Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Science DMZ presentation recording

[Jason Watts]

Don't include the trailing parenthesis ")".

*Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator

*PRATT INSTITUTE*
Academic Computing



On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:25 AM Rakoczy, Michelle 
wrote:

> Has anyone been able to access this?  I can now see the session but when I
> enter y91=vJE1) it says wrong passcode.
>
>
>
> *Michelle Rakoczy, PhD *
>
> *Associate Director Infrastructure & Operations*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Turner, Ryan H
> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2020 9:49 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Science DMZ presentation recording
>
>
>
>
>
> https://unc.zoom.us/rec/share/7Q42zZyxS7C9AIKNfj1-4_dxAu9DUcAICI2yy_S_dVVALTEpznOa3WRBr4A34uqF.nz9W7DPjTitx5X19
>  (Access Passcode: y91=vJE1)
>
>
>
> I’ll keep this online for about 6 months, then I’ll likely remove it.
>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone!
>
> Ryan Turner
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

[Jason Watts]

Lee,

When you say 8.2 MR7 are you specifically referring to 8.2.167.204?

Another thing that annoys me about Cisco is the abstruse range of naming
and versioning formats for software releases and code trains. But I suppose
this is a lot of vendors these days. /rant

*Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator

*PRATT INSTITUTE*


On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:20 PM Lee H Badman  wrote:

> Is crazy- Cisco is up to 8.8.x on support site, but I hesitate to move
> from 8.2 MR7 as it actually works. Like hesitate to move, ever. EVER.
>
>
>
> -Lee Badman
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Mccormick, Kevin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2018 1:30 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client
> Fails to Associate: AID Error
>
>
>
> New field notice was published yesterday.
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/702/fn70253.html
>
> You may want to check if you are being affected.
>
> Following versions are affected.
>
> 8.0.150.0, 8.0.152.0
> 8.4.100.0
> 8.5.103.0
>
> If you are running 8.0, TAC has  8.0MR5esc available.
>
>
> Kevin McCormick <https://www.youracclaim.com/user/kevin-mccormick>
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> Network Administrator
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP2800 failure rate

[Jason Watts]

No(not yet??) but we just deployed a bunch. Are you talking about the
internal antenna models or external antennas? Which software version are
you running on?

*Jason Watts* | Senior Network Administrator

*PRATT INSTITUTE*



On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:39 AM Sam Ziadeh  wrote:

> Is anyone else seeing a high rate of Cisco AP 2800 failures? Out of a
> batch of ~500 recently installed Aps, we have had roughly 70 fail. Some
> were online for a month, but some only a few days.
>
> Typically they will fail after a powercycle or loss of power.
> We are working with Cisco on this, but I’m curious if this is a more wide
> spread problem.
>
>
>
> -
>
> Sam Ziadeh
>
> Manager, Network Engineering & Architecture
>
> University Networking & Infrastructure
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> Louisiana State University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?

[Jason Watts]

That’s more than nothing, thanks.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing




> On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Lee H Badman  wrote:
> 
> I can only preface it as 3rd hand info:
>  
> 8540s on 8.2.160, some unidentified condition making the APs flap once a 
> certain load of clients was reached. Beyond that, I can’t say much.
> Lee Badman | Network Architect 
> 
> Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> 
> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu 
> <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu <http://its.syr.edu/>
> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
> syr.edu <http://syr.edu/>
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Jason Watts
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?
>  
> Lee,
>  
> Without identifying the school can you give any more detail about what sort 
> of catastrophic issues they are having? What controllers/APs? We just moved 
> to 8.2.160.0 on 5520s and I haven’t noticed anything yet that I would deem 
> catastrophic. We are on a mix of 2802i, 3502i, 1142n APs.
>  
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
>  
> PRATT INSTITUTE
> Academic Computing
>  
>  
>  
> On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Lee H Badman  <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote:
>  
> Not that I advocate it, but there are incredibly easy ways to shut down the 
> wireless side of the printers if you chose to. That’s all I’m saying.
>  
> I have heard in private that another school is having catastrophic issues 
> with 8.2.160.0, so this may emerge as one to watch closer.
> Thanks for sharing- this sort of information is valuable as we all go through 
> this rather unique exercise.
> 
>  
> 
> -Lee
> 
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of T. Shayne Ghere
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?
>  
> Here’s our setup
>  
> Running 8.2.160.0 on a pair of 8540 in HA mode
> 796 1810w
> 472 3802i
> Mix of 1142, 702 totaling 220 that will soon be replace with 3802i
> Total AP’s will be close to 2015 when new wiring is pulled
>  
> Home grown registration for one SSID that’s used for devices that won’t work 
> on secure or web-auth networks
>  
> I’m running Flexconnect on the wireless along with an Rlan for the wired 
> ports for the 1810w’s (dorms) and local switching where applicable.
>  
> So far, we have identified 5 bugs with the 160.0 code which Cisco is working 
> on.  They aren’t service impacting but more of a pain than anything. (Kernel 
> panics and watchdog resets)
>  
> We have identified the Lenovo Yoga series laptops (and other models from Best 
> Buy) having issues with enterprise networks with no solution since the last 
> Windows 10 update.  If the users go an buy a small form factor wifi adapter, 
> everything works.   Without it, they aren’t able to connect to our secure 
> network and open networks are slow.
>  
> Dell laptops seem to be the most stable followed by Macbook Pro’s.
>  
> We have already surpassed most connected clients from last year on the second 
> day of classes this year.  I’m seeing a LOT of wifi enabled TV’s, IoT devices 
> (ugh), tablets, phones, smartwatches and wireless cameras/doorbells for rooms.
>  
> Our biggest concern is the amount of wireless printers that have shown up.  
> We don’t allow wireless printers on our network, but when trying to get the 
> wireless cards shut off for each one is becoming a problem.
>  
> If anyone is handling wireless printers differently, I’d be interested in 
> talking offline with you.
>  
> Thanks
> --
> T. Shayne Ghere
> Bradley University
> Network Engineer/Wireless
> 1501 W. Bradley Ave, Jobst 224A
> (309) 677-3094 (ofc)
> (309) 863-5738 (cell) – Emergency only
> sgh...@fsmail.bradley.edu <mailto:sgh...@fsmail.bradley.edu>
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> Wednesday, August 30th – PM (no phone/e-mail access)
>  
>  
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> 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?

[Jason Watts]

Lee,

Without identifying the school can you give any more detail about what sort of 
catastrophic issues they are having? What controllers/APs? We just moved to 
8.2.160.0 on 5520s and I haven’t noticed anything yet that I would deem 
catastrophic. We are on a mix of 2802i, 3502i, 1142n APs.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing



> On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Lee H Badman  wrote:
> 
> Not that I advocate it, but there are incredibly easy ways to shut down the 
> wireless side of the printers if you chose to. That’s all I’m saying.
>  
> I have heard in private that another school is having catastrophic issues 
> with 8.2.160.0, so this may emerge as one to watch closer.
> Thanks for sharing- this sort of information is valuable as we all go through 
> this rather unique exercise.
> 
>  
> 
> -Lee
> 
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of T. Shayne Ghere
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?
>  
> Here’s our setup
>  
> Running 8.2.160.0 on a pair of 8540 in HA mode
> 796 1810w
> 472 3802i
> Mix of 1142, 702 totaling 220 that will soon be replace with 3802i
> Total AP’s will be close to 2015 when new wiring is pulled
>  
> Home grown registration for one SSID that’s used for devices that won’t work 
> on secure or web-auth networks
>  
> I’m running Flexconnect on the wireless along with an Rlan for the wired 
> ports for the 1810w’s (dorms) and local switching where applicable.
>  
> So far, we have identified 5 bugs with the 160.0 code which Cisco is working 
> on.  They aren’t service impacting but more of a pain than anything. (Kernel 
> panics and watchdog resets)
>  
> We have identified the Lenovo Yoga series laptops (and other models from Best 
> Buy) having issues with enterprise networks with no solution since the last 
> Windows 10 update.  If the users go an buy a small form factor wifi adapter, 
> everything works.   Without it, they aren’t able to connect to our secure 
> network and open networks are slow.
>  
> Dell laptops seem to be the most stable followed by Macbook Pro’s.
>  
> We have already surpassed most connected clients from last year on the second 
> day of classes this year.  I’m seeing a LOT of wifi enabled TV’s, IoT devices 
> (ugh), tablets, phones, smartwatches and wireless cameras/doorbells for rooms.
>  
> Our biggest concern is the amount of wireless printers that have shown up.  
> We don’t allow wireless printers on our network, but when trying to get the 
> wireless cards shut off for each one is becoming a problem.
>  
> If anyone is handling wireless printers differently, I’d be interested in 
> talking offline with you.
>  
> Thanks
> --
> T. Shayne Ghere
> Bradley University
> Network Engineer/Wireless
> 1501 W. Bradley Ave, Jobst 224A
> (309) 677-3094 (ofc)
> (309) 863-5738 (cell) – Emergency only
> sgh...@fsmail.bradley.edu <mailto:sgh...@fsmail.bradley.edu>
> --
> UPCOMING OUT OF OFFICE
> Wednesday, August 30th – PM (no phone/e-mail access)
>  
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 8:22 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Move In/Opening Week- Any Problems?
>  
> It might be beneficial to share notes in case other schools are hitting 
> common problems. I’m wondering how everyone who is in the thick of it is 
> faring with back-to-school?
>  
> On this end, we are doing OK halfway to our expected total daily peak clients 
> (we’re at 15K now high water mark).
>  
> Our significant WLAN-related changes since end of Spring semester
> Running 8.2.151 on our 8540s
> Significant quantities of Wave 2 APs
> ISE as RADIUS (only, no NAC, no onboarding)
>  
> No changes to:
> our guest WLAN (Clearpass/an Aruba controller pair)
> onboarding (Cloudpath Wiz)
> overall topology
> open network in dorms for gadgets
> non-use of AVC, it crapped out and never got solved after hundreds of hours 
> with TAC
>  
> Fears:
> We haven’t yet hit the scale that will reveal problems with any of the newer 
> stuff listed above
>  
> Anyone else care to share?
>  
> -Le

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Jason Watts]

Thanks Samuel, there doesn’t appear to be anything special about that injector. 
Mind saying what kind of switch is typically behind it?


