Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
The SQL upgrade phase takes a long time in my experience. I don't know exactly how long, but in the two upgrades I've done I let it run and found something else to do in the meantime and eventually it completed. The "Solid" database they are using is apparently not much of a speed demon. If waiting doesn't work then you can find error logs that might explain what the problem is here: /opt/WCS/webnms/db/eval_kit/standalone Doesn't that "eval_kit" path name for the dbase files just fill you with confidence? :-) The last time I had issues I found a Solid problem (ahem) due to a full partition on our Linux server causing the dbase to fail. We moved /opt to a bigger partition and that fixed it. After the "automatic" upgrade to 4.2 completed I had the usual result from an upgrade: tomcat was running and the database wasn't so you got the nice shiny Web login page but login names didn't work. I've had luck with the sequence of the "StopWCS" and then "StartWCS" commands in /opt/WCS/ to get things running correctly. There's also a "WCSStatus" command that is handy. -Charles Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet UT Austin ITS / Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 512.475.9265 On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 01:34:07PM -0500, Roth, Joe wrote: > What specific issues have people seen with upgrading WCS to 4.2? > > One of our admins is trying to do the upgrade right now, and the install > seems to be getting stuck at the sql upgrade script. > > Thanks, > > --Joe > > -Original Message- > From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:18 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 > > Doug, > > Every release that you put on a Controller loads new software onto the > AP's. There is always downtime with an upgrade. > > Also, they upped the limit in the 4.0.206 to 10 APs at a time. > > -Original Message- > Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to > download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access > point and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you > have a large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
Our one-touch installer stalled during the .exe- said it saw multiple copies of WCS, but only one anywhere is what we were upgrading from. Searched the server far and wide for traces of any earlier versions, and all earlier upgrades went fine (except one that I'd rather not relive). I upgraded "manually" and all was well, except for many of the bugs that I hoped would be fixed our still present. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 -Original Message- From: Roth, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 What specific issues have people seen with upgrading WCS to 4.2? One of our admins is trying to do the upgrade right now, and the install seems to be getting stuck at the sql upgrade script. Thanks, --Joe -Original Message- From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:18 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Doug, Every release that you put on a Controller loads new software onto the AP's. There is always downtime with an upgrade. Also, they upped the limit in the 4.0.206 to 10 APs at a time. -Original Message- Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access point and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you have a large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
What specific issues have people seen with upgrading WCS to 4.2? One of our admins is trying to do the upgrade right now, and the install seems to be getting stuck at the sql upgrade script. Thanks, --Joe -Original Message- From: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:18 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Doug, Every release that you put on a Controller loads new software onto the AP's. There is always downtime with an upgrade. Also, they upped the limit in the 4.0.206 to 10 APs at a time. -Original Message- Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access point and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you have a large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
Doug, Every release that you put on a Controller loads new software onto the AP's. There is always downtime with an upgrade. Also, they upped the limit in the 4.0.206 to 10 APs at a time. -Original Message- Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access point and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you have a large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
Bentley, Douglas wrote: We had quite a few issues moving forward with 4.2.62. If you have configuration issues after upgrading to 4.2.62 - DON'T - try to load a backup config file from 4.xxx code to the new 4.2.62 WLCs. I made this error and put 5 - WLCs (2.5 WiSMs) back to the install wizard. We had to manually console into the WiSMs and start from new. We ran into this on a 4404. The solution was to connect to the console, clear the config NVRAM and then boot the 4.1 "backup" image. Once on the backup image, do enough of the configuration script to get the WLC on the network and D/L your saved 4.1 config. Then, save the config to flash and restart the controller on the main 4.2 image. The boot process will do the config upgrade for you. The release notes say they switched from a binary file to an XML based file format. I'd have thought the config process would be a little more robust and able to handle both versions.. Guess not. -JEff ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
Doug, Thanks for the posting. I thought that each WLC on a WiSM can download 10 APs at a time. In 4.1.185.0 code we typically see 9 APs being download at a time when doing a bulk AP upgrade to LWAPP. On our 1230 APs the download seems to take approx 1.5 to 2 minutes. It sounds like you are seeing very different results in 4.2? We haven't deployed v4.2 into any production sites yet. Would you care to share any gotcha's with v4.2 in production that you have seen? Thanks, -Charles Charles E. Spurgeon / UTnet UT Austin ITS / Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 512.475.9265 On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:59:54AM -0400, Bentley, Douglas wrote: > We had quite a few issues moving forward with 4.2.62. If you have > configuration issues after upgrading to 4.2.62 - DON'T - try to load a backup > config file from 4.xxx code to the new 4.2.62 WLCs. I made this error and > put 5 - WLCs (2.5 WiSMs) back to the install wizard. We had to manually > console into the WiSMs and start from new. > > Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to > download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access point > and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you have a > large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. > > Versions > > Software Version 4.2.61.0 > Boot Version 12.3.7.1 > > Model AIR-AP1131AG-A-K9 > IOS Version 12.4(10b)JA > > Just a couple points from many issues that had to be resolved. > > > If anyone wants more information please feel free to contact me directly. > Until I have the source of our