year, to ask about their solution because I was impressed with the performance for an installation of that size and crown density. (Yes, I tested it while I was there). Unfortunately they would tell me absolutely nothing. “For security reasons.”I wasn’t surprised, but if anyone else has any better luck, I’d be interested too. Took about 20 minutes of calling around to get that answer I think. Their IT people at that level are not easy to get without inside information. Dexter Caldwell Dir. Systems & Networks From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:28 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disney's Free Wi-Fi I just came back from a trip to Disney World and I was blown away about the availability of their Wi-Fi network. It covers all the Disney Hotels, parks (I believe with the exception of the water parks) and the Disney Springs district. From the MAC address of a couple of WAPs, it appears they use Aruba. The coverage is impressive, and the connectivity is good; although reliability is decent, but I can forgive them knowing what a humongous task it takes to deploy such a massive network. Does anybody know any more details about how this network was deployed? I looked and looked for places where I could see WAPs but didn’t see a thing. However they did it, it is impressive. Oh BTW, I did enjoy the park too. ☺ Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Here come the LTE-U devices...
FCC announced it has authorized first LTE-U devices (Ericsson and Nokia are first two suppliers approved) CHAIRMAN PAI STATEMENT ON COMMISSION AUTHORIZATION OF FIRST LTE-U DEVICES -- WASHINGTON, February 22, 2017 – Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai issued the following statement today on the agency’s first authorization of LTE-U devices: “Today, the Commission announced authorization of the first-ever LTE-U (LTE for unlicensed) devices in the 5 GHz band. This is a significant advance in wireless innovation and a big win for wireless consumers. “LTE-U allows wireless providers to deliver mobile data traffic using unlicensed spectrum while sharing the road, so to speak, with Wi-Fi. The excellent staff of the FCC’s Office of Engineering and Technology has certified that the LTE-U devices being approved today are in compliance with FCC rules. And voluntary industry testing has demonstrated that both these devices and Wi-Fi operations can co-exist in the 5 GHz band. This heralds a technical breakthrough in the many shared uses of this spectrum. “This is a great deal for wireless consumers, too. It means they get to enjoy the best of both worlds: a more robust, seamless experience when their devices are using cellular networks and the continued enjoyment of Wi-Fi, one of the most creative uses of spectrum in history. “I remain committed to ensuring a competitive and vibrant unlicensed ecosystem that fosters innovation and promotes the efficient use of spectrum. Today’s announcement, enabled by cooperation among private actors and collaboration with the public sector, reflects that commitment.” https://www.fcc.gov/news-events/blog/2017/02/22/oet-authorizes-first-lte-u-devices ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Using Amazon Alexa Skills to control routers
Linksys announced today that the Alexa Skill for voice control over its Velop, WRT and Max-Stream mesh systems and routers is now available. I imagine this would be more of a consumer than business/educational institution capability, but I'm wondering whether any WLAN admins are actually using or exploring use of such voice controls at work? If so, or if you have thoughts on this, feel free to hit me up directly at bbr...@nww.com or comment on this post. Might be something for us to write about. thanks, Bob Brown, Network World (www.networkworld.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Camouflaging AP's
I feel like I’ve seen a collection of clever/crazy camouflages on Reddit or a site like that, but not able to put my finger on it right now Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs<https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook profile<https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com<http://www.networkworld.com> | idgenterprise.com<http://idgenterprise.com/> media kit | Conferences & Events<http://events.networkworld.com> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Brian Williams <bwilli...@gsu.edu> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:58 AM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Camouflaging AP's We ran into the same issue when our new law school building was built. They paid a lot of money for ornate ceilings in the moot courtrooms and thought the exposed access points were an eye sore. Aruba sells covers for the AP200 series that are designed to be painted (obviously you should avoid lead based or metallic based paints). We only had to use them in a few areas but it made the customer happy. http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Wireless-Access/AP-215-CVR-20-picture/td-p/222463 Brian D Williams Georgia State University | II - Network Engineering | bwilli...@gsu.edu | innovation.gsu.edu From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Brian Helman <bhel...@salemstate.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:47 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Camouflaging AP's Aside from enclosures, how are people hiding their AP’s in areas where aesthetics are very important? As we bring up new buildings or renovate old ones, the typical response from architects to hanging an AP in plain sight is .. you want hang that where!? My current situation is a renovated theatre. The ceilings will be greyed out, so placing a glossy white Aruba AP on there could be an issue. The ceiling is high (accessible via catwalk), so I’m not ruling out something as low-rent as black gaffer’s tape, or possibly grey contact paper, but I thought I’d throw the question out to the group as I may have units on side-walls that I’ll need to somehow mask. BTW, loving the tongue-and-cheek answers to recent posts. It would appear we are all a bit punchy at the start of the new academic year! -Brian Brian Helman, M.Ed | Director, ITS/Networking Services | •: 978.542.7272 Salem State University, 352 Lafayette St., Salem Massachusetts 01970 GPS: 42.502129, -70.894779 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.educause.edu%2fgroups%2f=01%7c01%7cbwilliams%40GSU.EDU%7c8d94739df1564565d02708d3d736d026%7c515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70%7c0=CbA8Q1Ms7P6EnfhNrlYN0BLxzgByCqsr3hMGMlTnwLk%3d>. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Anyone familiar with cloud WLAN vendor Relay2?