> On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Samuel Clements  wrote:
> 
> I'm successfully using the Tycon injector supporting full power to both the 
> 2800/3800:
> http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-1248GD-HP-10-15VDC-In-56VDC-8023afat-Out-35W-DC-to_p_128.html
>  
> <http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-1248GD-HP-10-15VDC-In-56VDC-8023afat-Out-35W-DC-to_p_128.html>
> 
> Maybe not exactly what you were after, but it's certainly 3rd party, and it 
> certainly works.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Jason Watts  <mailto:jwa...@pratt.edu>> wrote:
> Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully 
> power one or more 2802i APs?
> 
> I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and small 
> so long as it is non-Cisco.
> The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port 
> injector from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part 
> number” small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.
> 
> So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond 
> providing 15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.
> 
> Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
> 
> PRATT INSTITUTE
> Academic Computing
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Cisco 2802i and 3rd party injectors or switches

[Jason Watts]

Has anyone on-list successfully used a 3rd party 802.3at injector to fully 
power one or more 2802i APs?

I’m interested in single-port, multi-port midspan, and switches big and small 
so long as it is non-Cisco.
The word from Cisco seems to be that only the AIR-PWRINJ-6 single-port injector 
from Cisco is compatible, though I have heard of a “same part number” 
small-business injector that costs a bit less as working as well.

So far I can find no evidence of a 3rd party injector working beyond providing 
15.4 watts medium power, hence no radios up.

Manufacturer and part numbers are much appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing





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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3800 Series APs

[Jason Watts]

Well that is troubling. We are about to deploy around 200 of them. Is anyone 
else experiencing similar issues to this on 2802's?

-- 
Jason Watts
Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Scharloo, Gertjan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bryan,
>  
> The University of Amsterdam and Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences are 
> currently using 2802i Access Points since December 1, 2016 to gain experience 
> with this new type of Access Point. (Only on the 9th and 10th floors)
>  
> The access points have been problematic from the start, and still there are 
> complaints from end users that we can’t solve or identify properly. The same 
> users can work without problems on other floors where we have 2702i Access 
> Points stationed in this property.
> We are currently dealing with client disconnections on the floors/buildings 
> with AP2802i. This disconnection occurs 2-3 hours, sometimes more frequently. 
> Many of our clients are effected. Another issue which is subpart of this 
> issue is: the clients are connected but there is no traffic flow. These 
> clients have laptop from different vendors for example Dell, Apple with 
> different (updated) drivers. -The users stay connected but cannot transmit 
> any data.
>  
> Two months ago, we have started a new software release 8.2.154.17 and we were 
> hoping to fix our client disconnect issue only with the 2802i AP, but the 
> problem became worse. We have started a Tac CASE (severity 2)
>  
>  
> Regards
>  
> Gertjan Scharloo
> ICT Consultant
> _
>  
> Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam
>  
> ICT Services
> Leeuwenburg | kamer A9.44
> Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam
> +31 (0)20 525 4885
> Mobiel : +31(0) 61013-5880
> www.uva.nl
> uva.nl/profile/g.scharloo
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>  
>  
> From: wireless-lan  on behalf of Bryan 
> Ward 
> Reply-To: wireless-lan 
> Date: Wednesday, 5 July 2017 at 18:07
> To: wireless-lan 
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 3800 Series APs
>  
> Couldn’t find a recent discussion on the list archives, so I’ll ask my 
> question.
>  
> For those of you that have Cisco 3800 series APs in production, how have they 
> been working for you recently?
> We currently purchase 3700 series APs as our standard for new installs and 
> replacement of our 3500 series APs, but are now considering switching to the 
> 3800 series.
> I heard there were a lot of issues with them at first, but was wondering if 
> they’re still troublesome now that they’ve been out in the wild for some time.
> Also, does anyone currently have issues using Prime to manage them?
>  
> Thanks all,
>  
> --
> Bryan Ward
> Network Engineer
> Dartmouth College Network Services
> 603-646-2245
> bryan.w...@dartmouth.edu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference

[Jason Watts]

I was going to ask as well. Take out the institution specific terms and imagery 
and open source it, please. 

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE



> On Feb 22, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Watters, John  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like everyone likes it, include us. How about a global right-to-use 
> statement from the University of Michigan?
>  
> John Watters
> Network Engineer, Office of Information Technology
> 
> The University of Alabama <https://www.ua.edu/>
> A115 Gordon Palmer Hall
> Box 870346 
> Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 
> Phone 205-348-3992 
> john.watt...@ua.edu <mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>
>  <https://www.ua.edu/>
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of John Chappell
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:04 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference
>  
> That is an amazing PDF, I’d like to request permission to use it as well. 
> 
> Regards, 
>
> John Chappell
> IT Coordinator
>  
> Residence Services 
> Mount Royal University
> Calgary, Alberta
> Office: 403.440.5198
> Mobile: 403.829.6455   
>  
> "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - 
> Albert Einstein
>  
> MRU IT Services will NEVER ask you for your password or to update or verify 
> your email account through an email. DO NOT click any links in an email 
> asking you to update or verify your email account.
>  
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 09:57, Edward Ip  <mailto:i...@algonquincollege.com>> wrote:
>  
> Wonderful pdf.  We would like permission to also re-use contents in your pdf 
> in helping educating our Residence clients.
>  
> Regards,
> Edward Ip
> Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | 
> K2G 1V8 | Canada
> algonquincollege.com <http://algonquincollege.com/>
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Walter Reynolds
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:24 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference
>  
> This is a link to a pdf of what we came up with. 
>  
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0BKRE3DeEPKb1RWc1BPSkljYUtJZjRGel9icmU3NklJRHRv/view
>  
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0BKRE3DeEPKb1RWc1BPSkljYUtJZjRGel9icmU3NklJRHRv/view>
>  
> If the link does not allow you to see it I am attaching the file as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Walter Reynolds
> Principal Systems Security Development Engineer
> Information and Technology Services
> University of Michigan
> (734) 615-9438
>  
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Michael Hulko  <mailto:mihu...@uwo.ca>> wrote:
> Netscout.. aka Fluke… aka Airmagnet wrote a pretty easy to understand 
> document related to interference.
>  
>  
> M
>  
> On Feb 17, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler  <mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:
>  
> You are fighting a battle that will never be won, and even a stale-mate is 
> unlikely.
>  
> IMHO, your best bet is to work toward abandoning 2.4. In the early days, we 
> did try outreach and education, but there are just too many devices today 
> that use 2.4, and in many cases, users don’t even know it e.g. Apple’s 
> Airdrop. You can minimize some of this by solving the reasons behind some of 
> the interference sources i.e. install more WAPs to improve the service, 
> reducing the rogue problem. Install residential printers to mitigate the need 
> for student printers.
>  
> Most of our residential is now designed around dense 5 GHz, and while 2.4 is 
> available, it’s mostly ignored.
>  
> Jeff  
>  
> From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu 
> <mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
>  <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> on behalf of "Gray, Sean" 
> mailto:sean.gr...@uleth.ca>>
> Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu 
> <mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
>  <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>>
> Date: Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential buildings

[Jason Watts]

Can anyone share the mounting brackets for either 702w or 1810w that you’re 
using? It sounds like some have a bracket or enclosure that surrounds either 
the whole AP or at least obscures the ethernet ports.
Is it just the standard mount or something extra or 3rd party?



> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Danny Eaton  wrote:
> 
> We’ve got about 200 or so 702W deployed in various rooms.  We’ve had no 
> issues with them being damaged, disappearing, or being knocked off the walls. 
>  They are mounted down low, even, around the same height as an electrical 
> outlet.  So far, no one has complained of “I don’t feel so well”, etc.  We 
> installed them in the “holes” where the 1142/3502/3702 already installed 
> (hallways) were not providing satisfactory coverage, so not every other room, 
> but pretty close.  
>  
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> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:07 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential 
> buildings
>  
> Our experience is in line with this statement. We use the Cisco 702 APs and 
> have found when they do get knocked off of the wall the APs do not suffer any 
> damage. I have seen a couple of messed up mounting brackets but the APs 
> themselves were still working just fine. This has occurred about 4 or 5 times 
> over the last 2 and ½ years. We have around 700 of these APs deployed in the 
> dorms.
>  
> Don Sullivan
> Network Administrator
> Samford University
> 205-726-2111
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> ] On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:53 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential 
> buildings
>  
> The AP’s are pretty sturdy.  The mounting kits we used, those get knocked 
> about and will require repair.  Past experience with wall wart (boxes that 
> stick out) in dorm rooms is that the mountings will get bashed about ~10%
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> ] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:51 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential 
> buildings
>  
> Not to speak for Hector, but I think the concern here is physical damage. 
> That’s an interesting topic as here we’re used to ceiling mount APs that are 
> generally out of the way. However, we have a few hallway phones (admittedly 
> higher on the wall), and probably 15%-20% get damaged or knocked off the wall 
> every year.  Would the students be any more careful about APs at outlet or 
> desk level?
>  
> Thomas Carter
> Network & Operations Manager / IT
> Austin College
> 900 North Grand Avenue 
> Sherman, TX 75090
> Phone: 903-813-2564
> www.austincollege.edu 
> 
> 
>  
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> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:52 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential 
> buildings
>  
> They are designed to cover the room itself.  Rollins has found that it does 
> do that, even with the furniture covering it.
>  
> It actually helps limit the signal propagation (2.4).
>  
> Ian
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> ] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:36 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Question about Cisco 1810w APs in residential 
> buildings
>  
> One of my biggest concerns has always been the height at which these WAPs get 
> installed (as you mentioned, 1.5ft). In most of our residential buildings, 
> the data ports happen to be right behind desks that are provided by ResLife 
> and the desks have covers in the back that essentially would bump against the 
> WAP. Not to mention the fact that a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Recommended USB client adapter for Windows 8/10

[Jason Watts]

Great suggestion, I’ll see if we can get that worked up.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

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> On Sep 22, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Samuel Clements  wrote:
> 
> For your rolling cart needs, a Cisco AP in WGB mode is an outstanding 
> wireless client. This is very common especially in healthcare environments 
> and manufacturing and goes a very long way to having a superb wireless 
> experience on these devices.
>   -Sam
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Jason Watts  <mailto:jwa...@pratt.edu>> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I’m reaching out to see if anyone in the group has specific recommendations 
> for good performing USB adapters for Windows 8/10.
> Preferably I’d like a chipset/driver combo that is known to perform well with 
> Cisco hardware and WPA2/802.1x/PEAP connections.
> 
> I am trying to eliminate built-in hardware as a cause of some client issues 
> and having another device behave similarly or not could help narrow the 
> problem to the OS or network.
> A plug-n-play model that requires no driver downloads is a plus.
> 
> I’m also just looking for a good Windows compatible client that can accept 
> external antennas because we also have a rolling cart need.
> 
> Any recommendations on/off list are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
> 
> 
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Recommended USB client adapter for Windows 8/10

[Jason Watts]

Hi All,

I’m reaching out to see if anyone in the group has specific recommendations for 
good performing USB adapters for Windows 8/10.
Preferably I’d like a chipset/driver combo that is known to perform well with 
Cisco hardware and WPA2/802.1x/PEAP connections.

I am trying to eliminate built-in hardware as a cause of some client issues and 
having another device behave similarly or not could help narrow the problem to 
the OS or network.
A plug-n-play model that requires no driver downloads is a plus.

I’m also just looking for a good Windows compatible client that can accept 
external antennas because we also have a rolling cart need.

Any recommendations on/off list are greatly appreciated.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to Wired Bridge

[Jason Watts]

Does that unit have an 802.1x supplicant in the manufacturer firmware or can it 
be flashed with OpenWRT or DDWRT? Or are you just joining it to open or PSK 
nets?



> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Mark Usher  wrote:
> 
> TP-Link N150 Wireless Travel Router is still the best bang for your buck at 
> only $20.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Norman Mourtada  > wrote:
> Why not use a Wi-Fi usb adapter? I just tested the EDIMAX AC600 Wi-Fi USB 
> adapter model EW-7811UTC is a dual band (2.4/5) and supports 802.11AC for 
> under 425 and seems to work great.
> 
> Has support for both Windows and MacOS drivers.
> 
>  
> 
> Norm
> 
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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> ] On Behalf Of Adam Forsyth
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:49 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> 
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to Wired Bridge
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone have a good wireless to wired bridge that they recommend to 
> students to purchase when they have a wired only device that they wish they 
> could connect in a wireless only residence hall?
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
> Adam Forsyth
> 
> Director of Network and Systems
> 
> Luther College Information Technology Services
> 
> 700 College Drive
> 
> Decorah, IA 52101
> 
> 563-387-1402 
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> Information Technology | 102 Patterson Hall
> Ashland, Ohio 44843
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

[Jason Watts]

So the spec sheet on that site mentions 2Gbps over 802.11N 2x2 MIMO.

Nope. 

Unfortunately that looks like vaporware or a  site designed to look like a real 
product until you read it.

The WiFiber SmartSecurity paper talks about motion detecting IP cameras and the 
next bullet mentions his these same cameras can be used to share moments with 
family and friends.

It's like someone took data sheets from five different products that are not 
wireless backhaul and smooshed them together.

I wouldn't care if the in-person pitch was perfect, if I saw that website I 
would run away.

If it IS wireless backhaul you're shopping for then there are plenty of decent 
products including the aforementioned Airfiber from Ubiquiti.


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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:01 AM, Davidoff, Michel  wrote:
> 
> How about Wi-Fiber
>  
>  
>  
> Michel Davidoff
> Director CyberInfrastructure
> California State University, Chancellor's Office
> Tel  562 951 8419
> Cell 707 481 1084
>  
> It is amazing what we can achieve together when nobody cares who gets the 
> credit
>  
>  
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>  on behalf of Jeremy Gibbs 
> 
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> 
> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 6:51 PM
> To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince
>  
> You know, I needed a laugh today and someone delivered, thanks!  
> 
> In all seriousness, are you referring to Ubiquiti Airfiber? 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jeremy L. Gibbs
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Utica College IITS
> 
> T: (315) 223-2383
> F: (315) 792-3814
> E: jlgi...@utica.edu
> http://www.utica.edu
>  
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Samuel Clements  wrote:
> 802.11bh ?
> 
> This email sent from a mobile computing device. Please excuse typos and 
> brevity.
> 
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Jeremy Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Yup, googled it and came up with Wisconsin Sheep and Wool Festival.  I don't 
> think that's right.. 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jeremy L. Gibbs
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Utica College IITS
> 
> T: (315) 223-2383
> F: (315) 792-3814
> E: jlgi...@utica.edu
> http://www.utica.edu
>  
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Jason Watts  wrote:
> That doesn't appear to be a real website
> 
>  
> On 6/16/2016 4:19 PM, Davidoff, Michel wrote:
> I would like to know if you have heard or if you are using products from 
> wi-fiber.com for inside or outside deployment.
>  
>  
>  
> Michel Davidoff
> Director CyberInfrastructure
> California State University, Chancellor's Office
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

[Jason Watts]

That doesn't appear to be a real website


On 6/16/2016 4:19 PM, Davidoff, Michel wrote:


I would like to know if you have heard or if you are using products 
from wi-fiber.com for inside or outside deployment.


Michel Davidoff

Director CyberInfrastructure

California State University, Chancellor's Office

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators

[Jason Watts]

Our security installer uses coax to Ethernet converters for elevator IP cams 
because there aren't usually Cat cables in the traveler cable bundle. We had 
some solid-core installed along the traveler in a new building in 2010 and it 
failed within a year due to the constant flexing. Though I'm sure something 
must have been engineered by now to fit the bill. 

I'd be curious to know if anyone has a spec for a traveler cable with Cat5 or 
better built in.

-- 
Jason Watts


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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Chris Adams (IT)  wrote:
> 
> I have seen POE IP Cameras in (newer) elevators – I’m sure additional 
> ethernet drops could be included at the time of installation. Retrofitting 
> into existing elevators may be a more difficult task.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chris Adams
>  
> Director, Network & Telecom Services
> Division of Information Technology
> University of North Georgia
> E-Mail: chris.ad...@ung.edu | Office: (706) 867-2891
> 
> 
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>  on behalf of "Sullivan, Don" 
> 
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM
> To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and 
> Elevators
> 
> It’s a really great question just considering new/major re-work. I’m 
> wondering if the elevator manufacturers might start remodeling the elevators 
> to allow for wireless access points in addition to the emergency phones 
> already required. To that point I wonder if it will eventually become part of 
> the local building codes.
>  
> Don Sullivan
> Network Administrator
> 205-726-2111
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:21 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and 
> Elevators
>  
> Hi Don-
>  
> I agree on the costs. I’m thinking opportunistically, like where a major 
> re-work or new building might be in work versus retrofit. There’s a lot of 
> technical  and philosophical points to be considered, for sure.
>  
> -Lee
>  
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Sullivan, Don
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:15 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and 
> Elevators
>  
> Lee,
>  
> Our thoughts and planning on this subject started about the time I read your 
> email.  J
>  
> I have not given any thought to this before but your email has raised 
> questions as to what we might need to consider going forward. Considering how 
> we would implement something like this in our current buildings/facilities 
> would be a challenge and a potentially costly one.
>  
> Don Sullivan
> Network Administrator
> 205-726-2111
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:26 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and 
> Elevators
>  
> Hello to the excellent group.
>  
> As you get into new building wireless deployments, I’m wondering if anyone is 
> rethinking their coverage of elevators (like with dedicated coverage in each 
> car) and stairwells (also specific coverage, not just bleed out from 
> hallways) now that we’re into the era of Wi-FI calling, RTLS, safety apps, 
> etc.
>  
> Granted, if you have an established VoWiFi culture, the question may seem 
> low-brow, for the rest of us I’d love to hear your thoughts on what you are 
> doing with WLAN in stairwells and elevators, what you’re planning on doing 
> differently from what you’ve done in the past (if anything), whys and 
> why-nots, and general thoughts on the topic.
>  
> Thanks-
>  
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>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How to handle Wi-Fi Calling?

