RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless network system

2006-09-08 Thread Ruiz, Mike
While 12 users on the AP *SHOULD* not break it, depending on the amount
of traffic being passed, simultaneity of the transmissions, whether
there is any external interference from other devices ( being in a 4
channel rotation, rogue AP's, bleed from neighboring AP on overlapping
channel) it is certainly possible.  Looking at an RF clean environment
with all 11g users on an 11g AP the performance declines very very
sharply after 3 users.

I personally had similar issues on older AP's mind with 12-15 users and
had to find alternative solutions.



Michael G Ruiz
Network and Systems Engineer
Hobart and William Smith Colleges
Information Technology Services
v 315.781.3711 f 315.781.3409



-Original Message-
From: Jorge Bodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:22 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless network system

Allen,

If you go to each controller via WCS on the left hand side drop down the
system options.  Under general you will see something called 'aggressive
load balancing'.  This is supposed to solved your problems.  We have not
really tested it, so I cannot say that it works or it does not.  
However, I do know 12 users on one of these APs is not enough to break
it.  You should be able to have all the users connect to that AP and not
have any issues.  I would actually prefer for them to connect to the
immediate AP.  The aggressive load balancing feature would be more
useful if someone was running a VOIP solution, where the number of users
per AP drops dramatically.

Thanks.

Jorge Bodden

Frank Bulk wrote:
 Allen:

 There is a load-balancing feature in the controller that you can take
 advantage of, to require, for example, that only 8 users are on each
AP.
 The specific details are fuzzy to me (and I couldn't find any detailed
 online documentation), but the options will be obvious once you find
the
 configuration screen.  If I remember correctly, there was no
percentage
 based load-balancing, that is, the ability of the system to split
clients
 among APs based on a percentage basis.  

 Regards,

 Frank

 -Original Message-
 From: Allen Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:03 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless network system

 I am having problem of more than 12 users connecting to one access 
 points even through there are access points in next classrooms.

 For example, there are 3 access points in each different classroom. 
 Access Point A is in classroom 1.  Access Point B is in Classroom 2.  
 Access point C is in classroom 3.

 We have 14 laptops in classroom 2 and all are connect to Access point
B 
 even through AP A and AP C are showing no users connections.  Wireless

 survey shows that laptop can see 3 access points in classroom 2.

 We are using Cisco LWAPP connecting to 4 4404 wireless LAN controllers

 and wireless network is monitored by Cisco Wireless Control system 
 (WCS). For this case, all 3 ap are connect to same controller. All 3
ap 
 are broadcasting same SSID.

 How do we make user's laptop connect to other AP? or make ap force
user 
 to connect to other access point.

   






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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless network system

2006-09-07 Thread Jorge Bodden

Allen,

If you go to each controller via WCS on the left hand side drop down the 
system options.  Under general you will see something called 'aggressive 
load balancing'.  This is supposed to solved your problems.  We have not 
really tested it, so I cannot say that it works or it does not.  
However, I do know 12 users on one of these APs is not enough to break 
it.  You should be able to have all the users connect to that AP and not 
have any issues.  I would actually prefer for them to connect to the 
immediate AP.  The aggressive load balancing feature would be more 
useful if someone was running a VOIP solution, where the number of users 
per AP drops dramatically.


Thanks.

Jorge Bodden

Frank Bulk wrote:

Allen:

There is a load-balancing feature in the controller that you can take
advantage of, to require, for example, that only 8 users are on each AP.
The specific details are fuzzy to me (and I couldn't find any detailed
online documentation), but the options will be obvious once you find the
configuration screen.  If I remember correctly, there was no percentage
based load-balancing, that is, the ability of the system to split clients
among APs based on a percentage basis.  


Regards,

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Allen Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:03 PM

To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless network system

I am having problem of more than 12 users connecting to one access 
points even through there are access points in next classrooms.


For example, there are 3 access points in each different classroom. 
Access Point A is in classroom 1.  Access Point B is in Classroom 2.  
Access point C is in classroom 3.


We have 14 laptops in classroom 2 and all are connect to Access point B 
even through AP A and AP C are showing no users connections.  Wireless 
survey shows that laptop can see 3 access points in classroom 2.


We are using Cisco LWAPP connecting to 4 4404 wireless LAN controllers 
and wireless network is monitored by Cisco Wireless Control system 
(WCS). For this case, all 3 ap are connect to same controller. All 3 ap 
are broadcasting same SSID.


How do we make user's laptop connect to other AP? or make ap force user 
to connect to other access point.


  







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