issues figured out I do not want it to seem > like I am pointing fingers at anyone. > > -Doug > > > > > > Douglas R. Bentley > University Information Technology > Systems Engineering Group > > University of Rochester > 727 Elmwood Avenue, Suite 132 > Rochester, NY 14620 > Office: (585) 275-6550 > Fax:(585) 273-1013 > Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.rochester.edu/its/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joyce, Todd N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:35 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 > > >From what we were told by Cisco - you will no longer have to remove the old > >and then install the new. All version from 4.2 on will be a single install > >and will remove the old for you. > > todd > > Todd Joyce > Network Services > Radford University - The Smart Choice > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (540) 831- > ? > Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels. > Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker. > > Temperance Brennan - Monday Mourning > > > -Original Message- > From: Greene, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:24 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 > > I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any > gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. > > Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? > I am not sure of what you are refering to. > > Thanks > > Chip Greene > Senior Network Specialist > University of Richmond > > > > From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 > > > Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? > > -Lee > > Lee H. Badman > Wireless/Network Engineer > Information Technology and Services > Syracuse University > 315 443-3003 > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
We had quite a few issues moving forward with 4.2.62. If you have configuration issues after upgrading to 4.2.62 - DON'T - try to load a backup config file from 4.xxx code to the new 4.2.62 WLCs. I made this error and put 5 - WLCs (2.5 WiSMs) back to the install wizard. We had to manually console into the WiSMs and start from new. Also the 4.2.62 has new code for the access points, so each will need to download the new code. Remember this takes about 4 minutes per access point and each WLC can only upgrade 4 at a time, so 8 per WiSM. If you have a large installed wireless network plan on this downtime. Versions Software Version 4.2.61.0 Boot Version 12.3.7.1 Model AIR-AP1131AG-A-K9 IOS Version 12.4(10b)JA Just a couple points from many issues that had to be resolved. If anyone wants more information please feel free to contact me directly. Until I have the source of our issues figured out I do not want it to seem like I am pointing fingers at anyone. -Doug Douglas R. Bentley University Information Technology Systems Engineering Group University of Rochester 727 Elmwood Avenue, Suite 132 Rochester, NY 14620 Office: (585) 275-6550 Fax:(585) 273-1013 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rochester.edu/its/ -Original Message- From: Joyce, Todd N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:35 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 >From what we were told by Cisco - you will no longer have to remove the old >and then install the new. All version from 4.2 on will be a single install >and will remove the old for you. todd Todd Joyce Network Services Radford University - The Smart Choice [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 831- Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels. Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker. Temperance Brennan - Monday Mourning -Original Message- From: Greene, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? I am not sure of what you are refering to. Thanks Chip Greene Senior Network Specialist University of Richmond From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
With 4.2, the process is no longer the dicey "backup WCS, uninstall, install new version, restore from backup". Now, it's an .exe that in theory does it all for you (didn't work for me, but that may be a problem unique to our WCS). I did the upgrade, and found that many of the major bugs have been fixed in the GUI. Unfortunately, there are still major problems, erroneous messages, etc. - at least with ours- and still almost 150 open caveats in the release notes, a solid 1/3 have no workaround. Caveat... interesting choice of word in this case. Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 -Original Message- From: Greene, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? I am not sure of what you are refering to. Thanks Chip Greene Senior Network Specialist University of Richmond From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
OK, so this is the one click WCS upgrade as we have heard. I have a vendor locally testing this and he will be providing feedback which I will pass along. Thanks for the clarification. Chip From: Joyce, Todd N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/2/2007 8:34 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 >From what we were told by Cisco - you will no longer have to remove the old >and then install the new. All version from 4.2 on will be a single install >and will remove the old for you. todd Todd Joyce Network Services Radford University - The Smart Choice [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 831- Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels. Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker. Temperance Brennan - Monday Mourning -Original Message- From: Greene, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? I am not sure of what you are refering to. Thanks Chip Greene Senior Network Specialist University of Richmond From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
>From what we were told by Cisco - you will no longer have to remove the old >and then install the new. All version from 4.2 on will be a single install >and will remove the old for you. todd Todd Joyce Network Services Radford University - The Smart Choice [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 831- Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels. Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker. Temperance Brennan - Monday Mourning -Original Message- From: Greene, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? I am not sure of what you are refering to. Thanks Chip Greene Senior Network Specialist University of Richmond From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2
I would be interested in any feedback on the upgrades to WCS 4.2 as well. Any gotchas or heads up would be appreciated. Lee - Could you please describe for me the "One Touch Process" you mention? I am not sure of what you are refering to. Thanks Chip Greene Senior Network Specialist University of Richmond From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 3:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS 4.2 Anyone upgraded yet- and any issues with the new "one touch" process? -Lee Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Syracuse University 315 443-3003 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