[Jason Watts]

they switch between platforms; the call will be 
dropped?
5)  Would we be responsible for maintaining redundant Internet 
connections just to support cell calls?  Is there any requirement 
that would state that since we are providing cellular infrastructure 
that we are responsible for a certain minimum SLA?


Is there any other questions or comments to think about?

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

[Jason Watts]

Yeah, we're East coast, though we've had an earthquake that caused building 
cracks. Nothing fell that I'm aware of though.

I know that Cisco directs people to the Oberon mounts, I just don't see why 
they didn't bother to design a mount themselves.
Or buy up Oberon, that would be more their m.o.

Mind sharing where you got those for under $50? Did you have to buy hundreds?




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> On Sep 13, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Jeffrey D. Sessler  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll add that with t-bar mounting, we often add a secondary cable strap from 
> the AP to a solid mount. Should the t-bar come apart during an earthquake the 
> AP should be captured by the secondary cable. This is similar to what we do 
> for chandeliers, wall mounted LCD/TV, etc. Then again, we are in So Cal, so 
> earthquakes are a given. 
> 
> For the Oberon, I believe I paid under $50 each for them. Cisco’s deployment 
> guide for the 3700-series specifically mentions the Oberon (and only the 
> Oberon) under the wall mounting section. I took that to be about as Official 
> as can be without Cisco OEM’ing them. :)
> 
> Jeff
> 
> From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" on behalf of Jason Watts
> Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"
> Date: Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 9:32 AM
> To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket
> 
> Jeff is right. If the correct mounts can be budgeted and found then go with 
> them. We always try to mount using the t-bar scissor clamp if a ceiling 
> exists or direct to solid ceiling structure if possible. 
> 
> Barring that it's best to check with risk management if you use something 
> non-standard. 
> 
> I'd only seen the Oberon units prior to Dan's post and am a fair bit more 
> interested in the Terra-Wave mounts having seen them.
> 
> It's still a pity that Cisco doesn't offer anything official and for a 
> reasonable price. I don't think these pieces should cost more than $30/AP and 
> could be paintable by the user to add flexibility and lower cost if people 
> don't want the added expense of the powder coated white.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/2015 11:25 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote:
>> Here is my PSA about the shelf brackets and other creative mountings.
>> 
>> If this is your home, then your choice of how to mount is up to you.
>> 
>> If this is your university, make sure to consult with risk-management. If 
>> the brackets aren't engineered for mounting these devices and there is a 
>> chance that they could fall and hit someone, say during an earthquake, you 
>> may want to spend the extra money on an item specifically engineered for the 
>> purpose. If nothing more, it’s inexpensive insurance against a lawsuit.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" on behalf of Jason Watts
>> Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"
>> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM
>> To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu"
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket
>> 
>> I've been using these shelf brackets with some modification. I use 
>> self-tapping screws carefully placed, and they are two piece, so the plastic 
>> piece comes off revealing a channeled bracket. I am using a stepped hole saw 
>> and passing the cable through the bracket straight into the channel. A tiny 
>> mod to the plastic cover where it overlaps the AP and you can barely spot 
>> the patch.
>> 
>> I can post a picture of one next week.
>> 
>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-9-1-in-x-5-8-in-White-Designer-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0036-WT/204611772
>> 
>>> On 9/11/2015 3:03 PM, Dan Brisson wrote:
>>> I'm wondering if anyone out there can recommend a horizontal mounting 
>>> bracket for Cisco APs.  Ventev TerraWave has a new model out and Oberon has 
>>> had them for a while.  The TerraWave model looks good but comes in at 
>>> around $100, which is bit pricy for me. 
>>> 
>>> The ideal bracket would be able to be screwed to a standard single gang 
>>> electrical box. 
>>> 
>>> Anybody have any other recommendations? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> -dan
>> 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

[Jason Watts]

Jeff is right. If the correct mounts can be budgeted and found then go 
with them. We always try to mount using the t-bar scissor clamp if a 
ceiling exists or direct to solid ceiling structure if possible.


Barring that it's best to check with risk management if you use 
something non-standard.


I'd only seen the Oberon units prior to Dan's post and am a fair bit 
more interested in the Terra-Wave mounts having seen them.


It's still a pity that Cisco doesn't offer anything official and for a 
reasonable price. I don't think these pieces should cost more than 
$30/AP and could be paintable by the user to add flexibility and lower 
cost if people don't want the added expense of the powder coated white.




On 9/12/2015 11:25 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote:

Here is my PSA about the shelf brackets and other creative mountings.

If this is your home, then your choice of how to mount is up to you.

If this is your university, make sure to consult with risk-management. 
If the brackets aren't engineered for mounting these devices and there 
is a chance that they could fall and hit someone, say during an 
earthquake, you may want to spend the extra money on an item 
specifically engineered for the purpose. If nothing more, it’s 
inexpensive insurance against a lawsuit.


Jeff

From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu 
<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" on behalf of Jason Watts
Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu 
<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"

Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM
To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu 
<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"

Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

I've been using these 
<http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-9-1-in-x-5-8-in-White-Designer-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0036-WT/204611772> 
shelf brackets with some modification. I use self-tapping screws 
carefully placed, and they are two piece, so the plastic piece comes 
off revealing a channeled bracket. I am using a stepped hole saw and 
passing the cable through the bracket straight into the channel. A 
tiny mod to the plastic cover where it overlaps the AP and you can 
barely spot the patch.


I can post a picture of one next week.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-9-1-in-x-5-8-in-White-Designer-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0036-WT/204611772

On 9/11/2015 3:03 PM, Dan Brisson wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone out there can recommend a horizontal mounting 
bracket for Cisco APs.  Ventev TerraWave has a new model out and 
Oberon has had them for a while.  The TerraWave model looks good but 
comes in at around $100, which is bit pricy for me.


The ideal bracket would be able to be screwed to a standard single 
gang electrical box.


Anybody have any other recommendations?

Thanks,
-dan




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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco AP Horizontal Mounting Bracket

[Jason Watts]

I've been using these 
<http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-9-1-in-x-5-8-in-White-Designer-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0036-WT/204611772> 
shelf brackets with some modification. I use self-tapping screws 
carefully placed, and they are two piece, so the plastic piece comes off 
revealing a channeled bracket. I am using a stepped hole saw and passing 
the cable through the bracket straight into the channel. A tiny mod to 
the plastic cover where it overlaps the AP and you can barely spot the 
patch.


I can post a picture of one next week.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-9-1-in-x-5-8-in-White-Designer-Shelf-Bracket-EB-0036-WT/204611772

On 9/11/2015 3:03 PM, Dan Brisson wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone out there can recommend a horizontal mounting 
bracket for Cisco APs.  Ventev TerraWave has a new model out and 
Oberon has had them for a while.  The TerraWave model looks good but 
comes in at around $100, which is bit pricy for me.


The ideal bracket would be able to be screwed to a standard single 
gang electrical box.


Anybody have any other recommendations?

Thanks,
-dan




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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] PoE Issue, Cisco Switches- Let's Poll The Audience!

[Jason Watts]

Lee,

I’ve seen this once recently on a WS-C3560G-48PS  The issue was specific to the 
shared port group on the board and cleared after reboot. Other ports on the 
switch outside of that 12-port group were fine before reboot. I did not open a 
TAC case on it.

That switch was running 122-55.SE7 at the time.

-J




> On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Lee H Badman  wrote:
> 
> We’re also going through TAC on this, but I’d like to see if anyone else is 
> seeing similar in their Cisco switching environment and might have 
> perspective to share.
>  
> We have an odd, seemingly spontaneous condition where  PoE stops working on a 
> port or two, with only switch reboot bringing it back. Most recent switch:  
> WS-C3560X-48 on 15.0(2)SE7.
>  
> Problem/discovery flow:
>  
> One AP out of several on switch goes down
> Access switch, “show power inline” shows problem AP port has lost it’s PoE  
> detection signature and is only showing IEEE PD 
> All other AP ports are fine
> For problem port, remove PoE (Power Inline Never) then restore PoE (Power 
> Inline Auto)- Port now dead, will not come back -also do shut/no shut,makes 
> no difference to condition
> No error disable on port. No obvious reason for switch being out.
> Show environment/post commands reveal no issues with switch power or power 
> controller
> Only a reboot restores PoE to problem port
>  
> Seeing the same sort of condition on PoE camera ports as well- seems very 
> much to be a pure switch issue, nothing to do with AP version/model in this 
> case.
>  
> Does this ring familiar for anyone?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Lee Badman
>  
>  
>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Bridge Recommendations

[Jason Watts]

It sounds like you’re looking for a PMP (point to multi-point) solution. 
Unfortunately I can’t offer any experience with one of those products.

However, we have used both Bridgewave GE60 and Ubiquiti Airfiber AF24 products 
to serve nearby buildings up to 1.2km. They provide great throughput, latency, 
and reliability, but are not multipoint so each link is a pair of radios.

I cannot tell easily from their website what the correct offering would be but 
Dragonwave may offer fast PMP links. Cambium appears to be a vendor that can do 
this as well, though the subscriber end speeds look to top out at 125Mbps. I 
know Cisco has had some PMP bridging solutions in the past as well but I’m not 
sure if they have anything current.