Relay2<http://www.relay2.com/> is announcing some new stuff and I'm just wondering if anyone if familiar with them, has any thoughts on what they're doing, how they compare to other vendors like Cisco, Ruckus, HP/Aruba, etc. Thanks, BobB Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs<https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook profile<https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com<http://www.networkworld.com> | idgenterprise.com<http://idgenterprise.com/> media kit | Conferences & Events<http://events.networkworld.com> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Here we go again with FCC wifi blocking fines: MC Dean, Hilton both fined
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3000409/wi-fi/fcc-strikes-again-on-wi-fi-blocking-hilton-big-electrical-contractor-fined.html Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs<https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook profile<https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Google + profile<https://plus.google.com/104712908618368674642/posts> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com<http://www.networkworld.com> | Media Kit<http://www.networkworldmediakit.com> | Conferences & Events<http://events.networkworld.com> An IDG Enterprise<http://www.idgenterprise.com/> Brand ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Curious to see if other schools/businesses will warn about iOS 9 WiFi Assist
McGill University (I believe its IT dept) has issued a warning to its community about the new iOS 9 Wifi Assist feature, which means well (by switching you to cellular use from wifi use when wifi signals are bad) but can possibly jack up your data usage http://www.mcgill.ca/channels/news/ios-9-mobile-users-consider-disabling-wi-fi-assist-feature-255683 (Though some say people are just piling on Wifi Assist, and that it's actually a swell feature: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/30/ignore-the-haters-wi-fi-assist-is-ios-9 ) Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston> | Twitter: @alphadoggs<https://twitter.com/alphadoggs> | Facebook profile<https://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld> | Google + profile<https://plus.google.com/104712908618368674642/posts> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/nwwinstagram> NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.com<http://www.networkworld.com> | Media Kit<http://www.networkworldmediakit.com> | Conferences & Events<http://events.networkworld.com> An IDG Enterprise<http://www.idgenterprise.com/> Brand ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
6-month follow-up to Marriott/FCC Wifi blocking stories
I'm looking to follow up on a series of stories we ran in late 2014/early 2015http://www.networkworld.com/article/2879142/wireless/fcc-still-has-ton-of-explaining-to-do-on-wi-fi-blocking-rules.html on the Marriott Wifi blocking issue. To refresh, the FCC fined Marriott for blocking a Wifi hotspot (or hotspots) at one of its hotel convention centers. The incident sparked quite a bit of discussion on this listserv, as university/college network pros wondered whether their own Wifi management/security practices would now be considered legit and whether the products they were using could still be used. *I've followed up with Marriott, whose CIO kicked me over to public relations, which naturally declined to comment. *The hospitality industry trade group had said at the time of the FCC/Marriott decisions that it was going to launch a cybersecurity task force to study this topic further, but they haven't responded to my inquiries, so I'm not sure whether such a task force was formed and if so, whether it has accomplished anything. *The FCC has been unresponsive on this matter entirely. *I've contacted WLAN vendors that I spoke to for some of the original articles to see if anything has changed on their end since the start of the year and they haven't had much to say so far. So, based on all this, I don't have much of an update to write about at this point...perhaps exactly what these parties would like. But, I'm also wondering if any of you who were trying to figure out earlier this year what the FCC decision/Marriott response meant to you, have taken any new approaches to managing/security Wifi on your campuses. If so, and you'd be willing to share your story, please touch base (or feel free to share with the listserv if appropriate). Regards, Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston | Twitter: @alphadoggshttps://twitter.com/alphadoggs | Facebook profilehttps://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld | Google + profilehttps://plus.google.com/104712908618368674642/posts | Instagramhttp://instagram.com/nwwinstagram NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.comhttp://www.networkworld.com | Media Kithttp://www.networkworldmediakit.com | Conferences Eventshttp://events.networkworld.com An IDG Enterprisehttp://www.idgenterprise.com/ Brand ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roll Call- Who's going to WLPC from higher ed?
Interesting, didn't even know there was such an event Bob Brown Online Executive Editor, News T: 508.766.5418 LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbrownboston | Twitter: @alphadoggshttps://twitter.com/alphadoggs | Facebook profilehttps://www.facebook.com/NetworkWorld | Google + profilehttps://plus.google.com/104712908618368674642/posts | Instagramhttp://instagram.com/nwwinstagram NETWORK WORLD 492 Old Connecticut Path | PO Box 9002 | Framingham, MA 01701-9002 NetworkWorld.comhttp://www.networkworld.com | Media Kithttp://www.networkworldmediakit.com | Conferences Eventshttp://events.networkworld.com An IDG Enterprisehttp://www.idgenterprise.com/ Brand From: Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:17 AM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roll Call- Who's going to WLPC from higher ed? Just curious how many on the list are going to the Wireless LAN Pro Conference next week? Bruce Boardman and myself from Syracuse will be there- would be nice to connect with our friends from other schools during the event. -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
