Any wireless project: requirement, RFP, gantt to share?

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello!

We are planning to upgrade our Wifi. Do you have any project documentation you 
could share : requirement, RFP, gantt chart. I have checked in EDUCAUSE library 
but wireless projects are old (2003).

Cordialement

Christian Héroux Ing., M.Ing., MBA, ITIL
Section systèmes, infrastructures et télécommunications
École de Technologie Supérieure
Montréal Qc
Canada
Courriel: christian.her...@etsmtl.ca
Téléphone:(514) 396-8800 ext 7863

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Site Survey cost

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello all!

 

We had that problem a while ago. We did a site survey to evaluate the number of 
AP needed to propose an architecture and secure a budget...by the time we had 
the "go" AP changed and technology changed and we had to do another survey with 
the new type of AP.  The first one already cost a lot... we have many floor.. 
around 10K$

 

Finally We didn`t do a site survey, For the first phase we wanted coverage so 
we used the rule of tumb 1 AP to cover a number of meter sq. We validated also 
with the simulation available with Cisco WCS. We have deployed 112 AP and now 
we will add density where needed.

 

We were planning to do buy a software airpeak, Ekahau  and adjust our 
deployment accordingly. I feel the wifi is dynamic not like cable and that add 
to the challenge.

 

The university is always evolving, renovation, wall, office, corridor, 
classroom so the site survey is only valid as long as the physical part don`t 
change much...believe me here the site survey wouldn`t last more than a 
semester with all the construction/evolution. 

 

Maybe residence are more stable environment...

 

Cordialement

 

Christian Héroux Ing., M.Ing., ITIL 

Section systèmes, infrastructures et télécommunications 

École de Technologie Supérieure

Montréal Qc

Canada

Courriel: christian.her...@etsmtl.ca  

Téléphone:(514) 396-8800 ext 7863

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Kaftan
Sent: 14 mars 2011 12:42
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Site Survey cost

 

I know this is a crazy question with tons of variables but I am trying to at 
least get an idea of what it would cost to do a wireless survey in our 
residence halls.  We have 7 buildings built over the years with a variety of 
construction materials.  Each building has 3-4 floors.  We have a total of 1100 
students living on campus.  

 

Has anyone had a commercial wireless survey done and if so can you give me any 
idea of what I would be looking at?

 

My intention is to do this via an Internship so I do not really want to shop 
this out and put vendors through the paces.  I just want to give an estimate of 
what it would cost the college if we were to have a commercial provider do the 
work.

 

John Kaftan 

Infrastructure Manager

Utica College

315.792.3102

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] List Guidelines reminder

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello,

As far as I know, in Canada we don`t have a domain for universities. Limiting 
the mailing list to .edu domain would block all Canadian Universities from 
contributing to those mailing list. Please take that into account if you change 
the rule. 

Christian Héroux
University of Québec
Montréal, Qc
Canada

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W. (NS)
Sent: 14 août 2010 06:36
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] List Guidelines reminder

I think Rick's mention of limiting to .edu was to limit to educational 
institutions only. That should definitely include those in countries that use 
.ac.?? country code domain names for educational institutions.

I have seen many noteable posts on the educause lists from .ac.?? domains.


Bruce Osborne
Liberty University

From: Oliver Gorwits [oliver.gorw...@oucs.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: List Guidelines reminder

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On 12/08/2010 18:13, Philippe Hanset wrote:
> Also, having vendors on the list is reciprocally beneficial.

I would agree, there have been notable posts in the past from
vendors either offering assistance with bugs or coming in with
general technical/standards know-how.

So long as it's not pushy, which it hasn't been in the couple of
years I've been on this list, I'm happy.

I guess the objection is that we may feel unable to rant knowing the
vendor is watching, but I feel equally unable to rant anyway because
the list is archived publicly and therefore the post will linger
forever in Google - so it makes no difference ;-)

Also +1 for the non-.edu access - we outside the U.S. appreciate
being able to share in a wider Higher Education discussion than our
own market, and hopefully on occasion have something to contribute!

regards,
oliver.
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Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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Does wireless access will replace wired access in campus?

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello,

 

We have a project that would require every student to have a laptop. That would 
change the requirements in most classroom and we are looking at how to provide 
network access in those room. Wireless seem cheaper than wired to connect to 
the network.

 

For the moment, we recommend wireless as a complementary access not as the main 
connection for work or study. The University would like to push for wireless 
but technically we tend to prefer wired. In wireless, we don`t have control on 
the air space like interference, performance is not the same and we don`t have 
as much control over a user like shutting down a port. 

 

What is your orientation about network access?  Would you embrace Wireless only 
architecture?

 

Christian Héroux

University of Quebec

 

 

 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello,

 

Mcgill University  here in Montreal has a similar policy,

http://knowledgebase.mcgill.ca/display/2/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=2264&r=0.5351679

https://search.mcgill.ca/fasttrack/?appl=guest

 

We would like to have similar solution but we do not want to develop the 
application our self. Have you come across a web applications that would do 
this?

 

Christian Heroux

University of Quebec

Montreal

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart
Sent: 6 juillet 2010 09:18
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions

 

We do the same thing for the most part.

Heath

On 7/2/2010 8:09 AM, Daniel Eklund wrote: 

We provide free guest access, but not open access.  Guests must be vouched for 
by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the 
actions of the guest while they use the network.  We have a simple online 
process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and 
password for their guest.  They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID 
can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week.  After that time the ID is 
deleted.

--
Daniel Eklund
Director, Networking
Wayne State University
313-577-5558


- "Tom Neiss"    
wrote: 
> 

Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus?

How are you dealing with CALEA if you are?

Do you use your edu address?

Thanks,

 

Thomas R. Neiss

Director of ITS Telecommunications

University at Albany

1400 Washington Ave

Albany, NY 1

(518) 437-3803

 

 

 

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Network Administrator
Information Systems and Services
Washburn University
Topeka, KS 66621

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Site survey Wifi deployment software and methodology queries

[Christian.Heroux]

Hello!

 

We are planning a campus wide Wifi deployment. I am looking for 
tool and advice on how to do site survey. We are looking at Cisco airspace 
solution with controller.  The test deployment 20 AP was done with consultant 
and the actual site survey was to install and move around one  mobile AP and 
check the reception with a laptop to determine the final AP spot. This process 
was repeated until the floor was covered. Not a very scientific approach and 
quite costly. 

 

>From my reading there are 2 types of site survey:

 

-Spectrum analyser to evaluate noise in your environment. 

-Simulation software tool where you load your (autocad) floor plan and the 
software will help to define the location of your access-points.

-Another survey is to install all access-points and walk the floor and take 
sample reading with a laptop and software and analyse the result.

-Once you have your Wifi network Cisco seem to have some functionality where AP 
can listen to each other and adjusted their power and maybe recommend to move 
some AP around. (WLSE walkabout feature old aeronet solution) but at this point 
you need to have your network install before using this tool. 

 

I was looking at air magnet software to those 2 functions any comments?

What was your experience with those softwares? Any other that I should look at?

In only few lines, how do you proceed with your WIFI site survey and what tool 
do you use?

 

Thanks 

 

Christian Héroux

University of Quebec

Montréal, Canada  


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