Some other concerns that come to mind are:

Frequency (licensed or unlicensed?, noisy environement?)
Weather (does it snow at your campus, does the vendor offer a heater)
Power (POE or AC?)
Backbone cabling (fiber, copper? Can it be managed inline, OOB, or selectable?)

Good luck and let us know if you find a PMP solution that you like.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE



> On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mike Ricci  
> wrote:
> 
> As our campus rapidly changes and grows, we began placing office spaces in 
> our offsite residential housing. Initially, we built out a large two story 
> office area that has a fixed connection back to our main campus. Networking 
> within the same building was simple as we did this during the renovation. 
>  
> With our growth, the administration is now planning on throwing together 
> another Ad Hoc office space in a separate building. This building is 
> relatively close to our main office space (+-50 feet), however we have no 
> cabling between buildings and no conduits in place.  I’m interested in 
> testing out a low latency line of site wireless bridge, one that I could 
> utilize to distribute to multiple buildings as our growth continues, across 
> up to 1000 feet and from 100-1000mbps speeds.
>  
> Can you share what vendors you’ve had success with? Engenius, Ubiquiti, etc., 
> come to mind initially. 
>  
> 
>  
> Mike Ricci
> Operations Mgr/Infrastructure Architect
> 310.303.7263, Direct
>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs

[Jason Watts]

I didn't read that site literature as meaning WiFi control of the lights.

It says "wireless control" and specifically mentions licensed spectrum which 
WiFi is not.

I think they are completely separate but possibly complimentary features or 
options for the lights.

The wireless control system is likely just that, low frequency lighting control 
possibly with a mesh network to actively control the lights. The WiFi element 
is likely an add-on because of the fact that lights are usually evenly 
dispersed and provide a good overhead vantage point. There is also a good 
chance that most lights will get conduit from an adjacent building so that 
would provide a path back to the network. 

It seems like unless the lighting company or contractor selling it is beholden 
to Ruckus that the WiFi equipment vendor could be interchangeable as long as it 
fits and the environmentals are taken care of.

-- 
Jason Watts
Pratt Institute, Academic Computing


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Watters, John  wrote:
> 
> And now I am confused too. My impression from my Asst CIO was that the 
> wireless was to server clients. But the literature talks about WiFi control 
> of the lights. Maybe my Asst CIO heard what he wanted to hear.
>  
> I have a request in to the company for a call back. Will let the list know 
> what I find out.
>  
> I am aware of the Cisco offerings. The major objection seems to be the 
> aesthetics.
>  
>  
> Thanks for the help and interest in this project.
>  
>  
> -jcw  
> 
>   
>
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
> Office of Information 
> Technology
> 205-348-3992
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:59 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>  
> The documentation from the website mentions SENSUS USA, FCC-Licensed spectrum
> At the same time, John Watters is being asked to investigate Ruckus APs 
> Zoneflex T300 (mentioned in his original email) to be installed in LED lights.
> In a second email from John the brand GlobalGreenLightning is being mentioned.
>  
> So the sentence “industry leading wireless control system” made me mix Ruckus 
> and SENSUS USA.
>  
> But now I’m curious… is the whole lightning system wirelessly controlled by 
> SENSUS USA and in addition
> there is room to add Wi-Fi?  (Does it have to be Ruckus?)
>  
> Chris Howard, since you are in Chattanooga and so is GGL (and I’m at least 
> 100 miles away from you in Knoxville),
> could you tell us more?
>  
> Sorry about this mess,
>  
> Philippe
>  
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us
>  
>  
>  
> On May 12, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Jason Watts  wrote:
>  
>  
> On May 12, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Philippe Hanset  wrote:
>  
> John,
>  
> It looks like if your University selected GlobalGreenLightning
> you really don't have a choice as to which AP vendor you can use.
>  
> http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology
>  
> "To do this, we have merged cutting-edge, low-energy lighting with an 
> industry-leading wireless control system”
>  
> So the Ruckus AP is actually a requirement.
>  
> Am I reading this wrong?
>  
> Philippe,
>  
> Where on the page you linked is Ruckus even mentioned? I read that page as 
> talking about the lighting control system which it says runs on a licensed 
> band using technology licensed from Sensus. Probably some lower frequency 
> non-wifi stuff. I don’t see Ruckus mentioned on that page unless I’m missing 
> something.
>  
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
>  
> PRATT INSTITUTE
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Philippe
>  
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us
>  
>  
>  
> On May 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Howard, Christopher  
> wrote:
>  
> They are based out of Chattanooga so of course we have had discussions with 
> them.  We decided against APs in lights for a number of reasons.  
>  
> 1. We are an Aruba shop.  We want a seamless roaming experience for our users 
> and feel that multiple vendor networks would hinder that.  We also have 1 
> wireless admin for the entire campus and don't have the manpower to manage a 
> separate wireless network.
> 2. They wanted to put security cameras on the lights as well.  Since we use

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs

[Jason Watts]

> On May 12, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Philippe Hanset  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> It looks like if your University selected GlobalGreenLightning
> you really don't have a choice as to which AP vendor you can use.
> 
> http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology 
> <http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology>
> 
> "To do this, we have merged cutting-edge, low-energy lighting with an 
> industry-leading wireless control system”
> 
> So the Ruckus AP is actually a requirement.
> 
> Am I reading this wrong?

Philippe,

Where on the page you linked is Ruckus even mentioned? I read that page as 
talking about the lighting control system which it says runs on a licensed band 
using technology licensed from Sensus. Probably some lower frequency non-wifi 
stuff. I don’t see Ruckus mentioned on that page unless I’m missing something.

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE



> 
> 
> Philippe
> 
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us <http://www.eduroam.us/>
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Howard, Christopher > <mailto:christopher-how...@utc.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> They are based out of Chattanooga so of course we have had discussions with 
>> them.  We decided against APs in lights for a number of reasons.  
>> 
>> 1. We are an Aruba shop.  We want a seamless roaming experience for our 
>> users and feel that multiple vendor networks would hinder that.  We also 
>> have 1 wireless admin for the entire campus and don't have the manpower to 
>> manage a separate wireless network.
>> 2. They wanted to put security cameras on the lights as well.  Since we use 
>> separate vlans for cameras and APs, we would need a switch.  However, the 
>> only switch they would put in the light was unmanageable.
>> 3. They didn't want to run cable from the lights back to our network and 
>> instead wanted to use EPB (our local ISP) fiber to just give them an IP on 
>> the internet and we could just "open our firewall" to let them in.
>> 
>> Needless to say, our lights are strictly for lighting.
>> 
>> Christopher Howard
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
>> 
>> Helping Students Achieve Excellence through Technology
>> 
>> christopher-how...@utc.edu <mailto:christopher-how...@utc.edu>
>> 423-425-1773
>> 
>> 
>> From: , John mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>>
>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM
>> To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
>> > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>> 
>>  
>> I do have a number of Cisco 1142 APs that I could play with.
>>  
>> I don't even see how any AP can be mounted in the glass globe. Surely they 
>> are not just set inside leaning against the inside of the globe.
>>  
>> Does anyone use exterior lighting by GlobalGreenLighting with wireless APs 
>> in each device?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -jcw 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> John Watters   The University of Alabama
>> Office of Information 
>> Technology
>> 205-348-3992
>>  
>> From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:phan...@anyroam.net 
>> <mailto:phan...@anyroam.net>] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Watters, John
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>  
>> John,
>>  
>> When I was at UTK we installed  APs outdoor in PVC electrical boxes in the 
>> sun and they “survived”
>> the elements for at least 4 years. We felt comfortable doing this because we 
>> used recycled APs or “cheap APs” that would have
>> not wasted State funds had it failed miserably. At least request from the 
>> assistant CIO to stress test a unit before going in production.
>>  
>> Don’t you have older 802.11n Cisco APs that you could use for a sample 
>> configuration?
>>  
>> Philippe
>>  
>> Philippe Hanset
>> www.anyroam.net <http://www.anyroam.net/>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On May 12, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Lee H 

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC OS X Yosemite 10.10.2 Wi-Fi issues (update)

[Jason Watts]

I second Gertjan’s questions and also wonder if anyone is clear as to whether 
having just Channel Announcement turned on would cause this effect. Currently 
our controllers are configured as such and I’m seeing some new Macbook 
Pro/Yosemite issues.




Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing




> On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Scharloo, Gertjan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kees, <>
>  
> Thanks for this advise!
>  
> Question : 802.11h works only together with 5 GHz. In a Cisco environment you 
> can choice between 802.11h or DTPC (802.11a Global parameters/General)
>  
> Are there also known problems with DTPC and Yosemite and Is it wise to turn 
> off (temporarily) 802.11h and turn on DTPC for 5 GHz ?
>  
> Gertjan Scharloo
> ICT Consultant
> _
>  
> Universiteit van Amsterdam | Hogeschool van Amsterdam
>  
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> Weesperzijde 190 | 1097 DZ Amsterdam 
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>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Kees Pronk
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 2:55 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC OS X Yosemite 10.10.2 Wi-Fi issues (update)
>  
> FYI : 
>  
> I think I found a very relevant post about Yosemite issues in enterprise WLAN 
> environments.
> IMHO due to many IE received in a large environment, MacBooks with Yosemite 
> OSX can/will falter.
>  
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6825371 
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6825371>
>  
> Sincerely, Kees Pronk
>  
> On 03 Mar 2015, at 14:47, Walter Reynolds  <mailto:wa...@umich.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> The reason we turn off IPv6 is basically that some Mac's were unable to get a 
> IPv4 address when they had V6 enabled.
>  
> It has been a problem for a while, and at this point it is just one of the 
> many issues we have with Apple devices in general, not just on 10.10
>  
> We do have Cisco, but do not have V6 enabled everywhere.
>  
> No link to the page as it is an internal document.  That is why I copied the 
> text and put it in the email.  
> 
>  
> 
> Walter Reynolds
> Principal Systems Security Development Engineer
> Information and Technology Services
> University of Michigan
> (734) 615-9438
>  
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Frans Panken  <mailto:frans.pan...@surfnet.nl>> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
> Good suggestions. What is the reason you suggest to turn off IPv6 on Wi-Fi? 
> Do you have Cisco (we have a TAC case where IPv6 does not work well)? I 
> wonder which Wi-Fi degradations you prevent by turning off IPv6. Can you 
> explain (link to a page)?
> -Frans
> 
> Walter Reynolds schreef op 03/03/15 om 13:49:
> We also have seen a huge rise in issues.  10.10.3 which is being tested right 
> now seems better, but not a solution.  Here is some of what we tell folks who 
> have issues.  The firts set removes all network settings, but seems to help 
> the most.
>  
>  
> REMOVE MACHINE NETWORKING PREFERENCES
> 
> Click on the WiFi icon in the top menu bar and select: Turn Wi-Fi Off.
> Click anywhere on the desktop.
> Click on Go on the top of your screen.
> Choose Computer
> Choose your hard drive (it may be named "Macintosh HD")
> Choose Library
> Choose Preferences
> Choose SystemConfiguration
> If the following items exist in the SystemConfiguration folder, drag them to 
> the trash. (Note: They may not all exist.)
>   com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
>   com.apple.eapolclient.plist
>   com.apple.network.eapolclient.configuration.plist
>   com.apple.network.identification.plist
>   com.apple.wifi.message-tracer.plist
> 
>   NetworkInterfaces.plist
>   preferences.plist
> Restart your computer.
> NOTE: After doing this step, you will need to rejoin any WiFi networks you 
> have at home, etc.
> 
> ADJUST WIFI NETWORK WAKE SETTINGS
> 
> Open the Energy Saver system preferences (It can be found at Apple Menu > 
> System Preferences... > Energy Saver)
> If using a Macintosh laptop, click on the Power Adapter button.
> Uncheck Wake for Wi-Fi network access.
>  
> ADJUST AIRDROP SETTINGS (NOTE: This step is only for newer Macs having the 
> awdl0 interface)
> 
> In the bottom dock, click on the Finder icon.
> In the Finder window that ap

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] netflix question

[Jason Watts]

Dexter,

Are high bitrate streams from mobile devices really a big concern? I would 
think most devices would communicate the device type either by user-agent or 
the platform specific app and the stream provider would have built in the 
intelligence to optimize the stream size. 

While wanting to deliver the best experience I think content providers are also 
faced with the problem of bandwidth expense and would look anywhere and 
everywhere to lighten the load, hence adaptive bitrate streams. This also goes 
back to the user experience issue. Netflix knows that trying to stuff a 4k 
stream through a weak wireless signal on a phone will likely provide a crappy 
user experience at a higher cost and therefore have built-in the adaptability 
to provide the best quality that is appropriate for the receiver which often 
means lowering the bitrate.

(PS, I’m curious about your experience with those shapers, the PS1 here is 
quite long in the tooth)

Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator

PRATT INSTITUTE
Academic Computing




> On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Dexter Caldwell  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve testing a Procera right now, along with an Exinda.
>  
> One nice thing about the former, it can do device profiling/fingerprinting- 
> so in theory, you could probably build a set of policies that effectively 
> said for a phones, you want to squeeze bandwidth down so that smaller 
> screens, don’t ever pull an HD or say 4K video stream when they become more 
> prevalent.  But perhaps tablets and could.
>  
> Has anyone tried anything like this using the fingerprinting?
>  
> D/C
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:04 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] netflix question
>  
> We don’t charge students based on usage or tiered levels of service and 
> currently don’t have major bandwidth issues, but are keeping a close eye on 
> it.
>  
> That being said, for a 24 hour period, streaming video is approximately 2/3 
> of all bandwidth usage. That includes Netflix, YouTube, etc. 40% just for 
> Netflix is approximately accurate for us as well. We use a Procera 
> PacketLogic but don’t explicitly limit streaming media. That will be the 
> first controls we add if bandwidth does become an issue. During 
> class/business hours, the overall streaming video is closer to ½ of all 
> bandwidth and doesn’t start increasing until about 7pm, peaks at 1am, and 
> falls off a cliff to nothing about 1:30am.
>  
> Thomas Carter
> Network and Operations Manager
> Austin College 
> 903-813-2564
> 
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> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] netflix question
>  
> I wanted to know if Netflix has been a problem for other schools, 
> specifically those with large residential campuses.
>  
> We’ve seen usage on our campus grow a lot over the past few years, and our 
> response has been to implement a bandwidth cap on Netflix from 8 am to 10 pm. 
>  This pretty much makes Netflix unusable during the day.  When we lift the 
> bandwidth cap at night, Netflix takes up around 40% of our total traffic.
>  
> I’m curious if other schools are dealing with Netflix bandwidth issues and 
> what solutions you have implemented that allows students to enjoy Netflix 
> without impacting the usability of the network.
>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless client test bed

[Jason Watts]

Fair points all and pretty much reinforces my gut feeling about it, but I value 
the perspectives of this list and wanted to be sure I wasn't overlooking 
something. There's certainly no substitute for reality.

-- 
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Jeffrey Sessler  wrote:
> 
> And even if you do replicate it 100%, there is more to a problem then just 
> the device.
>  
> For example, we ran into an issue with an iMac and wifi connectivity where we 
> couldn't reproduce it in our lab. By pure accident, we discovered that the 
> problem manifested itself only if the iMac was rotated so its rear was at a 
> 45 deg angle relative to the position of the AP's antenna's. Any other 
> orientation and it had no issues.
>  
> Jeff
> 
> >>> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 at 9:33 AM, in message 
> >>> <82a99f9da460534f98254bbc299e7612012d946...@ex10mbn01.ua-net.ua.edu>, 
> >>> "Watters, John"  wrote:
> Agreed. With 60,000+ devices on our campus there are hundreds of unique 
> combinations of hardware & software. It would be impossible to get even 75% 
> of the different setups in a test lab. We have neither the budget, the time, 
> the space, nor definitive info on what hardware/software combinations are 
> needed to even attempt a good test bed.
>  
>  
> -jcw  
> 
>   
> 
> John Watters   The University of Alabama
> Office of Information 
> Technology
> 205-348-3992
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:27 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless client testbed
>  
> Stick with the actual problem machine. You'll never replicate all the 
> variables between hardware/software/user config.
>  
> -Lee Badman
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Jason Watts  wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering what folks do to test/recreate issues that clients are having 
> when there are such a mix of OS's, patch levels, client chipsets, and drivers.
> Does anyone have a testbed system that works well for recreating a client 
> setup?
> 
> I'm imagining a system that may be configured with multiple boot disks 
> (various OSes) and an array of PCI and USB wireless adapters with different 
> chipsets.
> 
> 'Is anyone doing anything like this or do you simply work through all issues 
> with the client machine if it's accessible and time permitting?
> 
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Wireless client testbed

[Jason Watts]

  
  
I'm wondering what folks do to test/recreate issues that clients are
having when there are such a mix of OS's, patch levels, client
chipsets, and drivers.
Does anyone have a testbed system that works well for recreating a
client setup?

I'm imagining a system that may be configured with multiple boot
disks (various OSes) and an array of PCI and USB wireless adapters
with different chipsets.

Is anyone doing anything like this or do you simply work through all
issues with the client machine if it's accessible and time
permitting?

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  Senior Network Administrator
  W1
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  INSTITUTE
  Academic Computing
  
  

  

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc

[Jason Watts]

Lee,

Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment 
which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean 
which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy 
harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are 
non-wiring dependent.


Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard:

http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/

We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some 
lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet.


--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:

My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net
anyways…
Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound
controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN?
Thanks-
Lee
Lee Badman
Wireless/Network Architect
ITS, Syracuse University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Power Management

[Jason Watts]

John,

Can't help you with the GUI end but you can achieve what you want with 
some simple CLI commands:


show power inline

This provides a complete summary of all POE ports and power budget on 
the switch or stack.


show power inline | include 

This filters for the string you provide, so if it's unique enough you 
only get lines that match.


When configuring any interface you can disable POE by issuing:

power inline never

and you can re-enable it with:

power inline auto

Hope that helps.

--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator
p. 718-399-4219
f. 718-399-3416

On 9/8/2014 12:22 PM, Watters, John wrote:

I have been using the PowerDsine PoE inserters (6, 12, & 24 ports) for
years and am generally very pleased with them. We started using them
before VoIP caught on and before our switches had built-in PoE. I am now
getting pressure to abandon the PowerDsine devices since all of our new
switches do have PoE (mostly using Cisco 3750x/3850x for distribution now).

The problem I have with abandoning the PowerDsine units is the lack of a
nice graphical management tool for the PoE on my Cisco switches. Has
anyone found a nice tool for power management of Cisco switches?

At a minimum I need to see the interface name, the interface
description, and the current power usage; and be able to easily toggle
power off and back on. It would be very nice to be able to only show the
interfaces that have a description matching a specified mask so I could
look at only APs, only phones, all, etc., based on my mask.

We don’t really want to turn on HTTP for the switches, but we could if
this would provide what we need for power management.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

-jcw UA Logo

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with Blackboard wireless POS device connectivity

[Jason Watts]

Vikki,

From the controller or NCS is the client associated properly and 
passing traffic?


Is the wireless subnet able to route to the Blackboard server IP?

Can a computer joined to the same network ping or reach the server on 
port 1319?


Is port 1319 actually open on the Blackboard server? If so, is it 
restricted to local subnet scope?


Is the Blackboard server defined by IP,FQDN, or short name in the POS 
device interface? If by DNS then can it properly resolve the IP?


Can you capture traffic at the server or controller to see if the client 
traffic is making it there?


--
Jason Watts
Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


On 8/26/2014 10:38 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:

​could it be a data rate issue- like the device needs legacy rates that
perhaps are disabled?




*Lee H. Badman*
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*Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:16 AM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with Blackboard wireless POS device
connectivity
Good Morning-

I am having problems with a BlackBoard wireless point of sale device,I
have a SSID (WPA PSK)set up- and the device connects to the wireless but
not to the BlackBoard server-  has anyone else had issues with
Blackboard devices?  I am running Cisco 5508 with 3600, 3700, 1131 and
1242 WAPS- The SSID is set to only b/g .  The error is port 1319 is
blocked .  I removed ALL ACL's on all Vlans involved.

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Vassar College, Box 13
124 Raymond Ave
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1X and Heartbleed...

[Jason Watts]

Thanks for the clarification.

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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


Hanset, Philippe C wrote:

Jason,

Since the RADIUS server terminates the EAP session, it will be vulnerable to 
the attack.

Philippe

On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Jason Watts  wrote:


I'm not sure it's common that clients speak directly to a radius server. 
Usually there is a NAS in between whether it be VPN concentrator, switch, 
wireless controller/AP etc. If your clients reside on subnets that have no 
visibility to the Radius server and NAS management subnets then you'd only need 
to check your NAS devices for OpenSSL related vulnerabilities, no?

--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator
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Hanset, Philippe C wrote:

All,

We have been informing eduroam connected schools in the US that were vulnerable
to heartbleed (about 10 schools were vulnerable out of 180 connected to 
eduroam-US, less than 5%).
The eduroam federation did testing for all eduroam-connected campuses to 
evaluate the level of vulnerability and we have informed each RADIUS 
administrator
independently.

This said, ANY campus that operates a 802.1X network and uses a RADIUS server 
using OpenSSL could be potentially at risk since an attacker can access the 
RADIUS server via the local WPA/WAP2-enterprise network.
It does require for the attacker to be physically on campus and join the SSID, 
but the risk still exists!

Please analyze your systems for the vulnerability (look into the version of 
OpenSSL that you are running)
and take the appropriate measures.

Here are a few links about Heartbleed and RADIUS
http://freeradius.org/security.html
http://www.open.com.au/pipermail/radiator-announce/2014-April/24.html
https://confluence.terena.org/display/H2eduroam/heartbleed-note

Thank you,

Philippe

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1X and Heartbleed...

[Jason Watts]

I'm not sure it's common that clients speak directly to a radius server. 
Usually there is a NAS in between whether it be VPN concentrator, 
switch, wireless controller/AP etc. If your clients reside on subnets 
that have no visibility to the Radius server and NAS management subnets 
then you'd only need to check your NAS devices for OpenSSL related 
vulnerabilities, no?


--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator
p. 718-399-4219
f. 718-399-3416

Hanset, Philippe C wrote:

All,

We have been informing eduroam connected schools in the US that were vulnerable
to heartbleed (about 10 schools were vulnerable out of 180 connected to 
eduroam-US, less than 5%).
The eduroam federation did testing for all eduroam-connected campuses to 
evaluate the level of vulnerability and we have informed each RADIUS 
administrator
independently.

This said, ANY campus that operates a 802.1X network and uses a RADIUS server 
using OpenSSL could be potentially at risk since an attacker can access the 
RADIUS server via the local WPA/WAP2-enterprise network.
It does require for the attacker to be physically on campus and join the SSID, 
but the risk still exists!

Please analyze your systems for the vulnerability (look into the version of 
OpenSSL that you are running)
and take the appropriate measures.

Here are a few links about Heartbleed and RADIUS
http://freeradius.org/security.html
http://www.open.com.au/pipermail/radiator-announce/2014-April/24.html
https://confluence.terena.org/display/H2eduroam/heartbleed-note

Thank you,

Philippe

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

[Jason Watts]

I was referring to the logical positioning on the network. I'm assuming a 
scenario wherein you want Bluetooth discovery to work but want to limit who can 
connect once discovered. 

-- 
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)" 
>  wrote:
> 
> The easier solution is to turn off Bluetooth on the Apple TV. 
> Of course, this will not work if you are using a Bluetooth keyboard with the 
> Apple TV.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Watts [mailto:jwa...@pratt.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth
> 
> Tim,
> 
> That seems fairly clean based on the fact that the user authentication is 
> done at the AP and isn't needed past that.
> 
> Does the way Airgroup works make this automatically apply to people locating 
> the ATV via Bluetooth, as in, does the Airgroup policy or control 
> automatically filter all traffic to devices for which a user is not 
> authorized? Or does it just prevent the client from getting service 
> announcements from the serving device?
> 
> BTW, I'm realizing as I think this through that as long as you have a way to 
> apply ACLs separately to students/faculty/staff and you keep your ATVs in a 
> specific VLAN from which student, but not faculty traffic, is blocked then 
> the point about authenticating at the ATV is moot.
> 
> Even if they can "see" it with Bluetooth if you position the ATVs out of 
> student reach on the network then you have no issue.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jason Watts
> Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
> Senior Network Administrator
> 
> 
> Tim Cappalli wrote:
>> We're doing this with AirGroup.
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Cappalli  | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA
>> Mobility Engineer  |  Brandeis University
>> cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149
>> @tcappy0707 | linkedin.com/in/timcappalli/
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Brisson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:49 PM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth
>> 
>> While I agree that Radius authentication would be a nice option, getting
>> Apple to add an enterprise feature like that is probably pushing it for a
>> "consumer" device.  I'm just happy they added in Enterprise 802.1x for
>> wireless.
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> -dan
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Brisson
>> Network Engineer
>> University of Vermont
>> 
>>> On 3/18/14, 11:44 AM, Jason Watts wrote:
>>> I don't know if it's the feature Tony mentions but there is a PIN
>>> feature that is essentially like an OTP that can be used as a barrier
>>> to entry.
>>> 
>>> When Airplay is started the ATV displays the PIN on screen and it must
>>> be entered at the device before connecting. I believe it changes each
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> Only issue is that it displays on the screen. If you have a fast
>>> student with mischief on their mind then I suppose it is still a
>> problem.
>>> 
>>> For the record, I agree, having the Airplay service be able to be
>>> authenticated against Radius or the like would be ideal so that only
>>> certain user roles could connect to certain ATVs.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

[Jason Watts]

Fair point.

If your authentication functions like a fall-through list then I suppose 
you can assign broader access as you move higher up the list.


If your roles don't have access models that work that way then I suppose 
it's a non-starter unless you have a way of building a per-user ACL for 
a user based on multiple group memberships.


--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


Ian McDonald wrote:

That would assume you have a clean mapping between who's a student and who is 
staff. In practice, we find our students are relatively often employees, and 
our employees, relatively often students...

Thanks

--
ian

Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and misspelling.


-Original Message-----
From: "Jason Watts" 
Sent: ‎18/‎03/‎2014 18:06
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

Tim,

That seems fairly clean based on the fact that the user authentication
is done at the AP and isn't needed past that.

Does the way Airgroup works make this automatically apply to people
locating the ATV via Bluetooth, as in, does the Airgroup policy or
control automatically filter all traffic to devices for which a user is
not authorized? Or does it just prevent the client from getting service
announcements from the serving device?

BTW, I'm realizing as I think this through that as long as you have a
way to apply ACLs separately to students/faculty/staff and you keep your
ATVs in a specific VLAN from which student, but not faculty traffic, is
blocked then the point about authenticating at the ATV is moot.

Even if they can "see" it with Bluetooth if you position the ATVs out of
student reach on the network then you have no issue.




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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

[Jason Watts]

Tim,

That seems fairly clean based on the fact that the user authentication 
is done at the AP and isn't needed past that.


Does the way Airgroup works make this automatically apply to people 
locating the ATV via Bluetooth, as in, does the Airgroup policy or 
control automatically filter all traffic to devices for which a user is 
not authorized? Or does it just prevent the client from getting service 
announcements from the serving device?


BTW, I'm realizing as I think this through that as long as you have a 
way to apply ACLs separately to students/faculty/staff and you keep your 
ATVs in a specific VLAN from which student, but not faculty traffic, is 
blocked then the point about authenticating at the ATV is moot.


Even if they can "see" it with Bluetooth if you position the ATVs out of 
student reach on the network then you have no issue.



--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


Tim Cappalli wrote:

We're doing this with AirGroup.


Tim Cappalli  | CWNA / ACCP / ACMP / CCNA
Mobility Engineer  |  Brandeis University
cappa...@brandeis.edu | (617) 701-7149
@tcappy0707 | linkedin.com/in/timcappalli/

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Brisson
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 1:49 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

While I agree that Radius authentication would be a nice option, getting
Apple to add an enterprise feature like that is probably pushing it for a
"consumer" device.  I'm just happy they added in Enterprise 802.1x for
wireless.

:)

-dan


Dan Brisson
Network Engineer
University of Vermont

On 3/18/14, 11:44 AM, Jason Watts wrote:

I don't know if it's the feature Tony mentions but there is a PIN
feature that is essentially like an OTP that can be used as a barrier
to entry.

When Airplay is started the ATV displays the PIN on screen and it must
be entered at the device before connecting. I believe it changes each
time.

Only issue is that it displays on the screen. If you have a fast
student with mischief on their mind then I suppose it is still a

problem.


For the record, I agree, having the Airplay service be able to be
authenticated against Radius or the like would be ideal so that only
certain user roles could connect to certain ATVs.



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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

[Jason Watts]

I don't know if it's the feature Tony mentions but there is a PIN 
feature that is essentially like an OTP that can be used as a barrier to 
entry.


When Airplay is started the ATV displays the PIN on screen and it must 
be entered at the device before connecting. I believe it changes each time.


Only issue is that it displays on the screen. If you have a fast student 
with mischief on their mind then I suppose it is still a problem.


For the record, I agree, having the Airplay service be able to be 
authenticated against Radius or the like would be ideal so that only 
certain user roles could connect to certain ATVs.


--
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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


Tim Cappalli wrote:

And what happens when the students figure it out? Do you have to
manually touch each AppleTV to change it?

**

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<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Tony Juarez
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*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

The ATV can be configured with a password to access Airplay, which works
great.

Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless

Network Engineer II

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*Date: *Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:20 AM
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*Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Discover Apple TV over Bluetooth

oh as in they are connected while in the room then they leave and stay
connected and the teacher cannot connect.  I guess we’ll have to deal
with it on a case by case basis.

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Tim Cappalli
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What if the student gets connected before the faculty member?

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Stephen
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Oh for us it’s great….we’ve wanted this functionality for a long time.
If the ATV is already in use the user cannot kick currently connected
user off.

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Tim Cappalli
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It doesn’t really solve anything for us. We still need network access
controls for the devices. You don’t wait a student pairing to a
classroom ATV in the middle of class.

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<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Glassman,
Stephen
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Yes, we’ve tried it and it works great!

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Deployment of AirFiber bridges

[Jason Watts]

I have one waiting to go in but has been put off due to roof penetration 
issues. I'll post my experience when it goes into service.

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Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator
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f. 718-399-3416

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> On Jan 27, 2014, at 1:22 PM, "Jack R. Madderra"  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone deployed the AirFiber bridges on their campus networks?  Please 
> provide some feedback if you have.
>  
> http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber#af
>  
> Thank you!
>  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV display mirroring spectrum use in HD wifi

[Jason Watts]

Jason (Third Jason here),

We too have been getting the lean-on from faculty and staff to bring the 
ATV experience to the classrooms and conference rooms.


To reiterate what another poster asked, your app is just allowing the 
iDevice to publish the remote ATV to itself locally, right?


My question is, does your app have all of PSU's ATV devices hard-coded 
into it or served up from a website that your app code connects to?


Is the app simply taking static DNS names or IPs of ATVs and publishing 
them locally as they are selected in the app thereby forcing the iDevice 
to resolve them on the network and enumerate them?


I hope I have the concept right. If that's the case then building a 
simple website that filters by user role, schedule, etc and lets one 
connect to any ATV on the fly would be great. I suppose you could still 
require PIN entry on the ATV to restrict access to folks within viewing 
range.


Anyhow, it sounds promising and I for one am looking forward to the code 
release. Thanks for such a cool effort.


--------
Jason Watts
Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator


On 1/17/2014 4:28 PM, Jason Heffner wrote:

Brian,

We should have the code available next week. We just need to clean up our 
Github repository. We are currently distributing the app under our iOS 
Developer Enterprise Program to all of PSU through an easy web site download.

Jason

On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Brian Helman  wrote:


Any chance you'd be willing to share that app?  My iPad is jailbroken, so I can 
sideload it.

-Brian Helman

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple TV display mirroring spectrum use in HD wifi

On Jan 17, 2014, at 3:03 AM, James Andrewartha  
wrote:


Hi Jason,

On 17/01/14 01:59, Jason Heffner wrote:

We took a slightly different approach to solve our issue with the
AppleTV specifically at Penn State. We do have a Doceri deployment
but recently we have released a PSU Airplay iOS enterprise app to
allow mirroring to AppleTVs w/o having bonjour enabled. Since I saw
this topic come up I thought it was a good time to share.

That's a very impressive solution, good thinking.

Thanks!


If interested you can find out more on a recent blog entry I wrote up
on the specifics.

http://sites.psu.edu/jasonheffner/2014/01/10/airplay-without-bonjour-
on-enterprise-wireless-networks/

So the app advertises the Airplay service over the network, but only
the device it's running on sees the advertisement because you have
multicast disabled?

That's correct. On an earlier revision we were doing SSID detection and only 
broadcasting if that network was connected. We later removed that since we 
could stop the broadcast when the app went into background, and then restart 
the broadcast when it was in foreground.


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning

[Jason Watts]

This blog post at aerohive has good info on determining transmit power on 
devices. Interesting that the report lists different power levels at different 
frequencies.

http://blogs.aerohive.com/blog/the-network-revolution/apple-ipad-3-and-other-mobile-device-wi-fi-output-power

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> On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:54 PM, "Turner, Ryan H"  wrote:
> 
> Things like iPhones are a lot lower than 25 mW.  Closer to 17. 
>  
> Ryan H Turner
> Senior Network Engineer
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
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> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Brisson
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:39 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi planning
>  
> Coming in a little late on this thread, but Tristan brings up an excellent 
> point.  We are dealing with multiple areas in our dorms where AirMagnet 
> Survey with the AirMagnet a/b/g/n card had a much better RSSI/SNR than the 
> student with an iPad or iPhone has.   What we should have done when surveying 
> was to turn down the TX power to something like 25mW, which would more 
> closely mimic a tablet or smartphone.
> 
> We are in need of a survey tablet upgrade and currently looking at a Dell XPS 
> with the built-in Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 since that appears to 
> have direct support within AirMagnet.  But I'm considering also purchasing 
> something like a Nexus 5 smartphone and using that along with the tablet to 
> check RSSI.  I would prefer to use an iPhone since that's what the majority 
> of students have, but from what I can tell there's still no decent App that 
> will give RSSI values.
> 
> Curious what folks think of that strategy.  Hopefully this is close enough to 
> the main topic to not be considered hijacking.  I had been meaning to get an 
> email out on this topic.
> 
> Thanks,
> -dan
> 
> 
> Dan Brisson
> Network Engineer
> University of Vermont
> (Ph) 802.656.8111
> dbris...@uvm.edu
> On 12/11/13, 5:38 PM, Tristan Gulyas wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> What device or test equipment is being used for the RSSI value? If we see 
> -65dBm on a Fluke AirCheck, we’re lucky to get -72dBm on an Intel 5100 in an 
> HP laptop, as an example.  We’d like to pick a specific device, eg, an iPad 
> and create standard measurements on such a device so the customer is 
> empowered to report a fault based on data they have available.
>  
> Tristan
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On 12 Dec 2013, at 8:27 am, Barros, Jacob  wrote:
> 
> 
> We are going into dorm rooms over winter break to review ap placement.  Do 
> any of you have a policy (written or unwritten) that sets a minimum RSSI for 
> a space?  For example, if the RSSI is -65 or lower then you shuffle or add an 
> ap to the area?  
>  
> 
>  
> Jake Barros  |  Network Administrator  |  Office of Information Technology
> Grace College and Seminary  |  Winona Lake, IN  |  574.372.5100 x6178
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.5 & Prime 1.4

[Jason Watts]

First time posting, just joined the list this week, should have been on 
here a decade ago.


I'm only on NCS 1.1.1.24 but I've started seeing problems with nearly 
all the latest browser versions on Mac and Windows.


In a search for a Firefox fork that doesn't exhibit these issues I came 
across Pale Moon(palemoon.org), a hardware-optimized fork of Firefox. So 
far running Pale Moon 24.1.1 I haven't experienced any of the "There was 
an error while parsing and rendering the content" or related issues that 
I'm getting on FF, Chrome, and Safari.


The one caveat being that Pale Moon is Windows-only. And of course 
there's no guarantees that the incompatibilities cropping up with other 
browsers won't appear with Pale Moon.


I suppose there's also always the option of administering from a VM with 
frozen compatible versions of browsers/Java/etc but window-in-a-window 
gets old after a while.

--
Jason Watts
Pratt Institute, Academic Computing
Senior Network Administrator

On 11/15/2013 5:59 PM, Garret Peirce wrote:


I'm using 7.5 on some 8510s w/PI1.3 , mainly due to CSCty84682 - 
dropping mcast packets (ex. bonjour announcements).


As a formerly discussed topic, I'm finding browser support is growing 
evermore painful.
I was holding off on PI 1.4 hoping not to get myself wedged into a 
specific train,





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